OK seriously. It is November 27th 2002 and I see Weigert's w8 for sale again on Ebay.

This marks AT LEAST the 6-8th time it has been on there in the last year!

Only once was there a bidding war. All the other times no one has bid on it.

He is so stupid, he keeps the min. bid waaay too high and his ego won't let him lower it.

LET'S START COUNTING!

We'll call this one # 6.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873324159

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# 7 !!! December 4th 2002

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874092549

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HEY! He finally lowered the price! Bidding starts at $98,500!

Maybe he saw this thread! :p

yea but that's a cool car...not. HARHAR HARHAR HARH HARH HAHRHAHRH AHRA AHRHARHARH RAHRAHAHRAHRHAHARAHRHARHARHRAHRAHAR!

Hey I'll rip on him and his cars may flip over when you get near 200 and be totally unreliable, but I do think they are COOL!

...nah

Ok then. Thanks for playing.

Dude, the W8 is soooooooooo UGLY. How can you think it is cool!
NOW, the M12 is cool!:smoker2:

What's with you dudes busting my chops?

:rolleyes:

That really isn't even the point of this thread!

At least the w8 is original and I do like how it looks - A LOT - the m12 is a kit car with a Lamborghini motor.

I know this isn't the point of the thread, even though i did see the w8 on ebay in :smoker2: JUNE!:smoker2: I just think it is ugly. the M12 has style and HUGE air intakes!

That's cool if you like the m12.

Maybe I am just a product of the 80's. I like the hard lines of the w8.

Here is a nice pic:

http://www.3reef.com/fish/sitepics/vectorblack.jpg

What are the performance stats of the w8? hp, top speed, 0-60.....:confused:

Is $98,500 a good price for a Vector? Who makes the engine & are replacement parts readily available?

Lamborghini makes the engines i think and i don't know where you are going to find replacement parts? what car are you buying/selling?

Actually I believe the m12 is only one with a Lamborghini motor. The w8 has a aluminum block bi-turbo v8.

The w8 does 0-60 in the low fours, I think it is 4.2 secs.
The top speed was never verified. Weigert would throw out numbers like 240 mph, but that is commonly believed to be BS due to poor aerodynamics.

More likely it is closer to 180 mph. Above that and the front end starts to lift and the car could flip like a race boat!

A couple years into production they started putting ground effects on it to stablize it. I don't know what effect this really had.

$98,500 is not bad actually. Most go for around $100k. It is rare to see them for sale except for this pre-production model that Weigert has been trying to sell for over a year. The cheapest one sold for $60k in a used car lot in Japan. I saw a picture of that. I couldn't believe it. I don't think they knew what they had. Somebody got a helluva deal.

I don't think his is in the best shape of the ones out there. I don't know for sure, but I would check for all the parts. ;)

Parts would be a big concern if I bought one. I hear the customer service ain't that great. And getting someone who has the knowledge to work on this exotic would be very expensive.

If I were rich, I would buy one anyway and drive it into the ground. Which probably wouldn't take that long as they are notoriously unreliable.

I saw a video on the internet of a w8 doin' almost 200 before it lifted of, landed on the rear and exploded.

I saw a video on the internet of a w8 doin' almost 200 before it lifted of, landed on the rear and exploded. Arn't vector's american?

Ok lowridder I am going to call you out on that video. If you are serious, please do your best to find it again and post a link here.

I am sure there are million people besides me that would love to see that.

Yes, they were American made. The w8's were made in Wilmington, Ca I believe and the m12s were made in Florida.

I saw it on Kaazza or morpheus or limewire a while ago. I downloaded it of there. I can't really put a link to that :(

lowridder11 - " I just think it (the W-8) is ugly. the M12 has style and HUGE air intakes!"

Both cars have their good styling points. I find it hard to believe you would think the W-8 is super ugly and the M-12 is stylish. Both cars are your typical exotic car styling. There was no ground breaking styling with ethier car. Both cars have serious mechanical and design issues. The qulaity of the M-12 from the factory was more along the lines of a Yugo then a Ferrari. Only mechanically skilled owners or owners with deep pockets have been able to keep W-8s or M-12s on the road. Both cars were developed on tiny budgets when compared to other vehicles. Considering the history of Vector, it is amazing they built any cars.


DMC12 - "Is $98,500 a good price for a Vector? Who makes the engine & are replacement parts readily available?"

$98,500 is fair market value for most Vectors right now. Vectors is great shape are around $130,000. Buyer beware that parts can be hard to get. The departure of David Kostca from Aqua Jet/Avtech Motors/Vector Supercars has given W-8 owners a chance to hire one of the key developers of the W-8. David knows these cars inside and out. Some owners have spent more on repair and up keep ont eh their W-8s then they paid for the car.


lowridder11 - "I saw a video on the internet of a w8 doin' almost 200 before it lifted of, landed on the rear and exploded. I saw it on Kaazza or morpheus or limewire a while ago. I downloaded it of there. I can't really put a link to that "

You must be mistaken. I know the ultimate Vector W-8 tracker and have followed W-8s for many years. I have interviewed Wiegert and met many key people with Vector. I have lists of current and past pwners. I know the history of most of the production cars and the company. Never have any of the W-8s or M-12s flipped. Until you find proof to back up your claim, I would say you are wrong.

You are probably right on saying that i was probably mistaking on the video i saw but who knows, i saw what i saw! And i'm just saying i like the M12 more than the W8. I;m not sayin it's my favorite exotic car.

Ok, back to the subject...

December 17th, 2002.
#8

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1875041262


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By the way, no bids in the last 4 or 5 trys. DOH!

Oh My God! He lowerd the price! This guy is very stupid. Maybe if he put it in Dupont regitry or www.dupontregisty.com or www.carsdirect.com or www.cars.com he might actually sell it:aug2:

Wow, it actually looks pretty cool for a Vector:
http://www.vectorsupercars.com/vsc0202_12.jpg

sweet....where on the net

I don't know much about the W8, but I'm pretty sure it has an all alluminum 6 litre engine made by general motors and that bad boy has a non-proven 218 top speed. I don't know if it's true but I also heard it has a 3 speed automatic from GM. If any of you guy's jam out on playstations get Gran-Turismo II. They have Vectors there in the south city. I have a yellow W-8 pushin' 758 horses, and it can woop just 'bout anything in that game. Of course it's just a game, I have no idea what it could really do.

my Suzuki Escudoes Pike Peek racer could kill ur W8, but thats not the point

I have a yellow W-8 pushin' 758 horses, and it can woop just 'bout anything in that game. The only real yellow W-8 made was modified by its second owner. The claim is the bhp reached 1000. The current owner is sorting the car out. That series of modificatiosn was done by people who do not know the W-8. This meant they caused some problems. The current owner has been done extensive work to fix the patchwork of modifications doen to it.

I do think video games sometimes give cars more performance in the game then they would get in real life. The W-8 is a solid straight line car, but through the turns it struggles when compared with other high performance cars built around the W-8 production time, such as the McLaren F1, Porsche 911 Turbo, and so on.

There is no traction control of anykind on the W-8. The GM 3-speed automoatic transmission is a disadvantage for the W-8. I would think a 6-speed Corvette Z06 could out run a stock W-8 on a twisty race course. The Z06 has 405 bhp and the W-8 with 630 bhp. Kind of sad to think a car with 225 bhp less would be faster, but there is a 10 year difference between the cars. There is also $60,000 average price difference between a used W-8 and a new Z06. If you just compare when new prices, then there is hundred of thousands of dollars difference between the two models.

I saw a video on the internet of a w8 doin' almost 200 before it lifted of, landed on the rear and exploded.

Are you serious???? Was it on a track? Did the driver get killed?? :(

the vector w8 is a real american exotic car much like the saleen, american engine and american design, people that think its ugly are retarded, it looks the same boxy-ness of the lamborghini countach, the m12 i don't feel is american, true it was built in florida, but a lamborghini engine that cut the power of the original plan by half, the wx-3 the wiegert design, was supposed to have near 1000hp, the same as todays bugatti veyron. and for those that think the escudo from gran turismo 2 is great, relize you are comparing a purpose built race car against a street car, the only thing that's the same is they both have engines, and that's really it, in august 2006 gerry showed up to a car show in CA with a new avtech, i haven't seen pics or heard anything else about it, but he was probably attempting to sell his w8, to either get an idea of what to price his new car at, or trying to get money to produce the new one more reliabley. there is only one recorded accident involving a vector, it was a black w8, i'm not sure as to weather it was a test or on a road though. and niether car is a ground breaking type of car, ithey were designed to compete with ferrari lotus and lambo.

Are you serious???? Was it on a track? Did the driver get killed?? :(

That was crash testing footage. They corrected the lift issue with a front spoiler as seen on the later models.

Weigert has sold his W8, and it's been repainted a darl blue color.