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Superdetailed Pocher Monza 8C


mario lucchini
05-23-2009, 11:10 AM
Pocher kits are difficult task, but the potential for superdetailing is awesome...
Here's my attempt on the Alfa 2300 Monza 8C...

For starters, I'll use no glue, everything will be assembled with scale hardware, bought or scratchbuilt...this allows dissasembly of subassemblies anytime and gives a realistic look to the whole model...

First 5 pics shows some parts cast in Zamak using the kit's parts as masters...
Pics 6 & 7 shows some of these metal parts rectified, polished, painted, decalled and with scale hardware in place....they'll go to the waiting box...

In pic 8 we see the engine's block with the metal cylinders in place...

Pics 9 to 15 shows an engine stand, made to 1/8 scale of the stand used by the boys at the Alfa factory back then....this shows the importance of research of 1/1 data for superdetailing tasks....

In a next post, we'll see some more...

Thanks for looking

Mario

F1Tommy
05-23-2009, 12:31 PM
Very nice!! I built one of these a few years ago, but not nearly as detailed as yours.

Here is a photo of mine:


www.cardatabase.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00067900 (http://www.cardatabase.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00067900)

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo-Strictly 43rd Revival April 2010-Chicago

Petersm99
05-23-2009, 04:30 PM
Hello Mario,

I love your post, really great!
The Pochers are great cars, I managed to get mine but I did not get a chance to start yet, still too much to learn.

I will definitely follow your posts.

regards,
Marc

mario lucchini
05-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Second part of the Alfa build....

A pictorial sequence showing the preparation of the transmission housing, from the sprue parts to the finished edition...

Lots of sanding, puttying, more sanding, special scratchbuilt parts & hardware, fitting, testing, uffff!...you name it!, BUT, this is what it's all about when superdetailing...

Tried to give this subassembly that "one piece look" which makes the difference....

Again, no glue was used at all, you can dissasemble this anytime, providing you have my miniature wrenches....................

The final effect was the airbushing of the transmission with automotive acrylic laquer with a "graphite" hue in it which looks nice (According to me, hee, hee....)

To the waiting box once again...

Till the next one!

Mario

BVC500
05-23-2009, 07:57 PM
Amazing work so far. Looking forward to more updates!

mrawl
05-24-2009, 12:16 AM
Superb work. Can't wait to see what else you're going to amaze us with.

mrawl
05-24-2009, 12:21 AM
OMFG!!! This is so far off the freakin' hook it's just, um, err, I dunno, I'm speechless.

Petersm99
05-24-2009, 03:21 AM
Hello Mario,

Very well done, I really like what you did.
Especially the Gear shifter gate looks very nice !!!


Regards,
Marc

jano11
05-24-2009, 04:55 AM
Impressive stuff! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to see more of this build, possibly in one and the same thread. If you keep posting every update in a new thread it will become impossible to follow the whole process.

mario lucchini
05-24-2009, 06:45 AM
Impressive stuff! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to see more of this build, possibly in one and the same thread. If you keep posting every update in a new thread it will become impossible to follow the whole process.


Thanks for your comments boys!!!...That makes me go ahead with renewed enthusiasm..............:grinyes:

You're right jano, I'll go on the same thread from now on...

Mario

mario lucchini
05-24-2009, 07:04 AM
We continue rolling with ............part of the compressor, carburator and air intake.

In this subassembly, the 1/1 data was followed as faithfully as possible, the Pocher kit lacks detail in these parts...

Curious note: the rivets holding the warning label are 0.5 mm diameter on their heads, the hole to attach them is 0.2 mm diameter which implies the use of some VERY delicate watchmakers drills!...:screwy:

Note the scratchbuilt brass flanges to receive multiple hoses in later stages....

The waiting box is looking busy at this stage...

I'm liking this build...:lol2:

Mario

endac
05-24-2009, 04:25 PM
Really great start, look forward to seeing more

zitzit
05-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Hello!

Very impressive kit (I have it in my "stock"),and impressive scratch skills...

If I could make one critic, cast parts would really look great if they had this textured effect wich imitates sand casting surfaces.

Hope to see some progress fast.

Regards

Olivier.

MBZProjext09
05-25-2009, 02:18 PM
very sick dude..

TRBJ
05-25-2009, 02:36 PM
INSANE.. i really doubt youre a normal earthling man... seriously.. :P

mario lucchini
05-25-2009, 02:38 PM
Hello!

Very impressive kit (I have it in my "stock"),and impressive scratch skills...

If I could make one critic, cast parts would really look great if they had this textured effect wich imitates sand casting surfaces.

Hope to see some progress fast.

Regards

Olivier.

Hy Olivier, you're right in your critic, you'll see that effect further ahead in some parts...

Mario

mario lucchini
05-25-2009, 03:03 PM
Time for the steering mechanism.....The Pocher sprocket of Nylon is no good for a reliable working steering, neither the metal worm provided in the kit....as this project is developing, it will weigh more than 4 Kgs when finished, so a new sprocket and worm were devised & made.

Besides, I reduced the sprocket's teeth so that the demultiplication coincides with that in the prototype (From the beginning I said this was a "superdetailed" build!...:lol2:)

The nylon kit's sprocket and the new parts scratchbuilt...

All the particulars of the prototype's steering box are reproduced here...:screwy:

Here's the "sand cast" texture you were looking for, Olivier!

See ya soon...

Mario

jano11
05-26-2009, 04:52 AM
:eek: Amazing!

zitzit
05-26-2009, 07:34 AM
Hi!

Like this, it really looks more realistic!

Impressive work! What kind of tools/machines do you use to make this kind of parts? Especially the worm gear.

And could you also describe/explain how do you cast zamac?

Thanks

Olivier.

mario lucchini
05-26-2009, 08:35 AM
Hi!

Like this, it really looks more realistic!

Impressive work! What kind of tools/machines do you use to make this kind of parts? Especially the worm gear.

And could you also describe/explain how do you cast zamac?

Thanks

Olivier.

Hey Olivier!
I use a Unimat 3 lathe with milling head and a Boley F1 watchmakers lathe for doing lots of scratchbuilt parts...
The worm was made using the Unimat's threading attachment...(It's like threading a bolt but with a big thread pitch)
The sprocket gear was also made in the Unimat but using a rotary table I made for it...See pics...:)

A friend does the castings for me, I cannot explain that, sorry!

Regards

Mario

mario lucchini
05-26-2009, 12:05 PM
Time to give the body & frame a little care....

As in the rest of this build, the body & frame must be assembled only with scale hardware....NO glues or adhesives at all, ....and this subassembly must be able to be dismounted any time....

First of all, the seat which came as one piece with the main body, was carefully cut from it, rectified and upholstered in Capretta Italian leather (VERY thin)....provisions were taken to bolt the seat to the body and frame later...(Pics 1, 2 & 3)

The next pics are a pictorial sequence showing all the attachment points of the body parts to themselves and to the main frame...also shown in place is the upper engine block, which was moved to the back of the frame 10 mm...(Pocher boys glitch!!)

In some of the photos you can see the upholstered seat and its attachment to the body and frame...

Next time, I'll show this stage dissasembled and all its parts...:grinyes:

Cheereeo.........

Mario

Petersm99
05-26-2009, 01:29 PM
Hello Mario,

Very impressive update again,
Great way of doing the seats, one question though: Is there a special reason why the reverse side looks the way it does? Is it a prototypical structure?

I also think that you have beautifull tools! Very nice and professional.

Best Regards,
Marc

zitzit
06-25-2009, 03:13 PM
Hello!

Any news concerning this build?

Olivier.

jmesawitz
06-26-2009, 10:32 AM
Maybe the most amazing build I have ever seen. Definitly top 10

mario lucchini
06-26-2009, 04:42 PM
I'm doing some other models Olivier, so this one is waiting some other actions....

Thanks for your comments, jmesawitz, I don't deserve that much...:runaround:

This time, I'm showing the scale leaf suspension I'm scratchbuilding for the model, the one's in the kit are a no-no...

This stage was drawn to scale in Autocad, printed and used as templates glued to 0.7 mm thick brass sheet for cutting each leaf individually....

Scale hardware was used to make the leaf pack, giving each leaf the correct curvature and they do work fine!!...:naughty:

jano11
06-26-2009, 05:57 PM
:eek: They look like the real deal! Stunning result! :thumbsup:

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