WIP-Saving a 10 year old model, JACCS FERIO

mrceej

02-06-2008, 02:12 PM

Since I don't work on the motorsports side of scale modeling very often and I'm nearing completion of two other models in the WIP-Street forum, I thought now would be a good time to try something I've always thought about doing.

Here's the situation. I purchased and started this model probably 10 years ago and was building it along side the JACCS Civic hatchback and JACCS Accord. I applied the decals and did a fairly poor job. It's a given that my skills 10 years ago are no where near where they are today (and I'm still learning each time I build). So here was my idea. I was planning to strip off the decals and paint the entire JACCS scheme onto the body. Sound simple enough right? It seems like a good idea especially since the colors of the decals don't seem to be accurate anyway. But then I thought, what if I totally screw up and discover that I am in way over my head? I've never ever even attempted a paint job as tough as this one will be. So I thought to myself, "I wish I had another Ferio body that was still virgin." That's when it hit me...I do have a virgin Ferio body!! LOL It's a small sacrifice but my new plan is to take the virgin body and paint the JACCS scheme onto it. What's the sacrifice you might ask? Well, Hasegawa Ferio models in general are fairly rare. The extra body I have is a virgin because I've been sitting on that model for years, waiting for the right time to build it and it happens to be the PIAA Ferio. I figure if I'm successful, I can strip the old body and use it for the PIAA scheme. If I fail, I can strip the virgin body and try again or just save it for when I'm ready to build the PIAA Ferio. Either way, I'll have the original decals intact on the old body and once the new body is complete I can determine if the old one is better than the new one. This should be interesting.

I haven't hosted the start of the paint job progress yet, but here are a few pics I took a couple of years ago of the original model to get the thread started.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Picture011.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Picture010.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Picture018.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Picture017.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Picture012.jpg

mrceej

02-07-2008, 03:39 AM

mrceej

02-07-2008, 12:47 PM

Madish

02-07-2008, 01:32 PM

Nice, I like your enthusiasm for that Jaccs livery as I'm making Jaccs Accord from Tamiya and it's realy scary :D
You handle it well, shame that the green one went wrong, but keep it up, every mistake makes your progress further:grinyes:

godfather23

02-07-2008, 02:55 PM

You have to be kidding me. This is just way out of a sane idea... Gee, I love your effort!! You really try to achieve something. And doing it another time - I couldn´t take it. So great respect to you!

davezilla

02-07-2008, 03:48 PM

wow, that is an amazing masking job. I can't believe you're stripping it and doing it all over again.

Do you have another set of the JACCS and the blue zigzag decals or are you planning on masking and spraying that on as well?

blazed_racer

02-07-2008, 04:14 PM

holy hell you have some rare models..!!!!

love the effort to paint on the jaccs theme!!! good work!!!

mrceej

02-07-2008, 05:05 PM

Thanks for comments everyone.

davezilla-The kit came with the zig zag decals already attached to the colored body portions and it also came with separate zig zags by themself (extra I guess? maybe for errors because they knew putting on decals like that is a huge pain? LOL). So I still have the extra separate pieces still unused and I initially was planning on using them but I thought, what if they don't line up with the masks I cut out? So then I made the decision to paint in the zig zag pattern with blue paint and a regular brush, using the mask as a guide. Should be simple enough. But since I'm starting over, I think what I'm gonna do is after the body colors are sprayed, I'll leave the masks over the white areas and cut more zig zig masks to put on to define the blue zig zag edges. Then I'll let loose with a can of blue paint. Also, I've just been using regular Tamiya spray cans but I might try and do this second paint job with my airbrush (I hardly ever use it, too lazy to clean and mix paint, etc). I figure that maybe with the airbrush, I'll have slightly better results in the thickness of the paint itself at the color breaks and at the same time better control to avoid the paint from running/bleeding. I also thought about using BMF for the mask. Reason being is that since it's so thin the paint will have less of a "wall" to build up against compared to the masking tape when it's sprayed, ultimately giving me less problems later when it's time to wetsand and polish it out. As for the JACCS decals, "ImolaEK" traded me a set of Tamiya JACCS Accord decals years ago and I never used them. I was planning on using them but once again, using the reference photos I have the decals are the wrong color. The original decals for the JACCS logo are green on the Hasegawa sheet as is the one's from the Tamiya Accord kit but the reference pics shows the Ferio specifically with the JACCS logo in black so I think what I'll have to do is scan the decals and print a new set in black. Not a big deal since I'll have to print the remaining sponsor decals anyway.

Another big decision is whether or not I should keep the body as is or how it is depicted in the reference photos I have. I'll scan them later so you can see what I'm talking about but the pics show the same car with a carbon fiber lip and carbon fiber wing as well as different wheels.

Anyone have any additional pics of the real car that might help me out? I'd greatly appreciate it.

mrceej

02-08-2008, 03:08 AM

I went out and checked on the body earlier. Here's how it is currently:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio047.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio048.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio049.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio050.jpg

I rubbed the body with my fingers in that last picture and the paint was rubbing off. I put it back in the brake fluid. I'll let it sit till tomorrow night and hopefully the rest will come off by then.

Honny

02-08-2008, 06:33 AM

awesome work, i was planning to do the same masking work on the JACCS accord.... but never had the guts !!

good luck with the second time on masking ! and hopefully zeropaints will make some paints for the JACCS colours in the possible future:P

mrceej

02-11-2008, 01:45 AM

Finally, I had a chance to work on the paint job this weekend. I ran into some small problems but nothing too drastic. One of the problems was the similarity in color of the yellow paint and the masking tape. I thought I had everything masked after I sprayed yellow, preparing for the red paint. After the red was sprayed, I peeled off the masking tape only to discover that two areas of yellow weren't covered. Not too big of a deal, just remask and paint accordingly. The bigger problem I had was a piece of dust/lint that got partially underneath the mask on the rear bumper. I tried to pick it out after I had just sprayed the red paint and dug my finger nail into the paint. I had to sit back and wait for it to fully dry so that I could sand it down and do a quick touch up.

Here it is after the brake fluid bath and fully wetsanded.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio061.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio062.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio063.jpg

I primed the body and began the paint job once again. I didn't take pics of this process since it's the same as above but I did take a few pics of the problem I encountered on the rear bumper.

Sanded down:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio051.jpg

Quick spray of Matte White:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio052.jpg

Mask off the color break:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio053.jpg

And spray the Italian Red (correct model paint this time, not RC car paint LOL):

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio054.jpg

And then after it was dry to the touch, time to start peeling the masking tape off:

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio055.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio056.jpg

After that was all dry, I masked off the body for the last color. The first time around I used Park Green. It came out too dark. I went back to the store and bought a can of Light Green. I remember passing on that the first time I was shopping for paint because it just looked too light. Well, it was time to find out if it was worth the time spent redoing this paint job just for that color.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio057.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio058.jpg

Looks better to me!! Time to peel off the masking tape and reveal what the body looks like...

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio059.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio060.jpg

I think it's nearly a perfect match!! Time to go and mask off the jagged edge one last time so that I can finish the paint job with the blue edging.

davezilla

02-11-2008, 01:52 AM

Great job, the light green looks a lot better. You make it seem so easy.

mrceej

02-11-2008, 04:40 AM

Tripmaster

02-11-2008, 08:28 AM

That blue zig-zag strip look to be pretty difficult for masking. Paint needs some minor corrections, but you did great job. ;)

mrceej

02-11-2008, 11:43 AM

I just started the wetsanding process...and I'll have even more minor corrections to touch up now haha.

Enzoenvy1

02-11-2008, 06:03 PM

And I thought I was anal about how I painted bodies - hell, I have never even tried something like this. I can't believe you restarted the whole thing?! I will admit though, the second attempt was way better. Great job! It really looks great.

mrceej

02-11-2008, 06:08 PM

Thanks for the comment, believe it or not I'm contemplating doing it again. Something about the blue...I think it went on pretty thick compared to the other colors. I'm not sure yet. I cleared the body before I left for work so I'll see what it looks like when I get home and decide if I really want to go through this all over again for a third try. I mean it's not really all that bad, I was just hoping for something a little bit better. Maybe if I do it over again, I'll use the decals for the blue edging. I'll just have to be super exact when cutting the masks.

mrceej

02-13-2008, 12:51 PM

After much debate, I've decided I want to do it over. Basically, the red seems too dark as does the blue. I went out to buy new paint last night and I think this time I'll have it right. Here's a pic of how it looks with clear and partially polished.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/mrceej/Scale%20Model%20Cars/Jaccs%20Racing%20Team/Jaccs%20Civic%20Ferio/JACCSFerio080.jpg

The more I look at it, the more the color variation bothers me. I think that if I leave it as is, I'll be disappointed later on that I didn't correct it when I had the chance so might as well do it the way I want. There's a saying, "Third time's the charm" let's see if it's true.

davezilla

02-13-2008, 08:06 PM

Looks great to me? :sly: You are insane to try it a third time! Hope it turns out the way you want this time.

evil_hanzel

02-14-2008, 12:32 AM

that is simply amazing. i wish i had bought this kit when it was offered to me for only 15USD.....

Joe Blyth

02-14-2008, 01:14 AM

You're insane. It looks great the way it does now!

mrceej

02-14-2008, 01:53 PM

We'll see if it's all worth it. I've spent alot of time, not to mention money, on the body already. I think what I'm more worried about is if I get the body just right and then I do a poor job on the interior. This is my first motorsports build that I'm actually trying to do more than just paint and glue together. We'll find out next week I guess. I pulled the body from the brake fluid this morning and gave it a quick wetsand. I put it back in before leaving for work in the hopes that the last streaks of paint will lift off by tonight. I won't get any work done on it this weekend because I'll be out of town but it should be prepped, primered, and probably painted white before I leave. I think since I've got it stripped, I'm going to add some slight modifications to the fenders as depicted in one of my HyperRev magazines. It'll help in terms of rim clearance and also be more accurate.

Ąɥrton

02-14-2008, 05:12 PM

So, you're actually doing it for the THRID time??? :yikes:

Brave man! As the others said, it looked good to me too but the important thing is that YOU are satisfied! I think I've only repainted one or 2 car bodies and they were not such a complicated colour scheme at all! So good luck with your third attempt!

:bigthumb:

willster127

02-15-2008, 04:13 AM

The thing that makes me laugh about this is that you manage to stop yourself ripping the masks off to take in progress mask removal pictures so we can all enjoy it too!!!!!!!

This is one of the best masking tutorials I have seen on this site and I respect you for doing it not only once, but three times to get it the way you want. After seeing the second result compared to the first I am sure that number 3 will look amazing, I personally cannot wait to see the result and like I said earlier I find it amazing that you can wait and take all those cool in progress shots of the tape coming off!!!! I know I could never do that!!!! Excellent stuff!

rod_k2

02-15-2008, 08:44 AM

Did you just kick me in the nuts?

Oh sorry,wrong phrase! :D

That looks awesome!! Unbeliavebly awesome!!
I just don't believe that I'm looking at a Ferio!! :eek:

mrceej

02-15-2008, 05:53 PM

Haha yeah, I took pics in between hoping people might get that same feeling of anticipation and excitement as I did peeling it back to reveal the final product. I pulled the body this morning from the brake fluid and began to wetsand it once more. Most of the paint is off and I've rescribed the panel lines. This is it, if I strip and sand this body anymore I'm going to have no more door handles LOL.

I was looking through my spare parts bin and I found a racing bucket seat from what I believe is one of the Tamiya JGTC supra models. The Hasegawa Ferio does include full race interior but I'm not sure how the seat compares to the Tamiya product. I'm leaning on using the Tamiya seat since it has the carbon kevlar decals for the back side but I'll compare the two later to see which is better suited for the model.

I should have a bit more progress to post on Monday night. I'm gonna hit Las Vegas for the weekend so wish me luck and hope I don't come back completely broke haha

rod_k2

02-15-2008, 10:42 PM

Aw shit,you forgot to do something...

Well,since you are stripping it again,what about cutting that hood and dropping a revell engine in? :naughty:

O,no toyotas inside honduh's. :p

If you are looking for a bucket seat of some sort,PM me,i've got plenty of spare ones... The one that comes with the JGTC NSX is a Spoon one,right?
Well,i've got a spare one of those,if ya like it,PM me!
I might give it away to you... :naughty:

But of course,if you prefer the Supra one,no problemo! ;)

rod_k2

02-15-2008, 10:45 PM

Ah,I just remembered it...

Do you actually believe that I DREAMED with this model last night?! :screwy:
I was so astonished that you've got a ferio and I don't [:p] That I even dreamed with it...

I was in one store,and I was going to buy a hatchback when someone offered me a Ferio for really cheap,but it didn't have any decals at all...
Well,i've got it!! [At least in my dreams! ;)]

You should put something like 'The power of dreams' on your sig,or even rename this thread to it! Because it really does have that power...:p

MidMazar

02-19-2008, 08:47 PM

Nooo, looked fine the first time if you asked me.

ATMDC

02-23-2008, 01:09 PM

ACK! how could you strip it again, it looked beautiful. awesome job on both attempts, i will definitely be keeping my eye on this one. 4thumbs up!

B16EF

06-19-2009, 06:23 PM

Hey there... Have you made any progress on this kit? Your work so far is AWESOME!
I am curious how you'll do the suspension as i have the PIAA ferio kit and i know its gonna have that same look. I want it next to my PIAA accord- and that thing is dropped!

mrceej

06-24-2009, 02:39 AM

You know, I got to the point where I got the body white again and decided to change up the front a tad bit to make it more accurate per a couple of pictures I have seen in a hyper rev magazine but it pretty much went on the back burner. I built the suspension when the kit was new so I can tell you that by comparison to the Tamiya Accord, it looks extremely high even though there's no wheel gap at all. If you pay attention to the disc brake mounting points they are offset so that they give the appearance of a modified suspension even though it still uses the standard civic suspension. I can post pics from the magazine if you'd like to use them for reference but it's not even on the same rims.

Maybe I'll get back to this model soon now...

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