Mine is Jeff Gordon. Post yours here.

Go on. Flame me people. :D

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I like Jeff Gordon too! :D

But I think all Racers should be recognized.



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Woohooo!!! Another Jeff Gordon Fan!! :D

What's up!!

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Dale Jarrett #88

Well, my favourite is Jeff Gordon as well :)

Looks like we are all Jeff Gordon fans...me toooo :D :D

hmmm i would have to say sterling marlen on the subjet of gorden he is a extremly sliked driver no one can deny it but he makes me sick i wish he would go over to cart

Are you guys kidding me...Gordon? Dale and Dale Jr are the past and the future of NASCAR. Dale made NASCAR what it is today and Dale Jr. will carry the sport into the future.

DOG

Chalk another one for Jeff Gordon.:D

I'm the only one who has posted in this thread who:

1) Has an American Flag beside screenname

2) Has listed Dale and Dale Jr. as their favorite driver.

Looks like true Americans favor #3 and #8, while "others" are Gordon fans.

Originally posted by Maddog
I'm the only one who has posted in this thread who:

1) Has an American Flag beside screenname

2) Has listed Dale and Dale Jr. as their favorite driver.

Looks like true Americans favor #3 and #8, while "others" are Gordon fans.

Your point?:huh:

Since when do threads such as this have a "point?" What was the "point" of asking about a favorite NASCAR driver? Does the composer of this thread truly care who I, Maddog, favor in NASCAR? A thread such as this is purely for entertainment. Thus, no particular "point" must be made. Its not as though we were discussing superchargers, suspension or the like. Simply entertainment my friend. If by oversight, I have missed the "point" of this thread, I am truly sorry, and will refrain from posting anything lacking in substance and relavent information. I don't know about you, but the knowledge I've gained in this insightful, point-filled thread is immense to say the very least....Thank you....keep the knowledge and points coming!!!


DOG

Originally posted by Maddog
Since when do threads such as this have a "point?" What was the "point" of asking about a favorite NASCAR driver? Does the composer of this thread truly care who I, Maddog, favor in NASCAR? A thread such as this is purely for entertainment. Thus, no particular "point" must be made. Its not as though we were discussing superchargers, suspension or the like. Simply entertainment my friend. If by oversight, I have missed the "point" of this thread, I am truly sorry, and will refrain from posting anything lacking in substance and relavent information. I don't know about you, but the knowledge I've gained in this insightful, point-filled thread is immense to say the very least....Thank you....keep the knowledge and points coming!!!


DOG

Listen carefully "Friend", I was referring to the comment YOU made about "True Americans". I don't particularly care for content or what have you! As to having a point, what did having an "American Flag" next to their name and "Looks like true Americans favor #3 and #8, while "others" are Gordon fans", have to do with anything? Thank you.

Relax man, I was simply looking for some friendly bantar about the Dale vs. Jeff rivalry. However, since we now seem to be enthralled in a rather serious discussion regarding my inflamatory post, I will offer my refutation.

While not directed specifically at you, it appears that many who responded to this thread citing their support of Gordon were not Americans (Estonia, New Zealand, etc). Absolutely nothing is wrong with their support of Gordon, in fact I applaud their support of NASCAR from across the globe. However, I would wager they have never witnessed a Winston Cup Event in person. (I haven't seen many Estonians at Bristol :D ) Therefore, they cannot possibly fully grasp the sport of stock car racing. Going to a race adds a new demension to the sport that only those who have attened said events will fully comprehend. Thus, they show their support for Gordon without fully recognizing all aspects of this sport.

Truth be told, I'm not the consumate NASCAR fan. While I do attend at least one major race each year, I prefer SEC football to any motorsports. I was simply trying to inject this thread and the NASCAR forum with a little spice. Do I really care if you or others favor Gordon? Of course not, just wanted to incite a bit of controversy. Thanks for the replies!

Dog

:smoka:

Originally posted by Maddog

Truth be told, I'm not the consumate NASCAR fan. While I do attend at least one major race each year, I prefer SEC football to any motorsports. I was simply trying to inject this thread and the NASCAR forum with a little spice. Do I really care if you or others favor Gordon? Of course not, just wanted to incite a bit of controversy. Thanks for the replies!

Dog

:smoka:

That is all that was needed to be said. Now, as for the rivalry, you just made cuz Gordon right now stands the biggest chance to take it this year!!!:D:D:D I follow the races closely but, unfortunately, never attended one race. There aren't any raceways around me.

Indeed, Gordon has looked good this year. I respect the hell out of his racing abilities, just never been much of a fan of his. That's too bad about not being able to make it to a race. Although I don't live there now, when I go back home the track at Bristol is only about 20 min. from my house, so I usually make it to the Spring race. It's getting harder and harder to get tickets though (especially to the night race). Even with the new additions to the stands, you pretty much have to pay outrageous amounts to see a Winston event.


Dog

Based on current statistics, this year is tending to be NASCAR's best year to date. Sales of merchandise has gone up. I'm even in this online thing called Small World racing. Basically you pick 4 drivers that make up your team. You're then trying to rack up point to be #1. Kinda hard though. But as usual, Gordon has never left my roster. For this weekends race, I have Marlin, Rusty and Bodine. I just need them to be in the top 10 to make some good points.

Just found out: jeff Gordon is the champion again! Oh yeah!:D :ylsuper :ylsuper

Jeff gordon

my favorite driver is jeff gordon i am a true die-hard fan. i dislike tony stewart and dale jarret with a passion.:mad: . Reply to this message I love talking to Jeff Gordon fans.:D

I have to say I'm a Tony Punk'n Head Stewart fan. And look who won the Bud Shoot Out for the 2nd year in a row! GO 20!

Dale Earnhardt and Dale, Jr.
Although I will admit to pulling for Kenny Shrader, just because of his drive.

I started watching racing in the late '80s, and the only races you had even a shot of catching on TV were Cup races, so I watched them. Big E was still a rising star, and I work at a GM dealer, so he was a natural for me to root for.

I've been to a few races:
1999 Daytona 500
1999 MBNA 400 (Dover)
2000 Winston
2001 Virginia 500 (Martinsville)

I actually prefered Martinsville. You can see the whole track, the action is intense and there are cars no matter where you look.

My favorites have to be Dale Earnhardt, Dale Jr, and Harvick.

I hate Jeff Gordon with a passion. I respect him as good driver, but he's always the good boy, can't the guy ever show his bad side? You always hear about Tony, Rusty or Earnhardt, about having bad tembers. Doesn't Gordon ever get out of line?

I'm still amazed it's already been a whole year and Dale's gone. I remember sitting in front of the computer on Nascar.com for a full 5 minutes without blinking just totally stunned. I was so looking foward to a 8th Championship that year.

It took me forever to move on from Dale's death. But now I'm looking towards Jr. taking a championship home this year. So far after the Daytona 500 today it isn't starting off too well.

I am a Joe Gibbs race fan.Also Mark Martin,Terry Labonte,Dale Jr and Jarrett.

i have a question:

I cant deny the drawing power of nascar, but what really is hte draw? watching 3500lb, steel framed, pushrod powered rolling billboards crash into each other for hours upon hours. It is the least technically advanced racing fair out there. The thought of variable valve timing, and turbos would make a nascar diehard fan pass out. whats the big deal? why do some americans love it so much??? and the favorite driver? umm, dont they all just drive in a big circle? i could be wrong.

Never seen a NASCAR race, have you! Dont know jack shit about cars do you! Until you have a clue as to how much technology and the level of difficulty there is, keep your shit hole shut! Ignorant SOB!:flipa:



Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i have a question:

I cant deny the drawing power of nascar, but what really is hte draw? watching 3500lb, steel framed, pushrod powered rolling billboards crash into each other for hours upon hours. It is the least technically advanced racing fair out there. The thought of variable valve timing, and turbos would make a nascar diehard fan pass out. whats the big deal? why do some americans love it so much??? and the favorite driver? umm, dont they all just drive in a big circle? i could be wrong. :flipa:

umm, yes i have seen several races, and i'm not impressed. but are you saying that WRC cars, and F1 cars and things of the like are less technically advanced? really, there isnt too much tech. in those nascars. and from the races i've seen, all you do is go around in a big oval. i'd rather be going on an actual road course where skill is needed. like in le mans racing, or gran prix. WRC racing is probably the ultimate of skill in my opinion. and uhh, i'm not taking out of my shit hole or whatever you called it.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
umm, yes i have seen several races, and i'm not impressed. but are you saying that WRC cars, and F1 cars and things of the like are less technically advanced? really, there isnt too much tech. in those nascars. and from the races i've seen, all you do is go around in a big oval. i'd rather be going on an actual road course where skill is needed. like in le mans racing, or gran prix. WRC racing is probably the ultimate of skill in my opinion. and uhh, i'm not taking out of my shit hole or whatever you called it.

If you dont like NASCAR because you dont know shit about it, DONT KNOCK IT! The space shuttle has more technology than any WRC or F1 car, but they are two completly diffarent things.

yeah great, a nasa rocket ship is a space travel machine, and an F1 racer is a car. but nascar and WRC/le mans/F1/JGTC/Gran Prix are very similiar....they're all race types. good try though.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
yeah great, a nasa rocket ship is a space travel machine, and an F1 racer is a car. but nascar and WRC/le mans/F1/JGTC/Gran Prix are very similiar....they're all race types. good try though.

OK fine! Stack you beloved WRC/le mans/F1/JGTC/Gran Prix race car up against a NHRA top fuel dragster on any 1/4 mile and they will get their asses handed to them all day long. You need to find the door on this thread. Ignorance is seeping out your pours. We can compare apples and oranges all day long, but neither one will become the other.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
and from the races i've seen, all you do is go around in a big oval. i'd rather be going on an actual road course where skill is needed

Also NASCAR does run road courses, but you wouldnt know that, would you. Watkins Glen, Sears Point...

yeah, obviously a top fuel dragster would beat any F1 or WRC car. and who is comparing apples to oranges? top fuel dragsters and WRC cars?? you better check yourself before you come attacking me and callin me ignorant. i just want to know what the draw to nascar is. seeping out of my pours is it? :finger4:

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
yeah, obviously a top fuel dragster would beat any F1 or WRC car. and who is comparing apples to oranges? top fuel dragsters and WRC cars?? you better check yourself before you come attacking me and callin me ignorant. i just want to know what the draw to nascar is. seeping out of my pours is it? :finger4:

They're all race cars arent they, just like you cant compare F1 to NASCAR. They are diffarent types of racers and diffarent types of races. And until you can relize the expectation and limitations of each diffarent circuits I can't concider you a race fan at all!

I am a race fan, but i focus on more than just nascar. i dont focus on nascar at all really. I side with the rest of the known racing world. do you know what the rest of their opinons are? all the european classes look at it as a bunch of yankee american rednecks, a travesty to the racing world. give me the challenging and sophisticated taste of the JGTC, or Le Mans. and by the way, i didnt know they raced on road courses. i've only seen those damn oval races.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
all the european classes look at it as a bunch of yankee american rednecks, a travesty to the racing word

Once again you are wrong, there are several redneck yankees in the Euro classes

i wont take what you say to heart unless you give names and examples....otherwise, your talkin out YOUR shit hole. :finger4:

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i wont take what you say to heart unless you give names and examples....otherwise, your talkin out YOUR shit hole. :finger4:

Tony Stewart jumped into the Northern Light Indy Racing Series in 1996, where he won rookie of the year. He also was named Indianapolis 500 Rookie of the Year before winning the IRL championship in 1997. He completed the arduous Indy 500/Coca-Cola 600 double in 1999, finishing ninth and fourth, respectively. The former karting champion made history by winning the USAC Midget, Sprint Car and Silver Crown championships in 1995, one year after he won the USAC national Midget championship.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i wont take what you say to heart unless you give names and examples....otherwise, your talkin out YOUR shit hole. :finger4:

Robby Gordon
Michael Andretti
Scott Pruet
Tony Stewart

Let me tell you why I like Nascar.Nascar has different tracks in size from a half mile to 2.66 superspeedways to road courses.Drivers have come back as far back as 38th to win races.Terry Labonte won the WC without winning a race a couple of years ago.You have 3 wide racing at some tracks that are not designed for it.Qualifying is done from the pole position to 38th with a 5 mile difference between them.Pit stops are a vital factor as well.So to say which series is best is crap BECAUSE EACH IS DIFFERENT IN ITS OWN RIGHT.:flipa:

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i dont focus on nascar at all really. I side with the rest of the known racing world. do you know what the rest of their opinons are?

I could care less about the opinions of the "known racing world." My guess is these opinions by this racing world you speak of are tainted with jealousy as they too would like to reach the level of following NASCAR has achieved.

By the way, just curious, but if you don't focus on Nascar at all, why are you so compelled to post in a Nascar thread?
Dog

Hey Maddog,these asses have not been back since so that tells me they don't know crap and just want to run off theie mouths.:smoka:

i'm still here :D

yep, its tainted by jealousy...look how popular nascar is in foreign countries. its not at all, jgtc, le mans, f1, gran prix....all of those are much more popular in europe and japan than nascar is here.

oh yeah, and i am stilll here, just was out of town fora week. and why am i so compelled? i want to know what the attraction is.....

go #24.My favorite is Jeff Gordon.:sun:

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
yep, its tainted by jealousy...look how popular nascar is in foreign countries. its not at all, jgtc, le mans, f1, gran prix....all of those are much more popular in europe and japan than nascar is here.

oh yeah, and i am stilll here, just was out of town fora week. and why am i so compelled? i want to know what the attraction is.....

If you give yourself a chance to like it, I'll bet you'll be hooked. Pick out a driver you like and follow them for a season. I'll bet you will be watching them again the next season.

i have given it a chance....its kinda been rammed down my throat since nascar is pretty much the only thing on speedvision now.....what a travesty. now i cant watch or keep up with any of the euro classes, or jgtc:(

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i have given it a chance....its kinda been rammed down my throat since nascar is pretty much the only thing on speedvision now.....what a travesty. now i cant watch or keep up with any of the euro classes, or jgtc:(

Then why the hell are you in here????

Originally posted by bluez28guy


Then why the hell are you in here????

Exactly. I don't post on the F1 on Le Mans board because I don't give a shit about it.

Dog

i think i answered that earlier, i wanna know what the draw is......when theres more challenging and therefore more exciting types of racing out there, why nascar?

Originally posted by ImportNut1212
i think i answered that earlier, i wanna know what the draw is......when theres more challenging and therefore more exciting types of racing out there, why nascar?

I'll agree that in most situations the types of racing you listed are indeed more challenging. However, this does not necessarily translate into more exciting. I tried to watch other types of racing, and while I appreciate the skill level required to race F1s, Le Mans, etc, I personally find NASCAR to be much more exciting. I love the rubbing and bumping of NASCAR, the off track confrontations, the driver personalitites, and the race day atmoshphere of a NASCAR race.

I know it's not for everybody and the same can be said for the types of racing you enjoy. I could care less about "converting" you into a NASCAR fan or pleading with you to give it a chance. If you don't like it, fine. Not everybody likes the same shit.

Dog

Gordon sucks!;) :D Dale Jr's my favorite.:)

Tony Stewart is my favorite driver. :flipa: <-only put that in 'cos it's orange!

Tony Stewart #20 :) :monkeypisJeff Gordon #24

The usenick and the Avatar says it all!
Dale Earnhardt Jr for Life!!!

Tony Stewart for wrecking Gordon in the pits last year (i think it was last year), revenge is sweet. Not trying to start a flame, but gordon is a dirty racer and deserved it.

I actually like Michael Waltrip quite a bit. Mark Martin too.. damn.. I have no favorites. Kurt Busche?

I don't like Kurt Busch. Tony all the way!

I think we all realize he's a dirty racer... I can't wait till it's Gordon and Rusty nose to tail coming to the checkered flag, at any track... Just to see Rusty plant him into the wall... teach you to bump and run... Just like Jimmy Spencer said about Kurt Busch, "When I hit back, he won't finish".... I hope Rusty takes that to heart too :finger:

Im glad to see Jerry Nadeau finally have a good week.

This goes out to the NASCAR Fans!
Im all about nascar live and die nascar
Fav. Nascar Driver : Dale Jr.#8


:flipa: That is for you import cocksucking bitches!:finger:

This is a nascar thread take your import crap else where.

Originally posted by triplerc
This goes out to the NASCAR Fans!
Im all about nascar live and die nascar
Fav. Nascar Driver : Dale Jr.#8


:flipa: That is for you import cocksucking bitches!:finger:

This is a nascar thread take your import crap else where.

What a deep, well thought-out, eloquent, and beautiful response. :flipa:

That is for you import cocksucking bitches!

Dang! I will say its a pretty funny quote and im glad to see he likes the right driver.

I like anyone that drives for Dodge. I really dislike Tony Stewart, Rubberhead, and Robbie Gordon, damn tossers!

I'm a Rusty Wallace fan. Although I also like Jeff Gordon's style. Jeff won Watkins Glen last week "Twice". He was intentionally rubbed and bumped off twice, 1st lap and last lap. Grrrrr. I would have been soooo pissed. All I can say at Michigan is Jeff deserves the win and "Go Rusty"!!! :sly:

He was intentionally rubbed and bumped off twice, 1st lap and last lap. Grrrrr. I would have been soooo pissed.

What goes around, comes around.

ROBBY gordon won watkins glen, jeff crashed on the last lap

ROBBY gordon won watkins glen, jeff crashed on the last lap

And it was his fault, no matter how much he whines about it. He probably would have gotten 5th had he stayed out of the groove.

:dupe:

yea i dont know what his problem was, it was a pretty lame move :2cents:

not really any drivers i dislike. i all-time favorite is newman, but i am also a big fan of stewart, the labontes, and martin.

No. 2 all the way!

My favorites are:
Kasey Kahne- My all-time favorite, I really think he will be NASCAR's next superstar.
Bill Elliott- Awesome Bill!
Jeremy Mayfield- Still has winning left in him.
Mark Martin- The first NASCAR driver I ever cheered for.
Dave Blaney- Always been a fan.

Don't Like:
Jimmy Spencer
Rusty Wallace
Brian Vickers
Kyle Petty
Michael Waltrip

My favorite drivers?
DAVE BLANEY AND TONY RAINES!!!

I must say though, I have followed Jimmie Johnson since his ASA days and I like everything about him, except who he drives for. I also think Kasey Kahne is starting to catch my eye. I liked him in Busch, but to be honest, I though wasn't gonna do a damned thing in Cup, but it seems as if I'm wrong! Also look for for David Stremme to kick a little ass soon in Busch and hopefully in Cup.

My favorite drivers?
DAVE BLANEY AND TONY RAINES!!!

I must say though, I have followed Jimmie Johnson since his ASA days and I like everything about him, except who he drives for. I also think Kasey Kahne is starting to catch my eye. I liked him in Busch, but to be honest, I though wasn't gonna do a damned thing in Cup, but it seems as if I'm wrong! Also look for for David Stremme to kick a little ass soon in Busch and hopefully in Cup.

Yeah Blaney is my favorite "underdog", he ran very strong at Atlanta and Daytona, hopefully he'll get a sponsor soon. I really didn't expect Stremme to do well in Busch, but he surprised me a lot. Chip has an eye for talent.

Actually Stremme drives for Braun, a team out of Winamac, Indiana. They are partnered with Chip Ganassi and Felix Sabates, but Todd Braun is actually the one who brought David up to where he is now. Braun and Stremme raced late models with my dad at Plymouth Speedway and South Bend Motor Speedway, in northern Indiana just a few years ago and thats how he was discovered.

Never knew Braun was the one who brang him up, everywhere I looked Ganassi got the credit.

Dale Jarret is my favorite. Jeff Gordon would be my least favorite

Rusty Wallace would have to be my favorite...and ironicly next would be Tony Stewart

Rusty Wallace would have to be my favorite...and ironicly next would be Tony Stewart

TFF

My fave is still Smoke the Asshole.

^^i bet the grass in very intimidated

My buddy broke the rear end. Ran the deck into a hill a jamed it all up. We just picked up another one today. It is in fair condition and runs good. The #8 will be coming out soon. We where building a deck and the home owners asked if we wanted it for free. Told us to get it out of the way.

My buddy broke the rear end. Ran the deck into a hill a jamed it all up. We just picked up another one today. It is in fair condition and runs good. The #8 will be coming out soon. We where building a deck and the home owners asked if we wanted it for free. Told us to get it out of the way.

you should just go to places, ask to cut their lawn for money, and have a big race between like 5 mowers.. you guys would be the fastest mowing company around.

That was our plan but we are waiting to find out the regulations on the wing

All living legends. Dale junior wins so often, he has flames on the sides of his eyes. Then Rusty, never let's those kids get away from him, and always runs up front in the pack top 10. Tony Sterart? :grinno: (cough cough)Then of course the world's most noted legendary highly recognized race car driver of all time, Jackie Stewart.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=503/85285565105m12jet.jpg

Who can bring it around? Who can highball at 190mph+ and bring it up front? Not many make it to highball up front, and very few stay there for very long. It's chess on wheels! Who can bring it around?! That is the question!...:sunglasse

"GOD LOVES NASCAR" :loser:

Jeff Gordon is my favorite

I hate Dale Earnhardt Jr

Jimmie Johnson! I like Mark Martin but the man is getting old so I figured it was time to pick a new driver and thats how I ended up with 48. I just want to see Gordan get 8 championships or atleast 7 to piss off the earnhardt fans. ANYBODY BUT DALE!

Are you guys kidding me...Gordon? Dale and Dale Jr are the past and the future of NASCAR. Dale made NASCAR what it is today and Dale Jr. will carry the sport into the future.

DOG
Is little Taylor going to race too? :iceslolan

i have a question:

I cant deny the drawing power of nascar, but what really is hte draw? watching 3500lb, steel framed, pushrod powered rolling billboards crash into each other for hours upon hours. It is the least technically advanced racing fair out there. The thought of variable valve timing, and turbos would make a nascar diehard fan pass out. whats the big deal? why do some americans love it so much??? and the favorite driver? umm, dont they all just drive in a big circle? i could be wrong.
That's stupid :iceslolan :screwy: :screwy:

I'm a big fan of Roush Racing. The first driver I ever really followed was Mark Martin. Mark is a champion in my eyes no matter if he has the trophy or not. Carl Edwards is an incredible driver and a really good person too. When he won the truck race at Daytona last year he gave the trophy to a kid that was with him. I place Kurt Busch right up there with Jeff Gordon as one of the best drivers in the series right now and I think if anyone has what it takes to repeat the title these days its Kurt. Greg Biffle and Matt Kenseth are both great drivers as well.
Other than the Roush drivers I'm also a big fan of Kasey Kahne, Tony Stewart, and Kyle Busch.

I was a huge Earnhardt, sr. fan and i although i don't like jr. nowhere near the same, he is still an earnhardt. also though, looking forward to watching dave blaney behind the wheel of the new Jack Daniels car.

Another Jr. Fan here. Though, I like Ryan Newman as well.

I like Dale Earnhardt Jr., but I still think he is a few years from a title. He is just lacking the bulletproof consistency some of these other teams like Roush and Hendrick have. Just my opinion I could be completely wrong. Kasey Kahne is my favorite by far if I could only pick one driver out there although Carl Edwards is getting closer. He is having a lot of bad luck so far, but I think it can be somewhat attributed to the softer tires.

Bobby Labonte not a very good to the start of this season but its still early.

Hehe i need to take pics of my room for you ppl all jr everywhere.Even a piece of the daytona 500 winning cars tire. But for Busch series Truex jr of course. And for the trucks other than DW nebody in a Toyota.

Mark Martin, been my favorite ever since I started following NASCAR's premere series in 1994...lookin for a title finally in his last full season, looks like it's gonna be tough, with his best competition coming from his teammates.

Oh yeah and when he retires, I'll be pulling for his roush teammates.

martin is my second fav hands down its a shame to see him retire i think he still competive enought im pulling for him to win the champsionchip this year.

lol yeah...I actually have one of his race tires...big ol' flat spot on it from when he locked up trying to avoid a wreck at Talledega...makes a great small speaker mount :)

Killer i want a whole jr tire. like i said i have a piece of the race winning daytona 500 tire. There was a whole tire on ebay but when i went to the website it just said order a tire from a race track no driver specific thing.

Bobby Labonte, granted he's not a title contender and he's been struggling, but he's still one heck of a driver because he's one of the rare, but true, clean drivers. He races you hard without putting you in the wall. If more drivers were like him, we wouldn't have guys slugging each other after races b/c they were putting each other in the wall!

My all-time favorite is Jeff Gordon. Like him or not you can't dispute he is one of the USAs best ever.