so since no one is posting to my big thread ill ask it simpler
damoney69
03-10-2008, 09:58 PM
99 3.1 malibu overheated i found t stat stuck closed replaced it and water pump and now the coolant rises up and empties all out of the overflow and the coolant light turns on...does it just need to be bled?
slls
03-11-2008, 10:51 AM
Bled maybe, head gasket or cracked a head a possibility. If it has an aluminum head and the coolant went below the head, it most likely is cracked.
Headnsouth
03-11-2008, 11:49 AM
Hopefully its just air in the system at least you better hope so. How long did it overheat? Look for bleed valves on the engine if you have them.
damoney69
03-11-2008, 01:17 PM
it only overheated for a second and then shut off right away....
Headnsouth
03-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Chances are you just need to bleed the system.
Cooling System Draining and Filling
Caution: As long as there is pressure in the cooling system, the temperature can be considerably higher than the boiling temperature of the solution in the radiator without causing the solution to boil. Removal of the pressure cap while the engine is hot and pressure is high will cause the solution to boil instantaneously -- possibly with explosive force -- spewing the solution over the engine, fenders and the person removing the cap.
Notice: When adding coolant, it is important that you use GM Goodwrench DEX-COOL™ coolant. If coolant other than DEX-COOL™ is added to the system, the engine coolant will require change sooner: at 50 000 km (30,000 miles) or 24 months.
Before draining and recovering the cooling system, inspect the system. Perform any service needed to ensure that the system is clean, does not leak and is in proper working order.
Some coolant manufacturers are mixing other types of glycol in their coolant formulations; propylene glycol is the most common new ingredient. Propylene glycol is not recommended for use in GM vehicles that were manufactured with GM Goodwrench Dex-Cool. A hydrometer will not always provide a correct measurement of freeze protection when anything other than ethylene glycol and water is being tested. The degree of inaccuracy will vary depending on the proportion of other glycols present in the coolant. Hydrometers test the amount of glycol in a mixture by measuring the specific gravity of the mixture. The higher the concentration of ethylene glycol, the higher the float balls go in the hydrometer. This in turn indicates better freeze protection. Because ethylene glycol and propylene glycol do not have the same specific gravities, hydrometer readings of mixtures containing propylene glycol give incorrect values. It is recommended that a refractometer be used when testing coolant. Refractometers test for the amount of glycol in a coolant mixture by measuring the speed of light as it passes through the fluid and are not affected by the specific gravity of the glycol. For proper coolant testing, refer to Coolant Concentration Testing .
Draining
Park the vehicle on a level surface.
When the engine is cool, remove the surge tank cap by following these steps:
2.1. Slowly rotate the surge tank cap counterclockwise about a ¼ turn and then stop.
2.2. Wait until any residual pressure is relieved. Residual pressure is indicated by a hissing sound.
2.3. After all hissing stops, continue to rotate the surge tank cap counterclockwise until the cap is removed.
Important: For procedures requiring the cooling system to be partially drained, opening the radiator drain valve should provide sufficient draining. No further actions should be necessary.
Use a ¼ square drive or a 3/16 inch hex drive in order to open the radiator drain valve. The radiator drain valve is located at the bottom of the radiator tank.
Remove the engine block drain plug.
Allow the coolant to drain completely.
Inspect the drained coolant:
• Flush the cooling system if the coolant is discolored. Refer to Flushing .
• Continue with the filling procedure if the coolant appears normal. Refer to Refilling below.
Refilling
Notice: When adding coolant, it is important that you use GM Goodwrench DEX-COOL™ coolant. If coolant other than DEX-COOL™ is added to the system, the engine coolant will require change sooner: at 50 000 km (30,000 miles) or 24 months.
Close the radiator drain cock.
If previously removed, install the engine block drain plugs.
When installing the drain plugs, use pipe sealer GM P/N 12346004.
Important: On vehicles equipped with the 3.1L engine, open the coolant air bleed valve. The coolant air bleed valve is located on the top of the thermostat bypass pipe/heater pipe assembly. Close the valve once a continuous stream of coolant is expelled from the valve.
Fill the surge tank to the base of the filler neck.
Start the engine with the pressure cap off. Run the engine until the upper radiator hose starts to get hot.
If the coolant level in the surge tank is low, add the proper mix of coolant until the level reaches the full cold line.
Important: After servicing the cooling system, and if the vehicle is equipped with an intermittent low coolant light, an occasional low coolant light may be encountered during some extreme driving maneuvers. This complaint should be eliminated by removing the surge tank cap and adding coolant to a level just at or above the full cold line when the system is cold.
Install the cap onto the tank with hand tight pressure.
Cooling System Draining and Filling
Caution: As long as there is pressure in the cooling system, the temperature can be considerably higher than the boiling temperature of the solution in the radiator without causing the solution to boil. Removal of the pressure cap while the engine is hot and pressure is high will cause the solution to boil instantaneously -- possibly with explosive force -- spewing the solution over the engine, fenders and the person removing the cap.
Notice: When adding coolant, it is important that you use GM Goodwrench DEX-COOL™ coolant. If coolant other than DEX-COOL™ is added to the system, the engine coolant will require change sooner: at 50 000 km (30,000 miles) or 24 months.
Before draining and recovering the cooling system, inspect the system. Perform any service needed to ensure that the system is clean, does not leak and is in proper working order.
Some coolant manufacturers are mixing other types of glycol in their coolant formulations; propylene glycol is the most common new ingredient. Propylene glycol is not recommended for use in GM vehicles that were manufactured with GM Goodwrench Dex-Cool. A hydrometer will not always provide a correct measurement of freeze protection when anything other than ethylene glycol and water is being tested. The degree of inaccuracy will vary depending on the proportion of other glycols present in the coolant. Hydrometers test the amount of glycol in a mixture by measuring the specific gravity of the mixture. The higher the concentration of ethylene glycol, the higher the float balls go in the hydrometer. This in turn indicates better freeze protection. Because ethylene glycol and propylene glycol do not have the same specific gravities, hydrometer readings of mixtures containing propylene glycol give incorrect values. It is recommended that a refractometer be used when testing coolant. Refractometers test for the amount of glycol in a coolant mixture by measuring the speed of light as it passes through the fluid and are not affected by the specific gravity of the glycol. For proper coolant testing, refer to Coolant Concentration Testing .
Draining
Park the vehicle on a level surface.
When the engine is cool, remove the surge tank cap by following these steps:
2.1. Slowly rotate the surge tank cap counterclockwise about a ¼ turn and then stop.
2.2. Wait until any residual pressure is relieved. Residual pressure is indicated by a hissing sound.
2.3. After all hissing stops, continue to rotate the surge tank cap counterclockwise until the cap is removed.
Important: For procedures requiring the cooling system to be partially drained, opening the radiator drain valve should provide sufficient draining. No further actions should be necessary.
Use a ¼ square drive or a 3/16 inch hex drive in order to open the radiator drain valve. The radiator drain valve is located at the bottom of the radiator tank.
Remove the engine block drain plug.
Allow the coolant to drain completely.
Inspect the drained coolant:
• Flush the cooling system if the coolant is discolored. Refer to Flushing .
• Continue with the filling procedure if the coolant appears normal. Refer to Refilling below.
Refilling
Notice: When adding coolant, it is important that you use GM Goodwrench DEX-COOL™ coolant. If coolant other than DEX-COOL™ is added to the system, the engine coolant will require change sooner: at 50 000 km (30,000 miles) or 24 months.
Close the radiator drain cock.
If previously removed, install the engine block drain plugs.
When installing the drain plugs, use pipe sealer GM P/N 12346004.
Important: On vehicles equipped with the 3.1L engine, open the coolant air bleed valve. The coolant air bleed valve is located on the top of the thermostat bypass pipe/heater pipe assembly. Close the valve once a continuous stream of coolant is expelled from the valve.
Fill the surge tank to the base of the filler neck.
Start the engine with the pressure cap off. Run the engine until the upper radiator hose starts to get hot.
If the coolant level in the surge tank is low, add the proper mix of coolant until the level reaches the full cold line.
Important: After servicing the cooling system, and if the vehicle is equipped with an intermittent low coolant light, an occasional low coolant light may be encountered during some extreme driving maneuvers. This complaint should be eliminated by removing the surge tank cap and adding coolant to a level just at or above the full cold line when the system is cold.
Install the cap onto the tank with hand tight pressure.
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