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bmwmech1
01-03-2009, 03:17 PM
This build was started with the intent of building the definitive F40 and I'm using the kit as a jumping off point. Most everything in the kit will not be used and I am not using the Autograph Transkit, so it's all scratchbuilt from the Ferrari Manuals and reference I have collected. The photos should speak for themselves as to where I'm going with this build and your critiques are welcome, since there are many talented builders here. Thanks for looking and enjoy!http://photobucket.com/Pocher_F40_WIP:smile::smile::smile:

BM1

Twowheelsrule
01-04-2009, 01:06 AM
Copy and paste the IMG code that goes with the photo you want to show. Your car looks like a very interesting project keep posting more!

TW

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody4.jpg

Bartak
01-04-2009, 04:23 AM
That frame is absolutelly stunning...keep up posting.

Decs0105
01-04-2009, 05:45 AM
That frame looks stunning!!! Looking forward to more progress :popcorn:

But I agree with Twowhellsrules, maybe you should just post the pics here.
Most people come here to enjoy the pics without much clicking through other websites..

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 07:27 AM
That frame looks stunning!!! Looking forward to more progress :popcorn:

But I agree with Twowhellsrules, maybe you should just post the pics here.
Most people come here to enjoy the pics without much clicking through other websites..

That is what I wanted to do originally... I know the extra clicking keeps alot of people from seeing all that's available to view. I'll try and figure this out and post them here. Thanks for the compliments, everyone.

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 07:32 AM
Body and frame shots...

http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/th_FrameinBody4.jpg
http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/th_FrameinBody5.jpg
http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/th_FrameinBody6.jpg
http://s713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/th_FrameNaked1.jpg

Hope these copy correctly!

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 07:38 AM
Okay, that didn't work... one more try...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody4.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody5.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody6.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameNaked1.jpg

I think I got it this time... Enjoy!

BM1


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voyageur
01-04-2009, 07:51 AM
Welcome to AF! That looks like a great start to me...

Keep posting the pictures here. You'll get a lot more response if the pics are visible within the AF thread. Slightly larger wouldn't hurt, make it 800x600px.

Great frame. Is it brass rod soldered together? Or painted plastic tubing?

Hope to see more soon.

cinqster
01-04-2009, 07:52 AM
Wow...looks fantastic! Would love to see bigger pictures though please.

Not sure if you know about this company but thought it may interest you:

http://www.modellautotechnik.de/xtcommerce/product_info.php?info=p167_Ferrari-F40-Transkit-IMSA.html&XTCsid=050c6c0b965744f0ed1444e1f5813367

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 10:29 AM
Great frame. Is it brass rod soldered together? Or painted plastic tubing?

Hope to see more soon.[/quote]

Yes, it's brass round tubing, square tubing and round solid rod and alot of patience. Actually, I have about 30 hours in the frame so far. The basic frame is done now, but I have alot of smaller elements still to add so I'll probably double or maybe triple my time invested before it's ready for primer.

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 10:34 AM
Wow...looks fantastic! Would love to see bigger pictures though please.

Not sure if you know about this company but thought it may interest you:

http://www.modellautotechnik.de/xtcommerce/product_info.php?info=p167_Ferrari-F40-Transkit-IMSA.html&XTCsid=050c6c0b965744f0ed1444e1f5813367

Thanks, I will resize the pics from now on and see if I can get them a little larger. I do know of that site and may get the window net set, but the rest is being scratchbuilt. No big transkits for me... I can't justify the cost, plus the wife would shoot me, lol! I am travelling this afternoon, so I'll post more later tonight... Stay tuned...

BM1

ScratchBuilt
01-04-2009, 02:04 PM
Very nice - 1/8 scale, scratch-built, lots of tubing: my sort of project!

That's good going for 30 hours on the chassis - from my experience (in plastic) I usually reckon on about 1/2 hour per tube...but 917's do have a lot of tubes.

Looking forward to seeing how this one develops - engine, interior, etc - and hoping to pick up a few ideas along the way.

Good luck!

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Very nice - 1/8 scale, scratch-built, lots of tubing: my sort of project!

That's good going for 30 hours on the chassis - from my experience (in plastic) I usually reckon on about 1/2 hour per tube...but 917's do have a lot of tubes.

Looking forward to seeing how this one develops - engine, interior, etc - and hoping to pick up a few ideas along the way.

Good luck!
Thanks, if I can get this one finished, it should be phenomenal. I'm going to re-post the frame pics and post the engine pics in a larger size... This should fix this thread and everyone's desire to see the photos bigger...:smile:

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 09:01 PM
2 Re-sized Frame Pics Here

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody6-1.jpg
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BM1

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameNaked1-1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 09:04 PM
2 more re-sized frame pics here...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameNaked1-1.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/FrameinBody4-1.jpg

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 09:24 PM
Here are a couple of shots of the cam covers in primer... I modified them so they fit like a cam cover should. I also modified the heads so the ends of the cam bore castings stuck out from both ends of the heads with aluminum tubing, which connects to the timing belt covers on the front end. At the back are the mounts for the Magnetti Marelli cam position sensors and breather outlet and cover plates also made from aluminum tubing. Those who have built this motor with or without the Autograph TK know what the cam covers look like stock and should be able to pick out the differences. I also added the correct PCV scavenge hose tubes right above the Ferrari logos with brass tubing. Oh, and these cam covers are cast from metal, the logos filed off, P/E logos added and then textured, primed and shot with Tamiya TS-8.

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1880.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1879.jpg

Stay tuned, more to come...

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 09:47 PM
Now we start into the engine photos... I'll try to describe the changes and mods, but if you see something or have a question, just ask.

First up is a straight-on shot... water pump modified with correct outlets on front and rear of thermostat housing, Alt and A/C brackets made from brass, alternator is adjustable for correct belt tension via brass bolts, misc detailing with brass and stainless bolts washers, nuts...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1901.jpg

Next is a rear shot, showing the modified oil filter/oil pressure mount with correct pressure line outlets for the return line and feed lines for the turbos and the sending unit electrical connector, Magnetti/Marelli Cam sensor housings with electrical connectors added, breather tube with P/E clamp(still another clamp and P/E coverplate to add at bottom where it disappears into the belhousing) P/E inspection "grid" on top of bellhousing and misc nuts, bolts, washers...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1902.jpg

Now I'll just post a few more shots and you all can ask questions at will... The acorn nuts are from Marvin at Model Motorcars and a keen eye will notice the mods to the exhaust manifold flange castings on the cylinder head and the modified intake manifold mounting area. Both have been heavily modified to be more correct and I'll post pics when they are ready to fit to the motor... Enjoy again! BM1

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1904.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1897.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1898.jpg

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1899.jpg

AustinMartin
01-04-2009, 09:58 PM
Wow!

CFarias
01-04-2009, 10:04 PM
Very nice work. Are you using resistance soldering for the brass joints and, if so, what brand/set up are you using.

Thanks in advance.

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 10:13 PM
Very nice work. Are you using resistance soldering for the brass joints and, if so, what brand/set up are you using.

Thanks in advance.
Good observation, Chris... I have an American Beauty setup, with the straight tip, ground lead and footswitch, plus a couple of butane torches of various sizes. It's kind of like arc welding with brass and solder... it works very well and the heat is very concentrated. Marvin from www.modelmotorcars.com (http://www.modelmotorcars.com) was telling me about a supertrick hydrogen torch setup that I may get as well. It is expensive, but the tip is the size of a hypodermic needle and it can burn at up to 5000 degrees F! Talk about pinpoint heat! Anyway, that's down the road a bit, but yes, almost the entire frame has been done with a resistance setup.

BM1

bmwmech1
01-04-2009, 10:15 PM
Good observation, Chris... I have an American Beauty setup, with the straight tip, ground lead and footswitch, plus a couple of butane torches of various sizes. It's kind of like arc welding with brass and solder... it works very well and the heat is very concentrated. Marvin from www.modelmotorcars.com (http://www.modelmotorcars.com) was telling me about a supertrick hydrogen torch setup that I may get as well. It is expensive, but the tip is the size of a hypodermic needle and it can burn at up to 5000 degrees F! Talk about pinpoint heat! Anyway, that's down the road a bit, but yes, almost the entire frame has been done with a resistance setup.

BM1

Sorry, but for some reason I assumed when I was typing that your name was Chris...if it is, great guess, if not, sorry to offend. Stupid me... I hit the post reply button too soon...

BM1

mrawl
01-05-2009, 04:44 AM
Superbly interesting WIP! Thank you. Don't be afraid to hit us with all the building details and techniques! I think I could grow to like the larger scales, seems a bit more like building something accurately than struggling to build an approximation. Well, it's all a matter of degree I guess, but anyway, fantastic stuff, keep it coming!

nipponts
01-05-2009, 06:29 AM
Amazing chassis ! :eek7:

bmwmech1
01-05-2009, 06:36 AM
Thanks everyone, I have not made much progress over the holidays... too many things going on, but I will get some more stuff up soon. There's still a ton more to do on the chassis and engine and I have not even started on the interior or body yet. BTW, the big plan for the body is to cast the white metal in plaster sections and "lay-up" an entire new body frm a gelcoat/fiberglass composite. Much closer to the proper thickness and I can laminate it to the frame, just like Ferrari builds it! Stay tuned...

BM1

cinqster
01-05-2009, 11:15 AM
Good grief! That's gorgeous:eek:

cinqster
01-05-2009, 11:25 AM
BTW, the big plan for the body is to cast the white metal in plaster sections and "lay-up" an entire new body frm a gelcoat/fiberglass composite. Much closer to the proper thickness and I can laminate it to the frame, just like Ferrari builds it! Stay tuned...

BM1

I'd love to see how you get on with this process as this is exactly how I want to make the body for my Spyder. I know someone who lays up 1/8th car bodies in prepregnated carbon fibre this way, but he's fortunate to have access to an autoclave oven. The advantages are that he gets perfect 1mm thick shells every time.

vagrant1958
01-05-2009, 11:29 AM
Thanks everyone, I have not made much progress over the holidays... too many things going on, but I will get some more stuff up soon. There's still a ton more to do on the chassis and engine and I have not even started on the interior or body yet. BTW, the big plan for the body is to cast the white metal in plaster sections and "lay-up" an entire new body frm a gelcoat/fiberglass composite. Much closer to the proper thickness and I can laminate it to the frame, just like Ferrari builds it! Stay tuned...

BM1

Fantastic work so far! I understand why you are trying to remake as much as possible, the Pocher fits are terrible and sometimes the parts are so unrepresentative...I have spent ages just on the Testarossa engine and don't seem to make any progress.

Would love to hear more on some of your techniques and materials, especially the painted effects you have already achieved on the engine. Also where do you source your brass bolts from?

Question regarding casting the body from the Pocher white metal body and then laying up in fibreglass.....Surely, your tubular body chassis will then be the wrong size if you then have the proper thickness??.....hope you can work that one out (no doubting you will looking at your skills).

Good luck

bmwmech1
01-05-2009, 03:24 PM
I'd love to see how you get on with this process as this is exactly how I want to make the body for my Spyder. I know someone who lays up 1/8th car bodies in prepregnated carbon fibre this way, but he's fortunate to have access to an autoclave oven. The advantages are that he gets perfect 1mm thick shells every time.

I looked at your Spyder thread... now that's scratchbuilding!!! Nothing like doing it the way it's done in 1:1! Yes, having access to an autoclave would be awesome, but alas, in all of the equipment in my shop, I don't have an autoclave.:mad: So I'll use the method that I'm familiar with, which is fiberglass. I won't start the body for a bit yet, since I want to get the frame/suspension done first, but I'm sure there will be lots of eager viewers when I start in on the mold making! I may get some work done in the next few days, so stay tuned... And I'll be looking for progress on your Spyder, too!!!

BM1

CFarias
01-05-2009, 07:05 PM
Sorry, but for some reason I assumed when I was typing that your name was Chris...if it is, great guess, if not, sorry to offend. Stupid me... I hit the post reply button too soon...

BM1

No sweat! I looked at some American Beauty's on the MicroMark website. What wattage is your system?

bmwmech1
01-05-2009, 07:42 PM
No sweat! I looked at some American Beauty's on the MicroMark website. What wattage is your system?

It's the 105-A3, which is the 100w system. Didn't figure I'd ever need more power than that, since I'm not soldering very thick material, even at this scale. I'm sure if you get one, you won't be dissatisfied. I wasn't, for sure...

BM1

bmwmech1
01-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Uh oh... There's an Autograph Transkit on ebay... starting bid $1.00... Oh my... resist the temptation, resist the temptation:evillol::evillol::evillol:

Nah... it would make it too easy, right? Where's the fun in that?:banghead::banghead::banghead:

BM1

360spider
01-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Awesome frame. Engine looks great too.
Keep on plugging at it!

endac
01-06-2009, 06:06 AM
Wow looks incredible, cant wait to see more

bmwmech1
01-06-2009, 09:58 AM
Fantastic work so far! I understand why you are trying to remake as much as possible, the Pocher fits are terrible and sometimes the parts are so unrepresentative...I have spent ages just on the Testarossa engine and don't seem to make any progress.

Would love to hear more on some of your techniques and materials, especially the painted effects you have already achieved on the engine. Also where do you source your brass bolts from?

Question regarding casting the body from the Pocher white metal body and then laying up in fibreglass.....Surely, your tubular body chassis will then be the wrong size if you then have the proper thickness??.....hope you can work that one out (no doubting you will looking at your skills).

Good luck

Yes, the newer Pocher kits leave alot to be desired, but that is my motivation, right?
I'll try to answer your questions individually...the paint/textures on everything are derived from what the real parts look/feel like. Is it a smooth finish, machined finish, rough finish, etc? Then what can I use to replicate the finish... I use textured primers, flat or semi-gloss topcoats and even craft buffing paints like gold leaf or real silver for weathering effects to simulate real metal. Plus, all of the standard lacquers like Metalizer and Alclad to achieve the "right looking" finish. The engine has not been fully weathered yet, so it should look even more realistic when complete.
I get my hardware from a variety of sources, depending on what I'm looking for/need, but some of the sources are Scale Hardware, Micro Fasteners, Rb Motion, Model Motorcars, etc. The brass nuts, bolts came from Micro Fasteners, I believe.
The body question is a good one and one I did give alot of thought to, but it won't be too much of an issue because the only dimensions that are in question are really the A,B and C pillars and the roof, which I can lay-up a little thicker to maintain the frame dimensions. The rest of the mountint points are bracket type which can be "cheated" to maintain the correct dimensions. We'll see as that part of the build unfolds....

Thanks for the interest,

BM1

bmwmech1
01-06-2009, 10:00 AM
Fantastic work so far! I understand why you are trying to remake as much as possible, the Pocher fits are terrible and sometimes the parts are so unrepresentative...I have spent ages just on the Testarossa engine and don't seem to make any progress.

Would love to hear more on some of your techniques and materials, especially the painted effects you have already achieved on the engine. Also where do you source your brass bolts from?

Question regarding casting the body from the Pocher white metal body and then laying up in fibreglass.....Surely, your tubular body chassis will then be the wrong size if you then have the proper thickness??.....hope you can work that one out (no doubting you will looking at your skills).

Good luck

Yes, the newer Pocher kits leave alot to be desired, but that is my motivation, right?
I'll try to answer your questions individually...the paint/textures on everything are derived from what the real parts look/feel like. Is it a smooth finish, machined finish, rough finish, etc? Then what can I use to replicate the finish... I use textured primers, flat or semi-gloss topcoats and even craft buffing paints like gold leaf or real silver for weathering effects to simulate real metal. Plus, all of the standard lacquers like Metalizer and Alclad to achieve the "right looking" finish. The engine has not been fully weathered yet, so it should look even more realistic when complete.
I get my hardware from a variety of sources, depending on what I'm looking for/need, but some of the sources are Scale Hardware, Micro Fasteners, Rb Motion, Model Motorcars, etc. The brass nuts, bolts came from Micro Fasteners, I believe.
The body question is a good one and one I did give alot of thought to, but it won't be too much of an issue because the only dimensions that are in question are really the A,B and C pillars and the roof, which I can lay-up a little thicker to maintain the frame dimensions. The rest of the mounting points are bracket type which can be "cheated" to maintain the correct dimensions. We'll see as that part of the build unfolds....

Thanks for the interest,

BM1

jano11
01-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Very interesting project.
I'm looking forward seeing it evolve! :)

chola
01-06-2009, 09:45 PM
Very very cool!!!!!!

Keep this one going for sure please.

Just a heads up before you make too much progress though, the decal on the oil filter is incorrect (is a window tint one).

Also, what size were the acorn nuts you have on the heads? I'd like to get some for my own F40.

Keep up the great work and progress, be watching very closely.

bmwmech1
01-06-2009, 09:57 PM
Very very cool!!!!!!

Keep this one going for sure please.

Just a heads up before you make too much progress though, the decal on the oil filter is incorrect (is a window tint one).

Also, what size were the acorn nuts you have on the heads? I'd like to get some for my own F40.

Keep up the great work and progress, be watching very closely.

I knew the decal was not correct... it is actually the DOT decal for the windows which is why I put it on backwards, so you can't read it. Didn't happen to have a Mahle decal and the filter ends up buried under all the intake/turbo plumbing, so it's only an issue in the photos. Thanks for pointing that out, though. Sharp eye...:grinyes: The acorn nuts are from Marvin at www.modelmotorcars.com and they are part # A007. They're $1 a piece and I ordered 50 to do the cam covers and the intake plenum bolts, with a few left over. Hope that helps... Thanks for looking!!!


BM1

bmwmech1
01-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Sorry, not much to post... Have had some family health issues recently and it has taken it's toll on me both physically and mentally. Have not had the energy to sit down at the workbench this week. My 1 year old is just getting over a devastating stomach virus and my father is scheduled for open-heart surgery next week, so things are looking a little brighter. I may fab some suspension brackets tonight or tomorrow, so I'll post photos when I do... I keep watching the other threads, though... lots of cool stuff going on. Thanks for looking!!!

BM1

chola
01-08-2009, 12:40 AM
BM1,

Mate, not good to hear about your baby and your dad. Hope it all goes well. Love to see more on the build, but do what you can when you can, family comes first.

bmwmech1
01-12-2009, 06:24 PM
Okay, first the family update... baby is over the stomach virus, dad goes in for bypass surgery on Wednesday... I have now contracted the stomach virus and spent yesterday and today in bed... horrible virus, lots of muscle pain and the associated unpleasantries that go with it...yuck!:frown: If the baby had what I have, she is a trooper, because I have been miserable. Just spent a few minutes in the shop and whipped up the 4 front upper suspension mounts, so I thought I'd post them before they get attached... Enjoy!:)

BM1
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1929.jpg

bmwmech1
01-12-2009, 10:18 PM
Okay, final update before I turn in for the night... As they call them in the Adult Entertainment Industry, these are the "money" shots. This is where you find out how good your measurements are... I'll let you all decide... Enjoy!

BM1
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1936.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1934.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1933.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1932.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1931.jpg
And a teaser of the next project waiting in the wings... Full-on GT2 conversion, just as insane as the F40...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1935.jpg

SkylineFan
01-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Insane work!!!!

DaveT

bmwmech1
01-12-2009, 10:54 PM
Thanks... alot done, but still a long way to go. At least I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel...:screwy:

BM1

sportracer02
01-13-2009, 12:27 AM
WOW, great job so far !!!!

chola
01-13-2009, 03:07 PM
Stunning......totally stunning...great work!

Can you post some pics of the techniques you are using to fabricate some parts (Eg: the suspension mounts etc)?

Thanks.

bmwmech1
01-13-2009, 09:29 PM
Hello all, wanted to post a few more photos for today... had a free day from work today, since I am still recovering from the stomach flu, but I didn't get as far along as I had hoped...:crying: I did get the rest of the front suspension mounts done, the lower frame completed, made some more accurate changes to the base of the winsheild area, including the support bracket and almost got the footwell area closed in. I took 3 quick shots, but the work hasn't been cleaned up yet, so please excuse the mess.:smile: Enjoy...

BM1

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1940.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1941.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1942.jpg

I'll try to get the rest finished and cleaned up before the end of the week... we'll see, since I'm now backlogged at work. Thanks for looking!!!

bmwmech1
01-13-2009, 09:34 PM
Stunning......totally stunning...great work!

Can you post some pics of the techniques you are using to fabricate some parts (Eg: the suspension mounts etc)?

Thanks.
I still have the whole rear-end to do, so I'll post some pics of the layout work I do for some of the detail parts when I start on the rear. It's very time consuming to make each part and I hate doing one over if I mess it up, so I try to figure out all the requirements before I start to make each part. That's what takes the most time... just like doing machine work. It's not the actual machining, it's the thinking about how to machine it that takes the time...:banghead:

BM1

F1Tommy
01-15-2009, 07:10 AM
Very nice work!! You should have just built a real 1/1 F40!

Keep updating.


Best,

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2009 model contest and photography/art display-Chicago April 25th 2009 at Continental Autosport
Ferrari/Maserati

bmwmech1
01-15-2009, 07:19 AM
Very nice work!! You should have just built a real 1/1 F40!

Keep updating.


Best,

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2009 model contest and photography/art display-Chicago April 25th 2009 at Continental Autosport
Ferrari/Maserati

That's funny... that's exactly what my father-in-law said. With all the research material I have, I probably could...hmmm...:grinyes:

Thanks,

BM1

chola
01-15-2009, 08:18 PM
Already been done....

http://www.f40.co.nz/f40/Car.aspx

And has greater performance than a genuine F40!!!! That Lexus V8 engine is a real gem, especially with twin turbo's added.

Anyway, love the progress, keep it coming.

bmwmech1
01-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Already been done....

http://www.f40.co.nz/f40/Car.aspx

And has greater performance than a genuine F40!!!! That Lexus V8 engine is a real gem, especially with twin turbo's added.

Anyway, love the progress, keep it coming.

I have that site bookmarked for reference... If I built a 1:1, it would be a little more "true" to the Ferrari origins. That one is cool, but there are some differences that I don't care for. The Lexus motor is not one of the differences, though. I'll bet it screams! Thanks, maybe a photo or two to post tonight, yet...

BM1

bmwmech1
01-15-2009, 09:51 PM
Okay, not much building progress tonight, but I had alot of mods to do to the body. Mind you, all who hold the Pocher K55 F40 kits sacred... these photos are not for the faint of heart... you'll see what I mean...

First is the removal of the kit dash support/windshield mount...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1946.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1945.jpg

Next, we have the removal of the kit rear rollcage tubes and top frame rails...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1947.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1948.jpg

Next, the removal of the kit under roof detail, A pillar thickness and also B pillar rollcage detail, all of which was cast into the body...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1949.jpg
And finally, some shots of the "hacked up" body on the frame. Note how the windshield frame now sits right on the bracket which extends up from the dash crossmember...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1952.jpg
Also, you can see the pedal mount sitting on its "box"...maybe a little easier to identify its placement in the photo above...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1951.jpg
And the rear, now without the kit parts attached anymore...
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/100_1953.jpg

Thanks for looking!!!:)

BM1

mrawl
01-16-2009, 03:08 AM
Maybe not for the faint of heart, but damn that looks like fun!

F1Tommy
01-16-2009, 06:33 AM
Already been done....

http://www.f40.co.nz/f40/Car.aspx

And has greater performance than a genuine F40!!!! That Lexus V8 engine is a real gem, especially with twin turbo's added.

Anyway, love the progress, keep it coming.


The Ferrari F40 is one litre less and in competition form still puts out 100 more Horsepower than the competition tuned Toyota/Lexus engine. Dont compare a Japanese car motor to a Ferrari motor. I suppose you could turn the boost up on the Toyota motor until it had more horspower and then blew up.

TT

bmwmech1
01-16-2009, 06:40 AM
Maybe not for the faint of heart, but damn that looks like fun!
Yeah, it's fun... but progress is slow. I have to plan 10 steps ahead and figure out what can fabricated, what can be modified, how to replace what i remove, etc. It's like building the real thing at times. :screwy:Thankfully I have a large amount of reference to help me out. More this weekend!

Thanks for looking!!!

BM1

bmwmech1
01-16-2009, 06:41 AM
The Ferrari F40 is one litre less and in competition form still puts out 100 more Horsepower than the competition tuned Toyota/Lexus engine. Dont compare a Japanese car motor to a Ferrari motor. I suppose you could turn the boost up on the Toyota motor until it had more horspower and then blew up.

TT

Well said, sir...:smile:

BM1

Robi J
01-16-2009, 09:11 AM
Incredible craftmanship, Sir !!!

Robi :)

bmwmech1
01-16-2009, 12:31 PM
Incredible craftmanship, Sir !!!

Robi :)

Thanks, Robi! Stay tuned, more to come!!!:popcorn:

BM1

gionc
01-17-2009, 04:57 AM
It's not happens so often.... a newbee and he's a master.

I'm impressed by the brass frame. I'm honest, I'm busy and I didn't read any word in the thread, just some of your writing and images. May you explain how you cut so well the brass plate? I'm used to work with etched metal but I have serious troubles to cut metal plates.

I'm tuned, this is one of those cool thread where you can't wait for next updates! Bravo!

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