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1999 Pontiac Grand Am 2.4L 152k miles Bad Engine Problemsting8282bird 03-16-2009, 01:41 PM I have a 99 GA with ~152k miles, 2.4L engine that I have gone through 3 timing chain tensioners. Three weeks ago, I went to start my car and it kind of sounded like it seized up (or what I think sounded like that). When I tried to bump it afterwards, it didn't turn over at all. I had a friend try to help me jump it in case it was a battery problem. It then turned over, but there was a lot of rattling coming from the timing chain area. I figured at this point, I would be replacing my tensioner again. I got the timing cover off and got all of the cam gears lined up in the timed position with an 8 mm bolt lined up in the holes. I lined up the crankshaft gear, installed the new tensioner, and then put the old timing chain on. It didn't line up with the gears as perfectly as I know it should have. I rotated the engine by hand, and the chain seemed to jump off the crankshaft sprocket and possibly jump a tooth. I eventually realized that the chain had stretched (and by more than a link), so I replaced it. When I put the new chain on, it fit perfectly, and I again hand cranked it. This time, the tension remained solid, and the gears stayed in the timed position through several rotations. I cranked it and it turned over several times (~5 seconds), but didn't start. I noticed that I had not reconnected the connector to the cruise control module, and thought that may have something to do with it. I connected it and attempted to start. After a second, there was a loud boom, some flame from what appeared to be in the bottom end (crankcase), and a decent amount of smoke from holes out of the crankcase near the crankshaft timing gear. Two things that I will be doing tonight are to check compression on the cylinders (100 psi minimum and 30% difference listed as acceptable in my Haynes manual), and check the computer to read codes. Does anyone know what might have happened? Airjer_ 03-16-2009, 02:16 PM Your compression test will give you your answer. sting8282bird 03-16-2009, 03:05 PM I've never done one, but I assume I install the gauge at the spark plug, then rotate to TDC for piston 1, then read the gauge. If it is less than 100, that tells me I don't have enough compression, but having seen the large flame, i'm expecting almost no reading. Also, do you know of a leak down time? Ideally, it should hold pressure for a long time, correct? Should I put some oil in when I remove the spark plug to help seal around the piston rings (the engine has been sitting for a while)? BNaylor 03-16-2009, 07:21 PM sting8282bird, Welcome to AF. Please read the advisory sticky at the top of this forum. The N Body forums are being removed so your post has been moved to the Grand Am forum. xeroinfinity 03-17-2009, 04:02 PM sting8282bird, sounds like it back fired. You are sure that the timing mark were dead on ?? Other then that if it jumped time you could have bent a valve or two , which you'll know when doing your compression test. Id do the first run on the test dry with all the p[lugs removed. Record your reading, then put in 2-3 squirts of oil(the same for every cylinder unless it reads 0 on the first test) then see what it raises up to. Mainly looking for extremely low or no compression. Here is a link that explains compr. testing with some pics. http://www.automedia.com/Engine_Compression_Test/ccr20050801cc/1 Good Luck! vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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