I have a 2001 grand prix gt 3.8 non-supercharged. I just bought a replacment remote from ebay. The numbers all match and the remote is new with a good battery. I cant get the car to get into program mode my old remotes still work they are just broke(wont stay on key chain). What am i doing wrong. These are the steps that i found.

Perform the following steps:

1. Sit in the vehicle driver's seat.

2. Remove the ignition key from the ignition lock cylinder.

3. Close all of the vehicle's doors.

4. Remove the MALL PGM fuse from the fuse panel.

5. Turn the ignition lock cylinder to the ACC position.

6. Turn the ignition lock cylinder OFF, then back to ACC within 1 second.

7. Open and then close any vehicle door. You will hear a chime when the remote control door lock receiver enters the programming/diagnostic mode. If you do not hear a chime, start again at step 1. If the remote control door lock receiver does not enter the programming/diagnostic mode after a second attempt, refer to Electrical Diagnosis.

(I cant get it to work i pulled the fuse then did all the rest it never chimes when i open the door) please help i feel retarted

Take it to the dealer,has to be done with the Tech 2 and this is the only way to do it.

It looks like your procedure is missing some steps or incorrect so try the RKE programming procedure below:


RKE Programming 2001 Grand Prix

IMPORTANT: Before entering programming mode, have in possession all of the transmitters you will be using on the vehicle. Once you program the transmitter, all previous codes will be erased from the memory. The other transmitters will not be functional until you program the transmitters again.

1. Remove the key from the ignition.

2. Close all of the doors.

3. Remove the “ MALL PGM” fuse from the fuse panel. Use the legend on the fuse panel or owner’s manual to properly locate the “ MALL PGM” fuse.

4. Insert the keys into the ignition, and turn to the ACC position.

5. Turn the key to OFF and then back to ACC within 1 second.

6. Open and close any vehicle door. A chime will be heard when the system enters the programming mode.

7. Press and hold the transmitter LOCK and UNLOCK buttons simultaneously for 14 seconds. IMPORTANT: After 7 seconds, a chime may be heard confirming successful synchronization. It is necessary to wait approximately 14 seconds for a second chime that will confirm successful programming.

8. Repeat the previous step on each additional transmitter to be programmed (including any existing remotes).

9. Remove the key from the ignition.

10. Install the “MALL PGM” fuse.

I used the above proceedure with success. However, it seemed when i tried it by myself it wouldn't work. I had my wife sit in the passenger seat and pull the Mall PGM fuse for me and it worked 1st try. When I attempted to lean from the driver's seat to the fuse panel on the far passenger side by myself, it seemed to screw something up as I tried 3 or 4 times by myself before getting the wife to help.

You mean you didn't need a GM Tech 2 scan tool Rich? Will wonders never cease. :lol:

Also, depending on the level of BCM module and as long as RKE is supported you may get different indications it is going into programming mode.

Either or on the chimes or indication.

Flash the seat belt indicator 1, 2, or 3 times.
Chime 1, 2, or 3 times.

You mean you didn't need a GM Tech 2 scan tool Rich? Will wonders never cease. :lol:



Actually, that's my pet name for my wife, :lol: , maybe that's why having her help worked. :lol2:

It is much faster to with the Tech 2,the Mitchell and Alldata says it has to be done with the Tech 2 only.All GM key fobs have to programed with the Tech 2.

:shakehead They don't have to be, because I've programmed many of them without one. Many of the 04-newer GM vehicles need a tech 2, but the car in this post (01 Grand Prix) does not require a Tech 2. :sly:

It is much faster to with the Tech 2,the Mitchell and Alldata says it has to be done with the Tech 2 only.All GM key fobs have to programed with the Tech 2.

:confused:

Obviously you are using the wrong references. :nono: The RKE procedure posted for the 2001 Grand Prix is basically out of the Helm GM Grand Prix Factory Service Manual. If you are going to give advice in this forum then give the proper advice that will save our members money, time and effort and that it pertains specifically to the Grand Prix models, in this case '97-'03 models.

The easier way is with the Tech 2.I looked it up on the Mitchell once and says the Tech 2 has to be used.I gaurentee the Tech2 is faster than this sow procedure

The easier way is with the Tech 2.I looked it up on the Mitchell once and says the Tech 2 has to be used.I gaurentee the Tech2 is faster than this sow procedure

Use your common sense. The so called "sow" procedure is free and well tested by our membership meaning it works. If you had a '97-'03 Grand Prix you would know that too. Like the OP has a $5000 Tech 2 scan tool at his convenience? That would mean a trip to the dealership where it would most likely cost the OP around $40-$80. Please post that reference from the Mitchells where it says a Tech 2 has to be used.

I agree Bob. Sure the Tech-2 is easier for those that have access to one, but saying it HAS to be used is absolutely false. The biggest purpose to these forums is to help people fix it themselves (preferably for free), rather than telling them they have to use a $5,000 GM tool to do it. Get our point Wafrederick?

Like I always said when i ask a question this forum has always been there to help. I cant think you enough. (as for the person with the tech 2 advice, i cant afford 5000 grand if i could i would have a new g8 and not have to shop on ebay) but never the less i appreciate the advice and will have my girlfriend give me a hand and hope it will work like i said (little slow i am) thank guys,.:licka:

What I am telling is true,you cannot program a GM key fob without the Tech 2.Mitchell and All data does get thier info from GM and says the Tech 2 has to be used.

What I am telling is true,you cannot program a GM key fob without the Tech 2.Mitchell and All data does get thier info from GM and says the Tech 2 has to be used.

BS! My GF only got one remote with her 2002 GP SE. She ordered one off ebay for 20 bucks. the same day it came I used the above mentioned procedure. And like Rich said, it took two people, one to pull the fuse and other to do the programming. It works 100%. You just have to remember to reprogram all the remotes after you pull the fuse, not just the new one.

wafrederick, you reference mitchell and alldata? Why would someone spend money to subscriptions to both online repair manuals?

To the OP, were you able to get it programmed sucessfully?

What gets me is his claim pertaining to all GM cars that a Tech 2 is required to program a key fob which is not true. Many GM cars depending on year do not need a Tech 2 to program the key fobs. Not only have I done my GTP without one but both '99 and '01 Regals. I guess he is assuming it is all in our imaginations but we know better. :screwy:

My father does it with the Tech 2 and it is faster.It takes 30 minute to do it this way and 10 minutes with the Tech 2.

Yes it may take longer to program, but the forum is about trying to save the members money. Especially in these hard economic times. Who has about 5 grand laying around, to spend on a GM tech 2 code reader. I for one don't. Going to the dealer to get key fob programed, you are at their mercy of how much the charge will be.

My father does it with the Tech 2 and it is faster.It takes 30 minute to do it this way and 10 minutes with the Tech 2.

By the time you go get the tech 2 out, plug it in, fumble your way through the screens to find the section where you re-program a new remote, and actually do it, I think just yanking the mall/pgm fuse, hitting lock/unlock on all remotes, and replacing the fuse is going to be about the same amount of time if not less. You have access to a tech2 (I envy you). I dont. Besides when we reprogrammed the new remote in my g/f's car it didnt take a half hour. IN fact I think we were on our way out for dinner, we stopped by and got the mail (remote was there), and I think we programmed it in the parking lot of the resturaunt. :grinyes:

What I am telling is true,you cannot program a GM key fob without the Tech 2.Mitchell and All data does get thier info from GM and says the Tech 2 has to be used.

You are wrong.

Wafrederick,

If it takes you 30 minutes to program a remote without a tech 2, you've got serious issues. I have used this proceedure on quite a few cars, and can do it in under 5 minutes (probably closer to 2 minutes or less), and I'm growing tired of you telling people that you HAVE to use a tech-2, as that statement is 100% absolutely FALSE. Are you picking up what I (as an AF moderator) am putting down here?!?!