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any suggestions?Kravur 07-29-2007, 06:45 PM Hi Does anyone have any suggestions on what type of diesel motor would work best in a 1977 280Z? I have a buddy who wants to take the stock inline 6 out of the car and replace it with a good diesel motor. I personally do not have any experience with any type of diesel, so ya, i would appreciate any help that can be given. thanks Kravur MagicRat 07-29-2007, 10:15 PM I cannot imagine why anyone would want to do such a thing. A diesel would get slightly better gas mileage, but the thousands of dollars required for such an unlikely and difficult conversion would pay for all the extra gasoline used about 10 times over. Any diesel engine small enough to fit would be less powerful and slower to rev, thus ruining the fun of driving such a sports car. Diesel engines are generally more expensive than gas engines; if the original six is worn out, a rebuild would be cheaper than buying a new diesel. Swapping in a diesel would be difficult and expensive and probably would require a different transmission and a custom installation (mounts, plumbing, wiring etc) Kravur 07-29-2007, 10:40 PM I cannot imagine why anyone would want to do such a thing. A diesel would get slightly better gas mileage, but the thousands of dollars required for such an unlikely and difficult conversion would pay for all the extra gasoline used about 10 times over. Any diesel engine small enough to fit would be less powerful and slower to rev, thus ruining the fun of driving such a sports car. Diesel engines are generally more expensive than gas engines; if the original six is worn out, a rebuild would be cheaper than buying a new diesel. Swapping in a diesel would be difficult and expensive and probably would require a different transmission and a custom installation (mounts, plumbing, wiring etc) I believe my buddy jim understands the pain in the ass of installing this setup into his car. I side with him when it comes to the idea of having a 1977 280Z with a strong diesel motor under the hood, plus it would be one of a kind. this is why when we choose a motor we must have it right. because like you said: if the plumbing, electrical, and ect. get to complex then he would be forced to change it out. jim doesnt want to risk spending the expense unless he knows it can be done 100%. that is why were are going to a third party like yourself for suggestions. thank you for the response. anyone have an suggestions on a good diesel motor to use? Moppie 07-30-2007, 01:48 AM anyone have an suggestions on a good diesel motor to use? Find one from a 1970s Mercedes, they a straight bolt in swap. All you need to change is the fuel lines and pump. Engine mounts and gear box ar a direct bolt up as the 280, like the 260 and the 240 used a Nissan built copy of a Mercedes motor. Of course diesel engine technology in the 70's was crap, and the motor will smoke and preform accordingly. Kravur 07-30-2007, 02:09 PM Find one from a 1970s Mercedes, they a straight bolt in swap. All you need to change is the fuel lines and pump. Engine mounts and gear box ar a direct bolt up as the 280, like the 260 and the 240 used a Nissan built copy of a Mercedes motor. Of course diesel engine technology in the 70's was crap, and the motor will smoke and preform accordingly. Thanks, I appreciate the help. UncleBob 07-30-2007, 04:09 PM they had a diesel in the early maxima's....probably would be easy to convert. I don't know if thats the mercedes engine you're refering to But man were they gutless Kravur 07-30-2007, 10:03 PM they had a diesel in the early maxima's....probably would be easy to convert. I don't know if thats the mercedes engine you're refering to But man were they gutless ya iv looked at those. it would be on the easy side for a conversion, but i was leaning more towards the Audi A3 diesels. either the 1.9l or the 2.0l. anyone know much about the Audi diesel motors? or any other recommendations? vgames33 07-30-2007, 10:55 PM Audi is owned by VW, right? I've heard that VW TDs are pretty good engines. Moppie 07-31-2007, 01:14 AM Audi is owned by VW, right? I've heard that VW TDs are pretty good engines. Audi and VW are part of VAG, or the VW Audi Group. So they share lots, and lots of things;chassis, engines, wifes etc Kravur 07-31-2007, 02:13 PM Audi and VW are part of VAG, or the VW Audi Group. So they share lots, and lots of things;chassis, engines, wifes etc so do you believe i can make one of VAG's 2.0 TDI motors work? as long as i get the mounts, tranny, and drivetrain assembly done correctly? how hard would the electronics be and would i have to send it to a professional? Moppie 08-01-2007, 01:35 AM If you can make a modern, German, common rail, transverse 4 cyl Diesel engine work in a 1970s Japanese sports car, I will be very, very impressed. athertonracing.com 08-01-2007, 11:26 AM Why diesel? Lots of weight there! However, it does seem like Audi knows how to race w/ a diesel. I would go with a small diesel if any. Kravur 08-01-2007, 12:18 PM If you can make a modern, German, common rail, transverse 4 cyl Diesel engine work in a 1970s Japanese sports car, I will be very, very impressed. oh no it will happen. haha i hope :P thanks for the help. Why diesel? Lots of weight there! However, it does seem like Audi knows how to race w/ a diesel. I would go with a small diesel if any. because diesels are powerful, and i believe an inline 4 diesel motor will work in this situation, for his type of car. will be a one of a kind, just will cost my buddy a pretty pennie. ______ so does anyone know much about any Audi TDI motors? say the 1.9L or 2.0L diesels? and the electrical system with it? UncleBob 08-01-2007, 10:31 PM because diesels are powerful I hope thats not why he's doing this....to make his car faster. Would take an awful lot of work to get a TDI into the "fast" catagory Kravur 08-01-2007, 11:10 PM I hope thats not why he's doing this....to make his car faster. Would take an awful lot of work to get a TDI into the "fast" catagory I said powerful...not fast. if i wanted fast i would put a small block 350 with a 471 blower sittin' on top. me and my buddy wish to have a one-of-a-kind 280Z. and we want it to be powered by a diesel. thanks for the coments CronuSurtr 10-21-2007, 02:44 AM well shit that sounds pretty "fun" for a mod job, lemme know how it turns out! MetalHeadZaid 10-21-2007, 05:01 AM nissan rd28 from a laurel Moppie 10-21-2007, 07:31 AM nissan rd28 from a laurel *shudder*........... She'll be smokin round the mountain when she comes....... vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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