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serge_saati
01-20-2008, 06:06 PM
When I turn the wheel a lot (not at max), the front right wheel make a strange noise. It's like a friction noise. But it's not the tire. What is it?

It happens usually when I park my car, because I turn the wheel a lot. It doesn't happen at the highway. It happen both at idle and at low speed.

I have uploaded the video, so you can heard the noise:
Video1 (http://decclic.qc.ca/usagers/028595/Documents/noise when turning wheel 1.avi)
Video2 (http://decclic.qc.ca/usagers/028595/Documents/noise when turning wheel 2.avi)
Video3 (http://decclic.qc.ca/usagers/028595/Documents/noise when turning wheel 3.avi)
Video4 (http://decclic.qc.ca/usagers/028595/Documents/noise when turning wheel 4.avi)

It's 4 different videos of the same problem.

The sound come more on the top of the wheel. So I think it's the suspension when it turns, it has friction.

It's because I need to lubrificate the tie-rod end, the balljoint, the stut nut?

If not, how I can make a diagnosis of this problem?

wiswind
01-20-2008, 10:25 PM
I mention in my "General Windstar Information" sticky post that one can get a grease needle at most auto part stores, in the section where they sell grease and grease guns.
With the grease needle, you can inject grease into the boot over the tie rod ends and lower ball joints.
DO NOT inject grease into the CV joint boot.
If the suspension points are worn, adding grease will not solve the problem, they must be replaced.
If you catch the problem early....before they have worn, you can extend the life by adding grease, and the grease needle is the only way to get more grease in there.

Once you get some grease in there, it would be good to follow up with a good front end inspection to make sure that you do not have worn parts that need replacement.
Such an inspection should be done every year to 2 years MAX on any vehicle.
It is a part of a quality front end alignment.

tomj76
01-21-2008, 11:45 PM
It's hard to tell from the video where the sound originates. However, I had a similar sound, although in my case it was more severe sounding (i.e. stronger, and occuring fewer times as I turned the wheel). One symptom that it had was that it only occured in cold weather. I noticed the snow in your video, so I'll ask if it also happens a warm temperatures, above 50 F?

In my case,
I found out that this is caused by the upper spring seat rubbing on the underside of the shock/strut tower. TSB 02-13-02 recommends installing a spacer above the upper strut mount, below the tower sheet metal. The TSB even mentions the temperature sensitivity that I noticed. The part number of the spacer is 18A027.

Check this thread for more information: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=522930

tripletdaddy
01-22-2008, 03:11 AM
Along the lines of what Wiswind was stating, it is very common for the outer tie rod end and the lower ball joint to have a loud creaking noise that is also present when driving over things slowly and coming to a stop. However, the noisy strut tower bearing plate sounds like it might be more consistent with what you described. Try raising the front on ramps so that the weight is still on the tires, then have the tires turned while underneath listening for source of noise and also from underhood at top of tower. Let us know what you find.

serge_saati
01-22-2008, 09:04 AM
One symptom that it had was that it only occured in cold weather. I noticed the snow in your video, so I'll ask if it also happens a warm temperatures, above 50 F?


No, it doesn't happen when temperature is above 50°F.
Mean that the theory about lack of lubrication is good.

I will apply grease next weekend. I'll inform you about the result.

Thanks for all the advices.

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