Hello to all,

I was wondering if anyone has tried Lucas "Upper Cylinder Lube" in your Camry's engines. If so have you noticed any difference/improvement? I've heqrd good things from this product so I admit I've been comtemplating trying a bottle or two in my 89' 4 banger. I hate to say it but I never needed it but admitly curious.

rimfire,22

Many swear by Lucas and other additives. This is one example of why additives have questionable vertues: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm There's more info in "See what others have to say" at the bottom.

RIP,

Thank you for your informative reply. However I'm only refering to the gas additive called Lucas "Upper Cylinder Lube" as it is only added to the gas.

When it comes to my crankcase oil I never add anything to my Mobil 1.:grinno:

rimfire,22

Engine RESTORE seems to work pretty good. Lucas is good. I use the GM top engine cleaner(aerosole can) and i spray it in the intake and clean the throttle body. that makes the biggest difference. Also adding a quart of tranny fluid before an oil change doesn't hurt either. No need to drain a quart of oil out for the tranny fluid as it will burn off quickly.

EGads! You got me. Well I hope the info will come in handy for somebody some day. Cheers!

Engine RESTORE seems to work pretty good. Lucas is good. I use the GM top engine cleaner(aerosole can) and i spray it in the intake and clean the throttle body. that makes the biggest difference. Also adding a quart of tranny fluid before an oil change doesn't hurt either. No need to drain a quart of oil out for the tranny fluid as it will burn off quickly.


WickedNYCowboy,

YEE HAW Cowboy that's a bit much for me. HUMMMMM Tranny fluid? :screwy: All I wanna know is if Lucas is the real thing or just snake oil. That tiny bottle claims to treat on tank of gas compared to Techron and found out by other replies that they're not alike but do different things. Good info for me.

So far I chucked in one bottle in the tank and haven't noticed much of a difference but some kind of sign/feeling of a smoother engine idle. Perhaps it's all in my head to justify the expense of buying that product. You all tell me.

If anyone wants to jump in to add to my comments your greatly welcome.

rimfire,22

Thats a good sign that your engine idle smoother. Mine is like a Jetta TDI. The tranny fluid is an old hot rodder trick. I aluminum foil does great things with aluminum rims with brake dust when wet and soaped up or something like that it's slipped my mind.

Thats a good sign that your engine idle smoother. Mine is like a Jetta TDI. The tranny fluid is an old hot rodder trick. I aluminum foil does great things with aluminum rims with brake dust when wet and soaped up or something like that it's slipped my mind.


WickedNYCowboy,

OK I'm getting a better picture now.:grinyes: My next question is...doesn't the current unleaded gasoline made today contain some form of lubricant already? What are the Federal Standards required anyway. I know already that it must contain some form of solvents but does this also mean lubricants/detergency in addition?

based on the picture I'm getting this product is mostly a supplement to what's might already be in gasoline today? Am I right/correct?

rimfire,22

Hello to all,
I was wondering if anyone has tried Lucas "Upper Cylinder Lube" in your Camry's engines. If so have you noticed any difference/improvement?
rimfire,22
Yes and yes.
As you have noted, the UCL is a fuel treatment and Bob the oil guy has no comment. Plus his apparatus for the oil treatment must be flawed because I've never seen any foaming in actual use.
For the UCL fuel treatment, I recommend you buy the quart size and run two bottles through before deciding.
Follow the ounce markings on the side of the bottle when adding at fill up. I have noticed measurable improvements in power and fuel efficiency (mileage).

Yes and yes.
... I've never seen any foaming in actual use.
...
How can you see if it is foaming?

Tell us more!


Sam

Yes and yes.
As you have noted, the UCL is a fuel treatment and Bob the oil guy has no comment. Plus his apparatus for the oil treatment must be flawed because I've never seen any foaming in actual use.
For the UCL fuel treatment, I recommend you buy the quart size and run two bottles through before deciding.
Follow the ounce markings on the side of the bottle when adding at fill up. I have noticed measurable improvements in power and fuel efficiency (mileage).

Daniel M. Dreifus,

Thank you for your informative reply. Currently I've already added one bottle ( small bottle ) in the tank now so adding another won't hurt things? It stated one bottle will treat the entire tank of 20 gallons so since my tank is I beleive 15 gallons adding more is better? Since I fill-up every week regardless of how much I've used I might re-add another small bottle towards the end of this month. By that time it would be equivelant of using 3/4 of a tank of gas. Let me know if doing this way is fine or should I follow
your previous instructions.:screwy:

rimfire,22

the UCL is a fuel treatment and Bob the oil guy has no comment. Plus his apparatus for the oil treatment must be flawed because I've never seen any foaming in actual use.

Hello to All,

I noticed something odd when I read the tests that bob the oil guy had done with motor/gear oils and Lucas oil additive.

The motor oil and gear oil that he did not add the Lucas oil additive to was always the Shaeffers brand name.

kind of makes you wonder why............ :wtf:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm)

I also noticed when he said he turned up the speed on the machine that he used for this test he does not tell you the RPMs the motor on the testing machine was turning. :eek: :nono:

That machine could have been cranking at 30,000 RPMs. :swear:you never know.:dunno:

Pretty much all liquids will foam up or have air bubbles at that speed. Just something to think about. :wink: :2cents:

Regards,
JOET/CAMRY

Daniel M. Dreifus,
Thank you for your informative reply. Currently I've already added one bottle ( small bottle ) in the tank now so adding another won't hurt things?rimfire,22
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I'm just not sure those little bottles are enough to really test.
In my area the quart is around $10, so it's more economical, lasts a lot longer and gives you a chance to see improvement. As I said, just put it in the filler neck before you add fuel and add by the ounce markings on the side. According to their instructions, adding more won't harm anything, but I expect you don't need more than the two or three ounces they suggest per 10 gallons.
I have one of those cargo nets in the trunk of the Camry with the UCL in double plastic bags from the store. Then I took a rope, looped it through right next to the container at the far end, and tied a knot in the rope to keep the bottle from turning on its side. This way it's held securely in place.

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I'm just not sure those little bottles are enough to really test.
In my area the quart is around $10, so it's more economical, lasts a lot longer and gives you a chance to see improvement. As I said, just put it in the filler neck before you add fuel and add by the ounce markings on the side. According to their instructions, adding more won't harm anything, but I expect you don't need more than the two or three ounces they suggest per 10 gallons.
I have one of those cargo nets in the trunk of the Camry with the UCL in double plastic bags from the store. Then I took a rope, looped it through right next to the container at the far end, and tied a knot in the rope to keep the bottle from turning on its side. This way it's held securely in place.


Daniel,

I'll consider buying the larger bottle if and when I see marked improvements in my engine performance.

Today while driving I did seem to feel that so called marked eprformance/improvement that everyone has stated would happen. I haven't measured MPG yet but just by driving the engine did FEEL better that other days.

I think another bottle is in order towards the end of the month. If my feelings are correct then the purchase of the larger bottle will make more sense.

Currently the gas price over here in Los Angeles is pushing over $3.50/gallon and the rich areas of Los Angeles it's going for about $3.95/gallon!!! My pocket money must go towards my mouth and the gas tank so buying extra fuel treatments will take a back seat til my pocket/wallet has surplus money to burn. In other words..... if it works for ME then ok the expense BUT if not it's just snake oil dispite what others say about Lucas.

Thank you all for your imput.

rimfire,22