Air Cooled - Porsche RSR 1994 Le Mans
mrawl
01-15-2009, 11:43 PM
The LHS was tossing this Fujimi curbside out for nada, and my Tamiya GT2 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=930791) needed company, so I thought I'd try it as a sort of companion build. I briefly considered doing a highly detailed build but the kit has a lot of problems as you will see, and I have some more ambitious stuff planned anyway, so it'll be just a nice clean build I think (I hope!)...
Here's the car. It's a 964 RSR. I like those night running lights. First problem - they're not included in the kit. Damn it! I might try to scratch them.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/porschersrreviewih_box.jpg
The body is an impressive one-piece/fused molding. Seams are almost invisible. The front fender/light pods are not perfectly curved like I would expect (a bit flattened on top), but that might be the car itself, I need to check on that. (I'm erasing the fuel cap here)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011.jpg
Chassis. Very nice surface detail. Some parts would be easier to paint if separated, but I'm not complaining, it looks pretty good to me.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012.jpg
Interior. Yick! Major loss here - it's a vanilla Carrera, they just did a minimal mod to the street kit. Oh well, it'll still look ok, and I might scratch some mods.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009.jpg
Very poor excuse for a roll bar. I guess you could do it properly without too much fuss. Rip out the back seats, door panels, etc. Whatever...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011-1.jpg
Nice decals. Err, hang on - shouldn't that be red, not orange??? Sheesh - not sure how to fix this. Should consider alternate decals I guess, or maybe they can be fixed with paint (!)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012-1.jpg
They included some nice wheels to replace the street variety. But, err, shouldn't they be like the GT2 wheels (BBS cage/spoke style)? Hmm....
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010014.jpg
Ok, so let's begin! Tamiya fine primer - incredible stuff.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009-1.jpg
TS-26 pure white. 2 coats straight from the can. The "engine" was soft-masked to prevent hard paint edges..
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012-2.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009-2.jpg
Some more basic painting. I made the engine part a bit rough for weathering later on, but the rest is super smooth.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011-2.jpg
More soon :popcorn:
Here's the car. It's a 964 RSR. I like those night running lights. First problem - they're not included in the kit. Damn it! I might try to scratch them.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/porschersrreviewih_box.jpg
The body is an impressive one-piece/fused molding. Seams are almost invisible. The front fender/light pods are not perfectly curved like I would expect (a bit flattened on top), but that might be the car itself, I need to check on that. (I'm erasing the fuel cap here)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011.jpg
Chassis. Very nice surface detail. Some parts would be easier to paint if separated, but I'm not complaining, it looks pretty good to me.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012.jpg
Interior. Yick! Major loss here - it's a vanilla Carrera, they just did a minimal mod to the street kit. Oh well, it'll still look ok, and I might scratch some mods.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009.jpg
Very poor excuse for a roll bar. I guess you could do it properly without too much fuss. Rip out the back seats, door panels, etc. Whatever...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011-1.jpg
Nice decals. Err, hang on - shouldn't that be red, not orange??? Sheesh - not sure how to fix this. Should consider alternate decals I guess, or maybe they can be fixed with paint (!)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012-1.jpg
They included some nice wheels to replace the street variety. But, err, shouldn't they be like the GT2 wheels (BBS cage/spoke style)? Hmm....
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010014.jpg
Ok, so let's begin! Tamiya fine primer - incredible stuff.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009-1.jpg
TS-26 pure white. 2 coats straight from the can. The "engine" was soft-masked to prevent hard paint edges..
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010012-2.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010009-2.jpg
Some more basic painting. I made the engine part a bit rough for weathering later on, but the rest is super smooth.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP1/P1010011-2.jpg
More soon :popcorn:
Tibi Keke
01-16-2009, 01:36 AM
Nice model and good start! I will follow with interest both of your threads! :)
godfather23
01-16-2009, 02:24 AM
Typical Fujimi - nice kit on the box and a big surprise on the inside. How on earth can they sell a kit without the proper wheels being supplied. I´ll never figure that one out.
It seems as you are having a nice decal job coming up. I like that and wish you all the best luck with the decals. Should look killer, when finished.
Cheers
Robert
It seems as you are having a nice decal job coming up. I like that and wish you all the best luck with the decals. Should look killer, when finished.
Cheers
Robert
godfather23
01-16-2009, 02:43 AM
Ooops, I forgot to ask my question: Did you already think about how to solve the wheel-problem? Do you have any particular kit source in mind?
Robert
Robert
mrawl
01-16-2009, 03:22 AM
Ooops, I forgot to ask my question: Did you already think about how to solve the wheel-problem? Do you have any particular kit source in mind?
Robert Well, actually, I had previously got some Fujimi BBS wheels, but it was another case of looks great on the box, but the actual item was complete rubbish. I might try to mold the wheels from the Tamiya GT2 kit. Have to deal with the different mounting style though. Not sure yet... And you know, there are plenty of RSR examples with the wheel type shown here, but typically not the chrome version! So I have no idea why Fujimi bothered to include them.
Robert Well, actually, I had previously got some Fujimi BBS wheels, but it was another case of looks great on the box, but the actual item was complete rubbish. I might try to mold the wheels from the Tamiya GT2 kit. Have to deal with the different mounting style though. Not sure yet... And you know, there are plenty of RSR examples with the wheel type shown here, but typically not the chrome version! So I have no idea why Fujimi bothered to include them.
Robi J
01-16-2009, 08:51 AM
The '94 RSR (with a different livery) is one of my planned project. Since I'm too lazy, I've yet assigned to the Fujimi RSR the BBS wheels and the complete cockpit from the Tamiya GT2. I'm curious to follow your job, for sure you'll turn it out in a gem :iceslolan
Robi :)
Robi :)
Sebastian.
01-16-2009, 03:06 PM
I shall watch your work. I have such complete set but with decals from Cartograf. You represent, they there too orange color, instead of red as should be.!!!! It is full idiocy what to make such foolish mistake. I to tell the truth would tear off hands to the one who selected color decal, in fact to correct it practically not really. I have prepared the complete set of wheels BBS 18 from Fujimi. You consider they will not approach??
mrawl
01-16-2009, 03:21 PM
The '94 RSR (with a different livery) is one of my planned project. Since I'm too lazy, I've yet assigned to the Fujimi RSR the BBS wheels and the complete cockpit from the Tamiya GT2. I'm curious to follow your job, for sure you'll turn it out in a gem :iceslolan
Robi :)
Interesting idea, but is there enough reason to do that - why not just build the Tamy?
Robi :)
Interesting idea, but is there enough reason to do that - why not just build the Tamy?
mrawl
01-16-2009, 03:58 PM
I shall watch your work. I have such complete set but with decals from Cartograf. You represent, they there too orange color, instead of red as should be.!!!! It is full idiocy what to make such foolish mistake. I to tell the truth would tear off hands to the one who selected color decal, in fact to correct it practically not really. I have prepared the complete set of wheels BBS 18 from Fujimi. You consider they will not approach?? My decals are way too orange, doesn't mean they all are. Further more you have to paint the bumpers to match, and I can't bring myself to paint them orange, so it's fix/paint the decals red, or get new decals.
For the wheels, here's the ones I have:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010010-1.jpg
Looks promising right? (mind you, I need to check the exact wheel on that car, not even sure if these are the right ones yet)
Inside the box (with Tamiya from the 993 GT2 kit). Yes, it's a different wheel, but still, those deformed spokes look pretty bad to my eye. And yes, they weren't even gold as expected...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010010.jpg
And in a slightly more flattering light. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010011-1.jpg
They're also not wide enough, and don't have any dish to them (rear on the left, front on the right). Bottom line, the Tamiya (or similar) kill them for a track car.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010009.jpg
So those are my Fujimi wheels. There's a million of them out there, if you know of some better ones, please let me know!
For the wheels, here's the ones I have:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010010-1.jpg
Looks promising right? (mind you, I need to check the exact wheel on that car, not even sure if these are the right ones yet)
Inside the box (with Tamiya from the 993 GT2 kit). Yes, it's a different wheel, but still, those deformed spokes look pretty bad to my eye. And yes, they weren't even gold as expected...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010010.jpg
And in a slightly more flattering light. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010011-1.jpg
They're also not wide enough, and don't have any dish to them (rear on the left, front on the right). Bottom line, the Tamiya (or similar) kill them for a track car.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIPmisc/P1010009.jpg
So those are my Fujimi wheels. There's a million of them out there, if you know of some better ones, please let me know!
mrawl
01-28-2009, 11:34 PM
Not really an update, but I took some snaps of the Fujimi 964 RSR body on the Tamiya 993 GT2 chassis/interior. As you know, the Fujimi is basically a passenger car kit with some modified RSR parts. It has a covered engine and suspension, no transmission, wrong exhaust, wrong steering wheel, woefully wrong roll cage, rear seats which shouldn't be there, wrong door panels, no interior door details, wrong floor, no racing accessories like fire extinguisher, no night running lights, and the wrong wheels. But it has that awesome 964 body. The Tamiya has a fantastic chassis/interior, it's a bit basic too, but it kills the Fujimi.
So the question is, should I abandon the Fujimi interior/chassis and switch in one from a Tamiya 993 GT2? It seems that the Tamiya chassis is accurate enough for the 964 RSR, though I believe the exhaust and rear suspension are slightly wrong - but closer to a real 964 RSR track car than the Fujimi passenger stuff.
I kinda hate to sacrifice two kit halves to make one model, and I like the challenge of making the Fujimi work - I can certainly scratch the interior, but I wouldn't do the half-engine/exhaust like the Tamiya. Thoughts?
The chassis is sitting a little bit too far forward in these pics, but it only needs some minor relieving in the back to make it fit perfectly. The Fujimi one-piece "glass" fits above the Tamiya roll cage. So there's nothing to stop you doing this hybrid.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010016.jpg
The BBS racing wheels look fantastic on this body imho.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010021.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010017.jpg
The rear wheels are too wide. They're also too wide if you try to squeeze the Tamiya wheels into the Fujimi chassis. So you'd have to narrow the rear wheels a bit on the inside I think. Or, extend the rear fender flares. Afaict, the wheels are the correct scale width (10" front, 12" rear). And from RSR pics it looks like the flares are pretty accurate too, so maybe the suspension needs to be tweaked a bit - anyway, plenty of options, it could be done.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010020.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010018.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010022-1.jpg
So the question is, should I abandon the Fujimi interior/chassis and switch in one from a Tamiya 993 GT2? It seems that the Tamiya chassis is accurate enough for the 964 RSR, though I believe the exhaust and rear suspension are slightly wrong - but closer to a real 964 RSR track car than the Fujimi passenger stuff.
I kinda hate to sacrifice two kit halves to make one model, and I like the challenge of making the Fujimi work - I can certainly scratch the interior, but I wouldn't do the half-engine/exhaust like the Tamiya. Thoughts?
The chassis is sitting a little bit too far forward in these pics, but it only needs some minor relieving in the back to make it fit perfectly. The Fujimi one-piece "glass" fits above the Tamiya roll cage. So there's nothing to stop you doing this hybrid.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010016.jpg
The BBS racing wheels look fantastic on this body imho.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010021.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010017.jpg
The rear wheels are too wide. They're also too wide if you try to squeeze the Tamiya wheels into the Fujimi chassis. So you'd have to narrow the rear wheels a bit on the inside I think. Or, extend the rear fender flares. Afaict, the wheels are the correct scale width (10" front, 12" rear). And from RSR pics it looks like the flares are pretty accurate too, so maybe the suspension needs to be tweaked a bit - anyway, plenty of options, it could be done.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010020.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010018.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP2/P1010022-1.jpg
ddtham
01-29-2009, 01:24 AM
Looks like those two (Tamiya chassis and RSR body) were meant for each other. Did you check whether Tamiya GT2 body will fit on the Fujimi RSR chassis? that way, you won't have to waste two kit halves and make a stock GT2 with street interior :D
I actually saw some people just smoothened the fenders rivets of the Tamiya GT2 to make it look like wide body 993 only.
I actually saw some people just smoothened the fenders rivets of the Tamiya GT2 to make it look like wide body 993 only.
jano11
01-29-2009, 04:39 AM
Great idea to try to use the Tamiya chassis together with Fujimi's RSR body.
IMO it looks excellent (rear wheels width aside).
Looking forward to see what you decide to do. :)
IMO it looks excellent (rear wheels width aside).
Looking forward to see what you decide to do. :)
Robi J
01-29-2009, 05:24 AM
Since I'm too lazy, I've yet assigned to the Fujimi RSR the BBS wheels and the complete cockpit from the Tamiya GT2.
I told you, Mark :iceslolan
Anyway, your latest photos speak for themselves.
Robi
I told you, Mark :iceslolan
Anyway, your latest photos speak for themselves.
Robi
mrawl
01-29-2009, 06:59 AM
I told you, Mark :iceslolan
Anyway, your latest photos speak for themselves.
Robi Damn - I just lost my reply to this (probably get a dup tomorrow).
Yes indeed, full credit for the idea!!! Actually, I had previously found someone on modelersite (I think) who had done this same conversion, but he used the Fujimi Speedline Turbo wheels (which are awesome, but wrong for the Le Mans car).
Btw, as you can see I removed and carved out the door handles (no damage, the originals will go back on - the Tamiya ones are slightly different). Also, got the rear spoiler on, which was a lot of work since the fit was attrocious if you want the correct one-piece look.
As for the chassis, if you put the bottom plate on the Tamiya, then you get suspension covers there too, and guess what? The Fujimi covers are MUCH nicer!!! So the main problem with the Fujimi is the crappy engine cover and the wrong exhaust. And of course all the interior stuff.
Anyway, we'll see, I might switch, not sure yet. Thanks for the idea.
Anyway, your latest photos speak for themselves.
Robi Damn - I just lost my reply to this (probably get a dup tomorrow).
Yes indeed, full credit for the idea!!! Actually, I had previously found someone on modelersite (I think) who had done this same conversion, but he used the Fujimi Speedline Turbo wheels (which are awesome, but wrong for the Le Mans car).
Btw, as you can see I removed and carved out the door handles (no damage, the originals will go back on - the Tamiya ones are slightly different). Also, got the rear spoiler on, which was a lot of work since the fit was attrocious if you want the correct one-piece look.
As for the chassis, if you put the bottom plate on the Tamiya, then you get suspension covers there too, and guess what? The Fujimi covers are MUCH nicer!!! So the main problem with the Fujimi is the crappy engine cover and the wrong exhaust. And of course all the interior stuff.
Anyway, we'll see, I might switch, not sure yet. Thanks for the idea.
mrawl
04-24-2009, 10:19 PM
Bringing this one up to date, not sure if I'll dive back into it yet.
When we left off, I was talking about either scratching out a 964 racing interior, or replacing the whole thing with the interior from the Tamiya 993 GT2 kit. Here's the Fujimi interior again - it's street stock. Totally wrong for the track car.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010009.jpg
And here are the Fujimi wheels I got, which turned out to be rather disappointing, though not completely disastrous.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010012.jpg
They have no dish though.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010016-1.jpg
So, err, maybe it can work with the Fujimi stuff. Let's explore...
I started hacking into the interior. Ripped out some rear seat stuff and the floor.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010014.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010013.jpg
Made a new firewall, and finished up the rear seat area.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010010.jpg
Here's the initial fit and look. It's not too bad I guess.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100121.jpg
And with the Fujimi roll cage, which is just horrible and needs tons of work.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100131.jpg
Not happy with that, so I ripped out the wheel arches, the door panels, and built up the chassis details a bit more. Glued all of that to the chassis. Looks much better. This is quite workable now, no problem at all...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010226.jpg
From the bottom. The big issue here was still the covered engine, I couldn't stand it so I chopped it out for a potential GT2 transplant.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010225.jpg
At this point, I got fed up and decided to go with the GT2 chassis. Like I said, it can be done with the Fujimi kit but it was getting ridiculous. I made some rear mounts for the Tamiya chassis.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010211.jpg
And front tabs on the chassis itself.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010212.jpg
And it fits like a glove.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010210.jpg
I did my research here, the GT2 chassis is *correct* for the 1994 RSR. The front suspension is correct too. Here it is with the very nice Tamiya BBS wheels. I had to make a few tweaks to get the right wheel alignment/stance.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010215.jpg
The Fujimi suspension/chassis covers are correct for this car, and look very good - much better than the Tamiya ones, so they were modified to fit too. The rear piece here includes the semi-trailing arm suspension which is correct for this car. The GT2 multi-link design is definitely wrong. So I will use the Fujimi rear suspension. However, the Fujimi design is pretty crappy (the arms, etc), so I will rework the rear suspension to look decent.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010216.jpg
Here's the stance so far. The front will end up a touch lower than this. The rear suspension and stance aren't right yet.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010219.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010221.jpg
Here are the door handles I chopped off. They're not bad, much more correct than the Tamiya ones, so I'll reuse them. They just need a bit of shaping.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100122.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100091.jpg
All in all, I'm glad I made the switch to the GT2 chassis/interior, it'll save me a lot of headaches with the interior. And I think the final thing will be accurate and could look pretty good. I mean to say, look at that body would ya?! Here's hoping anyway!
When we left off, I was talking about either scratching out a 964 racing interior, or replacing the whole thing with the interior from the Tamiya 993 GT2 kit. Here's the Fujimi interior again - it's street stock. Totally wrong for the track car.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010009.jpg
And here are the Fujimi wheels I got, which turned out to be rather disappointing, though not completely disastrous.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010012.jpg
They have no dish though.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010016-1.jpg
So, err, maybe it can work with the Fujimi stuff. Let's explore...
I started hacking into the interior. Ripped out some rear seat stuff and the floor.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010014.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010013.jpg
Made a new firewall, and finished up the rear seat area.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010010.jpg
Here's the initial fit and look. It's not too bad I guess.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100121.jpg
And with the Fujimi roll cage, which is just horrible and needs tons of work.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100131.jpg
Not happy with that, so I ripped out the wheel arches, the door panels, and built up the chassis details a bit more. Glued all of that to the chassis. Looks much better. This is quite workable now, no problem at all...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010226.jpg
From the bottom. The big issue here was still the covered engine, I couldn't stand it so I chopped it out for a potential GT2 transplant.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010225.jpg
At this point, I got fed up and decided to go with the GT2 chassis. Like I said, it can be done with the Fujimi kit but it was getting ridiculous. I made some rear mounts for the Tamiya chassis.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010211.jpg
And front tabs on the chassis itself.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010212.jpg
And it fits like a glove.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010210.jpg
I did my research here, the GT2 chassis is *correct* for the 1994 RSR. The front suspension is correct too. Here it is with the very nice Tamiya BBS wheels. I had to make a few tweaks to get the right wheel alignment/stance.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010215.jpg
The Fujimi suspension/chassis covers are correct for this car, and look very good - much better than the Tamiya ones, so they were modified to fit too. The rear piece here includes the semi-trailing arm suspension which is correct for this car. The GT2 multi-link design is definitely wrong. So I will use the Fujimi rear suspension. However, the Fujimi design is pretty crappy (the arms, etc), so I will rework the rear suspension to look decent.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010216.jpg
Here's the stance so far. The front will end up a touch lower than this. The rear suspension and stance aren't right yet.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010219.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P1010221.jpg
Here are the door handles I chopped off. They're not bad, much more correct than the Tamiya ones, so I'll reuse them. They just need a bit of shaping.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100122.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP3/P10100091.jpg
All in all, I'm glad I made the switch to the GT2 chassis/interior, it'll save me a lot of headaches with the interior. And I think the final thing will be accurate and could look pretty good. I mean to say, look at that body would ya?! Here's hoping anyway!
godfather23
04-25-2009, 07:08 AM
Way to go on this - what came out to be a conversion. And there is something I´ve learned today... A swap of chassis´ can solve an unsatisfying outcome.
Respect for your effort to make this thing look right.
Robert
Respect for your effort to make this thing look right.
Robert
Robi J
04-28-2009, 07:31 AM
Oh Lord, what a modification... :eek7:
Robi
Robi
mrawl
05-20-2009, 11:46 PM
I started putting together a new update, realized it was a bit long, so I'll split it up into two parts. Here's #1.
The rear cowl molding is pretty awful and it doesn't join the body properly, so I had to rip it off - it was driving me nuts.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010229.jpg
Ahh, that felt soooooo good... Here I am trying to fix the attrocious shape of this thing.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010239.jpg
Starting to look ok now.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010393.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010397.jpg
It's a somewhat subtle difference, but this actually looks like the real thing now.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010401.jpg
The weirdness of this kit continues - it includes lenses for the fog lights, but no lights. So I made some by jabbing a paint brush handle into some heated styrene.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010270.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010271.jpg
Again with this oddball kit. The instructions make no mention of the aero mirrors, but they are included. Here's a comparison.
Fujimi...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010276.jpg
Tamiya...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010285.jpg
Now I dunno about all this - despite looking at loads of reference pics I couldn't really decide if there is more than one version of the aero mirror. Some pics of this car seem to show a mirror that looks a bit more like the Fujimi one. However, the mounting stalk is definitely wrong. So I fixed that and went with the Fujimis.
I know this looks a bit odd, but the mirrors are mounted asymetrically and this setup is indeed what the real thing looks like.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010297.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010299.jpg
Here's the other thing that was really peeving me off. The roof gutters are just awful fat rounded lumps.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010303.jpg
And they don't even look correct, eg, here the roof above the door disappears, it shouldn't...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010305.jpg
So, I stripped the gutters off.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010309.jpg
Nekkid!
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010311.jpg
Scribed the door lines properly.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010322.jpg
And here's the new gutter.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010324.jpg
The angles are a bit out here - the rear window is not wide enough on this car, and the C-pillar should be less slanted. Oh well, we'll live with it.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010330.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010337.jpg
Some detail work on the lights.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010383.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010381.jpg
I have to do all this stuff before I can start painting, because I don't want to be handling the thing once it's painted.
The rear cowl molding is pretty awful and it doesn't join the body properly, so I had to rip it off - it was driving me nuts.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010229.jpg
Ahh, that felt soooooo good... Here I am trying to fix the attrocious shape of this thing.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010239.jpg
Starting to look ok now.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010393.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010397.jpg
It's a somewhat subtle difference, but this actually looks like the real thing now.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010401.jpg
The weirdness of this kit continues - it includes lenses for the fog lights, but no lights. So I made some by jabbing a paint brush handle into some heated styrene.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010270.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010271.jpg
Again with this oddball kit. The instructions make no mention of the aero mirrors, but they are included. Here's a comparison.
Fujimi...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010276.jpg
Tamiya...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010285.jpg
Now I dunno about all this - despite looking at loads of reference pics I couldn't really decide if there is more than one version of the aero mirror. Some pics of this car seem to show a mirror that looks a bit more like the Fujimi one. However, the mounting stalk is definitely wrong. So I fixed that and went with the Fujimis.
I know this looks a bit odd, but the mirrors are mounted asymetrically and this setup is indeed what the real thing looks like.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010297.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010299.jpg
Here's the other thing that was really peeving me off. The roof gutters are just awful fat rounded lumps.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010303.jpg
And they don't even look correct, eg, here the roof above the door disappears, it shouldn't...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010305.jpg
So, I stripped the gutters off.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010309.jpg
Nekkid!
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010311.jpg
Scribed the door lines properly.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010322.jpg
And here's the new gutter.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010324.jpg
The angles are a bit out here - the rear window is not wide enough on this car, and the C-pillar should be less slanted. Oh well, we'll live with it.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010330.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010337.jpg
Some detail work on the lights.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010383.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP4/P1010381.jpg
I have to do all this stuff before I can start painting, because I don't want to be handling the thing once it's painted.
Entau
05-21-2009, 01:11 AM
the repairs looks great :), the scratch built light pod looks like its in the kit :bigthumb:
lotus123
05-21-2009, 02:01 AM
Hi Mark
Your door panel lines look great.
What did you use to make them? How do you trace the curve so neatly - did you make a guide?
Graham
Your door panel lines look great.
What did you use to make them? How do you trace the curve so neatly - did you make a guide?
Graham
TRBJ
05-21-2009, 06:57 AM
Hi Mark
Your door panel lines look great.
What did you use to make them? How do you trace the curve so neatly - did you make a guide?
Graham
im curious too:eek7:
or maybe hes not entirel human:screwy:
Your door panel lines look great.
What did you use to make them? How do you trace the curve so neatly - did you make a guide?
Graham
im curious too:eek7:
or maybe hes not entirel human:screwy:
Voljeepx
05-21-2009, 10:45 AM
Nice mods on this car! Keep up the good work. Loved the Taisan Porsche you just completed, so I know this one is gonna be special!
Outamyhead
05-21-2009, 12:29 PM
Can't wait to see the end result as well as any further work your putting into the car, I'm starting to get a soft spot for the Porsche now.
Mikezibit
05-21-2009, 02:04 PM
HI
good work, I built the 964 Turbo with the Tamiya GT2 chassis, fits perfect, wheelbase, exhaust, dashboard, rollcage......
http://www.scaleproduction.de/htmlbilder/bilder/100_8765a.JPG
http://www.scaleproduction.de/htmlbilder/bilder/100_8752a.jpg
Mikezibit:evillol:
good work, I built the 964 Turbo with the Tamiya GT2 chassis, fits perfect, wheelbase, exhaust, dashboard, rollcage......
http://www.scaleproduction.de/htmlbilder/bilder/100_8765a.JPG
http://www.scaleproduction.de/htmlbilder/bilder/100_8752a.jpg
Mikezibit:evillol:
mrawl
05-22-2009, 02:01 AM
Nice one Mike. Those wheels look great. I guess yours is a turbo, 'cause the RSR ain't, so it has different exhaust, no i/c etc.
Graham and TRBJ, depends on what you're scribing. If you're following an old line you can get away with anything. For the door, it's a smooth, straightish curve so I made a light starting scratch with a pick and French curve, then used a straight PE saw blade, relying on its flexibility and tendency to track a smooth curve, to get it going properly and evenly. Even on a tight corner you're better off using a curved blade than a point, so it tracks instead of wandering.
Outamyhead, snickety-snickety, vroom-vroom, mmm Porsche....
Graham and TRBJ, depends on what you're scribing. If you're following an old line you can get away with anything. For the door, it's a smooth, straightish curve so I made a light starting scratch with a pick and French curve, then used a straight PE saw blade, relying on its flexibility and tendency to track a smooth curve, to get it going properly and evenly. Even on a tight corner you're better off using a curved blade than a point, so it tracks instead of wandering.
Outamyhead, snickety-snickety, vroom-vroom, mmm Porsche....
mrawl
05-24-2009, 01:12 AM
Here's the second part of that update...
As I mentioned, I really like the Fujimi chassis cover plates, but the front was missing the lip spoilers - added here. Only problem is those horrible molded grills...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010361.jpg
...Fixed. I built and fitted the grills separately, but if I was to do it again, I'd probably mount the cross beams and build them in place. Same result though, either way.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010374.jpg
This is very close to the real thing - Fujimi did an excellent job on the basic part.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010375.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010388.jpg
The RSR uses a semi-trailing arm rear suspension which can be built with a mix of Tamiya and Fujimi parts.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010422.jpg
Some chopping.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010423.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010424.jpg
Shortened the axles, a bit too short actually, but I wanted the boots to be visible.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010426.jpg
In situ.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010444.jpg
Front suspension - modified Tamiya parts with modified Fujimi covers.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010445.jpg
The RSR is non-turbo, so I can't really use the Tamiya exhaust. I tried building one from solder and tube, modeled after a real reference.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010451.jpg
Basic version on the left, more detail on the right. I tried some experimental colors just to see if it would come up ok. Might change it a bit before it's finished.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010453.jpg
Here's the stance with the suspension finished. I might drop the front a touch, but I think it suits this car ok as is. Whaddya think? Also, you can see where I scribed the lower skirt lines here.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010461.jpg
Here's all those cover plates. I had to make the ones on the right since they're molded into the Fujimi chassis, and they're missing from the Tamiya kit entirely - 'cause the GT2 uses one big plate for the most part.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010463.jpg
And the chassis all fitted up. The GT2 has wider rear wheels and arches than the RSR, so I had to narrow the rear tires. To do that, I mounted them in the Dremel and ground some rubber off the inside, preserving the sidewall shape of course.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010466.jpg
The RSR has a different rear bumper cover center piece from the street (kit) version. This is not quite finished yet, but you get the idea. And I did some detailing on the lights.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010479.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010481.jpg
Does anyone have a tip for removing the tire mold lines without roughing them up too much? I'd like to preserve the slick look if I can.
As I mentioned, I really like the Fujimi chassis cover plates, but the front was missing the lip spoilers - added here. Only problem is those horrible molded grills...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010361.jpg
...Fixed. I built and fitted the grills separately, but if I was to do it again, I'd probably mount the cross beams and build them in place. Same result though, either way.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010374.jpg
This is very close to the real thing - Fujimi did an excellent job on the basic part.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010375.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010388.jpg
The RSR uses a semi-trailing arm rear suspension which can be built with a mix of Tamiya and Fujimi parts.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010422.jpg
Some chopping.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010423.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010424.jpg
Shortened the axles, a bit too short actually, but I wanted the boots to be visible.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010426.jpg
In situ.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010444.jpg
Front suspension - modified Tamiya parts with modified Fujimi covers.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010445.jpg
The RSR is non-turbo, so I can't really use the Tamiya exhaust. I tried building one from solder and tube, modeled after a real reference.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010451.jpg
Basic version on the left, more detail on the right. I tried some experimental colors just to see if it would come up ok. Might change it a bit before it's finished.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010453.jpg
Here's the stance with the suspension finished. I might drop the front a touch, but I think it suits this car ok as is. Whaddya think? Also, you can see where I scribed the lower skirt lines here.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010461.jpg
Here's all those cover plates. I had to make the ones on the right since they're molded into the Fujimi chassis, and they're missing from the Tamiya kit entirely - 'cause the GT2 uses one big plate for the most part.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010463.jpg
And the chassis all fitted up. The GT2 has wider rear wheels and arches than the RSR, so I had to narrow the rear tires. To do that, I mounted them in the Dremel and ground some rubber off the inside, preserving the sidewall shape of course.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010466.jpg
The RSR has a different rear bumper cover center piece from the street (kit) version. This is not quite finished yet, but you get the idea. And I did some detailing on the lights.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010479.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP5/P1010481.jpg
Does anyone have a tip for removing the tire mold lines without roughing them up too much? I'd like to preserve the slick look if I can.
jano11
05-24-2009, 04:53 AM
Excellent mods. The scratch built exhaust looks impressively realistic!
Mikezibit
05-24-2009, 11:05 AM
HI
nice exhaust, here are original pics
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=464151
Mikezibit
nice exhaust, here are original pics
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=464151
Mikezibit
Duncan1098
05-26-2009, 07:31 AM
Looking really great, love all the scratch built bits, very well done, this is going to be quite something when finished. Ref to the tyres, I use a sanding stick to remove the lines, then use some micromesh paper to smooth it down abit.
gtziaf
05-26-2009, 10:13 AM
Awesome work!
Good luck until the finish!!
Good luck until the finish!!
Tibi Keke
05-26-2009, 01:00 PM
Great work Mark!
This will be again a great Porsche!
This will be again a great Porsche!
Brat_R
05-26-2009, 05:34 PM
This Porsche is turning out very nicely!! Like the mods! About tires - U can try to put them into freezer for a nigth, rubber will get harder and it will be easier to remove molding lines without any harm.
Robi J
06-03-2009, 04:06 AM
Outstanding patience and research on every single detail. The job you’re doing on the undercarriage plates is impressive.
R :)
R :)
lascar
06-08-2009, 01:33 PM
Very nice job !!!!!!!!!
It's seems to me if I well remember that there was mistakes on the decal sheet ( wrong colors on some lettering and some mistake on world like :24 heures do man... )
I have write that some where ,if I find it I tell you.
It's seems to me if I well remember that there was mistakes on the decal sheet ( wrong colors on some lettering and some mistake on world like :24 heures do man... )
I have write that some where ,if I find it I tell you.
mrawl
07-04-2009, 06:38 AM
Yeh, you're right, it does say 24 heurs domans! (groan...)
Anyway, I've been super busy but got a little bit done. I found some interesting reference pics with some unusual features that I thought I'd try to incorporate - just to be a bit different, you know... ;)
First is the missing engine mounting cradle, complete with some funky looking jacket thingo. It's some sort of shield I guess, not really sure what it is to be honest. The trick with this thing will be in the painting/weathering and also some minor details still to do when I finish it up.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010497.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010498.jpg
It fits well and is much more realistic I think. If the cradle is missing it looks quite odd when compared to the real thing. It's just an experiment really, ymmv...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010501.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010503.jpg
I had to tweak the roll cage a bit for the best fit. I'm stretching it and raising the front a tad in this pic.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010491.jpg
The back half is completely rebuilt to match the RSR cage.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010509.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010510.jpg
In the car, starting to look like the reference pics. I'm quite happy with this now, it's a vast improvement over the Fujimi kit rubbish.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010512.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010515.jpg
Here's the dash at this stage, but I'm gonna chop it up for another fun experiment!
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010517.jpg
Here's the frame which will hold the chopped dash. This is what you'd see in a real Porsche (the exposed bits at least).
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010601.jpg
Et voila! The industrial/grunge dash look. This will be a real man's Porsche :)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010609.jpg
The Tamiya chassis is all wrong under the dash, fixing it up here. The build-ups you see here should coincide with the framing under the chassis, eg, the passenger foot-well wall forms a box accessible from under the car. I might need to move it forward a bit here, but the chassis is a little bit off in these details. Obviously this needs some more cleanup work.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010612.jpg
That wall at the back of the parcel shelf is also there in the real car. Just as well too, it helps the windows to sit properly.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010619.jpg
Hopefully I can get some more done soon - stay tuned!
Anyway, I've been super busy but got a little bit done. I found some interesting reference pics with some unusual features that I thought I'd try to incorporate - just to be a bit different, you know... ;)
First is the missing engine mounting cradle, complete with some funky looking jacket thingo. It's some sort of shield I guess, not really sure what it is to be honest. The trick with this thing will be in the painting/weathering and also some minor details still to do when I finish it up.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010497.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010498.jpg
It fits well and is much more realistic I think. If the cradle is missing it looks quite odd when compared to the real thing. It's just an experiment really, ymmv...
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010501.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010503.jpg
I had to tweak the roll cage a bit for the best fit. I'm stretching it and raising the front a tad in this pic.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010491.jpg
The back half is completely rebuilt to match the RSR cage.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010509.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010510.jpg
In the car, starting to look like the reference pics. I'm quite happy with this now, it's a vast improvement over the Fujimi kit rubbish.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010512.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010515.jpg
Here's the dash at this stage, but I'm gonna chop it up for another fun experiment!
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010517.jpg
Here's the frame which will hold the chopped dash. This is what you'd see in a real Porsche (the exposed bits at least).
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010601.jpg
Et voila! The industrial/grunge dash look. This will be a real man's Porsche :)
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010609.jpg
The Tamiya chassis is all wrong under the dash, fixing it up here. The build-ups you see here should coincide with the framing under the chassis, eg, the passenger foot-well wall forms a box accessible from under the car. I might need to move it forward a bit here, but the chassis is a little bit off in these details. Obviously this needs some more cleanup work.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010612.jpg
That wall at the back of the parcel shelf is also there in the real car. Just as well too, it helps the windows to sit properly.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x97/mrmodels/Porsche%20RSR%201994%20Le%20Mans/WIP6/P1010619.jpg
Hopefully I can get some more done soon - stay tuned!
lascar
07-04-2009, 08:02 AM
Great job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tibi Keke
07-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Man!!! You are working, not kidding!
Sensational!
Sensational!
gionc
07-05-2009, 07:18 AM
What to say....
Anyone wanted to do a quick week end project with a cheap Fuji RSR would now coose other subjects.... you pushed the bar in the matter quite HI! Bravo.
Anyone wanted to do a quick week end project with a cheap Fuji RSR would now coose other subjects.... you pushed the bar in the matter quite HI! Bravo.
mrgixxer
07-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Wow...Nice work
MidMazar
07-06-2009, 01:04 PM
Wow so much detail. I love the scratch building!! The exhausts look like they got hot, and in real life i saw porsche 911 turbos glow red on the dyno!!
Keep us updated, great work. Can't wait to see it finished!
Keep us updated, great work. Can't wait to see it finished!
mrawl
07-07-2009, 02:27 AM
Yeh, I love scratch-building too, it's the most fun and interesting part to me. And yeh, I know, not exactly a weekend job ;), but with this kit it's either fix it up or toss it out. I wouldn't bother trying to build it OOB.
Robi J
07-10-2009, 08:35 AM
Wow, you're turning upside-down this Fujimi :grinyes:
Excellent ideas and execution, bravo Mark !!!
Robi
Excellent ideas and execution, bravo Mark !!!
Robi
capella13b
07-12-2009, 01:55 AM
Really nice work converting this.
Decs0105
07-12-2009, 03:16 AM
awesome job, love all the scratch building!
Raikkobin
07-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Lovely work. The shield piece for the engine is simply the engine carrier in the back and valve covers in the sides. Tamiya leaves these missing as well. The back cover and exhaust holders are seperate on the real car but difficult to distinguish on the kit. I work for Porsche and know the underside of these cars well if you have any q's. Nice work
mrawl
07-13-2009, 05:31 AM
Thanks Raikkobin! You know what, I think I will hit you up with some questions actually! I've done exhaust carriers btw, they're not standard, kinda funky looking things, will show next update. The only other detail I really want to add here is the oil line that runs from the case, then goes over the transmission, then up the other side of the engine ... to where??? I'm just gonna drill a hole somewhere and disappear it into that, but I wish I could find a pic showing its proper run. Do you know what I mean? lol...
Raikkobin
07-30-2009, 05:42 PM
Hi, sorry for the tardy reply. My notifications for this article weren't coming in. To answer your question, it goes to an oil tank on the backside of the pass side cylinder head. I'll see if I can dig a picture up for you. It is a kidney shaped housing with a prominent seam down the middle. There is a Hex headed drain on the bottom of it. 19mm Bolt on the real thing. This is on a stock car though, racing models rarely use the factory dry-sump tank.
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