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nickh87
11-29-2007, 06:18 PM
Okay so i got around to installing my short ram intake, then i hop in the car throw it into reverse, get out of my driveway, throw it in park and the tranny slipped....i took it to a mechanic and they said 1st and 2nd gear were busted, basically i need a new tranny

3 weeks pass, i get my car bad today and i had purchased a rebuilt transmission and it works, but something still feels wrong, its like it doesnt run the same, problem is that i never got to feel the car with the intake, i know there wouldnt be much of a difference, but i dont know what the hell it is

my only questions are could the intake have impacted the failure of my transmission?

and with a rebuilt transmission, should the car feel any different than the stock tranny?

xeroinfinity
11-29-2007, 07:59 PM
Your year and engine size would help.....
but anyway the intake should Not have made the trany go out or act funny.

BUT if your IAT is bad or has a shorted wire it'll shift funky or may not shift at all. The IAT is in the air intake tube.
Or if your MAF wires are damaged it'll do simular odd things.

As far as the rebuilt trany acting different yes it could.
Thiers two different transmission used, the 4t40e and 4t45e and they have different gear ratios.
The 4045e is usualy in the sport modles with rear disc brakes and is geared lower.

Plus you get what you pay for, and not all trans shops are created equal. Meaning some buy or use what ever they can get and dont replace the shift soleniods or flush our any of the old contaminates from the trans lines and radiator cooler.

I have replaced my 99 GT's trans with a 2003 4t45e which in 2003 was the last of the trany updates.
I also just rebuilt a 4t45e for my 99 GA SE, I replaced everything done the work myself and still spent over $2500.

Also wouldnt hurt to have your fluid level checked.

Here is the link to my rebuild thread on one of these!
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=708108

Hope that helps & Good Luck

nickh87
11-29-2007, 11:43 PM
i have a 99 alero gl coupe with the rear disk breaks

i read your post and my intake was no done by a professional, it was done by my neighbor who is going to school to be a mechanic...but i dont think there was a problem with that.

Im really not sure which wire you are talking about, but when we were removing the stock intake, we removed wires that were connected to the intake as seen this this picture
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9058/enginebaysmallcz0.jpg

when we installed the aftermarket intake, we did not reconnect those wires anywhere, i dont know if that has anything to do with it, but we just tucked them off to the side

i have a picture of it installed, but its on my phone and its a hassle to get it on the computer, it doesnt show much, but please get back to me

xeroinfinity
11-30-2007, 08:52 AM
Well, the wires that you didnt connect are most likely the problem.
Could be why your trans went out. :eek:

See here for some testing and location help/tips for yout Alero.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2148

nickh87
11-30-2007, 11:35 AM
alrite thanks for your help, im just too confused by all of this, i went and rechecked the intake and theres no spot to put that wire back that pulled out of the stock intake, so im just going to take it back to the shop and demand that they do the job right

xeroinfinity
11-30-2007, 07:16 PM
All that is needed is a hole drilled into the air intake tube you are using. A rubber gromet would help seal it up.

With it not connected properly your car will read the intake air temp wrong. Could be reading it as 32deg, and you will burn extra fuel all the time, thinking its that cold.

nickh87
12-01-2007, 12:16 AM
i mean there is a hole on the intake tube, it is by the filter, it is the size of a penny

xeroinfinity
12-02-2007, 12:51 PM
If the hole is open, you'll need a rubber gromet to fit that hole, or at least tape over it if it is open. That would suck in debri bypassing the filter. :eek:

Most part stores sell the pieces need to fit the IAT into.

sorry for the delayed reply.

nickh87
12-02-2007, 08:26 PM
thats stupid, why would they sell an intake with a hole in the side

Iflylow
12-02-2007, 10:39 PM
thats stupid, why would they sell an intake with a hole in the side
So you wouldn't have to drill one to replace your IAT probe.:shakehead

nickh87
12-04-2007, 04:43 PM
So you wouldn't have to drill one to replace your IAT probe.:shakehead

and what is the IAT probe?

Iflylow
12-04-2007, 06:15 PM
IAT= Intake Air Temperature probe. It measures the temperature of the air coming into the engine. The computer uses this info to adjust the fuel/air mixture. The colder the air, the more fuel is necessary to maintain the correct mixture.

nickh87
12-04-2007, 08:33 PM
so is that what i circled in the picture or am i just confused?

Iflylow
12-08-2007, 04:02 PM
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. Yes, that is what you circled. You need to reinstall it, you car will never run right with it just pushed off to the side.

nickh87
12-12-2007, 01:28 PM
okay so i know whats wrong with it, i know what i have to do, but with the intake that is in the car, there is nowhere that the IAT probe fits, so do you suggest that i just rip the intake out and put the stock one back in?

Iflylow
12-12-2007, 02:19 PM
i mean there is a hole on the intake tube, it is by the filter, it is the size of a penny
That is where it should go. Put it in the hole they provided for it. If it is a different size, get a rubber grommet to make it fit.

xeroinfinity
12-12-2007, 04:59 PM
We done discused the grommet on the first page.... :uhoh:
If you dont know what a gromet is here are a few pics.

http://cableorganizer.com/images/rpd-grommets/RPD-grommet.jpg
http://www.keyelco.com/images/products/777.gif

That is what you need to attach the IAT, hope that helps clearify.

Iflylow
12-12-2007, 05:23 PM
We done discused the grommet on the first page.... :uhoh:

Agreed, but I couldn't put two quotes in my reply.:)

xeroinfinity
12-12-2007, 05:36 PM
Agreed, but I couldn't put two quotes in my reply.:)

That's OK !
I should have quoted nickh87's post.....

You can cut and paste, then use the quote tag= :grinyes:

nickh87
12-12-2007, 07:02 PM
thank you guys so much, i get my car back from the mechanic tonight, so tomorrow i will go to autozone and try to find one that fits my car

nickh87
12-12-2007, 07:14 PM
oh just another quick question, lol i noticed that end of the IAT probe is flat and the opening to th rubber grommet is a circle, does that matter or should i just look for one with the expandable membrane?

Iflylow
12-12-2007, 10:35 PM
Ask at autozone, they may have one that is made for your car. If not, just get a grommet that will seal it up best-you don't want air to be sucked in around the IAT probe, because that is unfiltered air.

nickh87
12-14-2007, 02:45 PM
okay so i went to autozone, they have no grommets at all, so im going to order one from the internet

new problem is that even if i have the grommet, the IAT probe doesnt reach the hole where i would plug it in, so should i just get a grommet to seal it up and not even bother plugging in the wire or what?

and if the IAT probe is not plugged in, is there any consequence like wasted fuel or anything?

xeroinfinity
12-14-2007, 02:53 PM
WHAT! THe ZOnes out of grommets! ?
Any I've been in has had them in the assorted parts section, though any part store should carry them, just the zones cheapest usualy.

Yeah if it isnt hooked up you'll be burning excessive amounts of fuel for sure.
Even with it not in the air intake your wasting gas because the PCM cant calibrate A>F ratios properly with out knowing the temprature of the incoming air.

nickh87
12-14-2007, 03:21 PM
wow this is going to suck, i wont have this car much longer but my mom is going to take it and im going to feel bad knowing im giving her a disaster

Iflylow
12-15-2007, 11:20 PM
You can probably find an assortment of grommet sizes at Lowes or Home Depot also...
Plug the original hole in the intake with something...drill a new hole the correct size for your IAT...insert IAT...seal with something...done.
It's not a big disaster, just a normal part of modding...nothing is as easy as it looks.

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