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Spark Plug Changing


Scott 02
03-11-2003, 06:48 PM
Anyone have experience with changing the spark plugs and spark plug wires on 97+ Grand Prix? I heard in order to get to the back spark plugs you must loosen the motor mount bolts and let the motor roll forward.

tman
04-11-2003, 11:12 PM
No, its just a little tight to reach the back 3 plugs, but it can be done.

Scott 02
04-13-2003, 06:22 AM
Thanks, Im thinking of changing the plugs and wires this summer.

tman
04-13-2003, 11:21 AM
I certanily hope your using AC Delco parts.

Scott 02
04-14-2003, 01:51 PM
Why? Will I be looking into changing alot of other things if I use an off brand like Accel.......

tman
04-14-2003, 07:31 PM
I was raised with GM, and AC Delco, and I am very skeptical of any non-delco parts. Myself, I would stick to Delco, but its your car, and Accel must be a decent company, so I say go for it if you like, I'm just very, very, biased, I guess.

Blue02R6
05-16-2003, 12:30 AM
Just don't get those Boush? plugs. They don't play well in American ignitions. Champion, AC Delco, I've never used Accel though... could be alright.

'00 GTP
05-20-2003, 01:08 PM
A Mechanic friend of mine looked at my GTP, and told me that I needed the plugs and wires changed. and he specifically told me to use AC Delco parts on the Grand Prix. He said that Poniacs handel AC Delco parts alot better than other parts.

'00 GTP

gtp 2000
05-20-2003, 05:36 PM
the plugs are had to get at and yes you must loosen the motor mounts.
it is a big pain, better to leave it to a mechanic

mike

Flatrater
05-20-2003, 09:56 PM
I have changed many plugs and wires on these cars yes you can do it no problem, and yes it is alittle easier if you move the engine forward. As for Delco plugs and wires all I got to say is that the computers were designed with these plugs and wires and the engine runs better using what GM called out for. You can put in what you like but its at your own risk!

AgentOrange98gp
06-01-2003, 08:04 PM
I used Delco Plugs (41-932) with MSD wires. Worked wonders for me.

Scott 02
06-03-2003, 03:11 PM
I used Delco Plugs (41-932) with MSD wires. Worked wonders for me.
What is the name of that parts store you got the wires from?

tman
06-03-2003, 03:17 PM
Check MSD's Website, i assume that its http://www.msd.com look for a dealer locater, im guessing advance or autozone.

Edit1- thats not MSD's Website, hold up, ill find it

Edit2- http://www.msdignition.com

Edit3- when the page loads, a the top, find automotive dealers, click it, then click which state you live in, and there are your dealers.

Scott 02
06-03-2003, 04:38 PM
thanks tman2093.

tman
06-03-2003, 05:18 PM
No problem, just doing what I can, besides, the Buick forums are all but dead.

AgentOrange98gp
06-03-2003, 11:20 PM
I got the wires from www.jegs.com and the plugs from pep boys

Scott 02
06-04-2003, 09:54 PM
Really from Jegs? I may have to stop in this week, since the main Jegs store is only 30 miles from were i live.

scrubin63125
06-11-2003, 11:27 PM
Jegs is the cheapest place I have found for MSD Wires and I have done hella research.

I only somewhat agree with the ac-delco parts they are good until you start modding your car as soon as I did exhaust and a CAI I all of the sudden had a misfire. I replaced the plugs and wires with ac-delco and I also replaced the ignition coils, still misfired. Put on MSD wires and NGK TR6's plugs and it fixed the problem. It may have been a freak thing but it worked wonders for me and I will never use ac-delco again.

Scott 02
06-12-2003, 10:28 AM
can anyone tell me the Part # on the MSD wires and the cost.

tman
06-12-2003, 10:58 AM
Scott- A quick look at the website I posted earlier, showed me tis part number: 32789

Go to the website, and:
Click automotive/spark plug wires/pontiac/3.8SC V6

I have no clue on cost, I just bought some delco wires for "Bad Blue" and they were about $35.00, so I imagine MSD's to be $35- $40 for a complete set.

Scott 02
06-12-2003, 02:38 PM
thanks again tman.

tman
06-12-2003, 02:43 PM
No problem man.

scrubin63125
06-12-2003, 10:56 PM
I paid 63.98 for MSD's from jegs that includes the handling charge and the shipping is free.

Scott 02
06-12-2003, 10:57 PM
how long did installation take?

tman
06-12-2003, 10:59 PM
I'm gonna be installing some spark plugs and wires on my car this weekend, I'll tell you how long it takes me.

scrubin63125
06-12-2003, 11:02 PM
well I undid my front motor mounts and put a jack with a small board on it under my oil pan and tilted the motor forward, sounds 10x harder than it is. From hood open to hood closed I would say it was under 30min.

Scott 02
06-13-2003, 08:31 AM
yeah, i was told to rool the motor forward. So all you need to do is loosen the motor mounts in the front and the motor will rool forward then? I have never had the mounts loose on my GP yet.

scrubin63125
06-16-2003, 03:54 PM
it wont just roll foreward you have two options, park downhill undo the front mounts and put the car in gear and let it roll foreward or you could undo the mounts and put a floor jack under the oil pan and jack it up, it will tilt foreward but be sure to put a board bettween the jack and the pan or you may have a mess.

Flatrater
06-16-2003, 09:53 PM
Put the parking brake on then put the car in neutral, the engine will roll forward easy. If you want tie a rope around the mount eyelet and pull the engine forward tying the rope on the frame.

Scott 02
06-16-2003, 10:07 PM
i'll take everyones advice. thanks all:bigthumb:

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
07-21-2004, 12:13 PM
the plugs are had to get at and yes you must loosen the motor mounts.
it is a big pain, better to leave it to a mechanic

mike

Another post like that and you'll be taking a week long vacation.

-tman2093

tman
07-21-2004, 12:27 PM
As for changing them, it's tight, but you dont "NEED" to move the engine mounts unless you cant get your arm down there.

kustomkid54
07-21-2004, 07:01 PM
Just put plugs in my GTP. You'll learn some "new words", but you DON'T have to losen anything. But they are fun. Delco is what I use. Is there anything else?

Ripn12s
07-21-2004, 08:00 PM
Autolite

Plug number 6 is the hardest becuase of that damn o2 sensor.

rockford0384
07-22-2004, 12:50 AM
can say the same here, I got the scar to prove it (zip tie got me) AUTOLITE all the way

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