Ok, everytime i race someone i get crapped on for picking on a lesser of a car so im asking you guys....Whats fair? Ive raced a modded Civic Ex (crushed him) also raced a Civic Si that was modded(crushed again), what am i supposed to race!?

Heres my mod list: HKS high flow intake, 75mm programmed Maf, SVT TB, SVT intake plinum, SVT 19lbs injectors, UR pulley, MSD dig. ignition, 8.5 NGK wires,Venom 400 power module, Jet chip, Borla exhaust, Straight piped(no catylics/no pre-cats), matrix coilovers, B&M short throw shifter, 17"Enkie RS6 wheels, I have a NX Nitrous kit(75hp shot)but havnt used it yet. But, i would if i thought i would lose!:D

Wins a Wins if they race you they shouldnt bitch when they lose:eshooter:

Try finding one of those new turbocharged Neons to play around with when they come out. I don't get what you're looking for anyways I mean you seem like you want a good challenge but then you say you'll use nitrous if you're afraid of losing? What do you want?

Try some mustang GTs or a cobra.

What am i looking for? A hair raising damn good race, thats what im looking for. The nitrous would be used to spank V8's, i got it because of how many there are that think they are the sh**!! I really dont think they will come through with the Neon man, they already scratched the Cavalier idea, and to be honest GM and Dodge think about the same when it comes to performance in there cars. They are WAY behind when it comes to performance(except the Viper, but c'mon its a $50,000 car). So my point is im here to race the imports not Neons, dont get me wrong ill race whomever but i want some more imports under my belt!!!!!:devil:

Ive raced two GT's so far, ive won once but the one loss was before i had hardly any mods on my car. I think i would take him now. The only way the GT's can win is if the driver knows what hes doing. If they cant launch they are going to be playing catch up!! Now Cobras, dont know? Maybe with a 100hp shot half way through the 1/4 mile might do the trick but not sure. I think they would blow past me by the end of the race! Ill try some time!

Hmmm ... sounds like you need to tangle with a fast car.

like a single turbo MKIV Supra :jump:
:D

I think they are supposed to be producing those turbo neons next year or the year afterwards. They are definately going into production, the demand is there for it.

So eh....try a Cobra or a Z28/SS. Good luck if you happen to run into a 2003 Cobra though....
Imports, yeah try the Supras. Maybe try and find a fast 300ZX or Rx-7 around your area.

We can give you recommendations all day long but don't you think it would be better to get to know some people who race? They would know whats fast around your area better then any of us could tell you.

Try finding a newer Porsche to race (this excludes the slow boxster), there are a good deal of them almost wherever you go. I know out where I live there is an incredible amount of big dollar cars, so finding a fast car to race isn't all that tough, only takes a hour or two of riding around. But yea, watch out for single turbo Supras, some are laying down over 700rwhp (no nitrous) on the street.

s2000

Have you ever had your cougar to the track? It shouldnt be to hard to find another vehicle to give you a run for your money. Since with your mods you are probably running around a 15 flat or so.

How about a little postwhoring?

WOOHOO!!! WE GOT NEW SMILIES!
:puke12: :thumbup: :jumpie: :spam: :spam2: :twoguns:

Originally posted by CougarSVT
What am i looking for? A hair raising damn good race, thats what im looking for. The nitrous would be used to spank V8's, i got it because of how many there are that think they are the sh**!! I really dont think they will come through with the Neon man, they already scratched the Cavalier idea, and to be honest GM and Dodge think about the same when it comes to performance in there cars. They are WAY behind when it comes to performance(except the Viper, but c'mon its a $50,000 car). So my point is im here to race the imports not Neons, dont get me wrong ill race whomever but i want some more imports under my belt!!!!!:devil:

Are you talking about the SRT-4 Neon??? They're already in production... I saw one at the Dodge Dealership about 2 weeks ago...

Ummm, Vipers are near $85,000... dont know where you got $50,000 from.

Did you forget about Corvettes? I'm sure either a Viper or a 'Vette would tear you up.

Or If you really want a good race, head on out to PA and race my good buddy Hybridsol... He's got probably the fastest Import on AF. He'll show you a good race.

Then, after you loose. You can take a trip out to KY, and race 94Svt5.0, I'm sure his 'slow' V8 would show ya a thing or two.

And after that loss, you can come on out to AZ, and race R1Rider and see how well bikes do...

And since your in AZ, might as well come to CA and race TerminalV with his mighty Thunderbird. Or you can race Me... By that time I should have everything completed on the Nova.

So... In conclusion... Bring It:twoguns: :jumpie:

Already being sold huh? Well looks like the Firebird is going to get its ass kicked a few times now by 4 bangers....

I'm sure they'll try and rev at my mighty 80's L98 :p.

Hey Cougar, how do you fare against a ITR with just basic bolt ons like i/h/e with you racing only on motor? That should be a good race. But a decent driver of that ITR should come out on top.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Have you ever had your cougar to the track? It shouldnt be to hard to find another vehicle to give you a run for your money. Since with your mods you are probably running around a 15 flat or so.


No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!

Ok, when your done w/ your Nova ill set you up w/ Brian Mclaufflin that has one running 9 sec 1/4!!!

mmmmm i think an s2000 would smoke you with a decent driver.....

you must not know about hybridsol......

and redneck said he wanted to race you not mclaffin...whatever his name is

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!

Ok, when your done w/ your Nova ill set you up w/ Brian Mclaufflin that has one running 9 sec 1/4!!!

Wow.. 14.7 is pretty quick. What are your 60' times?? And you think you're gonna run 14 flat with a 75 shot?? Dang. Thats a 7 tenth drop. It should be a good race between you(not squeezing) and a i/h/e ITR..


Redneck said that Hybridsol is probaly the fastest import(s) on AF.

Oh yea.. and if you ever get around to racing hybrid, he wouldn't even need to launch and you'd be done for. And yes, thats even if you're squeezing.

im sure hed even kick your ass in reverse *hybridsol*

cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.

Originally posted by cougar4life
cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.

ooooooooooo he said you drive like a girl! :finger: j/k!

I know of a couple of SupraTT's and 300ZTT's around town that would make you cry... And the funny part is they don't squeeze...

Have you tried one of the new 350Z/G35 Coupes yet?? That should be fun...

I'd run ya' if you weren't in Ohio!:p

Originally posted by DemonZX
I'd run ya' if you weren't in Ohio!:p

What stage are you at?

Probably I'd say 3 1/2

Battle of the imports was this last weekend at my home track in cali, we saw a brand new srt (bone stock) go 13.90's he was running 14.0's all day then when it cooled off a bit he got his 13. I Drove a srt-4 today, i hate 4 bangers but this thing is bad, for 20 you cant beat it. Also it stops better then my roomys 01 ss and it handles pretty damn good.

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.



With your numbers, you should try to take on a stock GTI 1.8T. They are 14.6-15.2 stock. That should be a drivers race

Originally posted by cougar4life
cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.


No disrespect but NO stock Cougar will run under 16.0 1/4 mi. Check the stats on the cat first. It takes a shit load of bolt ons to make them run good, and some weight lose helps to. 2850lbs+170HP=16.1 1/4 mile!

My friend just bought a brand new 350Z (orange color?). We plan on racing this summer, but in all reality unless he cant drive he should walk me!
Oh, the guy that thinks S2000's are the shit, i have a video for you to watch that has a new Mustang GT with a h-pipe and exhaust racing a S2000 WITH nitrous and the S2000 got spanked, like i said they are not that impressive.....for the amount of $$ you have to spend to get one!
Like i said i know ALOT of Honda boys here that are NOT pro's and are running 11.0 1/4!! No disrespect to whatever his name is, my point was theres some tough-ass' out there that scare me half to death and not just one guy(whatever his name is). :p.

Originally posted by TDIguy


With your numbers, you should try to take on a stock GTI 1.8T. They are 14.6-15.2 stock. That should be a drivers race

Finally a good response! That does sound like a good race! I work w/ a kid that has a 1.8T VW but he wont race :devil:

14.7 an u think ur rollin like a god? bring ur car up to washington, an we'll show u how "quick u are." my frien in his ls/vtec h/b would love to run ur "fast cougar." first off...s2000=blow ur doors off. its a low 14's, high 13's car, so ur not even worth its time. u have a video to back urself up? big deal...i'll show u a geo metro whoopin the shit outta a supra...a video's a video, NOT IMPRESSIVE. u run 15.0 most of the time? big whoop...i'll run that with SIMPLE bolts an no backseat. run some imports that actually have something on them...beating a civic isn't impressive AT ALL. im not saying my car is fast by any means, but im not posting wut a "challenge" would be...go out, run some integras or try the new SRT-4's an have fun lookin at their tail lights. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!



The guy that suggested you run an Integra Type R suggested a good challenge for you...make sure you spray. Quite a few of them have broken into the 13's with just bolt-ons...NO forced-induction. With that in mind, S2000s are FASTER than the ITRs.

Ask these guys (http://www.s2ki.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=34) for a race...I'm sure one of them lives by you. You can also ask them about their various Mustang GT kills. One of these races were between a stock S2000 and a mildly-modified 99GT (incidentally, this is also the GT owner's screenname in there). The GT owner himself said he lost. They're pretty cool guys so PLEASE don't go in there flaming, considering I linked you there.

EDIT: They have a video of the GT VS S2000 race, I believe...I know I've seen one such race there.

Race a Camro Z28 thats been modded i got beaten by like 4 car lengths when i did that.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Race a Camro Z28 thats been modded i got beaten by like 4 car lengths when i did that.

What were you in?

But yea, I agree. A STOCK or lightly modded Z28 would probably be a nice challenge.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
14.7 an u think ur rollin like a god? bring ur car up to washington, an we'll show u how "quick u are." my frien in his ls/vtec h/b would love to run ur "fast cougar." first off...s2000=blow ur doors off. its a low 14's, high 13's car, so ur not even worth its time. u have a video to back urself up? big deal...i'll show u a geo metro whoopin the shit outta a supra...a video's a video, NOT IMPRESSIVE. u run 15.0 most of the time? big whoop...i'll run that with SIMPLE bolts an no backseat. run some imports that actually have something on them...beating a civic isn't impressive AT ALL. im not saying my car is fast by any means, but im not posting wut a "challenge" would be...go out, run some integras or try the new SRT-4's an have fun lookin at their tail lights. :rolleyes:

My cousin owns a 2000 GS-R with the same mods as you except for the v-tech controller. Ive beat him time after time!! Who said running high 14's was impressive....i didnt, so dont put words in my mouth. Oh my best time was 14.47, but that was one hell of a lucky run and havnt been able to do it again so i dont post it often. Also asked for a good challenge BECAUSE people always make fun of me for picking on smaller cars, that has nothing to do with me thinking im all that.:rolleyes:

You say you're from Ohio? Come up to Cleveland and hunt down a certain Prelude I saw running around. (Yep, I think I spotted you on I-480, flywsi) He's stout.

Almost as stout as my baby, Layla. She may be laid up now, but once the bottom end is back in her, lookout. 1400lbs and 170bhp at the rear wheels will destroy any non-V8 Cougar.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


The guy that suggested you run an Integra Type R suggested a good challenge for you...make sure you spray. Quite a few of them have broken into the 13's with just bolt-ons...NO forced-induction. With that in mind, S2000s are FASTER than the ITRs.



OH, yeeeeAAAAAA!!!! that was ME! HA! HAAA!

Originally posted by Octagon
You say you're from Ohio? Come up to Cleveland and hunt down a certain Prelude I saw running around. (Yep, I think I spotted you on I-480, flywsi) He's stout.

Almost as stout as my baby, Layla. She may be laid up now, but once the bottom end is back in her, lookout. 1400lbs and 170bhp at the rear wheels will destroy any non-V8 Cougar.


HMMM, NICE car you own!!!!!!!!! Ill race you in my 1961 MGA 1600 roadster that has a 1800cc engine swap w/ a high flow dohc aluminum intake! I LOVE MG's man, good choice of cars!!

No kidding? Stellar choice, man! I'm jealous, though. You probably can't see the ground through your floorboards. But hey, Layla was $450 out the door. I figure a Stage II rebuild kit from The Proper MG, hardened valve seats for unleaded gas, electronic ignition, copper slimline gaskets, a full rebuild for my Weber, and a hotter cam should take me up to 180-200hp. I know I can get 240hp once I go to dual Webers and a port job.

But I've seen some good prices on Rover V-8's as well. :angel:

Heck yeah! The main point in me swapping was dependability. That is putting in MSD ignition, coil, distributor etc.....Im a little at loss on the transmission though. Can i really use the MGB tranny with the 1800, can i get a better stronger tranny(aftermarket)? Do you still have probs with timing on the MGB GT? Oops this is way of subject, sorry!!

The best Morris Garages tranny I've encountered is the one in my B. The four-speed, non-overdrive box with straight cut gears. Totally bullet proof, though you might want a stronger synchro on 2nd to 3rd. I'm not sure if you can mount them in an A, but I've seen people work them into Midget/Sprites.

Of course, I've seen Midget/Sprites with Mazda RX-7 gearboxes and 13B rotaries, too.

As for timing, she's solid with stock ignition right now. Though as often as she fouls plugs it's hard to tell (the Weber is still dumping raw fuel into the cylinders :( ). My plan for electronic ignition centers around getting more efficient spark to burn the whole lot of fuel and air that a Weber, or two, pumps into the cylinders.

SVT, you go to Mid-Ohio or Nelsons Ledges at anytime?

Ive never gone to mid Ohio but have heard alot about it. Kilcare is the closest to where i live though. When the turbo is put on thats the place that ill will go to!

race a wrx from 0-30. :smoker:

My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!

I might be headed up to the Dayton are this summer. Maybe I can bring my brother's Turbo'd Si. I'm sure that'd give ya a bit of a run...and if he won't let me bring that...I can bring my innocent little Supra

civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~

Originally posted by CougarSVT
My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!


Dude.. do you know what a WRX is??? Turbo, AWD..... vs. your FWD?????? What the..:rolleyes:

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~


First of all, Cougar SVT came off with the notion that he has no competition to give him a good run. And second of all(if you can't read), civicHBsi91 was using an exaggeration of HYBRIDSOL beating CougarSVT in "reverse."

Yeup, the WRX has way more torque than a Cougar, and it has no problems putting the power down, even on Pep Boys tires.

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~

... 93 Ford Probe GT.... yep... only the fastest of racers drive those.... yep.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Ive never gone to mid Ohio but have heard alot about it. Kilcare is the closest to where i live though. When the turbo is put on thats the place that ill will go to!

You should go to Mid Ohio, it is a great track. If you take your car out on it sometime, watch the hard right then hard left after the long rear straightaway, its kinda slippery :)

Try a Turbo Maxima :P

R-1, you took the words out of my mouth. I HATE that combo turn. Up hill right, then downhill left at the end of the front straight. Icky. Wasn't it Patrick Carpentier who flipped it end for end in that corner's gravel trap a year or so ago? Or maybe Michael Andretti?

But it's a driver's course. And quite pretty too, for middle-of-nowhere (read-Lexington) Ohio.

I'm not sure who it was that lost it there at the F1 race, but it is a dangerous combination of turns, that downhill left is so easy to slip your rear out, ofcourse when they SCCA race there that is the best place to sit, since all the cars com into that turn about 3-4 cars wide. But yes, Mid Ohio is a beautiful track, very secluded but what a nice view from the keyhole when you can look down at all the farmlands and stuff.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!

:confused: If your FWD car is strongest off the line like that, then its not as fast as I thought I might be. Off the line the AWD pretty much rules the roost.

91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha

Hur hur hur.....dur fukin idiot they didnt even make si's in auto, and if they are so ugly go checkout the 4g forum which has about the most posts for the honda board and probably one of the most populated forums on AF...retard :bloated:

Ya because the 4g is cheep:p Im not knocking your car but just because alot of people have it dosnt make it good:rolleyes: but im not getting involved in this argument:o

10+ year old cars with 200,000+ miles on them still hangin with the cars of today and gettin better gas mileage nope they suck! :rolleyes:

My 0-60 is 4.6(best) to 5.0(normal)! Its always 65% driver to 35% car, that means they better know how to launch that WRX(not as easy as you think)or they will be playing catchup through the 1/4 mile!! Besides, about the time the WRX was catching up they would have to deal w/ a 50 shot!! Yes ill use the shot if i see necessary, but havnt yet(i just bought it). Besides fellas my cars going in tomorrow for a 8psi boost at itsturbo! Soon i will be the so called "fastest new edge Cougar in my part of the country"!!:silly2: :silly2: :silly2:

:rolleyes: ok...hope ur gonna build ur internals a bit, or that 50 shot an turbo gonna make ur motor go ::boom:: 0-60 in 4.6 seconds an u only run high 14's? is it jus me or does that number sound pretty off...considering my gsr is 0-60 around 6.5 seconds, an i can hit high 14's. ooo...an good luck launching on a wrx...simple physics of it give it a HUGE advantage to launch on u. :rolleyes: but...wuteva..

Ford makes there internals on the Duratech w/ forged componets. Also unlike your car that runs 11:1 compression, mine is only 8:2:1 compression. That = able to handle the extra force!! Besides 8psi is kinda little but will work for now while i build a SVT 2.5L that can handle 15psi or more.

Your car is geared differently fella. Most honda's are good 1/4 mile cars but stink for torque and low rpm HP! Thats just common knowledge in my part of the country!

Originally posted by civicHBsi91


Hur hur hur.....dur fukin idiot they didnt even make si's in auto, and if they are so ugly go checkout the 4g forum which has about the most posts for the honda board and probably one of the most populated forums on AF...retard :bloated:

Yeahhh..The only reason I said ne thing to you is b/c u were getting all up on Cougars nutz...when u don't need to be saying ne thing..and dont talk to me like ur a thug white boy..cause i kno ur not..and so do you..i aint sayin nothing bout ne one elses honda just ur..cause ur running ur mouth when u should be running ur car..and tell ur hillbilly boyfriend he dont need to get into this either.Retard:finger: :bloated:

i said like what 1 thing? and im on his nuts? and redneck is well respected on AF and i didnt even try to be "thug gangster yo" so hows about you get off my nuts there probe boy :flipa:

Sure thing there buddy.. u were like like ohh this car will spank you and this car will spank u..how do u know??? all i'm saying is i didnt like it when u were saying that..i aint got nothing on redneck..or hillbilly or w/e his name is...ha probe boy..its pretty sad when u crack on a car u know whill beat urs! :finger: U wish i was on ur nuts partna..ha later...biotch boy:flipa:

yea a geo could beat my car right now its on jack stands "partna" i didnt even bring up hybridsols car i was replying to how fast both of them actually are, and i said something about the s2000 which would give him good competition if not beat him in a race, and probes are trash they are uglier than the 4g and sure the gt might be quicker if you can drive......

W/e i dont want this to go on forever..so im ending it now.. and ur entitled to ur own opinion..u think probes are "trash" i think most are too unless kept in good condition..honda's are reliable as hell..i think ur car is ugly..cause my best friend had one..and it gave him trouble all the time..now he has a 95 civic with a spoon prelude engine..and i aint bashing it at all...even though the acceleration on my probe is better..but w/e have fun w/ ur lil si..on blocks..there still ugly! Later

Nice to have a fellow Ford man stick up for you....HeHeHe!!!!:machinegu

Damn....about THE nicest GT i've ever seen!! Good job!!!

since he lives in ohio...in the US and the steering wheel is on the RIGHT side.....i dont think its his ;)

Oh...LOL!:smoka:

HAHA and u thought probes were ugly!haah ur shitz ugly!:finger: :badass:

Ever heard of euro tags..and the pic is flipped smart azz!

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
Ever heard of euro tags..and the pic is flipped smart azz!


Umm Hey...if the Pic was fliped the plate letters would be backwards... Its a Euro car... Unless you spent some cash to put your butt on on the wrong side...

First off...PrimeGT and civic and everyone else, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Drop it ALL. If you guys want to fight and argue and be idiots do it on your time, get each others AIM s/ns or something:rolleyes: But ENOUGH on this board. Next...


Originally posted by CougarSVT
My 0-60 is 4.6(best) to 5.0(normal)! Its always 65% driver to 35% car, that means they better know how to launch that WRX(not as easy as you think)or they will be playing catchup through the 1/4 mile!! Besides, about the time the WRX was catching up they would have to deal w/ a 50 shot!! Yes ill use the shot if i see necessary, but havnt yet(i just bought it). Besides fellas my cars going in tomorrow for a 8psi boost at itsturbo! Soon i will be the so called "fastest new edge Cougar in my part of the country"!!:silly2: :silly2: :silly2:

EXPLAIN YOURSELF...A 4.6 0-60?? And you said it runs a 5.0 0-60 stock? How is it you can have a 0-60 more than a second quicker than a stock Z28(5.7) which runs a high 13/low 14 quarter?? I'm going to need you to explain that please...:rolleyes:

Oh... Before you go off and start calling people stupid, or that their particular car is ugly. You might want to do some spell check and definately some grammar check. Cause all we're doing here is laughing at your well written Engrish home slice.


And just because you knew somebody who had a car similar to civicHB91's that had some problems, doesn't mead diddly squat. Every manufacture has cars that come from the factory that are lemons... Big deal, Lets move on.


And for the record, Ford Probes of any trim level are nice... but they definately are not all that and a bag of chips... Fo-sheezy. So why don't you just cool it and respect what other people have to say?


:bloated:

Do what?? Where do you live in Ohio...Columbus?

Ok kewl w/ me sorry didnt know it was english class..I know there are lemons..but this subject Dropped w/ me!

Right below round lancaster..nicccccce..my friend just bought a new cougar but its an automatic..still nice though.

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
Ever heard of euro tags..and the pic is flipped smart azz!

Like Redneck said, the pic definitely isn't flipped. So you either dropped serious cash into the car to get it to be right-hand drive or...

Here it is flipped to the "right way" if we use your logic...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/675875veilsideprobeFLIPPED.jpg

Steerin wheels on the left side..not right????

Looks like it though doesnt it..
:confused:

EXPLAIN YOURSELF...A 4.6 0-60?? And you said it runs a 5.0 0-60 stock? How is it you can have a 0-60 more than a second quicker than a stock Z28(5.7) which runs a high 13/low 14 quarter?? I'm going to need you to explain that please...:rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE


No no no, sorry i meant "normal" as in that i could run that just about any day(w/ the correct staging done to my tires). I didnt mean stock, they run near 7.5 sec stock (hehehe)! Ive also dropped 218lbs from my car to help w/ these #'s!!

Now im not being a smart ass but just because the Stang can run 14's doesnt mean its going to have a incredable 0-60 time. You cant base a car thats running 14's is going to have a good takeoff (or 60ft time). This eaven falls into the same bracket as the top speed at the 1/4 mile. Some cars will show a low top speed but still pull really good 1/4 mile time.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
EXPLAIN YOURSELF...A 4.6 0-60?? And you said it runs a 5.0 0-60 stock? How is it you can have a 0-60 more than a second quicker than a stock Z28(5.7) which runs a high 13/low 14 quarter?? I'm going to need you to explain that please...:rolleyes: [/QUOTE


No no no, sorry i meant "normal" as in that i could run that just about any day(w/ the correct staging done to my tires). I didnt mean stock, they run near 7.5 sec stock (hehehe)! Ive also dropped 218lbs from my car to help w/ these #'s!!

Now im not being a smart ass but just because the Stang can run 14's doesnt mean its going to have a incredable 0-60 time. You cant base a car thats running 14's is going to have a good takeoff (or 60ft time). This eaven falls into the same bracket as the top speed at the 1/4 mile. Some cars will show a low top speed but still pull really good 1/4 mile time. [/B]

Z28 is a Camaro:D
But anyways...So you run a 4.6 0-60 time...What is your quarter?? I thought you said in the 14s? The Z28 runs a 5.7 0-06 and can run a quarter in the 13s. So how do you have a second quicker 0-60, and a slower quarter mile? Missing some gears or something? I'm highly confused:confused:

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
Steerin wheels on the left side..not right????

The steering wheel is on the RIGHT in the original pic you posted. When someone asked you about it, you said that the pic was flipped. In the picture I posted, I flipped it using Photoshop. BUT, the pic I posted is obviously BACKWARDS as the license plates aren't correct.

Oh, and you can use the "edit" function on the bottom right side of your posts to change and add information so you don't have to make an entirely new post each time:)

You just answerd your own question!! Its all in gearing!! The Cougar is NOT geared very well at all(damn it).

No its on the right side. Believe me i know

Originally posted by CougarSVT
You just answerd your own question!! Its all in gearing!! The Cougar is NOT geared very well at all(damn it).

So what mods have you done to this car again? That's not the fault of the gears, you must have changed them, as the stock 0-60 is closer to 7 seconds...What gear ratio are you using to outrun a Corvette 0-60???:confused:

Ok we want more pics!!!:D

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
No its on the right side. Believe me i know

So is it or is it not your car? That's what this is about...:confused:

No no, gears play a HUGE part in racing. Why do you think they change them all the time to 3.73 gears? Better 1/4 mile times!

Originally posted by CougarSVT
No no, gears play a HUGE part in racing. Why do you think they change them all the time to 3.73 gears? Better 1/4 mile times!

I know all about gears...So what ratio do YOU have in your car to pull a 0-60 better than a Corvette?

Advance timing and programmed Maf are also a big play w/ my 0-60 times.

no its not my car didnt say it was

Stock gears, no one has a upgrade out there for the Cat. Just full posi!!!!!!

Hes right, i dont recall him saying it was. Just took a minute for him to say it WASNT his.

Sorry i thought the arguement was over the steering wheel side and CivicSi saying probes suck and stuff so no it isnt my GT wish it was but am getting same body kit...by veilslide.:flash:

Hey "self", you sound like you need a Turbo on your car! Ive got a new T4 Garrett for you that would boost you into the 11's(easy)!!

Think we could fit that on a Probe??lol
:D

PrimetimeGt...No prob, I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that Probe was yours. Right on with the kit, it's really nice. How much though? I know Veilside gets OUTRAGEOUS with their prices sometimes...

CougarSVT...So a timing advance and a mass airflow sensor chopped almost 3 seconds from your 0-60? In that case you should be racing Corvette's only:rolleyes:

I sound like I need a turbo? What makes you say that? I'm already in the 10s, you're a little bit late:)

It's cool... do you know of anyone with a turbo that will fit my car? self or cougar?The kit doesnt come out until this spring so i'm sure an arm and a leg.

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
It's cool... do you know of anyone with a turbo that will fit my car? self or cougar?The kit doesnt come out until this spring so i'm sure an arm and a leg.

Not sure of a kit, but turbo's are universal. Talk to the people at Garret or TKT to find a turbo that is properly sized for your engine and mods. After you have the turbo, you just need to piece together the rest of the system and have piping done. Won't be cheap either way, but you could do it custom for less than the kit will probably cost.

Originally posted by Self


Not sure of a kit, but turbo's are universal. Talk to the people at Garret or TKT to find a turbo that is properly sized for your engine and mods. After you have the turbo, you just need to piece together the rest of the system and have piping done. Won't be cheap either way, but you could do it custom for less than the kit will probably cost.

How do i get ahold or garret and tkt..so i could use a turbo off an eagle talon tsi..does the tranny matter?

you can use whatever turbo you want or that will fit, i thought probes came turbo.....or was that the old body style?

No the older ones before 93 i think came w/ turbos.. but they don't now so ne one fits..sweet!:flash: Know of ne where ,where i could get a cheap one?

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
No the older ones before 93 i think came w/ turbos.. but they don't now so ne one fits..sweet!:flash:

Yeap, I know they did. I used to have a 89 Mazda Mx6 GT Turbo with a turbo upgrade from TKT, 250whp:D

You probably know probes and Mx6s are one in the same.

turbo out of a conquest would do ya too, or out of a turbo coupe, 1st gen dsm, im gonna try and go 14b when i boost....or maybe even small 16g :D

So go conquest..those turbos are prolly cheap n easy to get ahold of huh.

yea ide say about 50 bucks or less....around here anyway shouldent cost much, just make sure its in good condition

Im me primetime Gt. No they are not cheap! Try from $300-$700!! I have a huge hookup for Turbo's and intercoolers etc...

Oh going that route(used)....try Ebay!!!

No they are not cheap! Try from $300-$700!! I have a huge hookup for Turbo's and intercoolers etc... umm....sure whatever you say pal

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No disrespect but NO stock Cougar will run under 16.0 1/4 mi. Check the stats on the cat first. It takes a shit load of bolt ons to make them run good, and some weight lose helps to. 2850lbs+170HP=16.1 1/4 mile!


93-97 Probe GT
stock
164hp
160lbs of torque
2800 pounds
I've seen stock GT's go 15 flat and most of the guys that can drive em get a 15.2 easily maybe you just dont know how to use your power?

Originally posted by Prober 4 life


93-97 Probe GT
stock
164hp
160lbs of torque
2800 pounds
I've seen stock GT's go 15 flat and most of the guys that can drive em get a 15.2 easily maybe you just dont know how to use your power?

He said no COUGAR, not Probe.

Originally posted by Prober 4 life


93-97 Probe GT
stock
164hp
160lbs of torque
2800 pounds
I've seen stock GT's go 15 flat and most of the guys that can drive em get a 15.2 easily maybe you just dont know how to use your power?
So my stock probe could run that?? thats good 4 stock.. i think. do u have ne extra turbos layin around that will fit my probe? :)

Originally posted by civicHBsi91
umm....sure whatever you say pal


Now your just trying to fight with me. I dont lie my friend so you can chill on the imature remarks. Try looking up "itsturbo.net"...yes the same company i am buying into this summer. If you want a hookup thats fine...if not then dont post remarks like that!! And i dont sell or deal with used or rebuilt parts primetimeGT sorry. If i can help you out w/ any performance parts let me know!

Uh, what stock probe can outrun a 2000 GSR thats modded?? NONE! So no stock probe will run that my friend, and i mean no disrespect just letting you know.

Be more specific about that 4.6 second 0-60, please. I'm very interested.

This goes along w/ the same reason you may have one car run a 13.2 1/4 @ 100MPH and the other run 13.6 1/4 @ 112MPH!!! Just think about it.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
This goes along w/ the same reason you may have one car run a 13.2 1/4 @ 100MPH and the other run 13.6 1/4 @ 112MPH!!! Just think about it.

BUT this means...that u'd have no problems, with the MODS U'VE LISTED beating a stock vette or camaro 0-60. :rolleyes: im sorry, but that is jus tough to believe...simply cuz u'd have to hit a damned wall after 60mph to run only a 14.5-15.0

Originally posted by CougarSVT
This goes along w/ the same reason you may have one car run a 13.2 1/4 @ 100MPH and the other run 13.6 1/4 @ 112MPH!!! Just think about it.

What? That makes no sense. The reason you see times like that are because of traction problems most of the time. You quite frankly just DO NOT HAVE THE POWER to run a 4.6 0-60. I could see MAYBE if you were running a 7.51:1 gear ratio(YEA RIGHT, impossible:rolleyes:) AND you had metal wheels running on a magnetic track:rolleyes: :rolleyes: then MAYBE you could pull a 4.6 0-60:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00


BUT this means...that u'd have no problems, with the MODS U'VE LISTED beating a stock vette or camaro 0-60. :rolleyes: im sorry, but that is jus tough to believe...simply cuz u'd have to hit a damned wall after 60mph to run only a 14.5-15.0

That's exactly what I'm saying man. You'd basically have to come to a complete stop and then start again to get numbers like that:rolleyes:

C-mon man just think about it!! Gearing/top end power can cause alot of headache with my car. Why do you think i chose a Turbo!! This all should be common knowledge if you paid any attention to drag races. Why does one guy have a horrid trap speed but end up kicking ass in the 1/4 mile!

Do you have any clue what a stock Cougar run(0-60)???? obviously not!!




Besides Self, you were spitting some kind of calculations that ended up not making any since yesterday when i brought up different cars that weight about the same and have about the same HP's (Type-R). What are you just wanting to argue or just saying you will agree to disagree?

Originally posted by CougarSVT
C-mon man just think about it!! Gearing/top end power can cause alot of headache with my car. Why do you think i chose a Turbo!! This all should be common knowledge if you paid any attention to drag races. Why does one guy have a horrid trap speed but end up kicking ass in the 1/4 mile!


have you ever thought about the customcougars turbo? Looks like a nice setup. True on the pricy side but they got like 270 hp i belive at around 7 psi when their stock cluch gave up.

Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!! He had catystrofic events happen to his internals!!! Horrable things went wrong w/ his setup....real bad. Blew a piston apart!! Nice looking car though, wide body kit and all!



Sorry man im naynay on Neco!! Im involved with "itsturbo.net".

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!! He had catystrofic events happen to his internals!!! Horrable things went wrong w/ his setup....real bad. Blew a piston apart!! Nice looking car though, wide body kit and all!



Sorry man im naynay on Neco!! Im involved with "itsturbo.net".

really never head of that. That sucks when your engine blows up:( Btw do you have any ideea why everytime i sign up for neco i never get the email to get the password. I tried like a million times.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!! He had catystrofic events happen to his internals!!! Horrable things went wrong w/ his setup....real bad. Blew a piston apart!! Nice looking car though, wide body kit and all!



Sorry man im naynay on Neco!! Im involved with "itsturbo.net".

I might be wrong but all those guys run together customcougars & projectcougar on Neco.

Are you the one that setup your email account? If not they may have done something wrong with "reply mail", it could be going somewhere else. But not sure, its pretty rough over there man, alot of motor Gods!

What is the stock 0-60? I read somewhere around 7 seconds...
You have 20 more hp than stock and STOCK gears yet you claim to run a 4.6 0-60(BETTER than a CORVETTE). You have YET TO EXPLAIN how that is possible...I'm sorry, but I'm not going for it until you lay down some solid facts about how it is you accomplished it. Do you not realize how fast a 4.6 0-60 is?? How did you do it with 20hp and stock gearing? :confused:

If you're not sure how fast that is, here are some comparisons of other cars' 0-60 times.

Ferrari 360 Modena = 4.5s
Ferrari 550 Maranello = 4.2s
Camaro Z28(LS1) = 5.7s
Corvette Z06 = 4.7s
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish = 4.6s

I can give more if neccessary? How is it you keep up with these supercars with 200whp and stock gearing?:confused:

CougarSVT, I am sorry , but you are full of shit.
you don't have that kind of power/weight/gear ratio to beat a corvette 0-60.
with 200whp. FWD, and 2941lb (assume it is a v6)
you do the math.

Originally posted by EJ20
CougarSVT, I am sorry , but you are full of shit.
you don't have that kind of power/weight/gear ratio to beat a corvette 0-60.
with 200whp. FWD, and 2941lb (assume it is a v6)
you do the math.


WORDDDD.... finally someone said it.


Stock ITR's run high 14's in the 1/4, and around a 6.5 0-60..... There you go.. FWD, 190 horse car. Pretty close to your car(closer than a Camaro at least). So please explain how you can possibly run a "4.6" or whatever. And actually break it down technically and explain and dont just give me an irrelevant fact and tell me to think about it. I've tried to be pretty nice about it so far.. so either explain in great detail how you can run a 4.6 or fess up to the truth.

And how do you know you even ran a 4.6? Go to a drag strip??? Let's see the slip.

a jet propelled Yugo

Originally posted by Self
What is the stock 0-60? I read somewhere around 7 seconds...
You have 20 more hp than stock and STOCK gears yet you claim to run a 4.6 0-60(BETTER than a CORVETTE). You have YET TO EXPLAIN how that is possible...I'm sorry, but I'm not going for it until you lay down some solid facts about how it is you accomplished it. Do you not realize how fast a 4.6 0-60 is?? How did you do it with 20hp and stock gearing? :confused:

Self is right you have yet to explain yourself clearly, and the stock 0-60 times are around 7.5 to 8 sec but closer to 8 and with 14.5-15.0 sec 1/4 you're not going to get 4.6 0-60 unless you have more power in conjunction with a set of lower gears.

Basiaclly the 4.6 0-60 time is the result of the use of a stopwatch while attempting to drive and watch the speedo right? Extremely inaccurate, too easy to hit the start button abit after your rolling eh?

Blah blah blah blah!! Thats all im hearing guys. You then explain why a car that beat another in a race can run a slower time(MPH) than the one that lost. You cant can you!! Once again common knowledge when speaking about drag races. My car stock fellas has 170HP...where are you getting just 20hp gain over stock?? Are you putting words in my mouth again? My horse power now is near 225HP(give or take a HP). Do your math again!!!!! ONCE again i dont qoute that 0-60 time very often because of this, my everyday time is near a Mustang(thats modded around 5.1-5.3 0-60). If you guys have the fast cars you say you do and cant break into the 4's at 0-60 then you cant drive.....period!! If you think you can drive a 5-speed then i want to see you bang through the gears w/out letting go of the gas! I can, and have proven this to MANY that dought it. Thats the one thing i am VERY good at!! Thanks! I live for doughters...thats why im getting boosted. Because they said it cant be done. HA! Its being done as we speak.:thumbup:

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Thanks! I live for doughters...thats why im getting boosted. : [/B]



Do "doughters" make dounuts? mmmmmmm Im hungry.

doughters... you mean Doubters?

Ok lets look at the facts you've told us...

Stock Cougar V6
165hp/165tq
2900lbs
0-60 in 7.8 Seconds
1/4 in 16 Seconds

Your Moddified Cougar V6
225hp/who knows on Tq
2500lbs as you told me online
0-60 in 4.6
1/4 in the High 14s
With stock Transmission and Gears

I hope you can see why we are skeptical...

Only increased about 60hp... and shaved some 400lbs off the car... How did you do that exactly?

But Yet you shave almost 2 full seconds off your 0-60, which puts you into the 'super car' category for accleration yet you can only pull down a High 14 second pass at the end of a 1/4 mile.

Its very hard to believe that the car can travel so fast yet be so slow... you know?

Oh, and yes some of us do have fast cars... and yes some of us do know how to drive... Telling us we cant drive wont do you any good. :p

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Blah blah blah blah!! Thats all im hearing guys. You then explain why a car that beat another in a race can run a slower time(MPH) than the one that lost. You cant can you!! Once again common knowledge when speaking about drag races. My car stock fellas has 170HP...where are you getting just 20hp gain over stock?? Are you putting words in my mouth again? My horse power now is near 225HP(give or take a HP). Do your math again!!!!! ONCE again i dont qoute that 0-60 time very often because of this, my everyday time is near a Mustang(thats modded around 5.1-5.3 0-60). If you guys have the fast cars you say you do and cant break into the 4's at 0-60 then you cant drive.....period!! If you think you can drive a 5-speed then i want to see you bang through the gears w/out letting go of the gas! I can, and have proven this to MANY that dought it. Thats the one thing i am VERY good at!! Thanks! I live for doughters...thats why im getting boosted. Because they said it cant be done. HA! Its being done as we speak.:thumbup:

You haven't explained anything...And I log all of my AIM convos. The other day in the chatroom with redneck and myself you said your car had 205hp STOCK. Now it's magically changed to 170hp?? Either way, I was assuming you have 225hp. All I'm asking is for you to please please PLEASE, explain exactly what it is about your car that allows it to run almost 3 seconds quicker than the stock version in the 0-60? How can you outrun a Corvette Z06 with 405hp and hang right with an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish? That's all I'm asking, please please PLEASE, let us all in on how you do that??? And the gains from shifting through the gas is neglible, definitely won't gain you 3 seconds, I guaran-damn-tee you of that. I KNOW I can get my car to run a 4 second 0-60, it's YOUR car I have a problem believing can do that:) So let us all in on the secret? Or admit you're either lying or horribly mistaken...

Oh, and FYI, 99.99% of the time a car has a better quarter mile time than another but a lower MPH, it's due to traction. Common knowledge that the quicker you hook up the lower you mph is going to be but the higher your ET. Example, my cars once ran something like a 14.4@102 and then a 13.9@99.8x(don't remember exactly but something like that). See there? That's because I had a GARBAGE launch on the first run, which accounts for the slower ET, but a higher MPH.
So you have still proven NOT A DAMN THING:rolleyes:

Blah blah blah blah!! Thats all im hearing guys.
That sound you hear is coming out of your own ass.



Be technical with your explanation of how you can achieve such a quick 0-60 time or STFU.

And what is Venom 400???? Your nitrous system?


Oh yea, how do you measure your 0-60 time?

Oh, and FYI, 99.99% of the time a car has a better quarter mile time than another but a lower MPH, it's due to traction. Common knowledge that the quicker you hook up the lower you mph is going to be but the higher your ET. Example, my cars once ran something like a 14.4@102 and then a 13.9@99.8x(don't remember exactly but something like that). See there? That's because I had a GARBAGE launch on the first run, which accounts for the slower ET, but a higher MPH.
So you have still proven NOT A DAMN THING:rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]


Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Nice try dude. Horrably WRONG! Yes traction is a big part but definatly absolutely not the reason. Do some research first.

Please look up what Venom actually does. They do not make just nitrous. Its a piggyback fuel system. Along w/ my specially flashed chip. Along w/ my programmed Maf. All that together my friends do wonders for your car. Meaning advanced timing, extra fuel, upped redline, extra air.....god i could go on. When you do ANY performance modding to a OBD-II or OBD-III computer controlled car you must and ill repeat MUST reprogram either your chip and or PCM. Those mods on your car WILL NOT do the job they were intended to unless the PCM is able to recognize those mods properly. I run my car perposely very rich to achieve my good times, i actually blow flames after shifting. By doing this you must have the high output from the Ignition. That explaines the MSD Dig. ignition.

Ill have more when i put my kids to bed!!


:devil:

u still aren't expaining why ur lower gears manage those numbers...even if u put 225 to the flywheel (im assuming this) u aren't going to be putting down those numbers...u haven't answered ANYTHING, u simply make come-backs about how little we know...well, then explain HOW YOU TIME UR 0-60 for ur car, and how ur going to hit a wall after the 60mph mark an only run mid 14's. nobody's trying to flame u, but ur thowing out a pretty impressive number, an seem to side-step our ACTUAL questions the entire time...so for now ur full of bs still :rolleyes:

ooo...an u jus say we're wrong, yet u don't explain the quicker times w/ lower mph...com'n man...quit throwin out useless crap an actually answer questions...

well dang.. next time I wanna run the 0-60 in under 5 seconds I'll consult my OBD CPU, and My MAF Sensors and my Flux Compacitor..... Oh wait... My car doesnt have those.. its Carburated... I guess I cant go as fast as the Cougar with all its technological gizzmos.

:bloated:

I could have real fun with this guy, however I think I will take it easy for awhile atleast.

ok just to correct some of your specs you listed about your car stock:
HP: 170 @6250rpms
trq: 165 @4250rpms
curb weight: 3013 (assuming it isnt the V6 sport trim)

Now I would also like to bring to the light that the cougar is a FWD car, so again, even with 225hp and 2500lb car, you still would never EVER come near to hitting the 0-60 times you are saying.

You can switch gears while holding down the gas pedal? oh my, I can hear the clutch grinding away in my head. Why don't you be like Vin Diesel and double clutch like you should (sorry had too). Why don't you take your car to the track and try to heal/toe shift while ducking into a corner breaking and downshifting then accelerate out of it without missing a heartbeat, but I am sure you can right?

The launch is the most important part of any drag race, as it is decided by reaction time, if you bogged, if you lost traction, etc. If you do not get a clean launch, you can lose anywhere up to 2 seconds on your ETA.

Um, if you are throwing flames out your tailpipe, you are running way to rich, in which case you are sacrificing the quality of the burn you get every time it fires. So I would look into getting your engine rebuilt every 15K miles as you will have a host of problems if you chose not too.

Ok, now I hope at this point you will realize that you do not make the power you said, do not run the times you said, and probably cant even drive as good as you have said. But besides that alone, you have given no history of the modifications you have done to your car indepth, besides having a Venom 400, which cannot even come close alone to giving you 225hp. Now I can give you exact stats of my bikes, runs at AMA races at my track I competed, runs at the dragstrip, dynos of my bike, and even could get you the phone number of the company that helped me tune my motorcycle. So again, when you are ready to put up the proof (that we know doesnt exist) that you car can perform the way you say it does, then I am sure we will raise you off the forum status of TROLL that you have placed yourself into.

And yes, I did take it easy on you.

i know i figured it out.....its the short shifter fellas ;)

Oh my goodness...I swear...children and the internet:rolleyes:.

Okay, assuming you actually have 225HP, and from what I'm hearing, you've been telling people that your car weighs in at about 2500LBS now...

Originally posted by CougarSVT


Ive also dropped 218lbs from my car to help w/ these #'s!!



...although I don't see how 218LBS taken from your car's stock 2892LBS according to Edmunds.com (http://edmunds.com/used/2000/mercury/cougar/955/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.ratings.leftsidenav..7.Me rcury*) equals 2500LBS...

Anywho...assuming that your car really weighs 2500LBS and you have 225HP, you are carrying 11.1LBS-per-HP.

Now, let's take a car that you should be beating, at least 0-60, since this car ONLY runs a 5.2 0-60:

2002 Camaro SS (stats from car-stats.com)
3300LBS (actually slightly lighter)
320HP (conservative estimate)

This car carries 10.3HP-per-LB.

Well?

SRT-4 has 250 at the wheel and weight 2970 lb can't even pull close to 4 sec range.........
you must be the best driver in the whole wide world.....

and you are still full of shit,,,,,
btw , stop watch does not count

Originally posted by CougarSVT

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Nice try dude. Horrably WRONG! Yes traction is a big part but definatly absolutely not the reason. Do some research first.
:devil:
So what is it then???
I don't care about the Venom and all of that...But what mods gained you all of your hp? And how did you deduce your 0-60? And please stop sidestepping the questions and telling us how dumb we are and just prvide some damn facts as to how you ran a 4.6 supercarish 0-60!

:rolleyes:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/+junk/arguing.jpg

Give it up this guy isn't going to admit he is wrong in front of everyone, one of those pride issues. Eventually this will just come down to slanderous spam and completely off topic.

Originally posted by DeViL
Give it up this guy isn't going to admit he is wrong in front of everyone, one of those pride issues. Eventually this will just come down to slanderous spam and completely off topic.


Word.. I can't believe we put up with this guy for so long... ack.... oh well.. check out how fast the thread grew!!!!

with the few little mods he has there is no way he is hitting 225 horse power. he might be getting 200 at the crank. which means nothing. FWHP is the number that matters just b/c your engine puts out 200 HP doesn't mean crap.

and hey NAYNAY i mean cougarSVT i thought you were selling the car and not getting the turbo?

Maybe he has Vtech :flipa: i mean the new NSX Type R can beat a SL55AMG which has 550hp as apposed to 280hp it can also beat a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR VSPEC II (i still don't believe the video the Skyline driver must've been purposefully losing or something)

o wait his car isn't an NSX o wait it isn't a Honda that would explain the Vtech then .............


No cougars do infact suck :finger: or you can disprove this theory by getting your time slips out and posting them ...


in the mean time :finger:

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens


What stage are you at?

My buddy (before he sold it) was at Stage V+

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens


My buddy (before he sold it) was at Stage V+


Um.. did I miss something?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Oh my goodness...I swear...children and the internet:rolleyes:.

Okay, [b]assuming you actually have 225HP, and from what I'm hearing, you've been telling people that your car weighs in at about 2500LBS now...



...although I don't see how 218LBS taken from your car's stock 2892LBS according to Edmunds.com (http://edmunds.com/used/2000/mercury/cougar/955/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.ratings.leftsidenav..7.Me rcury*) equals 2500LBS...

Yes the car weighs that stock....ive gutted her! You little people that think you know all call Carson at itsturbo and see what his opinion is on this subject. He laughed when i said you guys dont think my #'s are not correct. Hes a professional that builds 12.9 1/4 Neons and 700HP GT's so go ahead and argue w/ him. This is about retarded guys. And buy the way im a 28 year old that is married and have children so id appreciate NOT being called a child. I explained what ive done to my computer but you boys didnt grasp that one. Oh well!

:flipa:

Well we appreciate the computer info.. but you failed to teach us how you got a 4.6 0-60 time with minor modifications... none of which are to the transmission or the final gear ratio.


Untill that moment... we still cant believe you.


And.... Good for Carson for building such cool cars... yep... its very rare to see 700hp V8s :rolleyes: :D

u still...lol...u wonder why we call u a child? cuz u make witty-child like comebacks. "yea...well a guy i kno...builds...blah blah blah" HOW ARE U PUTTING DOWN A 4.6 0-60 W/ ONLY 225 HP IN A 2500LB CAR? that is the question. simple as that. u may be a parent, an a lil older, but that doesn't make u an intelligent human being :rolleyes:

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
u still...lol...u wonder why we call u a child? cuz u make witty-child like comebacks. "yea...well a guy i kno...builds...blah blah blah" HOW ARE U PUTTING DOWN A 4.6 0-60 W/ ONLY 225 HP IN A 2500LB CAR? that is the question. simple as that. u may be a parent, an a lil older, but that doesn't make u an intelligent human being :rolleyes:


Really...ok! I have given you the facts but you cant follow them. I also have no emisions around here, that means i dont have the crap on the car that most do. What the heck does my final gear have anything to do w/ my 0-60 time? Ive been doing this for over 12 years, im not a newby or some half witted dipshit that thinks he knows all. Im involved w/ a performance shop and screw with cars all the damn time, this is the reason i mention Carson. Its called letting the little Integra guy that had SOMEONE else put on his performance parts that im not some BS talker. I know what im doing and saying, i DONT know all but i know enough to work at a Turbo shop and have the boost on my car. I dont mind agreeing to dissagreeing so im leaving it at that! Ill argue some other day w/ you guys. And as for the Integra boy...come on over to Dayton Ohio and ill blow that little four banger off the track. Just like i do any other GSR!! Thats a fact that i can prove:flipa:


Like i have posted before i havnt posted all the stuff ive done to the cat so please stop saying "minor" modifications, that makes me laugh actually.

Why dont you tell us how you measured this 0-60 time? Its not to hard is it? You still have refused. Did you count it off in your head, one one thousand two one thousand ect...?

LOL!!! Sorry, G-tech!

Originally posted by R1-rider
I could have real fun with this guy, however I think I will take it easy for awhile atleast.

1)ok just to correct some of your specs you listed about your car stock:
HP: 170 @6250rpms
trq: 165 @4250rpms
curb weight: 3013 (assuming it isnt the V6 sport trim)

2)Now I would also like to bring to the light that the cougar is a FWD car, so again, even with 225hp and 2500lb car, you still would never EVER come near to hitting the 0-60 times you are saying.

3)You can switch gears while holding down the gas pedal? oh my, I can hear the clutch grinding away in my head. Why don't you be like Vin Diesel and double clutch like you should (sorry had too). Why don't you take your car to the track and try to heal/toe shift while ducking into a corner breaking and downshifting then accelerate out of it without missing a heartbeat, but I am sure you can right?

4)The launch is the most important part of any drag race, as it is decided by reaction time, if you bogged, if you lost traction, etc. If you do not get a clean launch, you can lose anywhere up to 2 seconds on your ETA.

5)Um, if you are throwing flames out your tailpipe, you are running way to rich, in which case you are sacrificing the quality of the burn you get every time it fires. So I would look into getting your engine rebuilt every 15K miles as you will have a host of problems if you chose not too.

6)Ok, now I hope at this point you will realize that you do not make the power you said, do not run the times you said, and probably cant even drive as good as you have said. But besides that alone, you have given no history of the modifications you have done to your car indepth, besides having a Venom 400, which cannot even come close alone to giving you 225hp. Now I can give you exact stats of my bikes, runs at AMA races at my track I competed, runs at the dragstrip, dynos of my bike, and even could get you the phone number of the company that helped me tune my motorcycle. So again, when you are ready to put up the proof (that we know doesnt exist) that you car can perform the way you say it does, then I am sure we will raise you off the forum status of TROLL that you have placed yourself into.

7)And yes, I did take it easy on you.

1) your #'s are off babe, try 2850lbs for stock!! next
2)um...front wheel cars really do better than rear!! Added engine weight to the FRONT tires. Sheesh....next.
3)I dont road race or "track race". 1/4 mile at a time only. Next
4)reaction time is most important, not just traction. You need to ask someone educated in drags before posting something about what is important in drag racing. Your probably the same guy that thinks you should take your car to redline when racing.LOL!!!
5)the car was setup for nitrous so yes it does at the moment do that. And it is less harmful to your car than running lean(like most imported modded cars). Carbon deposits would be my long term killing(if i actually kept it like that).
6) LOL....ok daddy!
7)LOL again!! Bring your knowledge brother. Dont throw out things you dont know what your talking about though.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
LOL!!! Sorry, G-tech!


G-tech eh? Hmm not that accurate, really only consistent to its self.



Actually, rear wheel drive is better if your pushing any HP, weight transfer to the rear tires upon launch providing traction ect.. And reaction time is only important in a racing competition, no issue for gettting a good 1/4 time since it does not factor into your times.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0



G-tech eh? Hmm not that accurate, really only consistent to its self.



Actually, rear wheel drive is better if your pushing any HP, weight transfer to the rear tires upon launch providing traction ect.. And reaction time is only important in a racing competition, no issue for gettting a good 1/4 time since it does not factor into your times.

Wait wait wait I just asked this and every one said weight tranfers not an issue its power transfer that kills you whenn you have a Fwd car?

Originally posted by RACER D12


Wait wait wait I just asked this and every one said weight tranfers not an issue its power transfer that kills you whenn you have a Fwd car?




IM not sure who every one is, but basic physics the weight is going to go opposite the forward force.

Originally posted by CougarSVT



Really...ok! I have given you the facts but you cant follow them. I also have no emisions around here, that means i dont have the crap on the car that most do. What the heck does my final gear have anything to do w/ my 0-60 time? Ive been doing this for over 12 years, im not a newby or some half witted dipshit that thinks he knows all. Im involved w/ a performance shop and screw with cars all the damn time, this is the reason i mention Carson. Its called letting the little Integra guy that had SOMEONE else put on his performance parts that im not some BS talker. I know what im doing and saying, i DONT know all but i know enough to work at a Turbo shop and have the boost on my car. I dont mind agreeing to dissagreeing so im leaving it at that! Ill argue some other day w/ you guys. And as for the Integra boy...come on over to Dayton Ohio and ill blow that little four banger off the track. Just like i do any other GSR!! Thats a fact that i can prove:flipa:

Like i have posted before i havnt posted all the stuff ive done to the cat so please stop saying "minor" modifications, that makes me laugh actually.

Well, I'm 28 too. I've been street-racing since I was 14, starting with my uncle's Gemini (never sold here in the States, related to the the 280Z, I believe...all I know is it was green and it was quick), and even my dad's Oldsmobile with the big-block swap when I was still in the Philippines. I started here in the U.S. in Sacramento back in 1992, driving for my friends (I had no car of my own). Among my list of friends include one of the first people in this state (AZ) to have a DOHC engine swap done on a Honda Civic (1994). He has his own shop now. I have owned a car from practically every major car manufacturer selling in the U.S. except for Mitsubishi.

Now, reading the above...none of that crap qualifies me to be believable when I make ANY kind of statement, true or not. Whatever qualification I might bring to the table, doesn't imply that I am automatically speaking the truth. You have to quantify what you've said. Now, you said in response to SVT that you measured your claimed times with a G-Tech. Fine. You say you have more than what you have claimed in your sig. Cool. Bottomline is, none of it still adds up. I have seen a 300+ wheel-HP Civic run "only" a 15-flat. It's mostly because of traction issues, mind you, but are you telling me that without major suspension mods, you have solved the riddle of FWD traction issues where you can outlaunch a WRX with basically the same HP as you claim to have? Hell, a stock WRX can outlanch a Corvette Z06 till 30MPH if the WRX driver knew how to launch! You're telling me that you can outlaunch that?!

If you don't find the above statements I made about launching (i.e. your car VS a WRX VS a Z06) incredulous, then you don't know HALF of what you claim to know. Hell, you barely even know how to spell most of the mods you put in your car! Didn't you read the package?

Oh, and about your statement that

Originally posted by CougarSVT

reaction time is most important, not just traction. You need to ask someone educated in drags before posting something about what is important in drag racing. Your probably the same guy that thinks you should take your car to redline when racing.LOL!!!

Listen to your own advice and "You need to ask someone educated in drags before posting something about what is important in drag racing". Also, there are some cars that REQUIRE you to take them to redline to get the most out of them. A good example is a Honda S2000 or an Integra Type R...but you knew that, right:rolleyes:?

i'd bring my gsr to dayton...an unless u spray, ur not gonna be too far ahead of me. with my SIMPLE (i/h/e/clutch=newb mods) i'll keep up w/ ur "fast cougar"

u act like some lil kno-it all, when u don't kno the 1st thing about drag racing at a track...1st, REACTION TIME MEANS SHIT! u could sit there for 20 seconds, then go an still run the same time if u got a .6 R/T. 2nd, fwd is better then rwd? :rolleyes: since when? think of the physics of it...as u go forward...where does ur weight go? uh...backwards? an u have NO suspension mod's so...ur car jus magically can out-launch rwd?

ok...i had ppl put things on? rite...cuz u kno its SOOOO difficult to put on i/h/e :rolleyes:

as for "any gsr." i'd like to see ur "blow" some of my friens cars away...hrmmm...but that's rite we're jus lil 4 bangers rite? plz...ur an ignorant fool if u think u can beat all an own all jus cuz u have a V6. especially considering it TAKES a V6 for ur car STOCK VS STOCK to have the same power as a gsr...u wanna talk ish bout I4's then say that to the back of a S2000...

well...i can't wait to hear how "little" i kno...an for u to "educate" us some more...

I'm still just wondering how he can manage to outlaunch a Z06, an AWD Skyline, an AWD WRX, an Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, and nearly a Ferrari 550 Maranello...If you want to end all of the argument against you, start off your response with "The way I got my normally 8 second 0-60 Cougar to run a 4.6 0-60 with 225hp, stock gearing, and fwd was..." and go from there. Until then no one is believing you...Oh, and what's the guy's phone number from itsturbo? I'll gladly call him right this second...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the reason he got a 4.6 0-60 is b/c he thats what his g-tech said. NOT ACCURATE. Until he goes to a track and gets a time slip for proof he cant say for sure with any true acuracy what his car can do.

Originally posted by fatninja19



Um.. did I miss something?

Quoted the wrong post. He had a 300ZXTT. He sold it cause the insurance was too high. 12000 is all he asked for. I kicked myself cause I found that out like two weeks after getting my car for about the same price... I coulda been rolling in a Z...


It was a very fast car. Good low end torque and good high end hp. When he let me drive it, I chirped the tires all the way up to fourth gear, and I never broke 50 mph (lots of torque). I downshifted (he warned me not to) to second and nearly killed both of us....


I miss his car...

Long live the Z!

Originally posted by lloyd_nickens


Quoted the wrong post. He had a 300ZXTT. He sold it cause the insurance was too high. 12000 is all he asked for. I kicked myself cause I found that out like two weeks after getting my car for about the same price... I coulda been rolling in a Z...


It was a very fast car. Good low end torque and good high end hp. When he let me drive it, I chirped the tires all the way up to fourth gear, and I never broke 50 mph (lots of torque). I downshifted (he warned me not to) to second and nearly killed both of us....


I miss his car...

:D from that description...i miss his car for u...stoopid honda...no torque grrr...

All I have left to say to CougarSVT is TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL.



And also, why don't you change your so called "facts" a few more times in effort to better your argument?

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
i'd bring my gsr to dayton...an unless u spray, ur not gonna be too far ahead of me. with my SIMPLE (i/h/e/clutch=newb mods) i'll keep up w/ ur "fast cougar"

u act like some lil kno-it all, when u don't kno the 1st thing about drag racing at a track...1st, REACTION TIME MEANS SHIT! u could sit there for 20 seconds, then go an still run the same time if u got a .6 R/T. 2nd, fwd is better then rwd? :rolleyes: since when? think of the physics of it...as u go forward...where does ur weight go? uh...backwards? an u have NO suspension mod's so...ur car jus magically can out-launch rwd?

ok...i had ppl put things on? rite...cuz u kno its SOOOO difficult to put on i/h/e :rolleyes:

as for "any gsr." i'd like to see ur "blow" some of my friens cars away...hrmmm...but that's rite we're jus lil 4 bangers rite? plz...ur an ignorant fool if u think u can beat all an own all jus cuz u have a V6. especially considering it TAKES a V6 for ur car STOCK VS STOCK to have the same power as a gsr...u wanna talk ish bout I4's then say that to the back of a S2000...

well...i can't wait to hear how "little" i kno...an for u to "educate" us some more...



DO WHAT.... are putting words in my mouth AGAIN!! Like i said before i laugh when you guys say i have little mods or assume i dont have certain mods. Why dont you just ask!? I have a FULLY adjustable suspension that is set up for drag, i also have the essential rear anti roll and upper strut bar. So.... now what? Ask and ill will deliver!!!!! Umm, the G-tech is VERY reliable when used properly, that is a flat road and a BRAIN will work. Ive proven the G-tech several times by comparing the results from actual track times. Carson has also proven the G-tech by these same means. But hes probably a dumbass and has no idea what hes talking about right? Unfortunatly Carsons website is under construction(atleast it was yesterday). Check it out itsturbo.net!!!!

Carrnut, ill respect all what you have done mainly because it sound like we are both similar in upbringing. I also own alot of cars and have owned many different cars. My main car right now is my perfect 1961 MGA 1500 roadster that i am in the middle of swapping the 1500cc to the 1800cc w/ a aluminum highflow dohc head(i have pics). Plus many other upgrades that i wont list. The other is a perfect 1939 Caddy(flathead V8), must i go on? Im not new here, i also am a part owner of Bullen ultrasonics inc. which has the largest Crystal Puller(makes silicon Wafers) in the world. We also just went world wide by opening a plant in china. We make parts(computer chips) for Intel, Lam research, Applied mat. & Nasa. And this summer im buying into itsturbo, so i am not a "troll" or a newbie, i may not be able to spell but i do know my cars!:D

carrrnutt, since you have lived in many different contries how hard would it be for me to get one of those skyline motors and have it shipped to the states? Is there any legal problems there? Especially if i shipped it from our plant in China.

Originally posted by CougarSVT




DO WHAT.... are putting words in my mouth AGAIN!! Like i said before i laugh when you guys say i have little mods or assume i dont have certain mods. Why dont you just ask!? I have a FULLY adjustable suspension that is set up for drag, i also have the essential rear anti roll and upper strut bar. So.... now what? Ask and ill will deliver!!!!! Umm, the G-tech is VERY reliable when used properly, that is a flat road and a BRAIN will work. Ive proven the G-tech several times by comparing the results from actual track times. Carson has also proven the G-tech by these same means. But hes probably a dumbass and has no idea what hes talking about right? Unfortunatly Carsons website is under construction(atleast it was yesterday). Check it out itsturbo.net!!!!

okie...wut are the components of ur "fully adjustable" suspension...because coil-overs don't count as "fully adjustable for drag racing" (yes i kno u can adjust them...but its not a stand alone suspension that is going to help u w/ drag racing much). u listed anti roll an upper strut? uh...that doesn't do ANYTHING for drag racing...:rolleyes:

uh...the reason why we talk say u kno nothing, is cuz of ur comments like "reaction time is everything" an call us all newbs, when ur the jackass who's making a fool of himself.

actually coil overs would help. but what he would really need is solid engine and tranny mounts. this will get rid of most of the wheel hop problems that plague the cougs on the track.

Originally posted by cougar4life
actually coil overs would help. but what he would really need is solid engine and tranny mounts. this will get rid of most of the wheel hop problems that plague the cougs on the track.

sorri...phrased it wrong, didn't mean that it isn't going to help u at al...jus meant its not going to allow u to run a 4.6 0-60 is all.

Originally posted by cougar4life
actually coil overs would help. but what he would really need is solid engine and tranny mounts. this will get rid of most of the wheel hop problems that plague the cougs on the track.


I'll tell you will make the biggest difference in getting rid of tha wheel hop. new tires better than those crummy firehawks. Since i installed the new dunlops on mine i never experienced hops which used to anoy me .:mad:

yes the firehawks do suck. the are the most over priced tire that has ever existed. i just ruined one of mine and i am going to replace it with another firehawk b/c i can only afford one tire right now. but luckily it has gotten nice enough i was able to put my 18" VX-K's on.

but acctually when you start making more power you will find that you will have horrible wheel hop on the track due to the traction compound layed on the track. but on the street wheel hop should not be a prob at all if you launch correctly.

and to KrNxRaCer00: the way it is phrased now i can agree with. it would take a lot of work and cash to hit what he is claiming. QUIFE LSD would be a must.

Originally posted by cougar4life
actually coil overs would help. but what he would really need is solid engine and tranny mounts. this will get rid of most of the wheel hop problems that plague the cougs on the track.

NO, what he would really need is 100 more horsepower:rolleyes: This is a joke...What's the guy's number you said to call? I'm going to call him...


Also, from a moderator standpoint...Condense your posts, there's no need to make 4 different posts in a row, 2 minutes after each other. Just split them up if you have different arguments to address, especially since you're not quoting anyways, thanks:)

I have z rated tires, 235/45's kinda helps. I didnt call anyone a kackass or a newb so screw off bud. Pick a little bitch fight somewhere else. Or get a faster car...then maybe id hear what you had to say!

IF your car can run in the mid-14's, you should try running a stock MR2 Turbo (US SPEC). It would give u the opportunity to see how good your launch really is. And if you plan on using your nitrous, try running a slightly modded MR2 Turbo (with maybe exhaust, FCD, BOV & MBC). But honestly, I don't think you'll be able to get anywhere near a turbo deuce without nitrous.

Given the mods that u have, I think you'll probably be a good match for my FTO GPX (filter, extractors, exhaust & Unichip). Pity you'll never even be able to race one.

Self...now your acting retarded to be a moderator!! What do you think my turbo would do?? It will give me 100 hp, by then ill be running high 12's. Really, this arguing is just for your guys and my amusement since in a month ill have nearly 300HP's. His number is (937) 533-1730!! Give him a call, hope you dont hit a brick wall...wait a minute YOU WILL!!! He will do nothing but throw facts at you!! Give him a call and let me know what was said..no nevermind ill ask since im sure you will add your own little comments to it. Later!:smoker2:

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Self...now your acting retarded to be a moderator!! What do you think my turbo would do?? It will give me 100 hp, by then ill be running high 12's. Really, this arguing is just for your guys and my amusement since in a month ill have nearly 300HP's. His number is (937) 533-1730!! Give him a call, hope you dont hit a brick wall...wait a minute YOU WILL!!! He will do nothing but throw facts at you!! Give him a call and let me know what was said..no nevermind ill ask since im sure you will add your own little comments to it. Later!:smoker2:

I'll call in a little bit. I WANT him to throw facts at me, so I can relay them to the board. Since you have yet to give us ONE fact even:rolleyes: We're not talking about next year or whenever you'll have your turbo. We're talking about RIGHT NOW. You would need 100 more horsepower than you have NOW to run the times you run NOW(0-60 I mean, quarter isn't impressive at all).

Not impressive?? Dude get your head out, its getting dark isnt it! Ill be THE fastest Cat on the road, and im talking about the new edge cats by the way. The Cougar will beat any out there even w/ out using Nitrous with the turbo(which will be installed in the air to air intercooler). Whats NOT impressive is getting an already 12 sec car to a 11 sec car (you)!! And by the way its going on before May 9 th because thats when the Cruisefest is going on and ill be there showing off the boosted cat. Granted ill have serious traction problems, but it shouldnt be to bad because the Neon Carson did ran a 12.9 w/ STREET tires. Hopefully a sponser will step up with some posi and other goodies. Called him yet????

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Not impressive?? Dude get your head out, its getting dark isnt it! Ill be THE fastest Cat on the road, and im talking about the new edge cats by the way. The Cougar will beat any out there even w/ out using Nitrous with the turbo(which will be installed in the air to air intercooler). Whats NOT impressive is getting an already 12 sec car to a 11 sec car (you)!! And by the way its going on before May 9 th because thats when the Cruisefest is going on and ill be there showing off the boosted cat. Granted ill have serious traction problems, but it shouldnt be to bad because the Neon Carson did ran a 12.9 w/ STREET tires. Hopefully a sponser will step up with some posi and other goodies. Called him yet????

Correction...Low 14 stock...Low 10s now(expected...I HAVE NOT been to the track with the current setup, as school and the bad weather have prevented it, and this is just an estimate judging by the power and weight of the vehicle. I have no problem admitting that, unlike yourself).
And once again, I'm not talking about the future, or what will be, or might be...I'm talking about RIGHT THIS SECOND. And right this second your quarter isn't impressive...Upper 14s if I'm not mistaken? Your 0-60 though is EXTREMELY impressive as you can manage to hang with cars that have 6 more cylinders, 300 more horsepower and weight the exact same if not less...THAT is extremely impressive, if you could even begin to prove it, or give one fact that would back it up, or even try to tell us how it was done. You still haven't...No I haven't called yet, btw. I'll let you know when I do.

cougarSVT you talk abotu nitrous but how are you going to install it if you sell it. remember when posting here i read the NECO boards and yes i do read the for sale section. yes everyone he is selling his nitrous kit on the NECO boards. either he isn't going to install it, he has a diferent kit in mind, or he is going to screw someone over on the NECO boards(not a good idea).


"Ill be THE fastest Cat on the road, and im talking about the new edge cats by the way." WRONG
i know of one cat in Iowa that soon will have a running supercharged 3.0 in his car right now it is getting dyno tuned.

also James howards cougar will be way faster than anything you could do. he is getting a completely built engine w/ turbo and a nitrous set up. yes i know his isn't an everyday driver type of car. but i can tell you the one in Iowa is.

also how fast do you think you are going to be able to go. what drive train mods do you have planned to get that power to the ground i hope some tranny udgrading and of course a LSD are in the works. if you want this kind of work done talk to Terry Haines of Haines motor sports he is the cougar/contour master. you can read about him at fordcontour.org.

Seriously, drop it. This topic was pretty stupid to begin with, it doesn't need to go on any further. Whether the guy is lying or not, what does it matter to us? We're not ever going to race him.

I must admit. I have enjoyed the comments made by CougarSVT throughout this thread. By the way...my bro says he'll let me bring the Turbo'd Si if I ever come that way...I'll let you play then

:D guy is full of ish...simple as that...i didn't know that z rated tires an a coil-over kit was considered "set-up for drag." I ASKED wut all u have done to ur suspension, an u sidestep EVERYTHING. psh...ur a waste of our bandwidth...get off the board.

i would just like to point out that not all new cougar owners are like cougarSVT.


please dont group us all as being like this guy.

Originally posted by cougar4life
i would just like to point out that not all new cougar owners are like cougarSVT.


please dont group us all as being like this guy.

well as the senior cougar owner on this board hopefully people would know that i never bs so hopefully that would refelect good on cougar owners.

In my opinion this thread is a flaming pile of dog shit. SVT you post and you post but you fail to post one shred of evidence that you can pull those times. Also, you think you will be getting 100+ more HP just because you install a turbo and an air to air intercooler. You might, and you might not and like self said, that is the future, not now. I don't give a crap what you are going to do; I want to know what it runs now, and the truth. Sure my GTC project will be running 11s or 10s in the 1/4 when I am done with it, but right now it can't muster under its own power, hell, it doesn't even run!

I even wonder if you know what you are doing, and if you plan on installing this turbo right. If you were really looking for power then you would be installing an air to water intercooler. What about a fuel regulator? What about all of the other things required installing a turbo? What are you doing to build up the engine? What about the exhaust?

I am closing this due to length and the sheer fact that it has drawn on with no intent to show any proof what so ever. I can only see this elevating even further than it already has.

If you can be more civil about this and show us some proof, than open another thread, otherwise they will be closed as well.

As for you Neutrino, I am calling BS! You BS all the damn time!!! :p

Yea ok, this is done for...Interesting debate while it lasted:)