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it would be nice to have spark


jdmcivic12
01-07-2008, 04:37 PM
alright well, its not the fuel, im getting plenty, my spark plugs are not igniting at all, when i turned the car over, it will crank over and hits every once in awhile. i have a 97 gs, anyone know of any spark problems

SilvrEclipse
01-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Test the wires and the coil to make sure it still good.

gthompson97
01-07-2008, 04:51 PM
Check your crank sensor.

SilvrEclipse
01-07-2008, 04:57 PM
If the crank or cam sensor was bad wouldn't the fuel not be working also?

gthompson97
01-07-2008, 06:16 PM
I'm not sure about the cam sensor, but the crank sensor is tied directly into the ignition/firing system. If your crank sensor is broke/unplugged, you will get no spark, but you'll still get fuel. I'm assuming it's the same way with the cam sensor too. The fuel pump will always turn on as long as the key is turned into the on position, regardless of if the motor is out of the car or not.

SilvrEclipse
01-07-2008, 07:15 PM
I was referring to the injectors firing

gthompson97
01-07-2008, 09:05 PM
Ahh....that I do not know. I'm assuming the injectors don't have anything to do with the crank sensor, I had trouble with that one time and the plugs were wet as hell but I wasn't getting any spark. As for the cam sensor, I cannot say.

SilvrEclipse
01-07-2008, 09:44 PM
Im thinking the injectors and plugs fire off the cam sensor, and the crank sensor ties into the ignition also.

Check your crank sensor to see if its still good. Its right about the oil filter on the back of the block.

jdmcivic12
01-08-2008, 11:18 AM
well we checked the sensor, the sensor is good, we think it may be the coils or the ecu, but i have no idea which, anyone know a good way to check the coils?

SilvrEclipse
01-08-2008, 03:46 PM
Look it up in the haynes manual. If you dont have one it would be a good idea to get one. Check the coil pack and if it checks out good then I would suspect the ECU.

Also check the middle pin on the coil pack plug to see if your getting 12v. This is the power for the coil

jdmcivic12
01-09-2008, 06:48 PM
alright, what would you use to check that pin? because i have good coils in there now, and i put some ngk plugs in and im still not getting spark.

gthompson97
01-09-2008, 08:01 PM
A multimeter

SilvrEclipse
01-10-2008, 07:23 AM
Or you could use a test light. All your checking is that the coil is getting power. If you got a multimeter make sure its getting 12v on that middle pin.

jdmcivic12
01-10-2008, 09:33 PM
last night, we tried to pop the clutch and it worked and ran for a couple seconds and shut off. whats with that?

SilvrEclipse
01-10-2008, 09:41 PM
WHAT? You push started the car and it ran? I though it didn't have spark, your not really making sense. If the car has no spark then it wont run at all no matter how you crank it.

jdmcivic12
01-11-2008, 04:54 PM
yeah it would start and than it would shut right off, we switched plugs, we put in ngk and took out the bosch platinums

jdmcivic12
01-12-2008, 02:02 PM
well guys i apprecitate the help but the car is getting sold. it has no compression, therefor no spark. so im selling it as a parts car. take a look at it in the classifieds if interested in an easy project. Thank You much

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