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Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Alright well ill show you the sad drawing im doing .. ( sketch so far ) , im not good at doing rims unless they are easy peasy.. if anyones got any drawings of rims they did... or rims truned out and such thatd be awsome thanks!
and if theres all pointers too thaatd be rad .. thanks guys!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/burtonbabekyrstie/MotegiDP6.jpg Ze rims.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/burtonbabekyrstie/car24-1.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/burtonbabekyrstie/DSCF0919.jpgI want the tires to look more sharply turned then that .. so it shows more of the rim.. im sure you guys know what imean..unless im dumb ahah.http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/burtonbabekyrstie/DSCF0744.jpg Thats it right now... ill start actually going heavier when i am ready to color the damn thing ( no i didnt wanna color it .. but i was told to color it and its a night time sene too ahah:banghead: )


p.s. is the body on the car too thick? and i know about the bumper thanks 2 some other people. and the tire ahah.:popcorn:

Cricky1224
08-17-2007, 04:53 PM
Hi there!

It looks like your car is looking great thus far.

I hear you on the rims; they can be a pain to draw.

I'm still learning myself but here's how a wheel turned out on my first try:

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs13/i/2007/060/a/e/Nissan_240SX_by_Cricky1224.jpg

Try to be detailed as much as possible. When you see it looks bright, leave those spots blank as it is first. :)

venom_design
08-17-2007, 06:03 PM
I hope this will help you..

the second example of whats wrong in perspective could be used for a turned wheel, but i think you dont need it in this perspective you drawed the car.. just make the elipse rounder to make is look turned

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3633/kyrstie1id4.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1028/kyrstie2tf5.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7097/kyrstie3ii3.jpg

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 06:03 PM
ahha thats pretty rad drawing you did there man.. and the color too im scared of coloring cars i draw ahah.
thanks btw!
Yeh im happy i am not doing chrome rims like you did there ahah thats hard for me too.. refections,rims,&tires with me are like a magician pulling a rabbit outta his ass ahhaha.

thanks alot..
p.s. is there any certain way you do it? like do you draw up a certain way ..erase pointer lines.. bla bla bla? or is it just all natural?

venom_design
08-17-2007, 06:08 PM
haha we posted in the same minute:p

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 06:20 PM
I hope this will help you..

the second example of whats wrong in perspective could be used for a turned wheel, but i think you dont need it in this perspective you drawed the car.. just make the elipse rounder to make is look turned

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3633/kyrstie1id4.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1028/kyrstie2tf5.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7097/kyrstie3ii3.jpg

holy Sh!t buddy ahah thats gunna help me out soo much . i didnt think anyone else would of seen what i wanted to see and how i wanted to learn.. thats awsome! did yyou just do this? aahha crazy! your good man!. You should post some of your stuff on here!:grinyes: :naughty:

venom_design
08-17-2007, 06:27 PM
haha I have something posted on here;) and i did just make it yeah..but thats because im going to understand making rim's now..and i know what most people problems are by making them..cause that were also my problems before;)

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=739853

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=737083

these are two things i made and posted here recently.

And if you want to keep us updated on ur progress, id like to see and help if you need more help.

Greets Robert

holy Sh!t buddy ahah thats gunna help me out soo much . i didnt think anyone else would of seen what i wanted to see and how i wanted to learn.. thats awsome! did yyou just do this? aahha crazy! your good man!. You should post some of your stuff on here!:grinyes: :naughty:

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 06:33 PM
haha I have something posted on here;) and i did just make it yeah..but thats because im going to understand making rim's now..and i know what most people problems are by making them..cause that were also my problems before;)

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=739853

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=737083

these are two things i made and posted here recently.

And if you want to keep us updated on ur progress, id like to see and help if you need more help.

Greets Robert

ahah well you definatly know what youre doin! thats crazy! Yeh forsure keep me posted, id love to see what new work you do and such, thats awsome! Yeh and if i need help ill be turning to you ahha. maybe when i have to color this stupid thing haha ill ask 4 alot of help ahhaa. My bf wants this bad boy to be a nighttime sene with the city lights and the workz ahhaa. to me .. thats gunna be hard :banghead: :p

venom_design
08-17-2007, 06:38 PM
ahah well you definatly know what youre doin! thats crazy! Yeh forsure keep me posted, id love to see what new work you do and such, thats awsome! Yeh and if i need help ill be turning to you ahha. maybe when i have to color this stupid thing haha ill ask 4 alot of help ahhaa. My bf wants this bad boy to be a nighttime sene with the city lights and the workz ahhaa. to me .. thats gunna be hard :banghead: :p

haha, maybe you have to make ur bf try to color it:p so he knows how hard it is;) I never do scenes..but maybe i should try to sometimes.

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 06:47 PM
haha, maybe you have to make ur bf try to color it:p so he knows how hard it is;) I never do scenes..but maybe i should try to sometimes.

yeh i mean i dont give a sene either but it gives me ideas of what i want the cars theme to be .. colors.. IF i were to color it hahah.
Just stuff ahah .
sometimes ill do no sene but if i try not to i gotta imagine atleast the car sitting in a wear house ahha
i mean this was the 1st colored one i did but it was all painted on a cavas ( back in Art class ahah )
It looks all outta proportion but yeh .. that was my 1st color.its an extremly bad picture you cant see all the detail either.. ( cell phone pic ahha )
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/burtonbabekyrstie/painting.jpg


ill try to get him to color it ..keep him busy ahahah .
i just hope i dont mess it all up . i think it wont be EXTREMELY hard just the black night i think ill have trouble with ... cause thats alot of black thats gunan go into it. i was gunna ask him if i could color it black and white and the make the car blue like those photography pics you seerunaround :rolleyes:

venom_design
08-17-2007, 07:00 PM
yeah..if the photo is ur reference, you maybe could ask 'stuffbyalex' for coloring help..he's the god of coloring in my eyes haha..

and I love that painting with the girl on the car!! i can only draw products, no people.. i wish i could draw people, but thats another thing i have to spend a lot of time to..

and for the coloring of ur drawing..i dunno how long it took you to draw, but maybe you can draw it a few more times and everytime make it better..and then try to color one first..and if that goes wrong, you have some backup sketches.. I allways draw my car's 1000ths to improve the design and then im going to color it.

haha..this looks like a conversation in messenger:p

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 07:04 PM
yeah..if the photo is ur reference, you maybe could ask 'stuffbyalex' for coloring help..he's the god of coloring in my eyes haha..

and I love that painting with the girl on the car!! i can only draw products, no people.. i wish i could draw people, but thats another thing i have to spend a lot of time to..

and for the coloring of ur drawing..i dunno how long it took you to draw, but maybe you can draw it a few more times and everytime make it better..and then try to color one first..and if that goes wrong, you have some backup sketches.. I allways draw my car's 1000ths to improve the design and then im going to color it.

haha..this looks like a conversation in messenger:p

Oh yeh thats a a good idea. ill do that right now the photo of the car im doing now is on a poster paper i stole from school last summer ahahah.
nice paper. lmao

Lol oh thanks , yeh im only good at drawing chicks i LOVE drawing cars and chicks.. 2 great mixed for the male eye at least ahahha. im not a lez men are just sooo hard 2 draw ahha.
Stuff by alex? is he on this site or something? ahah .. is he nice?:frown: ahah :p

ahah sorta like a convo on MSn :p

venom_design
08-17-2007, 07:09 PM
Oh yeh thats a a good idea. ill do that right now the photo of the car im doing now is on a poster paper i stole from school last summer ahahah.
nice paper. lmao

Lol oh thanks , yeh im only good at drawing chicks i LOVE drawing cars and chicks.. 2 great mixed for the male eye at least ahahha. im not a lez men are just sooo hard 2 draw ahha.
Stuff by alex? is he on this site or something? ahah .. is he nice?:frown: ahah :p

ahah sorta like a convo on MSn :p

this is something 'stuffbyalex' made..
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=724649

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 07:12 PM
this is something 'stuffbyalex' made..
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=724649


ahah your kidding me...
he did that with pencil crayons?! HOLY HELL i dont wanna color this anymore , or atleast i dont want my bf seeing how good his coloring is ahah i still color like im in Kindergarden.:grinyes:

Question.. how the heck do people do the car "drawings" or "finishing touches" on Photoshop.. ahah i got it for 30 days Cs3 but its amazing that people can do that lol.. fools me .

venom_design
08-17-2007, 07:18 PM
ahah your kidding me...
he did that with pencil crayons?! HOLY HELL i dont wanna color this anymore , or atleast i dont want my bf seeing how good his coloring is ahah i still color like im in Kindergarden.:grinyes:

Question.. how the heck do people do the car "drawings" or "finishing touches" on Photoshop.. ahah i got it for 30 days Cs3 but its amazing that people can do that lol.. fools me .

haha photoshop..thats a whole proces of learning!! and there are thousends of tutorials all over the internet..thats also how i learned it.. but it goes step by step and just like drawing..you need a lot of practise!!

and about the drawing of the car again..i spotted some little misstakes which you can easyly change..ill draw it on my tablet..

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 07:20 PM
haha photoshop..thats a whole proces of learning!! and there are thousends of tutorials all over the internet..thats also how i learned it.. but it goes step by step and just like drawing..you need a lot of practise!!

and about the drawing of the car again..i spotted some little misstakes which you can easyly change..ill draw it on my tablet..

ahah yeh it looks like you would have to practice so they ACTUALLY draw it on the computer? lol cause i have no clue how someone could do that ahah i have a very unstead hand, why i have to draw fast lol.

Oh really? sweet!:)

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 07:24 PM
ahaha oh no! i just made the car look like its on Airride lol ( the rims & tires ) ahah WHOOOPS

venom_design
08-17-2007, 07:25 PM
here ya go.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/493/forkyrstie4gf2.jpg

and i think a lot of people draw on paper, scan it and than color it in photoshop.

venom_design
08-17-2007, 07:31 PM
here ya go.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/493/forkyrstie4gf2.jpg


that one was also wrong haha..here's the good one..
the 'point' goes more to the outside..and then when it comes up, its less pointy.. haha hard to explain..just look at the drawing;)

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1783/forkyrstie5mz9.jpg

venom_design
08-17-2007, 08:32 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6535/forkyrstie7um4.jpg

here you go

Kyrstie
08-17-2007, 08:35 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6535/forkyrstie7um4.jpg
here you go

HOLY HELL THATS AMAZING! Thank you so much for all your help!!! wow!!!:grinyes: :iceslolan :grinyes: :iceslolan :grinyes: :iceslolan:grinyes: :iceslolan :grinyes: :iceslolan

stuffbyalex
08-19-2007, 07:23 PM
looks like Venom's got you covered for perspective stuff. good luck with the coloring. the night scene would look really cool! Oh, and the challenger on the other page looks awesome

For this drawing, what kind of colored pencils are you planning on using? you'll probably want to pick up some Prismacolors... those are what I use anyway. Some other artists on this forum can do some amazing stuff with them too!

Alex

Dx_king91
08-20-2007, 03:41 AM
Kool technic Venom
and Kyrstie I think that you should try to work on the rim draw it in difference angel or you can use Photoshop to trace the Acura that much more easier than drawing on paper

JeSteRdaY
08-22-2007, 06:46 AM
check this out. should be quite helpfull. 4get about the colouring. get the perspective first. thats how i kept it.
http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/process/tutorials/display/store4/item4245/

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