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code reader for 95 Lesabre


Richard S
07-06-2008, 09:42 PM
Does anyone know of a code reader or reasonable priced scanner that will read a 95 lesabre? 3.8 liter. I have tried several and they won't link. I took it to a shop last year and they used a tech 2 on it. Hope I don't have to do this again. It is the crossover year form obd1 to obd2. It has obd2 plug. I'm getting check engine light, my daughter put ethynol gas in it don't know if that will kick the light or not. Thanks in advance.

HotZ28
07-07-2008, 03:01 AM
You can get some good deals on Actron CP9150 that comes complete with all the cables & carrying case; Click Here (http://etooldirect.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5&gclid=CNLhj6OirZQCFQGbnAodw3XdBA) or you can buy only the CP9145 with the additional OBD1 cable: Click Here (http://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9145-AutoScanner-Diagnostic-Capability/dp/B00020BM2S/ref=pd_bxgy_auto_text_b/002-2024844-9480011) & Here (http://www.amazon.com/Actron-CP9127-AutoScanner-ALDL-Cable/dp/B0006V2BPU/ref=acc_glance_auto_ai_534_1_tit/002-2024844-9480011). Both will work on the 94-95. Of course other brands are available, usually at a higher price.:grinno:

Richard S
07-09-2008, 07:26 PM
Maybe I need to state my question a different way. Has anyone successfully got a code out of a 95 Buick Lesabre and used a low end tool. If so what one was used, I'm not saying the one suggested won't work because I have not tried it but would like to be sure before I go out and purchase another one. It does not have obdI. I have an obdII scanner but it will not link. I took it to Pep Boys and they tried the Actron and the Code scout on it and they would not link either. They told me I had a computer problem, but I know a tech 2 will read it. I had this same situation last year. Thanks

C man
07-09-2008, 09:36 PM
U have OBD 1.5 so there is no cheap route. I hate going to the stealership for a "idiot" light. $110 for a five minute scan tool hook up. But my check engine light on came on twice since I had my car. The first time my car was stumbling which was due to a clogged EGR valve which was due to a bad coil. They told me I needed a new EGR valve. I changed the coil pack, $20, and the problem went away that night. so i felt like a :loser: The second time I knew it was a "lazy oxygen sensor so I just changed it and it hasn't come back on since. I would just pay the extra money and get the scan tool. Why go to the stealership so the can rape u. When I save up the money I'm going to get me one.

Richard S
07-10-2008, 09:06 PM
Thanks for your help. Hot z 28 thanks for the web site. I was hesitant about spending money on another scanner I wasn't sure would read. I had tried several that said they would read the 95 and they didn't. I called Actron corp today and they told me how to read it. The cp9150 is no longer available through them but the new one is cp9190. Etool still had some but I decided to go with the new one.

Thanks to c man also I didn't really know what I had. I knew it wasn't obdI and knew it wasn't full fledge obdII.

I'll let you know when I get the tool and how it works.

Thanks

Richard S
07-16-2008, 10:55 AM
I got the tool and it works. I found that I have a TPS problem and I havn't figured it out yet, but I know where to start now. Thanks again.

C man
07-16-2008, 02:24 PM
How much did the scanner cost u. And does it do live data reads with OBD 1.5 just interested because I'm considering saving for a scan tool.

HotZ28
07-16-2008, 02:57 PM
And does it do live data reads with OBD 1.5 just interested because I'm considering saving for a scan tool.
If you click on the Links in my previous post, you will see the following; (This is for the CP9150)
Click Here (http://etooldirect.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1837)for info on the CP9190
The SUPER AutoScanner Kit allows the user to easily retrieve and read OBD I and OBD II trouble codes and display/read live vehicle data for a faster diagnosis. This sophisticated, yet extremely user-friendly tool includes the CP9145 base unit and can be used on OBD II compliant cars and light trucks sold in the U.S. from 1996 to present. The CP9150 Kit includes additional cables to retrieve codes and live data for 1984-95 Ford and GM models and 1989-95 Chrysler applications.

Features:

Read & erase generic OBD II trouble codes stored in the PCM (including pending codes) - DTC Lookup Services for further help

Read & erase GM/Ford/Chrysler OBD II manufacturer-specific codes stored in the PCM

Read & erase OBD I GM/Ford/Chrysler trouble codes (cables included with this kit)

Enables user to easily and quickly link to their vehicle.

Large easy-to-read LCD screen that provides Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) and their definitions.

Turn off Check Engine Light (Malfunction Indicator Lamp or MIL)
Extremely user friendly menu provides:
Monitor Status and I/M Readiness to determine if vehicle is ready for an emissions test. I/M Readiness is an excellent function to use prior to having a vehicle inspected for compliance to a state emissions program

All emission testing facilities will fail a vehicle which has the “check engine light” lit at the time of the test

Alerts user to any pending Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs), and reads Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) status

Built-in help screens
View live engine data parameters (PIDs)
View freeze frame data
Review data
Code definitions are stored in the tool

Ruggedly built for both shop and road test use
1 year warranty

Benefits:

GM and Chrysler OBD I cables included
Step up from a simple Code Scanner to a Scan Tool at an affordable price.
OBD I and OBD II software built in: no additional cartridges to buy

Internal 9 volt battery stores latest test results for later review

Kit Includes:

SUPER AutoScanner CP9145 Base Unit
OBD II Cable
GM OBD I ALDL Cable CP9127
Ford & Lincoln-Mercury OBD I EEC-IV Cable CP9128
Chrysler OBD I SCI Cable CP9129
8-Foot Extension Cable
Cigarette Lighter Adapter
Manual/CD-ROM with over 3,000 code definitions

Hard Carrying Case

HotZ28
07-16-2008, 03:05 PM
I got the tool and it works. I found that I have a TPS problem and I havn't figured it out yet, but I know where to start now. Thanks again.

Tell us what the scanner indicates, high or low voltage on the TPS, or both. In addition, you need to do the TPS voltage test with a DVM before condemning the TPS. This could be the PCM! :screwy:

Richard S
07-16-2008, 03:31 PM
The cp9190 that I got from etooldirect was 254.00 included is the obd1 and obd2 cables along with adapters for cigarette lighter, and one to connect alligator clips to battery. Hard case and two other adapter for I assume Ford and Chrysler. The cp9150 is 158.00 I think. Actron tech said the new on is cp9190 the 9150 is no longer available through them.

Hot z 28 I did use a dvm to test the TPS. I made a new post. It is reading High. The grey wire is 5 volt. The blue wire (signal) is 4 1/2 to 5 throttle closed throttle. It reads about 1 volt with throttle open. Just the reverse to what it should. Black wire shows to have good ground.

A = ground wire
B = signal wire
c = 5 volt ref. according to my wiring diagram

I also did a ohm test between B & C. Switch off. Low ohm at closed throttle and climbed to about 2.888 on the 20 ohm scale with throttle open.

I don't like to think about it but I think you are probably right about pcm. I have tried about 5 tps now thinking they may have made them wrong or faulty. Parts store didn't know either. Appreciate any further help.

C man
08-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Just bought the CP9150 kit of ebay for $148. I was under the store name Artic tools but was sold by Etools. So I got I from the same place HotZ28 suggested but for $10 cheaper. Anyway its a nice tool and my first scan tool. Wanted the CP9190 but my buget can't afford it. So I had to settle for this but I really like it.

C man
08-02-2008, 03:28 PM
I know this isn't a chevey forum but this scan tool wont communicate with a 2002 chevey astro van. Anyone know the reason why.

HotZ28
08-02-2008, 08:21 PM
Select "Global OBDII" and see what it does.

C man
08-03-2008, 07:43 PM
I did that too and it still wouldn't communicate.

HotZ28
08-03-2008, 08:45 PM
"What we have here is; failure to comunicate". If you don’t have a problem with the OBDII connector, you might want to give Actron technical assistance a call. This is not typical of an OBDII system! :shakehead

BoB393
05-05-2009, 02:50 PM
This is a great thread!
It sounds like a must have, I mean 1 visit to the stealership will pay for it.

BoB393
01-02-2010, 08:24 AM
Is the Acton CP9150 still the way to go? I'm ready to buy!

HotZ28
01-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Is the Acton CP9150 still the way to go? I'm ready to buy!Actually the CP9150 has been discontinued and now harder to find! It was replaced with the Actron CP9190 (http://www.etooldirect.com/manufacturer/actron/actron-cp9190-elite-autoscanner-pro-trilingual-obd-i-and-obd-ii.html)
(http://qualitytoolsforless.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=565)

BoB393
01-02-2010, 12:34 PM
Is the 9190 a good one, though a bit more money!

HotZ28
01-02-2010, 01:59 PM
Is the 9190 a good one, though a bit more money!Yes, it has upgraded features which includes the ability to read enhanced data, graph engine data, record and playback stored vehicle information, and to print information through a PC. All this in a tool compatible with ALL 1996 and newer vehicles (OBD II) as well as certain pre-1996 GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles. Check the specs in the link. :)

padriver
01-02-2010, 03:32 PM
I got the CP9190 for my 94 Park Ave Ultra and it really is a great tool.
Actually I have the CP9185 kit which is the same scanner but comes only with a OBD-II cable. The CP9190 kit contains additional cables for Ford, Chrysler and older GM vehicles.

I have the CP9150 as well and I can say that the new unit is a big improvement, especially when it comes to displaying live data. The bigger display shows more data at a time and it is customizable as well, meaning you can configure it to show only the data you are interested in. Plus the display has a backlight, something that I really missed with the CP9150.

I can highly recommend the CP9190 (or CP9185).

BoB393
01-02-2010, 09:07 PM
Thanks, I'll look into that one.

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