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Bullshit. Pun intended.

One of Ferrucio Lamborghini's misguiding principles was that motorsports involvement was a danger to company reputation and personnel. He was fired from Ferrari because he suggested that the F1 team and endurance teams be dropped and that Ferrari should concentrate on its road cars. Thus, it is tradition at Lamborghini to not be involved in racing. It's an unfortunate tenant, though it would only prove that Lambo's have trucklike handling, fragile gearboxes and are generally pathetic creatures. In fact, Volkswagen has flat-out said that there are no intentions to bring Lamborghini into sportscar racing. It would infringe on their plans with Audi.

Mr. Lamborghini did not work for Ferrari.He was an unsatisfied owner of many Ferrari's,very wealthy from his farm implement buisiness(tractors etc.).When his friend Enzo did not listen to his complaints and desires he decided to start his own supercar firm.They have raced before on a limited basis(don't have the Italian governments money to play with).I have not seen to many production based Ferrari's winning championships in the last few decades either.On the whole these types of cars do not make great racers.

There is one guiding rule at Ferrari: If the F1 team isn't winning. The company isn't thinking of anything else. The whole period between the death of Gilles Villeneuve and Schumi's championship was a period where Ferrari was a company that had lost its way. Now that the Scuderia is the dominant force in Formula 1, we can now see more factory support for production based sporstcars ie: the 360GT Modena project and increased spending on the 575 Maranello GTS teams' development (perhaps a full factory team soon)

As for production based Ferraris winning in competition- it hasn't been for lack of trying by privateers. I hold up as examples the 512BB LM's, the IMSA F-40's (there were two, I believe) and the factory's abortive F50 GT1 project. In each case, Ferrari spent money to help develop the type even though at the time they were officially out of sports car racing. How many tiffs did Commendatore have with the ACO, anyway?

Octagon is right concerning factory involvment of the Lambo factory. But nothing keeps a privateer from entering a Murcielago, like the prodrive 550 Maranello, which was a fully private endeavour to begin with.

Does anybody knows if the Lamborghini factory was involved in the Diablo one make series (aside from supplying body parts :p)?

its not gonna happen, atleast not next year, by 2004 who knows

Originally posted by Big Pat
Octagon is right concerning factory involvment of the Lambo factory. But nothing keeps a privateer from entering a Murcielago, like the prodrive 550 Maranello, which was a fully private endeavour to begin with.

Does anybody knows if the Lamborghini factory was involved in the Diablo one make series (aside from supplying body parts :p)?

as far as i know prodrive will build up the lambo

as far as i know prodrive will build up the lambo

This is quite odd, since they are currently building & developping the 550 Maranello...

In any case, may teams have stated their intention to run in the GTS category next years, which should be interesting!

we´ll se but i think lambo will be ready 2004 or even 2005

hi,

Lamborghini will be in FIA GT racing next year with upgraded Diablos from the Supertrophy one make series. An upgrade kit has been developped by Reiter Engineering; the "GTR-S" has already seen track action this year.
http://www.reiter-engineering.com

The Murcielago is 4WD and therefore not eligible for any GT category.

thanks!
ui a german site
hae never heard of it!


good info!

Reiter Eng. also developed the racing version of the Spyker (it debuted at this year's Le Mans 24) - they have in the mean time lost that contract though.

just dont count on it guys... in other news Zonda is joining :)

Mhm.
:confused:
So because the Zonda is coming in (with Carsport btw), the Lambo can't come in as well?

it can, just dont count on it...

let´s wait and see.

i would love it

Originally posted by vettemaan
it can, just dont count on it...
Count on it to do what - actually join the series, or win?
Nobody said it would win anything. But if Stephane Ratel has any say in it (and he runs the Lambo series as well as the FIA GT), you'd better believe there will be at least one Lambo at the start on the first 2003 race. Four or five wouldn't surprise me (seems like it will be a bargain compared to other customer propositions such as the F550).
Looks like 2 Saleens as well.

i meant dont count on it joining, not winning... and ide like to bet on that aswell :) sebring is 68 days away and there has been 0 news of a lambo in ALMS

PS) it would be cool if lambo joined, Saleen is a joke, 2 years later and they only sold 1 street car :rolleyes:

Originally posted by vettemaan
PS) it would be cool if lambo joined, Saleen is a joke, 2 years later and they only sold 1 street car :rolleyes:
(......how many C5R road cars are there......? ;))
Hm - according to the FIA, they have now fulfilled the homologation requirement of having built 25 cars, what they do with those (sell them, race them, store them... ) is their business entirely :)
The car certainly fits in with the others I think so I hope Graham Nash will actually show up with his 2 cars. Also, I hope the ACO will lift those restrictions for the ALMS and Le Mans Saleens, they're a bit of a joke!
As for Lambos in the ALMS, this is something I wouldn't count on! - This only make sense in the context of the one make Trophy cars being available over here for a conversion (that's why it's likely they'll show up in this series, it isn't a big step to take). They are grid fillers, basically - if spectacular ones. :flash: A podium for such a car will be a surprise.

Now I have to beg the question, why a Diablo? I know that the Lamborghini V-12 is potent, but the cars are heavy and have suspension geometry that simply isn't optimized for circuit work. They've got too little travel that doesn't affect camber. I agree, even if they were entered privately, they'd be no more of interest than those two Marcos Mantises that run the Grand-Am series. Curiousities at first, but ultimately forgettable.

Not to say that I wouldn't like to see Volkswagen turn the Lamborghini into a respectable competition sports car. Remember the Jota? That was an example of the beast that lay dormant in the Miura's shapely form. It would have stormed Le Mans in the day of the Porsche RSR and Ferrari 512BB LM. But, thanks to that lowly tractor maker, the cars were left to private hands and nver fully realized. Ferrucio is dead, and he was mistaken. VW! It's time to start making Lambo's serious cars. The Murciealago is a good start. Now let's see the Canto project come back to life.

Originally posted by Octagon
Now I have to beg the question, why a Diablo?
Again - because the racecars already exist. The Supertrophy cars get an upgrade, and the (wealthy) "gentlemen" who now play in that series can enjoy the added prestige of racing their cars in the "main event", the 3hr. FIA GT race. And it's a relatively inexpensive way (compared to a F550 or an Oreca Viper) for a team to get started in the "major league". That's all there is to it.
Don't think "Volkswagen". They have nothing to do with it.

Ide like to see a Carera GT in GTS :D

Porsche has stated that they have no intentions of racing the Carrera GT (but has also conceded that if a privateer team wants to do that they can't prevent them :D).

Originally posted by cybersdorf
Porsche has stated that they have no intentions of racing the Carrera GT (but has also conceded that if a privateer team wants to do that they can't prevent them :D).

really?
that would be nice!

If you listen closely, you will hear the wind in the willows around Stuttgart whisper "Freisinger...." ;)