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qtrhorse50
07-25-2007, 01:16 PM
i am putting a turbo on my moms mini van i have a turbo from a 6.5 diesel its actually kind of small im installing it behind the cat of an 94 aerostar 3.0 im not gonna race it i just have a bunch of turbo parts and think it wiould be cool to install it on a mini van i kow it will spool up slow im only trying to run 4-5 lbs any ways the oil lines are what bothers me i was thinking about doing a stand alone oil system for the turbo only i was gonna make a metal container with a small cooler and an electric pump to supply pressuried oil to the turbo i think it will work i have great fabricating skills and am a diesel mechanic by trade as well as an excellent welder i know i can get the turbo to work but the oil lines are the only thing bothering me will my system work ?????????? id rather not tap into te engines oil line because its a bit of a long way back to the motor for the return line or i could evan install a pump in the return line to get the oil back i will probaly gut the cat too also where can i get turbo oil lines long enuff?????????? i was think ing about using barbs and high pressure hose this should work right??? any help greatly appreciated thanks

qtrhorse50
07-25-2007, 01:17 PM
thanks

hotrod_chevyz
07-25-2007, 04:22 PM
Im not sure what engine its going on but if i was putting one on like that i would use an oil filter relocator kit wich can be made to feed a turbo.

qtrhorse50
07-25-2007, 05:44 PM
yeah but the oil filter on the van is the small oil filter its very comon on small ford engines but its not the larger one comon to most of the v8s i like that idea i evan got a stupid i dea to tie the trans misson cooler lines in to the turbo to feed it but i think the atf is to thin for the turbo and make burn or the trans fluid will get to hot and kill my tranny any thoughts:runaround:

hotrod_chevyz
07-25-2007, 06:35 PM
without knowing what engine it is its hard to say. You have yet to specify what vehicle and engine you have.

UncleBob
07-25-2007, 08:01 PM
just put a scavenge pump on the return line. Done

qtrhorse50
07-25-2007, 09:59 PM
its a 95 ford aero star 3.0 engine like i said in my original post

qtrhorse50
07-25-2007, 10:00 PM
what about my own oil system just for the turbo ??????oil tank and a high pressure pump and a cooler of some sourt???

UncleBob
07-25-2007, 11:52 PM
course you can, but its a lot more work, and more parts to fail

qtrhorse50
07-26-2007, 08:28 AM
theoreticaly ho wmuch oil pressuredoes my turbo need

hotrod_chevyz
07-26-2007, 11:31 AM
yeah but the oil filter on the van is the small oil filter its very comon on small ford engines but its not the larger one comon to most of the v8s

Get an oil filter relocator for a ford taurus sho. Should bolt right up and allow you to run multiple high volume oil filters and turbos, and will help guard against rod bearing failures, wich is a known problem (from what i gather) of 3.0 engines. The kit i looked up said it increased the oil volume of the 3.0 to around 7.5 QT.

And yes you could and should install an oil cooler. Again i would find something available for a SHO, wich i believe a second gen sho is the early to mid 90's model and they came with the 3.0 or 3.2 liter engine.


EDIT: yeah i guess you did say what it was in your first post, i wasnt paying attention...

qtrhorse50
07-26-2007, 02:00 PM
thanks where did you find that kit at? i havent benn able to find that...also im really considering making this stand alone turbo only oil system i know it will be different that any other thing also CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHAT TURBO I HAVE?its off an 94 chevy3500 turbo diesel 6.5LTR also how much boost will this produce how much lag will it have ? is it way to o big for me? also ive made a flange so my turbo kit will bolt right up behind the cat how bad will the cat affect boost? and im having a hard time running the tube to the throttle body i need to find away to get it from the pass door to under the hood im gonna cut awhole under where the stock airbox was and run it throgh there but then i will be in the wheel well and rub the tire any ideas??? i thought about doing some sourt of flexible tubing but i can only find that in 24" pieces and home depot only goes up to 2" i was planning on running 2.5" pipe since both the turbo and mass air flow will 2.5" perfectly

turtlecrxsi
07-26-2007, 04:09 PM
If you're going to go through all of this trouble to turbo that van, I would dump the cat. If you need some place to put your 02 sensor fab up a bung in a down pipe or have a welding shop do it. Some kind of intercooler would be a smart decision also...

qtrhorse50
07-26-2007, 05:15 PM
Yeah I Actually Am Starting To Get Discouraged I Mocked Up Every Thing Tonight I Work As Amchanic For A Fleet And We Have Aobut 5 Junk Aerostars I Can Use For Parts Im Getting Pissed Cause I Can T Figure Out How To Run The Tube Or Pipe That Is Gonna Be Boosted All The Way To The Mass Air Id Like To Use Some Kind Of Flexible Tubing That I Can Bend All Around You Know Any Suggestions

qtrhorse50
07-27-2007, 12:47 PM
thats it im done with the van i think i will nstall the turbo on my super clean super low mileage 93 explorer sport its got the 4.0 in it i will get the remote oil filter kit for this itwill fit the 4.0 but for the return line the explorer has a cast alluminum oil pan not a stamped steel on ecan i run the return line to the valve cover or intake??or should i just plumb it back into the engine?

UncleBob
07-27-2007, 12:49 PM
or should i just plumb it back into the engine?

thats crazy talk! :D

qtrhorse50
07-27-2007, 03:30 PM
thats crazy talk! :Dwhat i meant is run it back to the oil filter adapter rather than back into the oil pan which is what im gonna do run it back into the oil filter adapter cut me some slack ive benn building n/a mustangs for years and several super charged ones too but i installed kits now i wana turbo something different and fabricate most the parts my self

UncleBob
07-27-2007, 05:48 PM
it doesn't matter where you run the return line, as long as its large diameter with no restrictions, at a downward slope throughout its length, thereby, the drain on the engine is lower than the turbo.

If the turbo is lower, then there has to be negative pressure on the return line somehow. I don't believe oil filter adapters have negative pressure on the return line from the oil cooler

qtrhorse50
07-28-2007, 01:12 PM
yeah because its a custom install on a 4.0 i cant get turbo manifolds and space under the hood is limited so i was gonna install it pretty much under the vehicle under the passenger sear so how would you recomend i do the return line?

UncleBob
07-28-2007, 04:32 PM
yeah because its a custom install on a 4.0 i cant get turbo manifolds

there have been several people that have turbo'd 4.0's, its not hard to make manifolds, relocate the battery, remove the air box and stock snorkel....lots of room

qtrhorse50
07-28-2007, 06:47 PM
yeah this whole time ive benn trying to work around every thing i got but yeah i could make room was i was thinking was running an elecctric fan and run the pipes to the throttle body straight up from under they would come out right at the throttle body i will have to look again for a turboed 4.0 mainfold thanks

UncleBob
07-28-2007, 07:30 PM
just make log manifolds.

check out this site for junkyard DIY projects that others have done....including making your own manifolds.

http://www.turbomustangs.com

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