whats up all? I have a honda, nobody is perfect, i live in ohio n out here its damn near impossible to find anything but yotas or hondas, anyway i was perusing a local yard when i found gold, i think, a black 240sx, the problem is that i have no clue the year or model, is there anyway to readd the serial number for the years? the yard owner said some husband gave it up cuz his wife was on her 3rd DUI n it was her ride, it has a 2 tiny ass rust spots and a 197,000 mile ka24 (ewww) the interior is a little wet cuz some ass left the window down but its ok besides all that its fine, unibody is straight n all, the golden part? i told the guy i wanted it as a parts car even though he kept tellin me from the beginning its still runnable, so i asked if i could take it for $300 and he bit!!:p so can anyone help me identify the year and trim level? i have all the numbers off theserial plate under the hood if that would help?
i really want this ride!!

out of my factory service manual (you can find these on ebay :-)

i.e. RHLS13AN(R)

(blank): coupe, R: fastback
H: KA24E engine
L: L.H. drive
S13: model
A: auto, F: 5speed
N: Canada, V: California, U:Non-California
(R): With A.B.S.

not sure where you can find the year.. get a carfax report.

ok this is what i got,
Year/Make/Model: 1990 NISSAN 240SX SE Body Style: Hatchback 2 DR Engine Type: 2.4L L4 EFI Manufactured In: JAPAN


so tell me whats an SE and is it really that hard to do an SR20 swap on 89-90 cuz its only sohc right?:confused:

any sr swap into any 240 is pretty easy, but you will have to use the sr engine harness, and mabye new mounts, many people have sites for sr engine swaps, but why go for sr, not rb? rb's are a whole 60 lbs heavier and have been taken to quadruple digit power numbers, when is the last time you saw an sr or ka over 400hp?
anyway, sr's will cost you about 2500 for front clip (last year, not sure this year, mabye a little bit more) and about that much if you have someone install it for you, do it youself, send the wiring harness out to JWT and save the money, sport compact car did a swap a couple months back the web article is on their site somewhere, ill post a link if i can find it.

Anybody here do Carfax reports?I really would like to know the history of my car...

S13 and S14 engine swaps are direct bolt ins with engine harness and engine mounts. Easy and cheap way to go. Only way your going to get 4-digit hp numbers out of a RB engine is if you put well over 20,000 in it. And realisicly, not that many people can afford to put that much into their engine. There's an article in Super Street (Aug. of 2002) with a S15 Silvia that puts out 597hp at the wheels, not 4-digits, but still crucial.

ehhhhhhhhhhh...:bloated: :bloated: Super Street... they got purty hoochi mamas all inside:bloated: :bloated:

but GETTING hp out of an RB is much more easier then the SR


tell me i'm lying:flash:

Originally posted by SE-R WolfPac
ehhhhhhhhhhh...:bloated: :bloated: Super Street... they got purty hoochi mamas all inside:bloated: :bloated:


dude!!! i sent my car in for a body job (paint, new body panels, taking out dents) and anyways, when i got it back, all my superstreet posters in the trunk were stolen!!!!


waaaahhhh!!!! they took my favorite ones too! tila, kaila and sharron sotto!!!!

theres lots of KA's and SR's that do over 400hp


I know off hand atleast 3 KA-T's making over 400rwhp
I know KA24E's can do 300hp naturally aspirated
I know of quite a few SR's that put down over 500rwhp

there are quite a few S chassis in Japan running under 10 second 400m times with full chassis and Street tires......a few of them are SR's with 500+hp and a couple were RB26DETT ones with 6-800rwhp. Is it just me or is a 500hp SR putting down the same performance as a 800hp RB26DETT?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
anyway you can make a KA24-T run 500hp easier and cheaper then taking a RB25DET, putting that in your chassis, and tuning it for 500hp.

You say its easier to get HP on one kind of engine then another? what kind of idiot statement is that? You put a turbocharger on this engine its going to get more power, you put a turbocharger on that engine it will also have more power.....what gives LOL.

And like I said, a $1200 or less turbo job on a KA24DE will give u the same HP to the rear wheels as a RB25DET stock....... what do Rb25DET front clips go for, I saw one for 3500 I believe, Plus installation, and you will want to buy some parts when u drop that in so lets say 5k for a RB25DET running in a 240sx..... Im not tearing u down for running a RB, just it isn't the end all engine and the ultimate source of power for a 240sx.... hell I think the KA is better. Give me 5000 dollars and a KA24DE and I'll make it humiliate a 240sx with a rb25det with the same amount of money spent on it.

If you have a lot of money and it isn't an object...... get a GTR.....

I've said this many times before and this isn't the last time..... You want a RB engine? get a skyline.

P.S. you might think a RB in a S chassis is cool and powerful..... So is putting a LT1 v8 in a S chassis...... some people look down upon that though. Thats all im getting at, I don't really believe in engine swaps....but the SR20DET was an engine designed for this car from the factory so its not like putting in a different model/chassis' engine into your car.

DUDE! if someone stole my Tila poster, I'd be up there runnin people over 'til I got it back. She's def. the hottest model on earth!

i dont care how much you know about cars or engines.. i havea KA engine in my crashed 240 the lays down almost 240 to the wheels with under $1000 worth of parts...
and i also have an RB25 clip that i've had sinve last fall...and i tell you this.... money is money. we all get and and we all want it. but HP is HP. either you have a reliable engine or ou dont. which is why people dont build too many KA-T's...and people spend money on swaps...

i'm also a Honda guy... why do we spend money on "Acura" engines? it just IS...

so keep what you have to get money outta "them: engines, but with nissans i'll use an engine that has been proven to make serious HP and be reilable at the same time.


how many KA's have we seen shYt them selves????


my point exactly:flipa:

i dont care how much you know about cars or engines.. i havea KA engine in my crashed 240 the lays down almost 240 to the wheels with under $1000 worth of parts...
and i also have an RB25 clip that i've had sinve last fall...and i tell you this.... money is money. we all get and and we all want it. but HP is HP. either you have a reliable engine or ou dont. which is why people dont build too many KA-T's...and people spend money on swaps...

i'm also a Honda guy... why do we spend money on "Acura" engines? it just IS...

so keep what you have to get money outta "them: engines, but with nissans i'll use an engine that has been proven to make serious HP and be reilable at the same time.


how many KA's have we seen shYt them selves????


my point exactly:flipa:

im sure many RB's have bought the farm before.......

When you mention RB- do you mean RB20, RB25 or RB26??????? I have heard of plenty of RB20's going in Silvias/240SX- but would anthing bigger fit????? The SR20DET is a better engine than the RB20DET either way- the RB20 engines are too heavy for my liking :bloated:

jimster, those gifs are phat! where do you get'em? any nissans man?

www.cargifs.co.uk - Plenty Of Nissans as well including the almighty S14 200SX :D

damn dude that site rocks, thanks jimster:D

haha got a line of Nissans now lol. I've heard of anything between small block v8's going into 240's, and about every nissan engine u could imagine in a S chassis. Rb20DET, RB25DET, RB26DETT, CA18DET, KA24(D)E(T), SR20DET, VK45DE, and I think I heard of a supra mk4 engine in one.

the bigger engines fit fine, ive heard talk of people who apparently need to leingthen the car or move the firewall, but its bs in my opinion, i didnt need to do any of that. it is just a simple swap, new motor mounts and a new tranny mount will get it in.

yeah even people who run the Rb26 say u don't need to make any modifications to the size of an engine bay. a RB26 is a fairly large engine lengthwise.... longer then a V8 running 4 cylinders deep. this one has 6 cylinders deep. There is very little room between the engine and radiator in RB swapped cars though.

with the RB26 swap, there's issues with the placement of the twin turbos and the steering column, since North American cars are left hand drive.

pretty much any engine imaginable has been swapped int S-chassis cars. i've seen every RB engine, ever VG engine, VQ, Toyota 2JZ and 1JZ, Toyota 3SGTE, V8's (eyech). there's alot of options if you have the money.

Originally posted by TheLogikal1



dude!!! i sent my car in for a body job (paint, new body panels, taking out dents) and anyways, when i got it back, all my superstreet posters in the trunk were stolen!!!!


waaaahhhh!!!! they took my favorite ones too! tila, kaila and sharron sotto!!!!

NOOO not Kaila!!! She so fine :D :D

just like Night on the west coast, i'll be happy to do RB-S chassis swaps on the east coast.


and so you know i have a 1996 R33 GTS-T clip in storage...

but they fit just fine...and i wont be swapping it till i get tired of raw KA's.. i kinda like the Torque the have.

and sure, RB's have self destructed. but they have the qualities we all love. so in order to ruin one you must be a complete fool or have lots of money to play with.


by the way i might sell my white 89 S13.....any takers?

Originally posted by rudeboy
just like Night on the west coast, i'll be happy to do RB-S chassis swaps on the east coast.


and so you know i have a 1996 R33 GTS-T clip in storage...

but they fit just fine...and i wont be swapping it till i get tired of raw KA's.. i kinda like the Torque the have.

and sure, RB's have self destructed. but they have the qualities we all love. so in order to ruin one you must be a complete fool or have lots of money to play with.


by the way i might sell my white 89 S13.....any takers?

give us some details. where you located?

how fast? im looking for a 12 or 11 sec 240

just found a site for RB installs, unstable-hybrids.com , im sure youve probibly heard of them, but you can get the engine and the install, install is

Skyline RB25DET
Engine from 1994-1999 R33 Skyline, 2.5L Dual Overhead Cam Inline 6-cylinder Turbo Motor
Front Clip: $4,000 * Intercooler and piping included.
Installation: $2,700 * Includes custom motor/tranny mounts
* Does not include price of custom intake manifold, which facilitates use of front mount intercooler, but requires custom piping.
* Typically takes 3 weeks once all parts arrive (estimate only).

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Skyline RB26DETT
Engine from 1988-1999 R32/33/34 Skyline, 2.6L Dual Overhead Cam Inline 6-cylinder Twin-Turbo Motor
* Not including RWD transmission and other parts needed for install.
R32 Front Clip: $5,500
R33 Front Clip: $6,500
R34 Front Clip: $8,000 * Intercooler and piping included.
Installation: $3,100 * Includes custom motor/tranny mounts
* Typically takes 3 weeks once all parts arrive (estimate only).


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but if you buy an install kit, the kit is only 1400 (1200 if you buy the motor from them)

you dont need custom engine and trann mounts to fit the engine.
i live in buffalo,NY
a custom driveshaft can be had(lightweight aluminum-one piece) for around $300 at www.dennysdriveshaft.com "Priced from $260.95 to $295.95
for Most applications up to 54 inch CL
...includes transmission slip yoke and solid body u-jointss"

rude know's best

unless i'm wrong
:bloated:

june '03 issue #29 of 'Japanese Performance' has a 240 with a KA with 450 hp and lik 390 lbs torque I think and he says hes still in the midst of pushing more out of both, so who really needs a SR or RB? if your short on money like me the KA is the way to go

Originally posted by ghostchild316
Anybody here do Carfax reports?I really would like to know the history of my car... I use to own your car but gave it up so my kids could go to college :) Oh by the way I had 18 accidents all of them were totals... I dont know why I kept rebuilding it... oh yeah and I drove it into a lake.

Originally posted by Soyo
june '03 issue #29 of 'Japanese Performance' has a 240 with a KA with 450 hp and lik 390 lbs torque I think and he says hes still in the midst of pushing more out of both, so who really needs a SR or RB? if your short on money like me the KA is the way to go

the KA is a good engine, its just that its a truck engine, and it takes more tuning on a KA to make that kind of power when compared to a SR or RB, so youll probibly spend more on tuning it and turning up the power than you would spend by doing a SR swap and going from there. But if your going for "truly stupid power levels" then the only engines that could fit relatively easily are the VQ and RB, of wich the RB is stronger simply because it has 4 main bearings instead of the 7 found on the RB, this makes it easier to make power because your not constantly breaking your bottom end.

THE KA IS NOT A TRUCK ENGINEhttp://www.zilvia.net/f/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://www.zilvia.net/f/images/smilies/mad.gif

Xterra
KA24DE

Frontier
KA24DE

Altima
KA24DE

1991-1998
240SX
KA24DE

1989-1990
240SX
KA24E

Hardbody pickup
KA24E

Another workhorse of Nissan. Used in trucks, sports cars, and sedans.


its a truck engine.

the KA "truck" engines are assembled in Mexico.

Our KA engines are built in Japan.

The KA engines were used for racing before they were used in trucks.They only use them in trucks because of their torquey nature.
That means Nissan put sports car engines in trucks...



If mike was here he would have flamed you to death for saying that.

Originally posted by TheLogikal1



dude!!! i sent my car in for a body job (paint, new body panels, taking out dents) and anyways, when i got it back, all my superstreet posters in the trunk were stolen!!!!


waaaahhhh!!!! they took my favorite ones too! tila, kaila and sharron sotto!!!!

Ahahhaha. I still have all of mine...somewhere in my house :bloated:.

you can get 250hp out of a KA24DE for about 2/3 the price of an SR even if you did the swap yourself

it just all depends on if you like having power in your engine or if you like making your engine powerful, and it also depends on how deep your pockets are

Ok what would be my best shot here for a for Drag Motor Racing in a straight line.
CA18DET or Redtop SR20DET or stick with KA & turbo it. I knoe a lil bit about the SR but pretty new to the CA. If there any BIG difference between the SR's from the S13-S15??

Which has the stronger block? Ive heard of the CA having the stronger block?

OK someone said something about 240hp at the wheels in their 240sx for less than $1000? Explain I'm curious

Originally posted by ghostchild316
Anybody here do Carfax reports?I really would like to know the history of my car...

I got it and it rules. I have the unlimited usage for a month so if you want to give me your VIN number I'll run it for you. It expires on the Aug 14th.

hey, could you run this vin, i'm thinking about buyin another 240

JN1MS34PXMW004860

thanks, it's another '91 coupe.

Originally posted by too-cool-2
hey, could you run this vin, i'm thinking about buyin another 240

JN1MS34PXMW004860

thanks, it's another '91 coupe.

The reports are kinda long so I'm going to post the reply here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t126425.html . Don't want to kill off this thread making people scroll a buncha reports.

KA engines were used for racing? PLZ SHOW ME

a link or something. i gotta see this.

at 9 psi the ka engines have much more power then the SR20DET engine at 9psi and is a hell of alot less expensive then getting an instaling a RB series engine. and even though the ka engines are very reliable if something does go wrong your not gonna have problem finding parts. however the RB series engine, if something goes wrong where are you gonna get parts from? Well i think swapping engines to a RB series is a huge waste of time if your not going for over 400hp. Its not all that hard to get over 300 with your KA. Remember how light the car is, 260hp is actually pretty fast in a car that light. And whats so bad about it being a truck engine, that means more torque, more get-up and go. And just because its used in trucks dosent mean its hard to tune.