As far as reliability and longevity without motor problems, which factory turbo'd cars have proven to last the longest? I'm not talking about diesels though.

Mazda FD3S RX-7.

haha and yes i was going to mention a diesel
cmon a turboed mercedes diesel with a little tuning those things are like rockets

ok two things: even without the deisel, your still talking about a ton of cars... 2: way to many variables: amount driven each day, weather, how hard they r driven, are they raced etc... i dont nesesarily like the rx-7 as a choice, only because the rotary engine has beeen known to hit problems, no mattter how big it is.

ok two things: even without the deisel, your still talking about a ton of cars... 2: way to many variables: amount driven each day, weather, how hard they r driven, are they raced etc... i dont nesesarily like the rx-7 as a choice, only because the rotary engine has beeen known to hit problems, no mattter how big it is.

i dont nesesarily like the rx-7 as a choice, only because the rotary engine has beeen known to hit problems, no mattter how big it is.

Are you kidding? Everyone knows that rotaries are fuel efficient yet potent performers that are perfectly reliable, and hardly ever need oil changes. They are awesome.

ok two things: even without the deisel, your still talking about a ton of cars... 2: way to many variables: amount driven each day, weather, how hard they r driven, are they raced etc... i dont nesesarily like the rx-7 as a choice, only because the rotary engine has beeen known to hit problems, no mattter how big it is.

I know there are variables. I'm asking what cars in general have proven to be long-lasting over the years. I mean I'm sure there are some Honda civics that have had major engine failure after 80k miles just because some one never changed the oil and ragged the shit out of it, but the general consensus is that civics are one of the longest lasting cars on the road. Honda is the bomb.com but I'm asking about factory turbo'd cars here.
Oh and rotary doesn't count. Those are just weird.

rotaries are not weird they are rather cool and as far as a reliable turboed car I would tend to say something with a smaller turbo maybe an old saab??

I was joking about the FD, lol. Sans reliability mods (and often with), they like to go Zoom Zoom Boom. But damn, they can be hella fun. Basically you have a square, and inside that square are two very angry triangles trying to get the fuck out.

rotaries are not weird they are rather cool and as far as a reliable turboed car I would tend to say something with a smaller turbo maybe an old saab??

MkIV Supra.

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Seriously, I've seen them with over 100k miles still boosting stupid levels of boost and going fast. Evos I'm sure can handle miles as well. Not sure about Scoobies, someone more in tune with those will have to chime in.

out of factory( IM SUPRISED NO ONE SAID THIS) but the eclipse gs-t and gsx, can last quite a while, although once they do hit miles in excess of 120k, you might hit some problems.... the saabs are nice, as long as you don't beat it to death.... anything above 100k on the saab turbo'ed motors, and you start beating up on it, you wont make it to 110k... my buddy has 3 broken in his driveway... alll have under 115k on them...

out of factory( IM SUPRISED NO ONE SAID THIS) but the eclipse gs-t and gsx, can last quite a while, although once they do hit miles in excess of 120k, you might hit some problems.... the saabs are nice, as long as you don't beat it to death.... anything above 100k on the saab turbo'ed motors, and you start beating up on it, you wont make it to 110k... my buddy has 3 broken in his driveway... alll have under 115k on them...

Eclipse? Mitsubishi is notorious for making unreliable motors. 120k miles is pathetic. I guess there's not really a shining example out there of a motor that was really built to handle the boost for more than a decade. If only Honda would have made a turbo...:disappoin

I know powerwise they are good...anyone know more reliability wise bout the GNX?

Like Cassiesman, I've too heard that the 2JZ-GTE can run for long periods of time, even under modification. As far as boosted motors go, that is probably the most reliable that I am aware of.

My wife's 98 VW Passat 1.8t has 197k miles and still runs smooth and gets 31mpg highway. That's what you get when you drive like a turtle and have all scheduled maintenance performed when it's supposed to be done. :wink:

My wife's 98 VW Passat 1.8t has 197k miles and still runs smooth and gets 31mpg highway. That's what you get when you drive like a turtle and have all scheduled maintenance performed when it's supposed to be done. :wink:

Isn't that a turbo diesel though?

The 1.8t isn't a deisel.

Anyhow, I've heard of TDs going over 200,000 on the stock engine and turbo.

Isn't that a turbo diesel though?

Nope. 1.8l dohc 20valve turbo runs on 93 octane

Does anyone know what size turbo that uses or how many psi it's on?

Does anyone know what size turbo that uses or how many psi it's on?

A turbo the size of your fist.

A turbo the size of your fist.

Maybe if he's an infant.

Maybe if he's an infant.

Ouch, I was trying to be nice. :lol:

Actually, the turbo in the Passat appears to be bigger than the k03 baby snail in Gotians Jetta. The engines are different. Passat - engine is mounted longitudinally like a rwd whereas the Jetta's engine is mounted sideways like most fwd cars. I could be wrong about the size of the turbo but I do know it's bigger than my fist. :lol:

the 1.8t VW motors boost 11 pounds stock, and are easily modifiable and even when modified they can still last a long time. But on the VW its everything else you need to pay attention to. The tend to have electrical gremlins depending on the model, the CAT can fail on you like mine is doing (I have a jetta 1.8t) You need to do some check up on hoses cause they are pretty weak and can crack easily depending on how.

Though cassies was kidding about the FD (93-95 rx-7) The previous models were actually very reliable (86-92). There are plenty that are still running in perfect condition that are 100k miles and up and you can still find some with less than 100k miles that are stock. The FD's were self destructive which had alot to do with poor cooling after putting some money into reliability mod's, adding some oil coolers, racing beats Fan Mod, switching from twin turbo to single turbo (though you dont need to if you do all the reliability mods, they have a list on the rx-7 boards) the FD's can be decently reliable as well, but you still should be on top of maintanance and that actually ggoes for any car if you want it to last any sort of length of time.

Actually, the turbo in the Passat appears to be bigger than the k03 baby snail in Gotians Jetta. The engines are different. Passat - engine is mounted longitudinally like a rwd whereas the Jetta's engine is mounted sideways like most fwd cars. I could be wrong about the size of the turbo but I do know it's bigger than my fist. :lol:


Actually the turbo's are exacty the same size just the size of the openings are different, mine has larger entry and exit points since your's is the KO3 and mine is the KO3s. The engines are the same too, just mounted differently is all. Mine is also a 1.8 liter turbo 20 valve.


Oh and I forgot, the one turtle has boosts 8 PSI to mine boosting 11 PSI

Legendary Toyota bad ass turbo cars from the factory

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Mitsubishi HAS had the longest running engine series that has been turbocharged. in fact... they are the only ones to keep turbocharged vehicles in their lineup since forever (barring 00-02 when times were rough), and REALISTICALLY, if you can maintain them much like the FD Mazda RX7, they can last... the problem with turbocharged vehicles is simply, they are TOO MUCH FUN, and you realistically can't expect to keep them forever.

diesel is just a type of fuel, Get a cummins Diesel turbo and call it a day.