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Brakes not working, sounds like air coming from rear left sidePlease_Help_Me 11-25-2008, 11:19 PM I just got my car inspected.... lets not get into all that... i had just picked up my car, had it back for about 15 minutes, the time it took to get home. i get home and in the drive way, i have my brakes on and my floor goes all the way to the floor!!!!!!!!!!!! so im like WTF and i drove around the block, it was hard to stop and brake kept going all the way to the floor. so i stopped a couple times and turned off my car to pump the brakes, the first time it did what it was suppose to, the other times it kept going all the way to the floor with the whooshing sound every time i put the brakes on. IM SO ANGRY!!!!! so i had to get my car towed back to the stupid place. the guy says its probably the wheel cylinder. what do you guys think? and is this somethin that is their fault seein how they JUST inspected my car???? or is it a coincidence?? please get back to me ASAP!!! The_Mechanic_33 11-25-2008, 11:41 PM wheel cylinders on that car are prone to freezig in the bore and leaking.so you probebly ad n issue with them.but as i see it maby during their brake inspection they caused the shoes to be misaligned with the cylinder groove and now u have a poped pistonor leak. shorod 11-26-2008, 07:48 AM Or it could be that during the inspection, they aggressively tested the brakes, which worked fine at the time, but weakened the next weak point to the point where it failed for you. I would not consider this scenario in any way their fault. What you should consider if calmly asking them to call you with an estimate prior to performing any repair. If their findings seem reasonable, ask them to save the parts that they replace. If they find a damaged wheel cylinder that shows damage to one of the pistons (where they slide over the shoe, "cylinder groove" that Mechanic above describes), again I'm not sure you could necessarily fault the shop for this, at least not out of negligence. If your drums have a lip of rust on them, they may have needed to get pretty aggressive getting the drum off. This process could have stressed the piston to the point where it was weakened and when you used the brakes, it broke and you have what The Mechanic 33 describes. If that's the case, I'd think that they maybe could be convinced to pay the labor to replace the wheel cylinder and brake shoes (shoes contaminated with brake fluid need to be replaced) and bleed the brakes. I say this because there are time-consuming methods to reduce the risk of this damage when taking drums off, such as spinning the self adjuster all the way down prior to removing the drum. But this process is no where near as easy as it looks in type. Plus, they then would need to adjust the self adjuster again once the drums are reinstalled. Ultimately, don't go in to the shop all hyper and loud as that will likely destroy any chances you have of getting the shop to work with you in the event they accelerated a part failure, and it would likely burn a bridge with a shop that maybe a very honest and trustworthy. Not everyone is out there to take advantage of you. Keep in mind that EVERYONE makes mistakes. -Rod Please_Help_Me 11-26-2008, 08:36 AM Or it could be that during the inspection, they aggressively tested the brakes, which worked fine at the time, but weakened the next weak point to the point where it failed for you. I would not consider this scenario in any way their fault. What you should consider if calmly asking them to call you with an estimate prior to performing any repair. If their findings seem reasonable, ask them to save the parts that they replace. If they find a damaged wheel cylinder that shows damage to one of the pistons (where they slide over the shoe, "cylinder groove" that Mechanic above describes), again I'm not sure you could necessarily fault the shop for this, at least not out of negligence. If your drums have a lip of rust on them, they may have needed to get pretty aggressive getting the drum off. This process could have stressed the piston to the point where it was weakened and when you used the brakes, it broke and you have what The Mechanic 33 describes. If that's the case, I'd think that they maybe could be convinced to pay the labor to replace the wheel cylinder and brake shoes (shoes contaminated with brake fluid need to be replaced) and bleed the brakes. I say this because there are time-consuming methods to reduce the risk of this damage when taking drums off, such as spinning the self adjuster all the way down prior to removing the drum. But this process is no where near as easy as it looks in type. Plus, they then would need to adjust the self adjuster again once the drums are reinstalled. Ultimately, don't go in to the shop all hyper and loud as that will likely destroy any chances you have of getting the shop to work with you in the event they accelerated a part failure, and it would likely burn a bridge with a shop that maybe a very honest and trustworthy. Not everyone is out there to take advantage of you. Keep in mind that EVERYONE makes mistakes. -Rod Thank you, you two... Rod, see this is the thing, its a family friend and thats why i DONT want to think the worst. but being a female and gettin played so many times by garages i cant help but think the worst. a few months back i go to this place to get new tires. they call me to tell i need ALL NEW tie rods, inner, outer, front and back. So i told them to just put on the tires. Come to find out later... its just the front and they will tighten them for me out of the kindess of their heart. Now when my car just got inspected they said its on the inner on the front starting to wear. I'll just say im glad i didnt go with what the original garage said because i wouldve been out $1,000 that day. I did call my guy right after it happened and i did let him know i was very angry about the whole situation but i would never go in there causing a scene, but i do express my opinions, theres no need to hold things back when we're all adults. So he told me to drive it there so he can look at it first thing in the morning but have someone follow me... well i had it towed instead. So now i wait to see what the damage is. And i will make sure to ask him about the brakes, seein how they are NEW. I just got new tires and brakes a few months before the inspection. So that will make me very angry if i have to pay for new brakes, well on the left side. Again thank you, we'll see what happens today. rhandwor 11-26-2008, 08:48 AM If you don't want to pay you are permitted to go to a parts store and buy a new set of pads and a new wheel cylinders and maybe a rebuilt master cylinder also,they can turn the drums if needed. This would be a lot cheaper. Remember you have to bleed the system when you are done. Please_Help_Me 11-26-2008, 10:16 AM If you don't want to pay you are permitted to go to a parts store and buy a new set of pads and a new wheel cylinders and maybe a rebuilt master cylinder also,they can turn the drums if needed. This would be a lot cheaper. Remember you have to bleed the system when you are done. I had it towed back to the garage last night after this all happened. he told me a towing company to use and that he'll add the tow fee to my bill. Im still waitin for him to call me back to talk to me about it. The whole point of me havin it towed last night was so they could look at it first thing this morning. shorod 11-26-2008, 01:51 PM Please keep us in the loop on what they find. We may be able to offer some suggestions. Be sure though that you accurately repeat here what you are being told by the shop to the best of your abilities. -Rod vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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