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Why Are they so fast?Carguy393 02-19-2003, 04:35 PM Earlier this month I on the way home from college I found myself following a brand new Cougar. Eventuly I pulled up to a stop light next to it. My saturn was at this time completely stock minus a cold air intake. I shifted at 3,000 in first because I didnt think the cougar was racing. I saw her begin to speed up drastically and I followed by stomping the gas in second. When all was said and done I beat her by about 1 car length. We finally stoped around 100 MPH I found this amazing that my little 96' SC2 had just beat a 6 cylinder that runs 0-60 MPH in 7.5 seconds but after checking out the forums on saturnspeed.com I found that this was not out of the ordinary. So I was wondering why are the saturns so quick and does anyone know the stock 0-60 times for a 96' SC2?:) Carguy393 03-21-2003, 12:23 PM Does anyone ever look at any of the saturn forums?:confused: kaoru-tochiro 03-21-2003, 01:01 PM Maybe the gearing is lower? 0-60 in 7 for a 4 banger is not bad. Carguy393 03-21-2003, 07:09 PM Your Probably Right I know first goes to 25Mph 2nd goes to only 50 Third goes to 70mph 4th Goes to 105 mph and I think it tops out at approx. 130 kaoru-tochiro 03-22-2003, 05:08 AM You mean that at 3000 rpm youre doing 25 mph?, woah, at 2000 rpm I do 30 mph. You know I drove a Saturn once, 4 door model and it also handled pretty well. Carguy393 03-24-2003, 10:19 AM My Saturn redlines @ 6500 rpm in first gear or 25 miles per hour I have a manual tranny so I also have five speeds. I can also push my car past redline to at least 7000 rpm but it isint the smartest thing to do. Sooner or later I will start building my motor so I will probably be able to rev pretty High. I just recieved my engine block off of ebay so If I get some money I will start buying parts for it.:devil: bdiddy401 06-25-2003, 06:21 AM the 0-60 times for the sc2 is 8.4 and the 1/4 mile times are 16.4.the merc times are 0-60 7.7 and 1/4 mile 16.0.you can check it out at www.angelfire.com/pa3/ford/performance1.htm:redface: Wilson_Shaw 06-26-2003, 11:19 AM Was the Cougar a manual or an automatic. The Cougar's auto adds a full 1.5 seconds to its 0-60 time, bringing it to just over 9 seconds. bdiddy401 06-26-2003, 05:03 PM im not sure i just wrote what info they gave me but didnt say if it was auto or stick Carguy393 06-27-2003, 12:50 PM I dont know if the cougar was an auto or a stick I just lined up an went. It was a female driving so It might have been an auto but I am not for sure. 2fast4_ur_ass 07-07-2003, 02:00 AM Just wiat till (if you want to) add some modds, you think it's fast now, when you add some mods you'll b beating faster cars than the one you did. BTW- check out www.saturnspot.com Carguy393 07-08-2003, 10:27 PM Sorry guys but my little saturn might be going bye bye tommorrow. 2fast4_ur_ass 07-09-2003, 01:18 AM Originally posted by Carguy393 Sorry guys but my little saturn might be going bye bye tommorrow. :spit: Why would you do a thing like that!?!?!?!?!? Import Guy 08-06-2003, 02:20 AM good going! saturns suck ass, 5.0's are real cars that really fast. i dont know why all you fags say there so fast, they are slow! get it through your you heads. my girl beat a stick sc that was all moded and her car is an automatic civic and is stock except for a cold air intake. so i dont know why you all keep saying there all sooooooo fast! :flipa: 99sc1 08-06-2003, 12:27 PM yea import guy...thats great, we dont care Miataracer 10-05-2003, 10:22 PM wow... Import Guy it is idiots like you who make this world just that much more annoying. 5.0's are real cars that are really fast? I don't drive a Saturn, I drive a Civic. I have actually raced against saturn sc coupes in SCCA and they are fast as hell for what they are. I raced a full prep Spec Miata and the SS Saturn coupes were faster than me, not in the turns but they would out run me very badly on the straights give credit where it is due, loser miamisl2 10-07-2003, 03:47 PM miata racer if you were a girl i would marry you. saturns arent fast but they are quick for what they are. the reason, they are light and the dohc has a nice amount of torque. they weigh under 2400 lbs. most saturns run the quarter in 16.5 or so stock. there are quite a few people who have run the quarter in 15.5 stock in pre 95 sc2's manuals. they are fun to drive and have fully independent suspensions. case closed. ratpak07 10-08-2003, 11:58 AM I THINK IMPORT GUY IS JUST MAD, CAUSE HE DRIVES A FORD,WITCH STANDS FOR-FOUND ON ROAD DEAD, OR, FIXED OR REPAIRED DAILY-, EITHER WAY , HOW MANY TIMES HAS YOUR 5.0 BEEN TO THE SHOP???? I DRIVE A 98 SATURN SL2 AND TO LET YOU KNOW, I ALSO HAVE A 89 IROC, IN WITCH CASE BOTH HAVE LEFT A 5.0 BEHIND, SO I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD BURN YOUR FORD, AND GET A CHEVY, AND YES I DONT KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS, BUT SATURN IS A (GENERAL MOTORS) PRODUCT, ALL AMERICAN, I DINT WANT MISTER FORD GUY HERE TO THINK THAT SATURNS ARE RICE ROCKETS, ANYWAYS BURN YOUR FORD :lol2: PlastikAssassin 10-24-2003, 01:08 AM Ahh.... Well ImportGuy is a douchebag and all, but I think his girl probably beat a SC1. No offense but you SOHC owners really give us a bad name. PlastikAssassin 10-24-2003, 01:29 AM Oh yeah, douche, here's for you: http://saturnperformance.com/stuff/video/movies/Saturn%20vs%20Mustang.mpg http://saturnperformance.com/stuff/video/movies/FonzoNOSvs97GTStang.avi Horray for civics, not. http://saturnperformance.com/stuff/video/movies/saturncivic.asf By the way, I love how you classify mustangs as a "real" car, as if it's godly or some crap. Sure, a 5.0 is great for the track, and racing in a straight line, but can you autocross with it? Can you race on a road course with it? YES, you can, but not without some serious suspension modifcations. You want a "real" car, try an Evo,a WRX, or a F-Body. Great handling, great acceleration. Zero8985 11-16-2003, 04:12 AM the only thing i can say is the twin cam engines are quick little engines. I own a z-24, same engine. Sorry, but like the sunfire gt and cavalier z-24, the SC2 isn't extraordinarily fast. The Mercury Cougar is just Extraordinarily Slow. freakonaleash1187 12-14-2003, 11:42 AM i have to say somin bout import guy, how can u have a name like that when you have a domestic car. what a retard. smoka_9 01-15-2004, 06:45 PM Hey Import guy, was the Saturn aware that you were racing? TommyH 01-16-2004, 11:22 PM the only thing i can say is the twin cam engines are quick little engines. I own a z-24, same engine. Sorry, but like the sunfire gt and cavalier z-24, the SC2 isn't extraordinarily fast. The Mercury Cougar is just Extraordinarily Slow. ...Um, no offence intended but the Z-24 came with either a V6 (2.8L and 3.1L) or in later years a 2.4L I-4. The DOHC Saturns came with a 1.9L I-4 that shares no parts with any other GM car...which is why finding parts is so difficult and damned expensive. Saturns are fast for what they are because they're very light, have great low-end torque, a good tranny (provided you don't do burnouts) and an outstanding suspension. I'm not saying that they are "super-cars" by any stretch of the imagination but they are the best performing cars in class. They should typically be compared to the Civic EX, Neon DOHC, Sentra, Cavalier, etc. not the top of the line performance models though; such as the Civic SI, GTI, Neon ACR or 200SX SE-R. Remember, while I do race my car in SCCA STS class and there are many others that race in DSP, EP, STX, ITA and SSC classes for both solo II & I, they are just basic grocery getters. saturnsubohio 01-17-2004, 12:54 AM saturns weight is why its fast.....um 2300lbs curb weight is really damn light.....that cougar is prolly close to 3000 lbs.......and import guy if u like imports why bother to mention an american car such as a 5.0 Stang? Fag saturnxsc2 01-17-2004, 10:04 AM the only thing i can say is the twin cam engines are quick little engines. I own a z-24, same engine. Sorry, but like the sunfire gt and cavalier z-24, the SC2 isn't extraordinarily fast. The Mercury Cougar is just Extraordinarily Slow. what is being said is that they are quick for what they are. like said before, they arent supercars, they just have a great engine for a small car and with the torque and whatnot the car moves, emphasis on moves. simple. you wont win any crazy supercross races but no one said they would. cougars are slow, the newer ones are actually kinda cool and might have a chance since the body was completely redisigned but saturns are great cars with, in my opinion, great stock performance. smoka_9 01-17-2004, 03:09 PM I have taken down a Sentra SE-R already in my 1994 SC2. I don't know if they just couldn't drive or if it was a fluke but by the middle of third gear I had them by 2 1/2 to 3 car lengths. bigfoot2471 02-07-2004, 11:34 AM first of all what are you doin in a saturn forum. second lets name ourself import guy then talk about 5.0 real smart. no i dont think saturns are fast its my winter beater. and no one cars what your girl beat. I can beat your girls civic in my Z28 but thats not the point. The point is you need to take your shit shove it right back up were it came from. bigfoot2471 02-07-2004, 11:36 AM it just depends on what year se-r your talking bout if its a newer one it shoulda whooped you if it was an older one much closer race. gt50 02-07-2004, 04:50 PM I have owned a long list of cars. I wouldn't even call my sc2 quick. The low end torque of the engine makes it very easy to drive around town, but limits it power output. A 1.9L car should be in the 150's. I am sure this is mostly due to the head used. The exhaust ports look tiny in the pictures I have seen. Besides the fact that it has no power, I love my sc2. I have had it a month. I bought it to prevent destroying another late model car with too much mileage. So far I have 2000 miles that I have put on it, and have gotten 30 mpg. Besides, I have a WRX for fun times :) , but nobody will race me. I used to get challenged all the time when I had my mustangs, and my civic, and integras. To the 5.0 guy, I used to own one. They are not that fast. My wrx will run sub 6 second 0-60 in a downpour. Top that in any rear wheel drive v8. smoka_9 02-07-2004, 07:02 PM It was one of the newer models. I was as suprised as anyone. There is also the possibility it was an auto. richard96sc2 03-15-2004, 01:59 PM good going! saturns suck ass, 5.0's are real cars that really fast. i dont know why all you fags say there so fast, they are slow! get it through your you heads. my girl beat a stick sc that was all moded and her car is an automatic civic and is stock except for a cold air intake. so i dont know why you all keep saying there all sooooooo fast! :flipa: if you like 5.0 so much then why is your screen name import guy dumbass!!!! o yeah buy the way your girl did beat a stick it was mine last night. joyrider 03-19-2004, 10:19 AM Boy you can just feel the love here! I just got a 95 SC2 and it is a gorgeous little car. . .I didn't buy it to be fast, I got it to save gas cuz I drive 1000 miles each week back 'n forth to school and delivering pizza. But I was surprised as hell when I roasted a Honda CRX and later a little red Nissan at the stoplights. And they were trying!--Saturn was designed by GM as competition for such imports as these. I'd have to say they did a fine job. The small, lightweight car handles great, it's quick, and fun to drive. I just got rid of my 92 Cavalier that had 185K miles, and this car is a thousand times better. Plus it gets 27 mpg in stop-and-go traffic. See ya at the red lights! WildsideCreations 03-20-2004, 01:26 AM yea import guy...thats great, we dont care LOL LOL LOL LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DOOOD!!!! I laughed at this for like 10min!! " yeah whatever nobody cares" LOL Whooooooo thats rich! BossDj 04-02-2004, 10:02 AM Just flipping through the forums and i noticed someone saying that SOHC owners are giving DOHC owners a bad name. I have an 02 sc1 with cold air intake and a tuned exhaust, no other mods, and I routinely leave Integra's and the like in my rearview mirror. SOHC owners don't give saturns a bad name, dumb drivers do. Saturn_racer 04-03-2004, 05:54 AM well thats cool and all, talking about other cars in a forum about Saturn SC. and all the guy asked was why are they so fast. Yeah sure theres now a lot of info. some videos of SATURNS!!! kickin some ass. and then theres the people how talk shit because last week the got there assk handed to them by so teen age girl racing a SATURN! My Saturn has 245000 miles on it and its the orginal motor, i still race it like its brand new. and the funny thing is I still kick some serious ass. believe what you want but i swear on my child wifes live, about a month ago i bet a 91 Eclipe TURBOCHARGED!!! in my little oh 94 Saturn SC2 and yep its stock. now maybe it was luck, the other guy doesnt know how to drive, or the wind help me along, i don't know. All i'm saying is Saturns are fast, nice looking, gas saver(when you dont race them), and fun to drive.Saturn Kick ASS vr4lover 04-07-2004, 02:55 AM 1rst gear @ 6000 rpm is 45mph in my car. 2nd gear @ 6000 rpm is 85mph 3rd gear @ 6000 rpm is 130 in my mitsubishi 3000 gt vr-4 i have not yet seen what fourth can do i stopped at 140 because i have a bad tire on it (lol why are these cars so fast? lol) kingpinn 04-15-2004, 04:54 AM my friend has a 99sc2 and i hate that car. it is fast . faster then my crx on my best day. stock he ran a 15.6 why that is i dont know but pisses me off. now that he has i/e i dont know what he runs but i know its faster then me thanks .. oh and that new redline is sssssiiiiiiiccccckkkkk............................ ..... gt50 04-15-2004, 06:16 AM 1rst gear @ 6000 rpm is 45mph in my car. 2nd gear @ 6000 rpm is 85mph 3rd gear @ 6000 rpm is 130 in my mitsubishi 3000 gt vr-4 i have not yet seen what fourth can do i stopped at 140 because i have a bad tire on it (lol why are these cars so fast? lol) That is very tall gearing. blkcat 07-27-2004, 10:13 AM It is possible that you were racing against a 2.0L ZETEC. Cougars with either engine really don't look any different. As BDIDDY showed in his responce, a V6 with a 5 speed would have creamed you. Nothing wrong with that, just fact. Hey, if I dragged against a 5.0 Mustang I'd lose too. Just like you though, the Cougar has some moves that a Mustang could never pull off. There was no need for ImportRacers comments. He's just ignorant. I personally am just sick of people with slower cars that put ridiculous body kits, wings, racing stripes, fart cans, eBay cold air intakes, and tachs as big as my head on their cars and say that they can kick my car's ass. What kind of stock z24 Cavalier would take my stock Cougar? Give me break. It's cool to think that your car is the best out there, but let's all be realistic. As for the questions of Saturns being fast, they are what they are and a Saturn owner is happy with that then that's fine. At least the car is American. riceburnersuck 07-27-2004, 06:02 PM Man all your rice burners are fine i have a chevy truck pushin 475 hp and i blow away them gay ass civics and saturns and neons so stop sayin ur fast... riceburnersuck 07-27-2004, 06:09 PM i have raced saturn piece of shit and a civic.... i have alot of cars... iraced him with my z-28 camaro and blew his doors in...... y don't u people face it that 4 clyinders suck!!!!!!! go with 6 or 8 or 10 gt50 07-28-2004, 03:31 AM Sounds like you are trying to make up for some short coming... What are the stats/mods on your car? Why the hell would you race a saturn or civic in a z28? My 4 cylinder sends enough 8's running home crying for their momma's, and that is with dry weather. :) blkcat 07-28-2004, 05:10 PM Why can't you spell or complete sentences, Riceburner? You race Saturn piece of sh*t? That good!! You write reel good!! Come on!! You guys that drive American vehicles look like ignorant a**holes!! WTF?? bobenhotep 08-01-2004, 09:00 AM saturns are light , thats why they are fast. this is because your hood/roof/trunk are paper thin (an alabama hailstorm rocked mine, and all the other cars around came out unscathed) and the rest of the body panels are plastic. an sl1 stock only weighs something like 2500 lbs, and an sc is even lighter. uh, that might have something to do with it... CypherSC2 08-18-2004, 10:34 PM I just recently installed an exhaust... and Im able to keep up with my Friend who drives the 2001 Eclipse GT..oh btw My friends Eclipse GT is Manual and my SC2 is Manual...and all he has is Cold Air Intake... destiniespunk 09-06-2004, 06:42 PM Man all your rice burners are fine i have a chevy truck pushin 475 hp and i blow away them gay ass civics and saturns and neons so stop sayin ur fast... umm. saturns arent rice you dumbass, they are domestic, if you knew anything you would have known that.. and oh yeah.. YEEEHAW!! lets get us up in some pickup trucks and fuck our toothless cousins.. go back to west virginia and haul some pig shit or something... destiniespunk 09-07-2004, 08:51 PM hey, riceburners suck.. guess what i raced tonight, a big gay chevy truck... claiming he could blow me away.. hmm, who won.. me? yes that would be correct, me.... i guess his "no fear" and rebel flag decals didnt add enough horsepower.... vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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