Nothing personal or anything for those of you who might own dodge neons, but is it just me or does every kid with a neon in every city have to try to race us honda owners? here in pittsburgh there are tons and tons of kids with neons and about half of them have challanged me at one point or another. is there ANYONE who might be able to slightly inform me why They do this??

cuz' they're jus as fast as civics...an the new SRT's will STOMP a bunch of imports w/ out some nice mods.

They new SRT4 is gonna put most imports to shame with out some nice mods. I think they are sub 6 sec 0-60. Not a fan of neons myself but i wouldnt mind test driving one of the SRT's.

kuz a stock neon and a stock civic are pretty damn close. its a fair race. why not try. i want an srt-4 but id also liek alotta other shit b4 that.

-GTi-VR6_A3

theyre punks, i got one over by my work who thinks hes the shit

That's funny, I guess I live on the other side of the world because here all I see ar kids with their Hondas trying...yes trying to beat V8 cars.

lol yea. Ive met a lot mroe hondas looking for a race than neons.

Why is it that when a person mentions a neon the first response is " the new SRT will spank a civic" So what. The new SRT also has a TURBO!!!! Honda doesn't make turbo charged cars so of course the new SRT will hand a Civic his ass so why are you even comparing the two??? It's like saying " The R34 Skyline GTR will kill a Civic ".......um really, I didn't know that.:rolleyes:

nonono, my point was jus that he was saying "why would ppl try to race a neon?" an so i was jus backin the neon. i kno it snot fair to compare, but still, they shouldn't go crackin on cars that ARE as fast as civics/MOST hondas.

Yah I know Neons deserve their props but it just seems like all neon owners are like " SRT SRT SRT ". If you ain't got one then STHU. Oh and yes the SRT is a bad ass 4 banger but damn that thing is ugly. Honda may not have a turbo but it has a hell of a lot more style and sex appeal.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Originally posted by B16EJ1
Yah I know Neons deserve their props but it just seems like all neon owners are like " SRT SRT SRT ". If you ain't got one then STHU. Oh and yes the SRT is a bad ass 4 banger but damn that thing is ugly. Honda may not have a turbo but it has a hell of a lot more style and sex appeal.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

:hehehe: no arguments there...

Originally posted by B16EJ1
Yah I know Neons deserve their props but it just seems like all neon owners are like " SRT SRT SRT ". If you ain't got one then STHU. Oh and yes the SRT is a bad ass 4 banger but damn that thing is ugly. Honda may not have a turbo but it has a hell of a lot more style and sex appeal.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

im on the other side. i find every honda after 4th gen to be butt ugly where as the newest neons have something original and cool about them.

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3


im on the other side. i find every honda after 4th gen to be butt ugly where as the newest neons have something original and cool about them.

-GTi-VR6_A3

That's funny. But hey everyones entitled to their opinion. I feel the same way about all VW's. You find every civic after 4th gen butt ugly and you couldn't pay me to drive a VW. Strangeworld we live in huh?:D

I wasn't trying to put down neons as a car but the kids with the mentality that makes them want to race every honda owner alive. I personally like some of the neons and respect a couple cause they're nice appearance and performance weise, but every goober who gets mommy's neon for the night runs around revving at me and it just gets annoying after a while.

im w/ u on that one too b16...IMO vw's jus aren't too stylish (cept i do like the new GTI 1.8T's). but to all their own, i understand a lot of ppl also dont 'like the high-rev'n motors of hondas an even i have to admit its pathetic havin a ratio of 170hp/128 trq...sad world. :D

I got a friend w/ the 1.8T an the hp output on that sucks ass. A turbo car that cant even break the 200 mark.....:apoke:

Originally posted by B16EJ1
I got a friend w/ the 1.8T an the hp output on that sucks ass. A turbo car that cant even break the 200 mark.....:apoke:

its barely boosting anything. tell him to chip it and you will get about a 40-50 hp boost of power.

-GTi-VR6_A3

new SRT will hand a Civic his ass so why are you even comparing the two???

Why not? A civic SI and a SRT cost the same, and are in the same market niche.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by B16EJ1
:rolleyes:

and that is for???

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by Fliquer


Why not? A civic SI and a SRT cost the same, and are in the same market niche.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by B16EJ1


:rolleyes:

i still dont get your point dude. and dont act like im stupid or some shit.

-GTi-VR6_A3

WTF are you talking about? If you don't get it then too damn bad. You take things pretty damn personal. It wasn't even meant towards you so what the hell are you babbling about?

i've noticed a lot of v-dub owners are pretty touchy...not all, but for the most part on here...A LOT are.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
WTF are you talking about? If you don't get it then too damn bad. You take things pretty damn personal. It wasn't even meant towards you so what the hell are you babbling about? '

no dude i jsut wanted to know what you mean by":rolleyes: " hahah thats all.

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
i've noticed a lot of v-dub owners are pretty touchy...not all, but for the most part on here...A LOT are.

First of all he does'nt even own a V dub and I don't know why. My dad was a big V dub man. Anyways if you must know, it was directed to Fliquer's comment. I just thought it was silly. By silly I mean, yes they are in the same market niche yet one's FI and one's NA so still no they shouldn't be compared. Boost a Si than we'll see.

whoops...my mistake...still, i stand by my statement, jus not about him.

Originally posted by B16EJ1


First of all he does'nt even own a V dub and I don't know why. My dad was a big V dub man. Anyways if you must know, it was directed to Fliquer's comment. I just thought it was silly. By silly I mean, yes they are in the same market niche yet one's FI and one's NA so still no they shouldn't be compared. Boost a Si than we'll see.

seen em they are actually pretty cool. lol some v6 stang wanted to race one hella made me laff... i would still likea cobra though.

-GTi-VR6_A3

Whats wrong with comparing forced induction to N/A? Thats like saying you shouldnt compare the NSX to the skyline GT-R, Supra Turbo, RX7 FD, or the Mitsubishi Evo. The original ITR's main competitor was the second gen Silvia K.

When you're car shopping, you dont skip over a possible vehicle just because its boosted...

(btw, I met a guy last fall who turboed his late-model SI. Told me his car got 210hp and 190lbs/ft at the wheels)

Originally posted by Fliquer

(btw, I met a guy last fall who turboed his late-model SI. Told me his car got 210hp and 190lbs/ft at the wheels)

What kind of Turbo kit was he using and how much psi was he running?But anyways that's still just 5hp less and the reason behind the major difference in torque is the large difference in displacement (2.4 - 1.6)so overall that guys turbo proved my point. That a boosted Si still puts out equal if not better #'s than the SRT.

you take a 10 sec civic and those neon peps are going to get there a$$ handed to them and second i've heard of a vw beating a v8 duster:bloated:

get a 9.5 second neon and then the civic dude will feel like an ass. what is your point. hahah. as for the vw hell anything is possible with $$$

-GTi-VR6_A3

All I remember is that his car was brand new and the turbo kit was fairly conservative. He hadnt fine tuned it yet, so if he upgraded injectors and such, he might've made 10- 20 more horses.

But still, most magazines have dynoed the SRT at 230+hp and 250lbft.

When you say "The Si still puts out equal, if not better #s than the SRT" you are referring to HP/liter and not HP/kg. Its common knowledge that hondas engines are more advanced and efficient than their competitors, but "more efficient" doesnt always mean "better".

(sorry about using such a played out arugment)

Yeah I agree but I still dont think you can compare a 1.6L 160 hp NA motor and a 2.4L 215-230hp FI motor. The cars may be in the same market niche as you said but the motors are in two very different classes.

My brother has a 97 accord V-6 (look for a thread in the V-6 forum for pics ) and there is a guy with a neon in my area tha tlives near us, all it has or at least all we can see is neon lights on the hood, fart can, 16 inch wheels, and an ugly ass metal wing. every time he sees us he revs at us and shit like that, He doesdnt stand a chance against my bros car, hope fully one day they can race and my bro will win! also, weve seen him numerous times come running from his trailer to ge tin his car to come after us, he never catches us though ;)

And now my best friend got a 97 accord V-6 and all we do is rev at that guy, and he does the same thign he does to my bro

Neons owners just dont get it ;) ;) ;)

Originally posted by supratuner
My brother has a 97 accord V-6 (look for a thread in the V-6 forum for pics ) and there is a guy with a neon in my area tha tlives near us, all it has or at least all we can see is neon lights on the hood, fart can, 16 inch wheels, and an ugly ass metal wing. every time he sees us he revs at us and shit like that, He doesdnt stand a chance against my bros car, hope fully one day they can race and my bro will win! also, weve seen him numerous times come running from his trailer to ge tin his car to come after us, he never catches us though ;)

And now my best friend got a 97 accord V-6 and all we do is rev at that guy, and he does the same thign he does to my bro

Neons owners just dont get it ;) ;) ;)


If that Neon is a 5-speed, not automatic, you will be owned.

uh...don't underestimate the V6 VTEC motors in the accord. yea...its an auto, but it'd still have plenty of get-up to leave even a 5sp. neon in the dust....especially if the neon has no real mods...

Stock for stock, a Neon 5-speed will leave an Accord V-6 auto in the dust. Accoeds are dogs stock.

ur full of ish...170hp/165trq, compared to 132/130 in the neon...it was my mistake, i forgot it was a 97, so its not the EX VTEC version, but the accord would still have enough umph to get up an beat a neon.

You have to remember, an Accord is going to be at least 700lbs heaver than a Neon.

it's all about the preludes

Originally posted by LoKoBoYraSeR
it's all about the preludes

uh...ok...:rolleyes:

id have to say that my bro would win, ive seen videos of accord V-6 beating and keeping up with GT mustangs, but i htink they were the 98-2002 V-6 Vtec, witha bout 200 HP

Ive heard that the 97 style V-6 accord can keep up with a V-6 mustang, with saying that, i dont think a neon can

If Accords can only "keep up" with Mustangs, a Neon will smoke it. A Neon can take a v-6 Mustang no problem. Again I'm talking stock for stock not modified.

fuck a neon, that ugly piece of shit, i piss on all ricers who roll neons, why ya'll on the accord forums anyways?:bandit: :flipa:

Originally posted by LoKoBoYraSeR
fuck a neon, that ugly piece of shit, i piss on all ricers who roll neons, why ya'll on the accord forums anyways?:bandit: :flipa:

:rolleyes: go read the rules and then realise that everyone has a irght to post in every forum. and the neon is like by alotta people. piss ugly is only your opinion. and from what i have experienced a v6 auto accord WILL loose to a 5 speed neon...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Neons had an optional 150hp engine. That would definitely beat the accord, since neons weigh over 800lbs less! The 132hp version could probably keep up with the accord.

Originally posted by Fliquer
Neons had an optional 150hp engine. That would definitely beat the accord, since neons weigh over 800lbs less! The 132hp version could probably keep up with the accord.

i was thinking the 132 version (2000).

Neons suck just because of the shear fact that they are american. AS with any domestic car, (mabye excluding cadilac ect..) some of them may be faster than the imports, but they sure as hell have nothing on import styling, so basicly if an imports gonna loose to an american car at least its gonna look a hell of a lot better doing it and it will last twice as long as an American car. Dont get me wrong i love this country but they need a little lesson from the Japs on how to make a car look good and last longer.

my 2 cents :evillaugh

i read in a 2002-2003 car guide that the neons advertised HP was overrated and they didn't possess the amount of HP advertised. this is not in referral to the new dodge SX's.
as for a neon beating a v6 accord, is this the new v6 accord we're talking about?? or the 5th-7th gen?
cuz i would think that a 240 engine would kick a "150" despite the 800pound difference. accords were meant to be luxurious family sedans, neons, well, made for just family transportation. can't really compare there unless using a neon and a civic or a 3rd gen efi accord which are around 2.2-2.3 tons.

nah, its the 97, which has 170hp

, also since its american, at about 125,000 miles, it breaks down beyond repair. while honda will last well into 300,000 miles, i know of a civic in my area that has that much on it
no probs either, except for the excessive farting noise ;)

Originally posted by Defiant_YD
i read in a 2002-2003 car guide that the neons advertised HP was overrated and they didn't possess the amount of HP advertised. this is not in referral to the new dodge SX's.
as for a neon beating a v6 accord, is this the new v6 accord we're talking about?? or the 5th-7th gen?
cuz i would think that a 240 engine would kick a "150" despite the 800pound difference. accords were meant to be luxurious family sedans, neons, well, made for just family transportation. can't really compare there unless using a neon and a civic or a 3rd gen efi accord which are around 2.2-2.3 tons.

:rolleyes: hater

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by supratuner
, also since its american, at about 125,000 miles, it breaks down beyond repair. while honda will last well into 300,000 miles, i know of a civic in my area that has that much on it
no probs either, except for the excessive farting noise ;)

:rolleyes: great research to back up your claims. its funny how ameircan cars from the 50's are still on the road today whereas jap carsfrom the 70's havnt lasted... HATER!!! i like all cars and to have a bias is just a stupid way to rate cars...

-GTi-VR6_A3

The only reason the old American cars are still on the road is because people who are dedicated to them completely strip and rebuild them, i guarentee the engine has not stayed in that good a condition for 50+ years. and the paint as well. Jap cars from the 70s are still around, but they just wernt in the baby boomers generation so no one wants to keep them around, they have no sentimental value

Originally posted by 92akkord
The only reason the old American cars are still on the road is because people who are dedicated to them completely strip and rebuild them, i guarentee the engine has not stayed in that good a condition for 50+ years. and the paint as well. Jap cars from the 70s are still around, but they just wernt in the baby boomers generation so no one wants to keep them around, they have no sentimental value

theres a guy up my road with an old ass civic, its really really old, im not sure what year, but im gonna have to say from the 70s at least, and it is so bad looking, i love it.

Originally posted by 92akkord
The only reason the old American cars are still on the road is because people who are dedicated to them completely strip and rebuild them, i guarentee the engine has not stayed in that good a condition for 50+ years. and the paint as well. Jap cars from the 70s are still around, but they just wernt in the baby boomers generation so no one wants to keep them around, they have no sentimental value

my dad owns a 1969 ford clubwagon and it has never been rebuilt and runs great. just normal things like chain hoses rubber parts and wires have been chaged.:rolleyes: my firend at work owns a 79 trans am as well in the exact situation so wah wah wah american cars fall apart...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by GTi-VR6_A3


my dad owns a 1969 ford clubwagon and it has never been rebuilt and runs great. just normal things like chain hoses rubber parts and wires have been chaged.:rolleyes: my firend at work owns a 79 trans am as well in the exact situation so wah wah wah american cars fall apart...

-GTi-VR6_A3

ok kool

you listed two cars!!!!

congradulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by supratuner


ok kool

you listed two cars!!!!

congradulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and you listed one...

its not just those they are just the ones i see everyday. i see plenty more all the time.

-GTi-VR6_A3

^ :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: ^

Originally posted by B16EJ1
^ :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: ^

^:flipa: :finger: :thumbup: :finger4: :finger4: :thumbup: :finger: :flipa: ^

look now i make a useless post like you do. wtf was the pint of you even posting that...:rolleyes:

-GTi-VR6_A3

Oh I made my point you baby. Cry me a river.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
Oh I made my point you baby. Cry me a river.

really you did? i didnt notice... and i dont see how i am a baby but hey whatever gets your dick hard...

-GTi-VR6_A3

Sick bastard :lol2:

Originally posted by B16EJ1
Sick bastard :lol2:

yep but hey what canya do?

-GTi-VR6_A3

You could stop wasting my time for having to read that crap and actually bring some facts to the table..

Originally posted by supratuner
, also since its american, at about 125,000 miles, it breaks down beyond repair. while honda will last well into 300,000 miles, i know of a civic in my area that has that much on it
no probs either, except for the excessive farting noise ;)

Just to support the cause for good old detroit steel, my grandfather had a chevrolet that he put about 800,000 miles on the engine (V8) over the course of it's life. It was a work truck too. All you have to do is take care of your ride.

Oh, and by the way, I've walked a couple V6 stanks.. sorry.. stangs in my driving experience too. My car is rather sluggish, so it's not a huge feat. Someone should find the power/weight ratio of the Neon and the Accord, and tell it like it is.

^^I already did.

As for V6 stangs, they only had 145 hp. A stock civic will eat up one of those.

also since its american, at about 125,000 miles, it breaks down beyond repair. while honda will last well into 300,000 miles,

Thank you for that grandoise generalization. With regular oil changes and proper maintenance, american cars will last as long as any honda. The only exception is GMs electrical systems...and a faulty exectrical system is not exactly what I call "broken beyond repair".

Wasting time and bring something to the table? :rolleyes: This is another of those age old arguments and all of you have either heard or participated in before. This whole thing is a waste of time. Everyone knows if you baby any car and keep up with routine maintenance an automobile will last forever, domestic or import..........oh except a Daewoo.:hehehe:

hey! i like daewoo's :hehehe: j/k...'m korean an even i think they're pieces of junk.

I had a Leganza for about a month. I was very impressed. Too bad sales...

ya man i hear you! lol well actually it's any 1 who see's a hooked up car, they'll try to act hard at the red light so what i do is sit there reving the shit outa it then when it turns green i just sit there watching them look like morons lol:sun:
where at in pittsburgh you from... did you ever go out to Quaker steak on sundays out in robinson...

go check out pitt racing (http://pittracing.com) that's all pittsburgh people on the boards;)

I live in bridgeville and me and my friends hit up the quaker skeak show every sunday, weather permiting ofcoarse......

hey there is this kid with a 95' dodge neon running 13.67 on the quarter mile, all motor no nitrous. and with two jL's with amps.

so the problem isn't the neon the problem is the certain people with the neons

I saw a Neon SRT for the first time up close the other day. I have to admit.. they are pretty nice.

muahahhaha and another falls victim. people have such a hard time liking this car when htey have to realise just kuz its dodge it dont suck. way to be honest :D

-GTi-VR6_A3

Seems that most of you in your Civics and VW's or whatever dont really know what a fast good looking car is. Acura's, Honda's, Toyota's, Nissan's, Neons, VW's are all butt ass ugly and slow. The only real nice car is the NSX, Supra, and the 350z deserves an honorable mention. All the rest are basic transportation devices transformed into retard mobiles with big wings and coffee can exhausts.

TROLL^^^^^^^^^ i wish i had the ban stick

-GTi-VR6_A3

Originally posted by destroyer
Seems that most of you in your Civics and VW's or whatever dont really know what a fast good looking car is. Acura's, Honda's, Toyota's, Nissan's, Neons, VW's are all butt ass ugly and slow. The only real nice car is the NSX, Supra, and the 350z deserves an honorable mention. All the rest are basic transportation devices transformed into retard mobiles with big wings and coffee can exhausts.

There's one point of view... 5,999,999,999 more to go...

Originally posted by Prelewd


There's one point of view... 5,999,999,999 more to go...

hahahahahhaa

-GTi-VR6_A3

hehe, I'll leave and let you guys stroke yourselves with your circus cars.

Originally posted by destroyer
Seems that most of you in your Civics and VW's or whatever dont really know what a fast good looking car is. Acura's, Honda's, Toyota's, Nissan's, Neons, VW's are all butt ass ugly and slow. The only real nice car is the NSX, Supra, and the 350z deserves an honorable mention. All the rest are basic transportation devices transformed into retard mobiles with big wings and coffee can exhausts.

[dripping sarcasm] We've never heard anything like that before. Somebody coming here to isult other peoples rides. That may be the most unique thing ever done here! [/dripping sarcasm]

:rolleyes:

Another dimwit has crawled out from the woodwork.

woodwork? most of the whole world is saturated with a narrow point of view. small thing so sad that people can't understand other people's choices, and in turn, have to put them down.

in a study of psychology, i once read that the reason people put things down is because they have an inferiority with with the subject matter that they are denigrating.

ex: one makes fun of hondas to make himself feel better about his piece of shit ford, or whatever car he might drive.

instead of pointing out the good, they point out the bad, and make it a point to do so. makes me laugh to see so many people with inferiority complexes come in here and poke fun at imports.

destoryer: not everyone that drives a honda likes to put aerospeed wings and APC clear tails on their cars. it might be a rarity, but there are such things as enthusiasts.. most of which you will find on these boards. good day to you sir.

you guys in these forums are pretty funny, like a bunch of little kids arguing over whos' dad could beat up who.

I'll beat your dad up.

You know what I don't understand about Honda owners and Neon owners is the fact that we put an exhaust and an intake on our engine and we think we should be the next car in fast and the furious!!!! I got news for you it ain't gonna happen! I give civics and neons their props they can be nice looking cars if they are done right but I am sorry no civic or neon is gonna run with a truck that is pushing over 400 Horse!! So why is it that all the losers with an intake and exhaust think they are ready for Nopi??? :loser:

well you know you do have a point ,but then agian why do people bring up old post

Because it is just the fact That everyone is arguing over my neon can beat yours my civics faster then yours american cars are pieces of shit bla bla bla, Brong on any civic or neon with mods and a good old detroit muscle car will hand it his ass!!

Hey it's like this look your neon does have great power i not gonna deny that and say anything bad about you car it's a great car (speed wise) for the price if i was into domestics i would have gotten one but it's just no my thingh you know i mean i'm not gonna dis it just because it's a neon (even tho i don't like the look) but your car does offer great power for the low price i say good buy dude have fun with your neon no dises coming from me i respect what's fast from a 4cyl and muscle cars are in a different class of there own if you own one then you know

Originally posted by AmericanMuscle
Because it is just the fact That everyone is arguing over my neon can beat yours my civics faster then yours american cars are pieces of shit bla bla bla, Brong on any civic or neon with mods and a good old detroit muscle car will hand it his ass!!

This is a profoundly ignorant statement.

Originally posted by MosBoost
Hey it's like this look your neon does have great power i not gonna deny that and say anything bad about you car it's a great car (speed wise) for the price if i was into domestics i would have gotten one but it's just no my thingh you know i mean i'm not gonna dis it just because it's a neon (even tho i don't like the look) but your car does offer great power for the low price i say good buy dude have fun with your neon no dises coming from me i respect what's fast from a 4cyl and muscle cars are in a different class of there own if you own one then you know

He drives a DAKOTA R/T, not a NEON R/T.

oh you are so right i'm at work couldn't read whole thing sorry

the other night a lil kit in his neon pulled up to me. the kid could have made it any more obvious how gay his car really is.. he had a 20 dollar exhaust which made the deepest gayest farting noise ive ever fucking heard!.. he yells out the window "wanna go".. i aint no punk in my 92 accord Stick Shift.. normally i dont race.. (just go about 70 down the street always) so i took the challenge.. not only did i blow him off the line with 1st gear, he couldnt even catch up, fucker just trailing behind... dont matter if its a turbo, put me against it il 0wn it. w0rd.

I'll beat your dad up too.

Originally posted by xplode
the other night a lil kit in his neon pulled up to me. the kid could have made it any more obvious how gay his car really is.. he had a 20 dollar exhaust which made the deepest gayest farting noise ive ever fucking heard!.. he yells out the window "wanna go".. i aint no punk in my 92 accord Stick Shift.. normally i dont race.. (just go about 70 down the street always) so i took the challenge.. not only did i blow him off the line with 1st gear, he couldnt even catch up, fucker just trailing behind... dont matter if its a turbo, put me against it il 0wn it. w0rd.


My friend one thing you need to understand, I am not talking down, but a SRT4, which would be a turbo charged neon you will not own!! You are a prime example of one of the Fast and furious kids, You drive an accord thats cool but it is not all that and yes a turbo charged neon or SRT4 would own you i am sorry to say. And if you really want a rush come meet me and my dakota r/t.

The SRT is Dodge's way (and a damn good way, seen the car and driver report?) of attacking the Import market. I don't care what people say, I've seen freggin fast Neons. I agree some jerkoff in a stock neon with a tin can can't talk. An SRT owner can, shoot throw a neon-looking body on it and you'd have a hell of a lurker. My accord know's it's place, I'd get told. For that matter I got told by a "ford taurus" the other night :confused: ... now thats a lurker.

if i were to be given an SRT4 id drive it around, do burn outs, maybe spank a civic or two, sell it, then buy something for my accord.

pointless info...then again i dont kno much about dodge. so forgive me if i dont add any kind of info bout its stats or what have you. that's all folks

My parents owned a Chrysler minivan, a Chevrolet pickup, a Honda Accord, and just bought a Dodge Ram. My sister owns a Honda CR-V, and I own a Honda Accord.

The Chrysler minivan had so many problems, we visited the dealership about once a month to have something else fixed. The Chevy pickup has been a total peice of shit, they've had to replace the radiator, carburator, alternator, starter, and things they haven't even told me about. I thought they should have bought a Toyota Tacoma but they didn't consult me on buying this new truck. All I can say is, we haven't had good experience with domestics in the past, so we'll have to see.

On the other hand, my dad's '95 Accord has over 365,000 miles on it and hasn't had any major problems. My sister's '99 CR-V has over 125,000 miles and has no problems, and my '94 Accord is pushing 130,000 miles and the worst problem with it was a rusty exhaust.

I have four friends that own Toyota pickups. Three have Tacomas and one has a plain pickup. None of them have had any major problems that I can recall (although one guy had his horn get stuck). However, I did have a friend who went out and bought a Dodge Neon and after 1 year wanted to sell it. I went over to it and leaned on the hood and you could hear the suspension was messed up. I'll admit, some domestic cars are quality, but I believe it is easier to find a quality import. The father of the guy who owns the plain Toyota pickup also has a Chevy Tahoe and a '97 Hummer. These cars have been pretty good to them. The Tahoe broke down once and the Hummer isn't starting at the moment, but besides that have been pretty reliable.

I just have to say in my experience, I trust Honda and Toyota more than I do Dodge and Chevrolet. However, to prove that I'm not cowering behind imports, I also wouldn't buy a Subaru or Mazda, with the exception of the WRX STi, but only because it's the highest quality car Subaru makes, and even than I'd take a 3.2TL over that any day.

I realize that domestics have pretty good power, that's one reason why I don't race people on the street. I drive a Honda Accord, it is not a power demon. It is reliable, however, and not having to take my car to the shop all the time is something that's important to me.