AMG Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II Debis - FUJIMI

Unbelievable, it's raining again, three weekends in a row, I can't start the clear cote to mercedes Promarkt Zakspeed, so I decided to begin another project.

AMG Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II Debis - FUJIMI
This is my first Fujimi kit, sorry people from Fujimi but this kit is awful.
The box is beautiful, isn't? Ok, just the box... let's go
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis1.jpg
Decal sheet in excellent shape. I will use this to enhance the kit
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis6.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis7.jpg
I scribed the panel lines and fit test.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis2.jpg
I will change the regular black seat for the race one
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis5.jpg
Preparing the ugly floor for the new seat
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chasis2.jpg
The control panel have marks and it is not smooth, putty and sand.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/console-1.jpg
This two pieces are unbelievable inaccurate, weird, bizarre, what else? On the left we have a radiator, one hubcap, cables (they can stand there when the piece is glued in place). On the right we have a lot of things and, believe or nor, one wiper (what?)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior.jpg
Lets remove everything, next victim the radiator... :evillol:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior3.jpg
This is suppose to be the exhaust, can you believe it?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/escape.jpg
Chrome stripped from the rims
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/rodas.jpg
The dashboard is pretty good
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/painel.jpg
The Mercedes logo was sanded, the real car has a decal.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Debis8.jpg

Help me on this... :crying:

I hear ya on these Fujimi kits! :shakehead I built the Mercedes 190e also but it had the decals promoting the 2000 Olympic games for Berlin and that kit was the same with a standard car seat etc.
I'm also a big DTM fan with a couple of Opel Calibra's(UT Models which are out of production now) waiting in the works...can't wait to get started on them.
I look forward to seeing the end result from this kit and also your Promarkt-Zakspeed kit.:grinno:

Woohoo. Another DTM WIP from you.
And it seems you're taking on quite a challenge. Only experience I got with Fujimi is their more recent (first release) Ferrari F430. And that one is pretty decent.
But I've already read in other threads that their BMW and Mercedes DTM kits are pretty crap...

But judging by the work you've already done on the ProMarkt Merc, I have no doubts that you'll pull this one off very nicely.

Too bad about the weather over there. Just to rub a bit salt into that wound, we have nothing but great weather here in the Netherlands (for a change)...

Good luck with this one. I'll be following your progress closely !

i cannot agree with you more, soon you will realise if you build standard stock car kits that alot of Fujimi chassis for the cars are the same... i was trying to quick build some jap cars FC rx7, old supra and old starion... all their chassis, interior are exactly the same with the poorest detail and fit ever! so they turned from WIP to RIP :P

I also made a Fujimi DTM car:

http://www.m-tuning.nl/gallery/content/Completed%20Models/Mercedes%20C-Class%20DTM%20D2%201994/IMG_2555.jpg

The decals were pretty nice to work with.
But the body shape isn't correct and the interior is rubbish (same as yours)

But this model has only cost me about 10 euro's including paints, and is pretty nice for that price.

gasdriverca - wow, those UT models are very difficult to find it, isn't? I heard they are very well done. Hope to see it here soon.

DerXL - actually is a lot of challenge here and there.The Promarket is my first kit since 80's and this is the second one. Today is totally sunny day hope to get a free time to clear cote the yellow Mercedes. Thank you!

astonut - "so they turned from WIP to RIP"... :rofl: don't give up!

M-Tuning - I agree, it is pretty nice for that price. Mine wasn't expensive too. Can I have some WIP pictures? I would like to see the cockpit pictures. thank you!

Here some progress, first I trashed this piece, it is useless...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/lixo.jpg
Working on this part
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior4.jpg
Need to make the steering wheel beam
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/volante.jpg
almost done and ready to primer
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/aerofolio2.jpg
to divert attention I am going to use this driver
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/piloto.jpg

Thank you all

Tha kit you have there is the car Michael Schumacher also drove,i think he only done three races in that car then he went to F1 and the rest is history.Do you have Schumi's name there on the decal sheet?
And for the UT models I fought hard for them on e-bay but i have the two Calibra's(bye bye KeKe,Hasseroder) but i am savouring them just now and looking for interior detail but you building these Mercedes kits are inspiring me,keep it up.

i have a lot of old fujimi kits. yes, the chassis is horrible for its the generic fujimi motorized chassis that they are using. i have the non DTM version of this car. :lol:

gasdriverca The Zakspeed Mercedes team was 18-Giroix, 19-Asch, 20-Schummacher and 88-Schneider, but the decal sheet is only for Asch.
Hope you start the UT Models, I never saw one finished yet. :grinyes:

evil_hanzel I had no ideia of the quality until open the box, I will finish the best I can.

Hi AAlmeida. Your 190E looks good so far. I have 2 of those and I don't know when I'm gonna star to work with them. I found a short video that might help you a little bit........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTVV_cZwB4&feature=related


Good luck and keep posting your progress.

SCORPIONFB Video downloaded... :grinyes: now I am awaiting to arrive the styrene sheet I bought to detail the internal floor of the car... more to come soon. Thank you!

Hi AAlmeida,i have a picture of the 190e interior for you if you want,here it is
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa48/gasdriverca/Mercedes190einterior.jpg

gasdriverca I have this one, thank you anyway and also these following pictures, but I am a little confuse about the year of the pictures, this one is pretty much 91
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/Evo_II_DTM-1.jpg
and these are from 92
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/int92-1.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/int92-2.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/int92.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/int92-3.jpg

:confused:

AAlmeida, you have a very nice pic. references......Where did you find them?.....

AAlmeida, you have a very nice pic. references......Where did you find them?.....

Tourenwagen Story '91 and '92 books and internet research.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa48/gasdriverca/Mercedes190e.jpg
The picture I sent you is from the 1989 season. This is the car,Kurt Thiim and Klaus Ludwig were the drivers that year.

gasdriverca - The information I have Klaus Ludwig was DTM champion in 1988 and in 1989 his car had the number 1. Here is the picture I have from '89...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/007pq.jpg

and the picture I have from 92 with Sonax sponsor and car number 3.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/021pq.jpg

Hmm maybe the car picture i posted was from the '88 season then,he was partnered with Kurt Thiim who had the number 2 car that year...oh well!
I had a picture of this car in my '95 yearbook

oh yeah..shame about the weather because im looking forward to seeing some progress on your Zakspeed project,keep up the good work my friend.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/primer1.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/primer2.jpg
This is how Fujimi wants the exhaust looks like...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/escape2.jpg
I disagree, so lets working on a new exhaust
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/escape3.jpg
I will do a new floor for the car, here is the sketch
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/piso.jpg
and the back plate, hmmm, which one I use? Vote is open. :grinyes:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chapa.jpg
See you soon.

Go for the one on the right ..it looks easier to make from the plastic card(if you use that) and putty.

The one on the left looks cool!!

I go for the one on the left.

Ok, the left won. :grinyes:

Little update.
I made the template for the holes on command panel
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/painel2.jpg
and here is the final result
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/painel3.jpg
The steering wheel
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/volante3.jpg
I accomplished the logo on tires, I hold the stencil down with masking tape before spraying and it works very well.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/pneus.jpg
and... too much wear here, may be I redo...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chasis3.jpg

Thank you, any comments are welcome.

Great work!! I like detaling on central pannel!!

Oh, it is the top enemy of my BMW M3. Keep up

Very nice progress....... The command panel looks great!!!.. Keep it up!

Brat_R Thank you, a little better than the original purpose
winstonm3bmw :grinyes:
SCORPIONFB thank you!

I need "to fill" the "holes"
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior5.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior6.jpg
Both sides done
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior7.jpg
Start all over again
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chasis4.jpg
Paint done on exhaust, tomorrow I will apply the chrome.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/escape4.jpg

Thank you for all comments.

I am almost without time... little update

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/caixaParalamas2.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/caixaParalamas1.jpg

You are doing an excellent job on improving this kit. Bravo!!
:popcorn:

Korky)tt Thank you!

New picture
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chassis5.jpg

After a long inactivity due my work and contretemps here at home, I am back to the workbench attempt to finalize my two models to the end of the year. Next week I am almost in vacation, then it is time to work.

New interior, I won't use the case used in road cars that is supplied with the kit, naked look is much better... I need to sand the floor to smooth the salience.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior9.jpg

Finishing the chassis, as is racing old and used car, I made with aspect more dirty and old, I liked, accepted suggestions and comments... Alclad Steel, Chorme and Polished Aluminum, then a cover with Smoke, Black matte and Flat Earth all Tamiya.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chassis6.jpg

Close up, scratchs, dirt and dust...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chassis7.jpg

Body paint, just white, the fun begin with the decal job
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/carroceria1.jpg

Wing ready to paint...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/aerofolio3.jpg


I'm back...

glad to see your back at it again! looking good as always.

Very nice progress and welcome back:biggrin:!!!.

I like what you have done so far, looks great. How are the decals going???

gasdriverca and SCORPIONFB Thank you!

Shunter I will start the decal job very soon.

Here is what I done so far
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/discos-de-freio.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/farois.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/lanternas.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/rodas1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/silenciador2.jpg

Wow great work, your putting in alot of effort to get it to look exact, sucks that Fujimi didnt put in the same effort

really like what your doing with this. excellent scratchbuilding work too. Im sure it will end up being worth all the effort. Have fun with the body and decals!

I can't run away from my work... so, here is a little update,
Need to add some wires and hoses, put a little bottle, masked and painted with a light gray to simulate some liquid inside. The cable behind does not have any relation with the shift gear, just a cosmetic look for the ugly Fujimi kit.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/interior10.jpg
Paint job is done and the fun will begin... decal job.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/carroceria3.jpg

da_ashman and SeanyG - Thank you all for the comments.

Very nice progress....I like so much your w.i.p.

SCORPIONFB Thank you and here we go...

One side, front and rear done, I shall leave to dry well and tomorrow I will finish the other side.
The decal are old and difficult to work with, I had lost a bit on hood but I will try paint after ready.
In the manual says the color is a mix of H45 + H25 (8:1), but does not says which colors are, very nice Fujimi!
As soon as I figure out those colors I will try to retouch.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/decalques1.jpg

I like it ,I like it....and thet green looks like an emerald green but who makes the closest color to it?your guess is as good as mine.

The colours you mentioned (H25 and H45) are Gunze (actually GSI Creos) Mr. Hobby colours. Acrylic colours at that.
Here's the Mr. Hobby site:
http://www.mr-hobby.com/cgi/goods.cgi?category=2

However, I wonder wether H25 and H45 are the correct colours as they are blue shades. H26 and H46 do resemble the colour of the decals on your AMG, so that would be my best bet.

Maybe you can find alternatives for the Gunze colours here:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_gunze.htm

Great build by the way.
Always looking forward to one of your updates. I just love you builds -> subject and execution.

I like it ,I like it....and thet green looks like an emerald green but who makes the closest color to it?your guess is as good as mine.

Thank you, thank you... :smile: I think you are right about the color.

The colours you mentioned (H25 and H45) are Gunze (actually GSI Creos) Mr. Hobby colours. Acrylic colours at that.
Here's the Mr. Hobby site:
http://www.mr-hobby.com/cgi/goods.cgi?category=2

However, I wonder wether H25 and H45 are the correct colours as they are blue shades. H26 and H46 do resemble the colour of the decals on your AMG, so that would be my best bet.

Maybe you can find alternatives for the Gunze colours here:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_gunze.htm

Great build by the way.
Always looking forward to one of your updates. I just love you builds -> subject and execution.

I totally agree, those colors are wrong. How mixing shades of blue can turns on emerald green? I can not trust on this specific manual. H26 + H46 looks promising to me, thank you.

Clear coat done.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/verniz2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/verniz1.jpg

Now THAT is some nice shine !

Great work ! I did the black&silver one some time ago and that kit is total crap !

But you´re doing it complete justice !

// Rickard

Now THAT is some nice shine !
Great work ! I did the black&silver one some time ago and that kit is total crap !
But you´re doing it complete justice !
// Rickard

Thank you Rickard!

After the dry fit I understand that the height was not good, then I was obliged to redo and increase the height. The blue arrow shows the previous height.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/caixaderoda.jpg

I believe the wash and dry brush is done here.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chassis9.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/chassis8.jpg

Small update, lot of things to do lately, so here I go again...

The right piece is provided by kit, the left was made with rods of styrene. Not finished yet.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/gaiola.jpg
This is made from styrene and intent to simulate some doors structure, no reference was used, just to simulate. Probably I will use some cables or something behind it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/portas.jpg
Thank you for looking.

Almeida

I missed this thread. Wow, what a fine scratchbuilding !!!

R :)

looks good. good guessing on the bare door simulation. makes it look as if it were stripped for weight purposes.

I like so much this thread. keep it up!!.

I miss this x2... and what happened to your C-class?! I miss that even more!!!

Robi J - coming from you is more than a compliment.

rollin80s - that is the idea.

SCORPIONFB - I will, I will... :iceslolan

astonut - The C-class is waiting the turn, back to it soon.

Thank you all for the comments. :naughty:

Get back at it buddy.....

Get back at it buddy.....

I'm trying... :iceslolan

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/gaiola2.jpg

Hmmmm, nice straps and lovely tiny electronic box :iceslolan

Robi

Did you or have you touched up the color on the hood you talked about earlier in this forum?
Did you find a good color match? and don't forget the cross bars on the roll cage!http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa48/gasdriverca/rollcage.jpg
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/C:%5CDocuments%20and%20Settings%5CAdministrator%5C My%20Documents%5CMy%20Pictures

Did you or have you touched up the color on the hood you talked about earlier in this forum?
Did you find a good color match? and don't forget the cross bars on the roll cage!

No I didn't, the following picture was retouched
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/gradecromada2.jpg

Interior with cables will be painted. Dry fit just to show the whole. I am working on the cross bar.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/aalmeida/cabos2.jpg

Thank you for comment.

I have a video from youtube showing where the seatbelt straps go,they go on top of the back sill but it's looking good keep it up.You know what i can't seem to find it now but anyway,Bernd Schneider is in the Sonax car and hits the side of a BMW then the camera pans around to see the damage,thats when you see where the seatbelts attach(if you didn't know) I'll keep looking for this video.

upon further inspection of my picture of you picture I think I should've put the crossbars the other way....my bad!