Shaking while Braking

I have a problem with my 95' park ave. I've changed the rotors,recently and the drums yesterday. And got the tire balanced today, but I still get a vibration from the steering wheel when I step on the brakes at speeds above 50mph and the vibration intensity increases with speed. Do I have a worn supension component?

What kind (brand) of rotors did you install? Did you install new pads with the rotors and new shoes with the drums?

I installed durlast rotors (autozone) and pads about 4 months ago and I just installed weaver drums (advance auto) and duralast shoes a couple of days ago.

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Made in China rotors and too much metallic in the pads. Garbage! Right Bo (HotZ28)?

I installed durlast rotors (autozone) and pads about 4 months ago and I just installed weaver drums (advance auto) and duralast shoes a couple of days ago.Exactly what I thought! Duralast rotors are POS Made-in-China JUNK! Take the rotors & pads back and get a full refund, then go buy some Raysbestos PG Plus, or Bendix rotors @ Advanced. You will have to pay about 15-25 bucks more per-rotor for the Quality brands, but you will be glad you did! :grinyes: If your rear shoes/drums were worn, or not making good contact, that put an extra burden on the front rotors and may have contributed to early heat-warp. Normally Duralast rotors will last 6-12 months before warping! :lol:

Thanks for the info. I'll probably have to deal with it for a while, don't have much cash, because I just got my a/c fixed. Will the durlast pads warp the Bendix or Raysbestos PG Plus rotors?

Get a refund for the pads and rotors; they have a 2-year warranty on the rotors and lifetime on the pads. Duralast pads are junk! Get either Raysbestos or Bendix pads matched for your driving needs. Never install used pads on any brand of new rotor!

Never install used pads on any brand of new rotor!

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Excellent advice Bo.

Thanks for the info, I'll deal with the problem a little longer, I usually drive on the interstate (10-15 mile trips in one direction) and travel between 70mph-80mph :grinyes: , and brake hard sometimes, which pads would be the best between the two u described. I think I made a boo boo. I just changed out somebody's rotor last week and used duralast rotors and kept the same brake pads :screwy:. It was a small car so it might not be to bad. I figured that duralast brake pads were crap because if the can offer a lifetime warranty they had to be to hard. The rotors I thought would be okay. Even my teacher talk bad about them.

" Some of us have just have to learn from experience" :iamwithst

Exactly what I thought! Duralast rotors are POS Made-in-China JUNK! Take the rotors & pads back and get a full refund, then go buy some Raysbestos PG Plus, or Bendix rotors @ Advanced. You will have to pay about 15-25 bucks more per-rotor for the Quality brands, but you will be glad you did! :grinyes: If your rear shoes/drums were worn, or not making good contact, that put an extra burden on the front rotors and may have contributed to early heat-warp. Normally Duralast rotors will last 6-12 months before warping! :lol:

Are the Raybestos rotors made in US or China? I was trying to find out on their website and it sounds like the company is owned by another company now--they have a different website and they don't talk about the source of the product.

I did find on Bendix's site that their top line rotors are made in US/Canada.

What about the Wearever pads and rotors from AdvanceAutoParts?

I've been shopping rotors and pads myself.

I was trying to find out on their website and it sounds like the company is owned by another company now--they have a different website and they don't talk about the source of the product.

That is true. Affinia Under Vehicle Group, Brake Parts, Inc. located in McHenry, IL. The Professional Grade and Advanced Technology rotors are supposed to be Made in USA but you never know for sure. I had some old Raybestos PG Plus boxes but I threw them away. Also, Raybestos makes many of the OE rotors for GM/AC Delco.

There's a possibility here that hasn't been mentioned for C man.

When you did the rotors and pads, how did the calipers slide? Did you disassemble them and replace the rubber buffers the metal slides move on and lube them with silicon?

I wonder if C man has a caliper that's not working right , either the piston and seal or the slides for the pins is dragging and has overheated the rotor. I had a caliper when my 98 was relatively new that caused the rotor to heat up and I got the warped sensation. If it wasn't dragging that day it didn't seem to have a bad rotor. But the hot rotor and the pads hitting it really emphasized the feeling.

I suggest replacing both calipers with remanufactured. I just used two from Advanced Auto and the rubber slides, pins were all there new and were lubed with silicon. They were about $30 each.

I'd get new rotor from somewhere to replace the one that's been over heated.

Another issue common in my area of the country is heavily rusted wheel mount hubs, put on new rotors without cleaning them properly and you have huge runout problems no matter whose rotors, BTW most PG rotors are Canadian.

Also, improperly torquing the lug nuts. Should be 100 lb-ft in a star pattern. The worse tool to use is an air impact tool like the tire shops. Always over-torquing from my experiences.

Plus hitting hot rotors with water like during a car wash doesn't help either. That will possibly warp good name brand quality rotors.

I changed the brakes the shade tree mechanic way. I just put new rotors and brake pads on without any grease (trying to be cheap). The calipers don't seem to be bad. I never have the the pulling to one side braking as if one of the calipers is stuck. I wish I could remember if my car has always had the steering shake when braking at high speeds. I don't think it did when I first got it (1.5 years ago),but I can't remember when it started before I changed the rotors and when it started again after i changed them :uhoh: . I looks like I need to do a whole front end brake job.:shakehead

Another issue common in my area of the country is heavily rusted wheel mount hubs, put on new rotors without cleaning them properly and you have huge runout problems no matter whose rotors, BTW most PG rotors are Canadian.

Good point about the clean contact on the hub for the new rotors.

I am wondering which format the 95 PA has. My 93 leSabre had pins with metals sleeves that needed lubed and they went inside the ears on the calipers. Inside the ears were giant o-rings that provided the rubber mount to avoid rattling and let the metal sleeves slide. Nasty.

My 98 leSabre has long rubber tubes that go inside the caliper ears and those need lube so the metal sleeves can slide and the sleeves are lubed inside for the pins (bolts) to slide inside them.

On both the corrosion inside the caliper ears is a problem. It's supposed to be cleaned out with a brake hone to get back to clean metal.

I think I have the set up like your 98' lesabre.I put that cheap worthless grease they like to sell you everytime you buy brakes on the pins. The car is 13yrs old so I think I'll get a caliper rebuild kit or just buy new ones. I also need a paint job right now. It looks like GM older white cars like to shed snow flakes everytime you wash them.:lol:

Are the Raybestos rotors made in US or China? I was trying to find out on their website and it sounds like the company is owned by another company now--they have a different website and they don't talk about the source of the product. I did find on Bendix's site that their top line rotors are made in US/Canada. What about the Wearever pads and rotors from AdvanceAutoParts? I've been shopping rotors and pads myself.
Wearever brand rotors are China junk also! Found some more info from from "Affinia Under Vehicle Group" below!
Raybestos® brand brakes are produced by Affinia Under Vehicle Group, the leading manufacturer of braking systems and components for the automotive industry. The line includes everything from brake drums to rotors, pads, shoes and hydraulic parts. Affinia Under Vehicle Group is at the forefront of research and development in brake technology and operates manufacturing and distribution facilities throughout North America. Raybestos® brand brakes are the official brakes of NASCAR, and the NASCAR relationship also includes the Raybestos Rookie of the Year Award, which is presented to the top rookie in each of the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup, Busch and Craftsman Truck racing series. For more information about Raybestos® brand brakes, visit www.raybestos.com (http://www.raybestos.com/).

Affinia Group Inc. is a global leader in the on- and off-highway replacement parts and service industry. In North America the Affinia family of brands includes WIX® Filters, Raybestos® brand brakes and Aimco® brake products, and McQuay-Norris® and Spicer® Chassis parts. South American and European brands include Nakata®, Urba® and Quinton Hazell®. For more information, visit www.affiniagroup.com (http://www.affiniagroup.com/).

Now that you brought it up Bo, the Raybestos Aimco brand is Made in China. I recall installing them in my in law's '98 LeSabre. Just a cheaper alternative to the Professional Grade Plus but sure beats Autozone's Duralast brand. So far it has accumulated at least 30K miles since the complete brake job and no problems to date. Definitely no rotor warp or excessive lateral runout. :grinno:


RAYBESTOS PG PLUS™ Rotors offer the most complete line of VSM™ vehicle specific metallurgy rotors, the latest development in rotor technology. These premium, high-quality rotors feature 103 distinct vane configurations, to ensure your replacement part matches Original Equipment design . The rotors have an ultra smooth braking surface to reduce noise, dust and maximize disc pad life. Compared to economy rotors, PG PLUS VSM Rotors are three times quieter, can stop your vehicle 22.5 feet sooner and provide up to 30% more pad life. They are designed to provide the highest levels of dependability, safety and superior performance.

Thanks Bob and yes, the Amico "Raysbestos" brand are made in China, however, their quality standards are evidently better than some of the competition. Still, for an $30 extra bucks, you can have PG Plus, and the satisfaction of knowing that you got the real thing! Heavy cars demand quality brake componants!

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I would say the same is applicable to the smaller GM cars that are made to go faster than intended. :wink:

Here is the Raybestos PG Plus rotor with new AC Delco hubs on an '02 Olds Alero GL2. My son needs them after blowing the doors off those riceburners, of course at the drag strip. :grinyes:

And just think we aren't even getting paid for our testimonials. :lol:

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Funny animation. My brother has a honda passport. Tried to out race me when I first go my car. Needless to say it smelled like burnt rice :newburn:when I got done. :grinyes:

I went to autozone today to get some spark plugs. I told the guy that I bought some rotors from them and that they were warped. He looked at me crazy and said that my rotors couldn't be warped but that they were glazed. maybe from going thru some water while the rotors was hot and that I should get them turned. Could that be true? That would mean u would have to turn the rotors everytime it rained. To me if u have to get the rotors turned that means they're warped. I didn't want to argue with him. But I told him I would just replace them with some new one. I want to get the bendix rotors and pads but I just don't have the extra money. I need a paint job bad (GM white paint) which I plan on getting soon. So my question is does the parts man have some kind of arugument or is he a know-it-all .

Well, look at this way, if the AZ “parts man knows it all” he would not be working at AutoZone! :iceslolan He may know just enough to try and confuse the customer into thinking that they sell quality parts and he has been trained to avoid warranty claims by blaming the defect on the customer. Did he even look at the rotors, or just make an assumption based on what you told him? Take the rotors and pads back and tell them that the parts are defective and all you want is your money back! Take your refund and go to Advanced and buy the Bendix rotors/pads.

Hey it me again I'm posting to this thread before the three month rule comes up becuase I going to post again i a couple of days. But I have a update on the rotor situation. Due to finaces I couldn't get the bendix rotors and pads. So I went back to autozone and got the rotors and pads replaced. :screwy: Well two months later they're warped again.:banghead: So tommorrow I'm gonna order some bendix rotors and pads from advance auto. I've learned my lesson. Can I still get my money back even though I already replace then once?

Can I still get my money back even though I already replace then once? See the AZ Warranty details shown below: (Notice the "at our option" comment)

We will replace, or refund your money for, at our option, any part we sell that wears out or breaks under warranty. Your warranty starts on the day you buy the part and expires at the end of warranty period stated on the receipt or when you sell your vehicle - whichever comes first. To obtain a replacement part, visit any AutoZone store or contact AutoZone.com at 1-800-288-6966 to arrange return shipping. Replacement parts are warranted for the remainder of the warranty period or 90 days, whichever is longer. The warranty does not cover defects due to improper installation, other defective parts, low fluid levels, abuse, or commercial, off-road or marine use.
THIS LIMITED WARRANTY REPRESENTS THE TOTAL LIABILITY OF AUTOZONE FOR ANY WARRANTIED PART, AND AUTOZONE MAKES NO OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. AUTOZONE SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES.
Some states do not allow limitations on how long an implied warranty lasts, or exclusion or limitation on incidental or consequential damages, so the above limitations may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights, and you may also have other rights, which vary from state to state.
All of AutoZone's parts, except those, mentioned previously, are covered by our Limited Warranty. The length of AutoZone's Limited Warranty varies with each part. To locate the length of our Warranty for your part, please visit our Shopping area.

I have to say I have been through too many sets of Rotors on these large cars... Got tired of them warping all of the time and bought Bendix Rotors... At the time they were still made in the US, and were great quality... I also bought the Bendix Titanium Metallic Pads... Its been 3 very long and abusive years... Still no warp on the rotors.. They have worn very well as have the pads.. After 3 years and my driving style they have held up great.. And the part I liked the most was even after long runs on the interstate the Brake fade with them is next to nothing...

On the 95 Transport( 94-96 Used the H and C Body Rotors ).... On this one I have gone a different route... Myself and a buddy do a lot of automotive work on the side and deal with his brother in law( works at a parts store, We get great prices )... I have a set of Wagner Rotors and Pads... They look to be pretty decent quality and look better than whats currently on the van.. I'll have to see how they fair on my trip home and back.. From what I understand, some of the Advance Auto parts are starting to carry the Wagner Rotors and pads..

Autozone rotors suck..
Advance Wearever( They suck just as bad as the above )

Bendix.... I am not sure of their quality of standards these days... They are not making the product they did several years ago..

I would love to have a set of Power Slot Rotors for the Van... But don't have the $$$ for them at the current..

CMAN, let us know how the brake job goes..

Since this thread started, I have personally upgraded the brakes on my 96-Ultra with Raysbestos “Advanced Technology” rotors and Raysbestos “Quite-Stop” ceramic pads. After two months of some hard abusive driving (after the break-in period), I will once again provide Raysbestos with some free advertising. This is the best combination for the money on the market!! I have tried many other combinations of rotors/pads (including Bendix) and have never had anything come close to the stopping power of this set-up. Every stop is straight & sure, with no apparent fade. The rear drums & shoes were replaced earlier with new Raysbestos PG-Plus. After some hard driving, I checked the wheel & rotor temps with my Raytec Lazar thermometer and both checked below 180 deg, much lower than with the OEM rotors & semi-metallic pads. An additional benefit of the ceramic pads are, they leave very little brake dust on the wheels. I could not find the rotors or pads in stock @ my local Advanced Auto, so I ordered them online & had them shipped to my door. BTW, shipping was free and no TAX added. These were shipped from Phoenix, AZ and I had them within one week from the order date. Both rotors & pads for the front, cost about $160.00 total. Some pics after the install shown below. Notice the nice powder coating (inside & out) on the hubs to prevent rust! :iceslolan


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I got the Bendix rotors and Wagner pads. I'm about to do them once my rotors cool down. The manager told me they don't carry bendix pads anymore. I got a 10% discount, since I'm a good customer,so I saved $16 dollar on a 160 dollar tab. Now I'll have to see if autozone will give me my money back.

Don't forget to knock the sleeves out of the calipers to clean & lubricate the slides and pins. Good luck with AZ!

I'm done changing the rotors and pads. I had a mishap while doing the job I was putting the rotor on and the caliper slipped off of the hub housing. I had a choice to make let the brake hose possible snap of or let the rotor go. Well I kinda let the rotor go. I didn't fall far or and it fell straight down so the surface didn't get scratched. but the Inner pad got a nice little scrape, well some material is missing on the edges. I must say the Wagner pads are softer than the durlast pads which is a good thing. I dropped the durlast pads on the ground on purpose, not a scratch, I hate them. I also adjusted the back shoes some more. This time I'm trying to eliminate any irritation.

The sad news is that the autozone man told me that they don't give back cash refunds after 90 days but that he could replace them but I said no I don't want them anymore. So he said he'll let his manger handle it so I'll find something out monday.

One last thing, what does this mean? I'm talkin about the different Brand names
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Since this thread started, I have personally upgraded the brakes on my 96-Ultra with Raysbestos “Advanced Technology” rotors and Raysbestos “Quite-Stop” ceramic pads. After two months of some hard abusive driving (after the break-in period), I will once again provide Raysbestos with some free advertising. This is the best combination for the money on the market!! I have tried many other combinations of rotors/pads (including Bendix) and have never had anything come close to the stopping power of this set-up. Every stop is straight & sure, with no apparent fade. The rear drums & shoes were replaced earlier with new Raysbestos PG-Plus. After some hard driving, I checked the wheel & rotor temps with my Raytec Lazar thermometer and both checked below 180 deg, much lower than with the OEM rotors & semi-metallic pads. An additional benefit of the ceramic pads are, they leave very little brake dust on the wheels. I could not find the rotors or pads in stock @ my local Advanced Auto, so I ordered them online & had them shipped to my door. BTW, shipping was free and no TAX added. These were shipped from Phoenix, AZ and I had them within one week from the order date. Both rotors & pads for the front, cost about $160.00 total. Some pics after the install shown below. Notice the nice powder coating (inside & out) on the hubs to prevent rust! :iceslolan




You mean "Made in China" rotors. :uhoh:...................:lol:

I don't know about that Bo on the issue of the best pads to use. I did not have good luck withe Raybestos ceramic pads so I canned them in favor of Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads. I'll take superior stopping power over the cosmetic issues. I can live with the brake dust. BTDT!

I see you painted the rotor fins and center area. Good idea because even Raybestos rotors are subject to rust no matter what part of the country you live in.

BTW - You can get Raybestos PG Plus brake parts at any Checkers, Kragen, Schucks auto parts store right off the shelf. I found the price wasn't that bad either considering the waiting time. And the box does say "Made in China".

Actually Bob, the hubs and cooling fins on the “Advanced Technology” rotors came with the powder coating applied, I did not paint anything! Let’s not confuse the standard “OEM or Better PG Plus rotors” with the Advanced Technology, they are not the same rotor, (apples & oranges). In addition, Raysbestos offers two distinctly different ceramic brake pads, one of which is a (lower grade) Professional Grade (PG) ceramic and the other is a much improved grade “Quite Stop” (QS) technology. BTW, the box that my Advanced Technology rotors came in was clearly marked with; “Made in the USA, or Canada”. Some more up-to-date-info from Raysbestos shown below:
New Simplified Product Offering Is Built Around Technicians’ Needs

McHenry, Ill. — April 13, 2007 McHenry, Ill. (April 13, 2007) – The product offering for Raybestos® brand brakes has been completely re-engineered based on many months of extensive research with repair technicians.

“We conducted both qualitative and quantitative research to understand precisely what techs want and need from a brake supplier,” says Jeff Stauffer, vice president of global marketing for Affinia. “As a result, we are launching our Raybestos® brand 1-2-3 strategy — a program that also addresses the proliferation of both parts and vendors, which has become a major problem for distributors.”

Stauffer goes on to say the research clearly revealed that techs require a single line of hydraulics, two grades of rotors and three grades of friction. “The studies told us that a single line of hydraulics made to OE specs is all that is needed. With rotors, most situations can be addressed with a basic professional grade of OE-equivalent products, but some applications, especially severe duty or premium vehicles, require an ultra premium product capable of outperforming OE,” says Stauffer.

Stauffer indicates the studies showed friction to be more complex. “Sometimes techs have to meet a specific price point for a value-conscious customer. In those cases, they need a standard grade product that will perform well, but that is modestly priced. For the vast majority of the jobs they do, they need an ‘OE or Better’ product that comes complete with all the hardware to do a job. Finally, in certain situations, they want an advanced product capable of out performing OE — and that’s what we’re giving them.”

With the launch of the new Raybestos® brand 1-2-3 strategy, all technicians’ needs can be filled now with a single grade of hydraulics, two grades of rotors and three grades of friction — all in the Raybestos® brand. The friction line is segmented into three grades that reflect the needs described by technicians. The core offering, Professional Grade™ friction, provides “OE or Better” quality and coverage and comes complete with all required hardware. This principle grade of OE-equivalent friction is augmented by two complementary offerings — Advanced Technology™ friction, which is designed for specific severe duty and performance applications and Service Grade™ friction, which is priced to help technicians meet the needs of their budget-conscious customers.

Raybestos® brand rotors are offered in both Professional Grade and Advanced Technology lines. Professional Grade rotors give techs the broadest coverage for almost every vehicle in operation; including the latest models. Right out of the box, they provide performance that matches that of the original vehicle parts.

Advanced Technology rotors have a machine finish that exceeds what is offered by most OE suppliers and other Aftermarket lines. While economy rotors can exceed a 120 RA rating, these rotors have an RA finish that averages between 40 and 60 — providing a surface far smoother than can be found almost anywhere else and one that cannot be achieved in shops on brake lathes. “This superior finish is designed for silent operation of most friction materials,” says Bruce Reau, vice president of category management for Affinia Under Vehicle Group.

In addition to their superior finish, Advance Technology rotors feature a corrosion-resistant coating, which is exclusive to the Raybestos® line. Due to superior manufacturing, Raybestos® brand Advanced Technology rotors are ready to install right out of the box and are backed by an industry-first No Turn Guarantee.

Raybestos® brand consolidated its two hydraulic lines into one Professional Grade line. The new line features innovative noise reduction technology and form, fit and function that match OE.

“Techs made it clear that they maintain a high degree of trust and respect for the Raybestos® brand. But, too often, they felt they were required to turn to other brands to get the price or performance characteristics they needed for certain jobs,” says Reau. “We want to show Raybestos® is the only brand capable of addressing all their needs.”

Reau concludes by saying the reception the new Raybestos® brand 1-2-3 strategy is receiving an extremely positive response from the market place. “When we present the strategy to any of our distributor channel partners, universally, the response is how much sense it makes,” says Reau. “We view this as validation we have the right strategy.”

Raybestos® brand brakes are produced by the Affinia Under Vehicle Group, the leading manufacturer of braking systems and components for the automotive industry. The line includes everything from brake drums to rotors, pads, shoes and hydraulic parts. Affinia Under Vehicle Group is at the forefront of research and development in brake technology and operates manufacturing and distribution facilities throughout North America. Raybestos® brand brakes are the official brakes of NASCAR, and the NASCAR relationship also includes the Raybestos Rookie of the Year Award, which is presented to the top rookie in each of the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup, Busch and Craftsman Truck racing series.

One last thing, what does this mean? I'm talkin about the different Brand names
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff346/dee1538/bendixrotorbox.jpg The other part numbers simply show the cross reference numbers of other parts & brands, not necessarily of comparable quality!

Actually Bob, the hubs and cooling fins on the “Advanced Technology” rotors came with the powder coating applied, I did not paint anything! Let’s not confuse the standard “OEM or Better PG Plus rotors” with the Advanced Technology, they are not the same rotor, (apples & oranges). In addition, Raysbestos offers two distinctly different ceramic brake pads, one of which is a (lower grade) Professional Grade (PG) ceramic and the other is a much improved grade “Quite Stop” (QS) technology. BTW, the box that my Advanced Technology rotors came in was clearly marked with; “Made in the USA, or Canada”. Some more up-to-date-info from Raysbestos shown below:

Ah! My bad Bo. Advanced Technology and comes with the power coating...interesting. :grinyes: The last time we chatted via PM you were pushing the Raybestos Pro PG Plus stuff which I still use with excellent results but with the other performance disc pads. So the "Advanced Technology" components is still Made in North America versus China. Send me a link to the supplier. I was saddened when I found out the PG Plus stuff was "Made in China" versus Canada and the U.S. in older times.

BTW - I used the Raybestos "Quiet Stop" brand and it was a no go for me but with PG Plus rotors maybe using the AT rotors will make a difference.

AT Made in US or Canada? Which one for sure?

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For now I retract the "My Bad" statement. Obviously, Raybestos has some explaining to do on the true origin of their 'Advanced Technology" brake components like the rotors. Possible multiple points of manufacture (U.S., Canada or China)? :dunno: Also, looks like they have sold out on us to the cheaper labor and costs in China. See link below which is anecdotal at best but makes you wonder. No doubt that OP has the AT stuff.

Click here (http://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388193)

Guys, I have found in the day to day business here in upstate NY, the quality of the " Chinese" rotors has improved greatly, both from Napa and Carquest, regardless of brand, but rust issues persist after 3 years or so.

Buy USA. Look at the cheap out you just made. What did you save? $20 at the most? You buy US made quality aftermarket is the jobber for the OEM is wear out they part out their cars.

Say, Moog was my guess about loose tie-rod ends making a wobble, but parts being on the cheap and those high spots either out of round is they do not (corrupt) care is your dog food and tooth paste is buyer beware is more how you purchase parts; keep it in the family, you might say the dog is still alive. Sounds like your car received a car part like dog food? :nono:

Been driving with the new brake job. The car brakes so much nicer. You can tell that the new brake pads aren't eating into the rotors from the pedal, its not spongy but it feels good.It just brakes better overall.Plus no brake noise :) . To top it off autozone gave me the money back on my rotors.