Caldina-Anyone got one of these..?

I would like to hear about emission, how it handles and what may be the sticker price in Britain/the U.S.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Caldina/grade_val/images/gr_va01.jpg

I don't know if you get the J-spec ones where you are and I can't help with price but this may still be of intrest to you:

Available with a 5 speed manual or 4 speed Auto.
Comes with Traction control(TRC), Vehicle stability control (VSC)
1440KG Kerb weight (1470 for the Auto version).
13.8 Sec 1/4 mile

I haven't BEEN in one but I have seen and raced a few, they are VERY good looking with a kit etc and are DAMN fast!!

KiwiMR2 :)

Where on earth did you get the 13.8 1/4 time from? :lol2:

They are quite common round here, and Iv seen at least 3 diffent engines in them. (all stock)
But most common seems to be the 3stge, or a 4agze.
But Iv seen a few N/A ones as well.

A more acurate 1/4 time would be mid 16s, they are heavy, and with gears more set up for crusing then racing. Sort of Toyotas answer to the GT legacys for the Japanese market.

From the Toyota website!!

Take a look at my other thread about it ;)

http://www.speed.org.nz/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=541

Cheers
KiwiMR2

Where on earth did you get the 13.8 1/4 time from? :lol2:

They are quite common round here, and Iv seen at least 3 diffent engines in them. (all stock)
But most common seems to be the 3stge, or a 4agze.
But Iv seen a few N/A ones as well.

A more acurate 1/4 time would be mid 16s, they are heavy, and with gears more set up for crusing then racing. Sort of Toyotas answer to the GT legacys for the Japanese market.


your very wrong. the 4wd 3sgte ones do high 13's with out mods, other engines they come with are 3sge and 3sfe.

my dads got a caldina but its a five door full time 4wd diesel. i think it does a quater mile in about 12 days! ha ha! tops out at roun 80mph probably!

I can confirm that the 1/4 mile time is 13's.

seen a stock caldina (GTT obviously) do a 13.6 also....

Emissions,

(this is a gtt anyway)
Really good, (until you remove teh cadillytic converter)
Handling, = Very good, although remember it is a wagon so the tail end can be a little happy,
but then teh VSC and TRC kick in and take care of that and it still handles really well,

much nicer at high speed than low down, as it doesnt have a very good turning circle.

pulls right through the rev range and it upsets a lot of subaru drivers.

no idea how much you'll be lookign for in britain

got any pics? 'cause i dunno wtf this is

Quite a bit has been found out since this post started age;s ago. Basicly they are quite expensive to get a lot of SAFE hp out of, they have a higher compression than the GT-4 & MR2 variants of the 3sgte & in turn don't like higer boost etc.

Here's a pic:

http://toyspeed.blakjak.net/profiles/photos/1327.jpg

I can go into more detail IF required but searchs on the net should show some great info.

Cheers
KiwiMR2

sweet looking wagon.
i got nothing but love to all things toyota/lexus

wow! had no idea there was such a thing as a caldina gt-t! looks a lot feckin different to what i had in mind. :smile:

Hi i own a manual 1997 gtt caldina and yes they are very nice cars. They crank out 225 bhp 6000rmp on all four wheels and are incredibly fast. And wouldn't suprise me if they do do a 13 second standard 1/4 mile. The handling is pretty good except obvisouly they are wagons so are back heavy. they come standard with 15 inch alloys, 6 cd stacker, climate air con,

I paid $16,995 NZ$ for it but it is a Really nice car

costing lots to get safe horsepower is interesting... i am looking at going to the caldina engine over my 2nd gen 3sgte for my mr2.

I don't know if the caldina engine will fit in the back of an mr2 but good luck to ya will probably mean alot of conversions to do so let me know how it goes

and as for the porche porches are CRAP!!!!

and as for the awd its better to have 4 wheels spinning than only 2!!!!

as for the caldina engine.
it's the current gen 3s-gte... the block is the same and it bolts in using the same mounts. just remove the power steering pump and move the alternator to where it used to be.

problem is the computer.


as for the caldina GT-T 3s-gte putting out 225hp, you should probably get that checked.
2nd gen 3s-gte (JDM) 225hp (ST185)
3rd gen 3s-gte (jdm) 245hp (ST205)
3rd or 4th (depending who you want to believe) 255hp(ST215)
3rd or 4th again 260hp(st246)

you should have 255hp.

Yes i did have 225 but i put a cheap racing mod in from m-99.co.uk that gave me an extra 20hp so now its running 245bhp

hey mate since your the 3s-gte expert do you know what the ECU number of my Caldina would be???

and yeah your right it is 255bhp sorry mate read the stats incorrectly

so what makes you so sure the cheap racing mod netted you 20hp if you haven't dyno'd it?

Well I just traded my WRX in on a Caldina after never driving one before and I am really impressed with its legs . It is quick probally faster then the rex . Where do I find out what model/ generation engine its got ? and can anyone suggest some mods ?

hey mate if its a 1996-2000 its a 3sgte engine st19 i think but def on the 3sgte engine as for mods a boost controller is a definate i paid $75 nz for mine installed very easily from trade me also a blow off valve the factory one is ok but just not noisy enough king spring lowering springs depending on how much money you want to spend on the car maybe front mount the intercooler (VERY EXPENSIVE) i think that thats really all the caldina GTT's need they are VERY FAST CARS 14 second 1/4 mile i have been told. My boost controller is a Go Fast Bits Manual Boost Controller works very well but with a boost controller i DEFINATLY recommend you get a boost guage aswell as to not destroy the turbo with to much boost even if you don't install the guage and just hook it up to set the boost anyways good luck with it mate cheers.

st195 st215 or if its the new model its st245.

3rd or 4th gen 3s-gte.

make sure you run the highest octane fuel you can and be wary bout putting too much boost in as with a 9:1 compression ratio you might kill your engine. (previous 3s-gte revisions were at 8.2:1 or 8.5:1).

sure boost controller is good but i'd be starting with stuff like the air filter and exhaust. The caldina has a top mount intercooler (interheater) so think about a front mount if you have the cash or even a water spray unit to try and get more out of it. suspension.

hey guys I will have a definate 1/4 mile time on the caldina by the end of march running at standard boost and also at about 14psi will keep you guys posted cheers

wagon heli's own!
i put a boost gauge on mine couple of years ago and it was doing 12psi.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5968/cally7wx.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cally7wx.jpg)

another one ;)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8522/dsc002955jr.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002955jr.jpg)

hey guys have a time for the caldina at standard boost it ran a 14.5 sec 1/4 mile not bad i reakon :D

and hows this even got a top speed for it 265km/h at standard boost not fuckin bad :D

is that manual or auto?

5 speed manual ofcourse :D

i know for sure it should be doing a high 13's.

well i assure you this car of mine did a 14.5 ofcourse it was its first run and its last so it may of gone faster i dunno. but that was wat i got 14.5

phil, I think your cheap performance mod dropped your power,

although qtr mile times can vary depending on driver, conditions, etc.

but I have seen a stock caldina do mid 13s

if anyone wants to know how to disable the VSC on a toyota, go here:

http://caldinafaq.blogspot.com

i didnt have my cheap mod installed when i did this but yeah i think my clutch was a little fucked which didnt help ofcourse

got a stock black caldina gt-t in April from japan...tell me what type of easy gains to get from it....tell me what difference u got in taking of ur catalytic converter.....not interested in changing the exhaust though.....i thinking of turbo timing it, should I?, is it necessary on this vehicle?

I would definatly recommend turbo timing it. If nothing else it will definatly prolong the life of your turbo. also i bought a Greddy turbo boost control for $70 off trademe. was very easy to install and gave me quite a gain from stock 12psi to 18psi boost. thats prob the cheapest way to get gain from it just make sure you get a boost guage installed before you up the boost and dont run it at to high a boost for to long. as for the caty converter i dont know yeah youd probably see a gain in that aswell. yeah those are prob your cheap ways to gain HP out of it.

thanks for the info......i willl definetely consider everything now....what would make life easier like how uve done all the research is to put up a site link showing the models for the boost guage and turbo timer u recommend for the car...il be buying them out of the U.S. and bringin them down to J.A.....u got me started on it now....i have so much other pet projects but wasnt considering any on the car....its totally stock....all ive done is change the bulbs to HID xenon, change the plugs to NGK R's and use very regularly octane boosters and gas treaments and engine tune up treatments as the gas in this country is crappy....use full synthetic shell oil....what do u use?....i thinking of changing the power steering fluid but i dont want to use just any..but it not all that pressing to change now...ohh..and ive installed a high power set onto the stock 6 disc cd changer and k9 alarm system the same week i got it.....its not bad coming from a series of high strung honda's...including the 1800 integra SIR, then the H22 accord SIR...fully worked naturally,...then a 2000cc SIR torneo...then a 2001 Euro R, nice red sitting on some fat OZ 18"'s ...yeah all manual and worked out....but i got this GTT stock and auto triptronic....and yet not even complaining...it just feels a bit heavy...should a made it lighter but it still performs very well with the vsc on my pikes peak hill i live on....
sweetest moment with it so far.....at a light against an '05 type R...and give ing 3 car lengths and all i could hear is vtec bawling behind me..:banghead:

lol theres so many boost controllers out there the one i got was just a cheapy.http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Turbos/auction-63600884.htm <thats it there. but the problem with that one is you cant adjust the boost while your driving along as it sits inside your engine bay. but yeah it works. otherwise id recommend an in cabin boost controller which turbo smart seems to do quite alot of dont bother with a digital one the manual ones work fine. as for the oil i use castrol magnatec. and also watch out with the indash cd changer our one fucked out about 3 months after we bought the car and me and the missus have now split so i havent even seen the car in 7 months. and yeah ours was a five speed manual and yeah they are quite heavy but also very quick. i think i got mine up to 265ks fully maxed out before the red and blue lights came on in the back wind screen lol. but yeah our one was completly stock except for the boost controller as it was the ex's car and her being a bitch wouldnt let me mod it at all.

and hows this even got a top speed for it 265km/h at standard boost not fuckin bad :D


So i take it urv also got a speed chip. otherwise they speed cut at 190 km/h

um yeah had a little apexi computer thingy which enabled me to adjust the cut out speed. was installed when i bought the car. no chip

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Electronics/auction-65246254.htm was one of these installed in the car when we bought it fantastic tool. cuts out rev restrictor and speed restrictor :D

ok now for the links of suggested upgrades.

boost controller
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Electronics/auction-65499970.htm

boost gauge
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Gauges/auction-65283403.htm

the apexi rev meter in above post


p/s fluid doesnt really matter theyre all pretty much the same.
turbo timer:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Turbos/auction-65188794.htm

i think thats abouit it Apexi are a bloody good brand and definatly one i would have to recommend.

mine goes in on tuesday to get a 3inch exhust all the way, air filter and blow off valve...

will post pics up when done.

who know the timing markking of the toyota estima 2400cc vvti
u all also can find me at msn my email is lwf83@streamyx.com

can u all help me pls

Caldina gt-t's Have the same Turbo as a 2.5L Single Turbo Supra and Soarer. Yet Put out more HP and Nm out of the 3s-gte. Standard before mods are 260Hp, I am aiming to get mine to 400+Hp in the future. As standard internals can cope with around 400Hp, Anything more needs rebuild kit which is avaliable also stroker kit etc.

is it possible to make them rear wheel drive, without costing thousand?
i have a 1998 caldina gtt, there is a distinct whine and i think its the front diff
i was thinking to go rear wheel drive instead of fixing the front diff