again

again but this time orange

i got plenty more if you want them, i got some NICE! 1600x1200 res pics, but this board wont let me upload them adn i cant be bothered resizing them, but the LM picture i have that is 1600x1200 is schweeet!!!!!!!!!!!. i have plenty more unknown mclaren pictures just the ones you saw above if you want them, just ask in this thread and you shall recieve.:smoka:

Try uploading them to picturetrail.com, they allow linking.
nice pics

OMG!! That blue McLaren has got to be the best looking one ever! I love that color, its just amazing. I think I speak for all of us in the forum, we would love to see more! Thanks for posting those though, their amazing!:)

Nice! Which model is that? This is my favourite F1 pic, everything about it is perfect, and I have it in much higher quality.

arent the pictured that are being hosted show up???.... oh, well just right click on hte image copy paste the url of the image to a new windown and they shall work. but they seem to be owrking on my computer and displaying up:confused:

the blue is nice eh.

oh well heres more pictures. enjoy.

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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH THIS BOARD IS so god damn annoying, new server lol pffft, it still dont work., and people wonder why i dont write in here and post all my car pics, ive attached about 15 pictures, and only four are showing, why hte fuck does this always happen????? i mean if this board got its act together it would have alot more people. for instance, id always be on here posting pictures and news and updates for ya's like i do on the other board i chat on, but christ, im sick to death of this fucking board always fucking up my attachments. this is hte 3rd time its done it too me, sorry guys, but i cant attatch any more pictures for yas cause the board wont let me, like it owrks and stuff, it attaches them, file size isnt to large, but then, when it reloads to the forum page (where we talk etc with posts etc) the pictures dont display up. dont blame me for no more pictures til another day, blame the board. laters

I see all the pics. :confused:

I see them all too. And they are damn nice. Wow. What a car. Is there any other car in the wrold with seating like the F1's? It is so strange. I think I would prefer a regular two-setaer with a car that beautiful. But wow, nice pics. Thanks. :D

yo dude... can u post some black Mclaren F1 pics? :)

I also see all the pics, very nice! eb110ss4life, did you take these yourself?? Again, very excellent pics!:flash:

ohhh so now the pictures work lol. damn, bet i look like a complete arsehole.:alien: ill post yas the rest of hte pictures i was gonna post up.

did someone say black?

blue one number xp4

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black i hear you say
"Customer F1 Road car in for LM front splitter and rear wing install. This guy and his brother both have F1's and have a car to car comm system built in!"

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blue one again

this picture is the OTHER side of the mcalren F1 in the driveway of the garage with the porsche turbo and 360 modena, or F355, which ever it is, i forget.

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black eh

black again

more black

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Amazing....just amazing!! Those are some great pics! Where did you find them all? Anyways, thanks for showing all of those. Later.:)

I love the Black model and the BLue model myself. Great pictues. Just for future reference...Try posting links to pictures or posting more than one picture in a post. I know there is a limit bytes size but you might be able to put 3 on one post. This will keep the moderators happy.:D To post more than one on a post incase you are not sure...www.automotiveforums.com/upload

Thanks againg for all the sweet pictures.

is McLaren owend by anyone?:confused:

wow that are really great pics

thanks a lot man!

That car is so amazing! The orange pic at the show with everything open, and the black one wheelspinning, wow!

and to think i dont like hte mclaren and have all these awesome pictures of it, and still more yet, that have to be shrunk to be posted onto here, ill do that another day in this thread, its jsut i accidentally deleted my photo editting program the other day whilst cleaning out my computer.

Astounding pictures! Thanks a lot. I've never seen such great access to the McLaren workshops (I assume that is the location).

Not the best Mclaren F1 picture but a nice garage :

a LM and a red Mclaren F1


http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/f1lm13.jpg


And this one


http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/mclaren-versions.jpg


And the heart of the beast


http://membres.lycos.fr/tnyssen/mclaren-comp-motor-g.jpg

I still like the Murcielago more, but this is one hell of a car.

Nice engine assembly lay out and pictures jkbon.

hey .
if your after the pictures that i couldnt post on the board because of size problems, then go to here http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/contents/mclaren.htm
by the way, this is my new name exoticcarsite as i was known as eb110ss4life
cheers ya'll n enjoy the pics.

i hadn't seen this pic b4... http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pictures/Cars/mclaren/GTR/mclaren-gtr-3.JPG

yer 1 of my favourite pics, that i believe was taken during testing at goodwood as it says in the book fastest cars from round the world thats where the pic came from.

That's a great shot - thanks!!

Photos of GTR #01R in it's original look are quite rare.

One suggestion for your site is that on the GTR page, the first and last photos that you have there are both shots of XP1 LM, the LM prototype and not a GTR. Other than that, is a great presentation you have there!

>8^)
ER

its just a plain and simple picture that looks somewhat elegant :). ill get right on those gtr pics too wince they are wrong. and thanks for that. im slowly and evenually going to finish the site. ive only just started so ive got a long way to go yet.

That's a great shot - thanks!!

Photos of GTR #01R in it's original look are quite rare.

One suggestion for your site is that on the GTR page, the first and last photos that you have there are both shots of XP1 LM, the LM prototype and not a GTR. Other than that, is a great presentation you have there!

>8^)
ER
can i ask where you found out that that is #001R? i have looked all over the net and it says nothing about that being #001R.

is it in DA? if so, what page?

I've known that it was GTR #01R since it was originally shown to the press in late '94 or early '95. Several magazines covered the introduction of the F1 GTR model with photos of that car. That's the car's presentation livery - I used to have a poster of it on my bedroom wall even, and I think I might still have the poster at home somewhere. I also have an AutoCar article with a shot of Gordon and Ron with the car that mentions it being the first GTR. I know that it's covered in "Driving Ambition" although not too specifically. I'll get you a page number later.

Look for this photo and you might find the page you're looking for:

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/35/09/21125941-0b70-02000176-.jpg

The car didn't wear the Ueno Clinic livery until just before the qualifying of the '95 24Hrs of LeMans race.

>8^)
ER

Is the blue one in the first few photos an LM or a standard car with a high downforce kit? Awesome pics.

The blue one is a standard F1 road car wearing the High Downforce Kit or LM Kit. It's chassis #011 and was sold recently at a Christies Auction. Except for the interior, it's my favorite F1 road car as far as looks are concerned. I'm sure it's simply stunning in person.

BTW: So he doesn't have to say it, mini_magic saw that car, photograped that car, and sat in that car at the Christies Auction. He has shared a few of the photos in here already.

>8^)
ER

hehe, i was gonna say it :)

It's a shame you weren't thinking - you could have licked it too. :iceslolan :screwy:

>8^)
ER

Hey, I sat in it too. I even started it up and revved it to deafening levels! And I shared all my pics.

:)

Hey, I sat in it too. I even started it up and revved it to deafening levels! And I shared all my pics.

:)
...and an automotive celebrity was born...

off topic.

lookie what i found:

http://www.mwerks.com/gallery/albums//Motorsports/Misc./Rolex%20Vintage=Festival%202003/014.jpg

http://www.mwerks.com/gallery/albums//Motorsports/Misc./Rolex%20Vintage=Festival%202003/016.jpg


i have found more, i can't remember where tho, i'll go look on dtmpower.net, i think it was there

ok so this is not #001R, which number is it?...

http://pages.framingham.k12.ma.us/Vossc8/McLaren-F1-GTR.jpg

can u post a few more pics of #001R in its original livery?

pic doesn't show

Judging by the scoops next to the headlights and the front air dams i'd say it was #05R run by BBA competition.

That is most certainly GTR #01R - I promise!

The caption on page 191 of "Driving Ambition" next to this photo even confirms it:

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/35/09/21125941-0b70-02000176-.jpg

Sunny New Year: veteran Danish endurance racing driver John Nielsen gives the prototype McLaren F1 GTR, chassis '01R', its first high-speed lap in the late afternoon gloaming - Silverstone south circuit, January, 1995. Five months later this very car will bring McLaren victory in the LeMans 24-Hours classic.

There are other small photos and captions confirming that it's #01R on pages 193 & 195 of the great book.

Then on page 205 there's another caption which adds confirmation. It falls next to a photo of #01R wearing the more common Ueno Clinic livery which it wore at LeMans. It reads like this:

17-18 June 1995: The fairytale - McLaren Cars' weel-used test hack GTR - the originally papaya-and-silver liveried works development chassis '01R', leased and re-liveried for its new Japanese Ueno Clinic sponsors - screams throught the Sarthe pine forests on its way to momentous victory in the LeMans 24-Hours classic...

Why would you say that it's not #01R?? :confused: :screwy:

>8^)
ER

Picture "A":

http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pictures/Cars/mclaren/GTR/mclaren-gtr-3.JPG

Picture "B":

http://pages.framingham.k12.ma.us/Vossc8/McLaren-F1-GTR.jpg

Picture "C":
http://a1.cpimg.com/image/35/09/21125941-0b70-02000176-.jpg





the reason why i question A being #001R is because of the big difference in the front fascia to that of B. A does not have the 2 slots next to either headlamps. could #005R be the F1 GTR in picture B in racing livery?:

http://www.qv500.com/McLaren%20F1%20P6%201.jpg

...or maybe its #007R that has been upgraded to LM Spec?...

http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02837.JPG

...those are all speculations, but i still have a couple more things to cover...


A has the small left side intake that doesnt appear on C, instead A has some kind of black square patch where the small intake would be.

im not sure about this, but the side lettering of where it says "GTR" in picture B doesnt look black. before you dismiss this as a trick of light, i want you people to look at this photo of a 1:43 model of what maybe #001R in its original scheme:

http://www.ferrarimodelsclub.it/TECCHIO/IMAGE/McLarenevoluz03.jpg

if anyone can post more pictures of #001R in original silver/orange livery, that would be helpful!!



this post is taking too long so let finish it. A looks slightly different from the F1 GTRs in pictures B and C. could there be a chance that other chassis have been painted in the same scheme?

With referance to the NACA ducts on the nose. All 95`GTR spec chassis were delivered with NACA ducts on the nose. It was only at the LeMans 24 hours where the nose of the 95`GTR chassis`s were modified. All 95`GTR chassis that raced during 1996 were modifed to the latest spec with the exception of the BBA chassis 05R which remained in its original 95`GTR spec through it racing life. Hope this helps

:smile: :smile:

that nose duct thing....
#01R is the first gtr, it's the prototype, so improvements were made throughout it's life
different things were tested on that very car.
therefor, it doesn't look the same all the time...

If 01R was fitted with those scoops during development, they obviosly decided against them (no scoops on Le Mans winner). Why then did they keep them on 07R and 05R? I think its possible that 05R was originally painted silver and orange before being given its Le Mans livery. The whole front end of the car in the photo is exactly like 05R. I don't see how any developments rejected by McLaren in testing would not be removed from all of the 95 GTRs before the season began.

but of course, the car was upgraded to the latest spec before lm
read DA, the info is second to none

The NACA ducts were on all the chassis prior to LeMans. The nose was modified to allow extra air through the front air scoops, therefore deleting the NACA ducts. On 05R the nose was never modified. :naughty:

:banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead:

the reason why i question A being #001R is because of the big difference in the front fascia to that of B. A does not have the 2 slots next to either headlamps.

Photo A does have the two slots next to the headlamps - they are simply taped over. Look closely - you should be able to see the outline. I know I can...

...those are all speculations, but i still have a couple more things to cover...

I'm presenting you with facts - why is it so difficult to believe them?

A has the small left side intake that doesnt appear on C, instead A has some kind of black square patch where the small intake would be.

A black patch?? :confused: Your eyes are playing tricks on you - it's the same intake and the harsh light from the setting sun is just making it difficult to see all the detail.

im not sure about this, but the side lettering of where it says "GTR" in picture B doesnt look black. before you dismiss this as a trick of light, i want you people to look at this photo of a 1:43 model of what maybe #001R in its original scheme

The side lettering in photo B doesn't look black to you?? :confused: Did you mean to say photo C??

Someone custom made that 1/43rd scale car - no company has ever released one as a production diecast or model in the GTR Prototype livery. Therefore, the builder's interpretation that the "GTR" script lettering was silver is simply inaccurate and you can't use that as a reference. It's just the same as this guy who made a 1/18th scale version:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=223&item=3556670288

He made the "GTR" script silver instead of black. I'm not certain what these people used as reference material for their projects, but the photos I have seen never show the lettering as silver.

The "GTR" script in photo C appears to be silver, but really it is just reflecting the sunlight back and so you lose the black color of the "GTR" logo. The photographer might also have been using a filter to enhance the orange glow coming back from the car.

this post is taking too long so let finish it. A looks slightly different from the F1 GTRs in pictures B and C. could there be a chance that other chassis have been painted in the same scheme?

No - in fact - absolutely positively no. Any photo you find of a silver over orange GTR is going to be GTR #01R. I have no doubts about that.

The only other digital photos I have of this car show it without the "GTR" script on the doors. I will try to find them on the web and post them, but if not I will host the copies I have and include them here. They don't really confirm anything else, but it's all the pictures that there are.

>8^)
ER

I wasn't able to find them online, so here they are:

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/42/F9/24569666-bf47-0257013E-.jpg

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/4D/FA/24569677-2d98-02570126-.jpg

Note that the lower front facia seen in these photos is slightly different that what you see in photo A & B of stratoraptor's earlier post. I think that these may be some of the first photos ever taken of #01R and that the revised facia came later in the development process.

BTW: If anyone has any others, please share as I want them too. :D

>8^)
ER

Great Photos, not seen them before. :naughty:

this is interesting for me. i see that the lower front fascia of the car has been worked on throughout all the pictures. the ones that Peloton25 has posted dont look anything like that of picture B

does anyone have an idea of the chronological order of the pictures?

If 01R was fitted with those scoops during development, they obviosly decided against them (no scoops on Le Mans winner). Why then did they keep them on 07R and 05R? I think its possible that 05R was originally painted silver and orange before being given its Le Mans livery. The whole front end of the car in the photo is exactly like 05R. I don't see how any developments rejected by McLaren in testing would not be removed from all of the 95 GTRs before the season began.

Well in reality, all the '95-spec GTRs save #09R were originally fitted with a front end featuring those ducts. I'm not quite sure what they were for though.

From left to right - here's GTR #07R, #02R, #08R, #03R & #06R

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/6C/66/24580972-3111-02000097-.jpg

My image host is resizing the photo somewhat, so to see the full version, right-click on this link, select 'Copy Shortcut' and then paste it into a new browser window:

http://members5.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/getImage.pl?imgID=24580972-de71&trans=

Notice too that the middle car - GTR #08R which was built to replace GTR #04R which the Gulf Team had crashed earlier in the BPR season is the only GTR to feature the updated front facia.

I believe that photo was taken prior to the 1995 24Hr of LeMans, possibly during pre-qualifying at LeMans (an edited version of the image is found at the bottom of page 197 in "Driving Ambition" btw), but not all of those cars would keep these extra vents for the race. In fact, during the LeMans race they were only seen on GTRs #05R & GTR #07R. The others all had a new front end which lacked those hood vents. Remember also, that these cars were customer owned, not factory teams. If McLaren made a design or engineering change the teams would then have to pay for those updates, so that explains why all the cars didn't receive the same changes each time.

To date, #07R is the only GTR I'm aware of that still wears those vents. #05R continued racing through the '98 FIA GT series, but had dropped the vents after the '95 season opting for the updated front end of the '96-spec GTRs. Maybe andybee can tell us more about those vents and the changes that were seen through the GTR development process.

>8^)
ER

:banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead: :grinno: :banghead:


ER

Exactly what I was thinking when I was reading that :lol2: . That is 001R in each of those three pictures. I too can see the ducts next to the headlight. I can see where they begin and end. And the inlet on the left side (transmission cooler?) is present on A and C. And black lettering is visible on the uderside of the side strakes.

001R in each, in my opinion.

-Drew

off topic.

lookie what i found:



Nice! Looks like Hans Stuck driving in the first picture. That is definately at Lime Rock although I'm not sure which year. 2002, maybe?

Nice! Looks like Hans Stuck driving in the first picture. That is definately at Lime Rock although I'm not sure which year. 2002, maybe?
it was at the vintage festival we went to

Exactly what I was thinking when I was reading that :lol2: . That is 001R in each of those three pictures. I too can see the ducts next to the headlight. I can see where they begin and end. And the inlet on the left side (transmission cooler?) is present on A and C. And black lettering is visible on the uderside of the side strakes.

001R in each, in my opinion.

-Drew
the black lettering on the strakes dont appear black on my screen, but instead a dark silver. the same color as the shady silver colouring around the cockpit in picture C. you cant blame me for how it appears on my computer screen.

so does anyone have an idea of the chronological order of the pictures?

the black lettering on the strakes dont appear black on my screen, but instead a dark silver. the same color as the shady silver colouring around the cockpit in picture C. you cant blame me for how it appears on my computer screen.



I'm not blaming anyone. That's fine with me if your screen shows silver. All I'm saying is that I see black in that spot and I'm agreeing with Peloton that it is all of the same car.

:)

I think the bare photos without the 'GTR' script would be the earliest photos available of #01R in complete form. There are other photos in "Driving Ambition" on those pages I mentioned which show the car under construction.

After that, it's very hard to say which of A, B or C came first. My guess based on the caption included with photo C is that it may be the next earliest as they say its of the car being given "...it's first high speed lap...".

Photo B was one of the McLaren press photos for the GTR prototype so it might be second or it may have been taken prior to the car seeing any track time.

Photo C could have come second as well. I think the fact that those vents are taped over doesn't necessarily mean they had changed the design at that time. Tape is often used on race cars to regulate how much cooling air can reach the radiators and oil coolers. In a colder climate, you still want the temperature to remain at a certain level and too much cold air won't allow an engine to reach proper operating temp. Tractor trailers also use covers to block the radiator in cold climates to keep operating temperature at a certain level. I think what appears to be tape over the two vertical slots in the front facia might actually be screens to keep debris from entering the vents.

If you look closely at the photo of the #39 car mini magic posted here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1249854&postcount=52) you can see that all three openings in the center of the front facia have mesh screen covering them.

>8^)
ER

this is from memory so i'm not sure,

but I think the GTR script is in a dark metiallic grey, sort of grahphite colour. I could be wrong, just hava a hunch. Didnt design it.

Also, the car did run in this livery at the Le Mans pre qualifying test. I have a book at home which has this in it, so I'll look tonight if I remember

does anyone have pics of the blue car with yellow wheels, not the clinic either?

Blue car with the yellow wheels was the Lanzante car raced in 96, which was one of the 95 GTC Gulf cars

andybee, good to see you back here. since this thread deals with the best mclaren pictures ever, could you pleeeaaase and i mean really pleeeeeaaaaaase post something of how the black lm's look? that would be a very big mystery solved, and you're about the only one who can do that.

THERE IS NO BLACK LM's! :banghead:

The only place they exist is in fairytaleland!

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong!

Driving ambition chart has several typos!

funnyman...:p
andybee was a graphical designer at mclaren at the time of the creation of the LM's and even he said they do exist.. andybee, another reason for you to show us something of them.

Regarding Andybee

I'm completely aware over who he is and I do not question his story! :nono:

I'm however convinced over that there was never any black LM's finished!
There is always alot of good ideas and planning that never is completed.

I have contact with a person who works at the McLaren factory which have been VERY spesific regarding the LM's as he has assembeled parts on ALL of them!

If Andybee can post a REAL picture of a black LM :disappoin :disappoin :eek7:


I will call him "OBI WAN" from now on! :iceslolan :lol: :rofl:

I would certainly be IMPRESSED if he could show anything like that! :iceslolan

Thorst - I hate to tell you this man, but you have incorrect info. Three separate sources outside of the poster have confirmed that two of the LMs ordered by the Brunei Royal Family were finished in black with graphics as the poster describes. I'm not sure who you talked to, but they were wrong man.

>8^)
ER

If Andybee can post a REAL picture of a black LM :disappoin :disappoin :eek7:


I will call him "OBI WAN" from now on! :iceslolan :lol: :rofl:

I would certainly be IMPRESSED if he could show anything like that! :iceslolan


I can tell you my source privately as I'm sure he won't like to be discussed in this forum! :sunglasse

NO PICTURES EVER! :nono:
Not even from McLaren! :banghead:


The sultan "other" cars seem pretty easy to trace........

Seen (only) one in the flesh. No pics I'm afraid. Not bothered in the slightest if you don't believe me, thats your problem

we sure as hell don't mind a look at a sketch of one, and I hearby beg you to make one as I am more than veryvery much interested in the car.

cant do that, already given more than I should away! However, I have alerted "someone" to this thread...

who goes by the (nick)name of? i'm so eager to find out more about the black gtr/lm's (01R, lm1, lm 4 and 09R) because i just love everything about them.

...well, you'll have to keep an eye on a new member, that assuming he can help

Andybee please do not be offended in any way!
I'm only beeing sceptical because I've recieved info that differs from the one you have!

I understand completely if you give a shit if I belive you or not!

I completely respect your involvment with the Mc!!
However,
I'm one of those who has to see, to belive! :naughty:

Lets not harass Andy (I don't mean you specifically Thorst) he's being very gracious with his time to share info here. As he stated he's already shared more than he should be in some cases so lets not push our luck or ask him to push his.

Pictures of the black LMs will surface one day - I'm quite certain. When they do, they will no doubt be posted here.

>8^)
ER

HOLD IT THERE!!!

I just want to say I never meant to harass andybee in any way! :sorry:

From my previous post in this tread I can see someone may think so, but that was never my intention!
I'm truly happy with that a man who has worked so close to the Mc can share it with everyone!

I was sipmly getting exited as I have never seen any proof of the blacks....

np!

Well on pages 1 and 2 i only see 2 pics of the blue mclaren and then load sof large attachmnets whuch after a long time downloaidng just give me this gobbledy gook meesage basically saying cant find the image. Shame i want high res images of the blue mclaren as the exoticcarsite.com only gives low res images :disappoin

Please tel me a way of accessing high res imahes of the blue mclaren and if any1 has high res images of the 1997 gulf mclaren gtr "longtail" it would be most appreciated!!

Don't know about "Best Picture Ever", that Blue coloured Big Mac, must rank as one of the Best F1's Ever!

Which chassis number is the blue car?

I wasn't able to find them online, so here they are:

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/42/F9/24569666-bf47-0257013E-.jpg

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/4D/FA/24569677-2d98-02570126-.jpg

Note that the lower front facia seen in these photos is slightly different that what you see in photo A & B of stratoraptor's earlier post. I think that these may be some of the first photos ever taken of #01R and that the revised facia came later in the development process.

BTW: If anyone has any others, please share as I want them too. :D

>8^)
ER

I strongly believe that this is actually #07R. It's identical to the photos I have taken of it at the trackday where i drove in it at Knockhill circuit in 1998. The front spoiler ducts and the two NACA ducts on the bonnet/hood are identical. I would be VERY surprised if it's not!

If I get ahold of a scanner I'll get them on the 'net. But don't hold your breath!

Given your info about the color of #07R when you saw it, you could very well be right. I always thought these pics were a little odd given that in all the other photos of #01R that can be confirmed as #01R it was wearing the "GTR" script across it's flanks. I know that's the way it rolled out of the factory when they completed it and couldn't think of a reason for them to remove it prior to the Ueno Clinic livery refit.

After looking at all the photos again, one other thing that is different with these shots is that #01R, in it's prototype livery, always had silver-colored wing end plates with "GTR" embossed in them whereas the car in these photos does not. It's a minor detail, but when you put it all together it just makes sense.

>8^)
ER

Given your info about the color of #07R when you saw it, you could very well be right. I always thought these pics were a little odd given that in all the other photos of #01R that can be confirmed as #01R it was wearing the "GTR" script across it's flanks. I know that's the way it rolled out of the factory when they completed it and couldn't think of a reason for them to remove it prior to the Ueno Clinic livery refit.

After looking at all the photos again, one other thing that is different with these shots is that #01R, in it's prototype livery, always had silver-colored wing end plates with "GTR" embossed in them whereas the car in these photos does not. It's a minor detail, but when you put it all together it just makes sense.

>8^)
ER


That's why I was a bit confused too, as 07R didn't have the GTR script across it, however my memory/anoraksia didn't run to remembering front spoiler/NACA inlet details, until I fished out the photo's I took of the car!

That IS 07R! No doubt about it! :smile:

only pic of a GTR with they vents is this one
http://www.tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02838.JPG
and
http://www.tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02837.JPG

only pic of a GTR with they vents is this one
http://www.tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02838.JPG
and
http://www.tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2006%2007%20London/05%20McLaren/DSC02837.JPG

That's 07R after being resprayed in Papaya, although, adding to the confusion here, the front spoiler looks different to when 'she' was in her Orange/Silver colour scheme. :screwy:

only pic of a GTR with they vents is this one

Maybe you weren't aware, but all of the early 1995 GTRs had those same vents in the nose to start with. #07R seems to be the only F1 GTR that still has them to this day though.

Here's a shot of 5 of the first 8 GTRs - #07R is on the far left:

http://speed.supercars.net/boardpics/2004-5-7/2337458-Peloton25a.jpg

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ER

thanks for that pic,i never knew about that.

The face of the GTRs changed slightly from their introduction - I can only assume due to different needs in the airflow and aerodynamics. You'll notice that the lower facia of the center Gulf car in that photo is unique - that's because GTR #04R was wrecked badly prior to that photo and the Gulf team replaced it with GTR #08R which when built had received an update to that area.

What makes it more complicated, is that each car was privately owned, so when McLaren Cars would identify and improvement or update, the teams all had to pay McLaren Cars to refit the car with it. In some cases like the Gulf GTC team I believe they went with each one that the factory offered, and they even replaced their 1995 GTRs with new 1996 models during the off season. However, the two cars on the right of that photo (GTR #03R and #06R) were run by Dave Price Racing and they chose to add their own updates to the cars for the 1996 race season.

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ER

...correct, the the two main differences between the DPR cars in 96 with the side sills and the carbon (not perspex) engine cover, which McLaren then adopted on the LTail

andybee,

Do you mean, "BPR"?

Greg A

No he meant 'DPR' as in "Dave Price Racing" - the Harrods and the West GTRs were campaigned by them.

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ER

in the Dream Garages book, they look at Lenos garage. There is a picture with his MC in it. did you know it?

Yes, I have that book - got it really cheap from Overstock.com, like $15.00 off the cover price. :thumbsup:

To be honest, I was actually more excited by the shots of his LCC Rocket. The picture with the Rocket and F1 is very cool though.

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ER

Yes, I have that book - got it really cheap from Overstock.com, like $15.00 off the cover price. :thumbsup:

To be honest, I was actually more excited by the shots of his LCC Rocket. The picture with the Rocket and F1 is very cool though.

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ER




Any chance of seeing that pic. here??

Unfortunately, I don't own a scanner yet. I've been debating whether to buy a oversized tabloid scanner or just get a standard one. I've also been looking for reviews and examples of the standard ones so I don't waste time with a crappy one. I'll get one eventually as I have lots of things that need scanning.

I could take a photo of the page for you later tonight, but I can't guarantee the quality will be all that spectacular. It's really not a great photo of his F1 as the Rocket overlaps most of the F1, but it is a great photo of the two cars together if that makes any sense.

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ER

no DPR as in the team

Thanks!

Greg A

Any chance of seeing that pic. here??

I put it in the Leno thread - you'll probably see it there, but I figured I'd provide a link here so no one misses it:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1909801&postcount=16

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ER

Hellosorry again, but i have just been looking at some of these posts and i would really like to see some of the pictures that were shown before as i only joined last month if anyone has these pictures can they repost because i am unable to see them unless there is some setting i need to change? thanks brad

I can only get 2 of the pics the 1st one and the interior with the hand opening the latch.

carbuilder2002

Am I correct in believing that Lanzante converted one of the 95 Gilf GTR's to a road going car. I say this because when I was looking for a GTR to photograph they said they had just finishes some work on a Gulf car and I was too late though they did have some bits I could photograph.

carbuilder2002

Ah thanks for finding out and answering my question car builder, the one i really wanted was the XP5 car , but thanks

Am I correct in believing that Lanzante converted one of the 95 Gilf GTR's to a road going car.Yes, although the conversion that they did was somewhat more basic than the standard factory version.