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Towing with a Geo Metro.


GeoRandy
01-23-2007, 09:12 AM
The manual says not to but is there a good way to connect a hitch and ball to tow a lightweight trailer? I saw some cop on TV's Lunkerville that was towing a small 2-man bass boat with an electric trolling motor. Good for me.

sbiddle
01-23-2007, 11:31 AM
There's a company called Curt Manufacturing, www.curtmfg.com, that makes a hitch for the metro. I looked into it a while back, and it looks like a pretty good system. It's limited to 1000 lb trailer weight and 100 lb tongue weight, but for me it would be perfect for towing around dirtbikes.

frets14
01-23-2007, 10:33 PM
Randy, I am a Millwright in a factory so I happen to have access to welders and drills and scrap metal. I have fabricated several different hitches for the small cars I've owned so that I can use my two wheel flat bed utility trailer with them. I've had a hitch on a VW Rabbit (diesel), a Honda Civic wagon and two different Metros. I won't try to tell you how to do it since they are often different between models and years. You just have to use a combination of common sense and imagination to create a hitch that will suit your needs. Also the use of the hitch has to be coupled with common sense regarding the type of load you put on it. I just wanted to let you know that it can be done.... Steve

GeoRandy
01-24-2007, 09:05 PM
Perfect. Thanks, I'm going to the link now.:grinyes:

Irk
01-25-2007, 12:17 AM
This guy towed a car almost 3000 miles with his Metro.

http://www.jeremiahsviolins.com/towing.htm

GeoRandy
01-30-2007, 09:36 AM
Looks like you know what you're doing. Thanks.
Looking forward to rigging mine.

DOCTORBILL
01-30-2007, 03:07 PM
Why not...?

I've seen small trailers being towed by motorcycles!

Motorcycles can have sidecars which are in effect trailers.

And isn't the Geo Metro 3 cylinder engine originally a Suzuki motorcycle engine
made water cooled for the Metro?

Just don't be stupid and try towing a load of gravel!

DoctorBill

GeoRandy
01-31-2007, 09:52 AM
Doc.,
Ha-ha-ha. Sounds like you've seen me tow stuff before.
No, I won't be stupid (Let's hope).
I want to tow my little trolling motor powered 12 foot aluminum jon boat on a little Sunfish sailboat trailer that I modified for it to some nearby fishin' holes in the national forest. Total weight has to be less than 500 lbs.
I'd like to also raise the suspension so I can get better clearance on those back road trails. Any ideas?

$400chevymetro
01-31-2007, 10:36 AM
hey GR......I was just thinking how about going to junkyard and buying a set of rims then finding the tallest tires that will fit. You could also buy mud tires and get better traction. Just change out regular tires when you need to have more clearance. It would probably be cheaper than changing your suspension. I'd bet you could get it done for around $200. Might try this http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2005888/p-2005888/N-111+1997+200728690+600003419/c-10101 beteewn the the two might get 3 more inches for a little over $200

DOCTORBILL
02-01-2007, 02:14 PM
GEORANDY.....

Towing 500 lbs might be like carrying around two big FAT PEOPLE in your Geo - except
that Fat People don't have wind resistance inside like the trailer does outside...

Would you do that...?

My Metro drives differently with just my 150 lb 5'11" teenaged daughter in it!

I hope you like fixing the prematurely worn out engine...

Makes me think of sombody making Marilyn Monroe pull a plow....!

Why not buy a cheap used Jeep Cherokee for towing ANYTHING around?
$500 easily!

Jeeps are work-horses! The straight six 4.0 liter will last forever - if you
take care of it!

Buying used Jeeps are like buying used lawn mowers - CHEAP and Abundant!

DoctorBill

Crvett69
02-01-2007, 08:23 PM
i put one on a friends 91 metro wagon, only had to drill 2 holes in body to mount it and it seems to tow his little harbor freight trailer around ok. all he carries in it are a garbage can or two to the dumps so its not like there is any weight

DOCTORBILL
02-03-2007, 12:58 AM
I bought one of those little HARBOR-FREIGHT Trailers, too.

I'm building a Fiberglass covered plywood lock-box to bolt on it for traveling -
to carry luggage and food on trips to Montana or Canada - just to leave the inside of
the car for people.

It is small enough that a person could tow it around behind a bicycle!

But even a 500 lb trailer with a boat makes me feel compassion for any Geo
Metro pulling that load.....

Just doesn't feel right way down in my soul.

Guess it is 'cause I like The Phoenix so much, I could not bring myself to "abuse" it like that.

They were made to cart one or two people around as a transporter...not for
towing something...

Get an old used Jeep straight-six "Banger" made for such slavery.

DoctorBill

way
02-03-2007, 09:44 AM
Keep in mind also the increased weight on the rear will most likely reduce the traction in the front drive wheels. That might be something to think about on a boat ramp.
On the plus side, if the trailer load is heavy enough, you can spend a romantic night stargazing.

And unless you have an automatic, you will most likely burn out your clutch pretty quick or at least quicker than normal.

This all being said, I am thinking of using one for those odd times I buy things that won't fit inside the car. But it wouldn't be any more substantial than this:

http://www.uhaul.com/trailers/sport-trailer.jpg


http://www.uhaul.com/trailers/

GeoRandy
05-10-2007, 12:46 PM
DOCTORBILL,
What's up. Your first response was positive then you sent two negative responses. What's up with that? I'm not going to hurt my little Metro. I really appreciate my Metro. Hurt's you down in your soul? What? Ha-ha-ha. You're too funny! Premature clutch and engine replacement? What?? No way. I'm not going to go long-haul on the interstates for a living. Ho-ho-ho. Like I said, maybe 5 miles to the lake and back. I also said it will be less than 500 lbs. In fact, with the trailer hooked up I can lift the trailer with the boat on it completely off the ground by myself. I turned fifty last week (maybe I'm bragging, no, it's just not that heavy) so it must not be too heavy. Say what you want, I'd still take you fishing with me and let you drive. I'll ride shotgun while my Metro pulls us along. Oh, I almost forgot, there is no boat ramp. I just pick up the boat to off-load it from the trailer and drag it down to the water. Loading is the same way, drag and lift. No hernias here. DOC., I only worry about the weight of all the fish I catch being too much. Lighten up!

spy1309
05-11-2007, 09:27 AM
LOL right now I got my 8x4 trailer from Harbor Freight Tools and I was planing to use it with my 2000 Cevy Metro 1.3l automatic and I was busting my head how to attach the hitch.
I was taking a look at the web page somebody sugested in an earlyer post but I don t want to spend over $200 for a hitch, I paid $250 for the entire trailer.
Did somebody adapted one with succes?

irwinx
05-15-2007, 06:39 PM
I bought a hitch for around $120, a few years ago, for my 1999 chevy metro (16 valve). To locate it I did a web search and came across a hitch website where they advertized one that would go up under the rear bumper to a ridge where the uppper body and lower body had a strong seam, then you drilled out holes for 4 large bolts with huge 2" washers to spread the load, and on the bottom, it connected to the middle of the spare tire well with two bolts, and the same huge washers.

GeoRandy
12-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Thanks guys, still haven't done it. But, I will.

redpepe
12-11-2007, 11:12 AM
the three points of attachment work well. my '91 has pulled many loads. one of the more spectacular was a load of styrofoam blocks 5' square and 16' long.

i welded a triangular 3/16" steel plate, lightened with strategic holes cut to reflect the triangulation, between the upper attachment spots and the hitch tube and then welded a square tube extension about 20" forward onto the spare tire well.

i adapted the hitch to do many things including a telescoping 't' pole to carry the rear of my kayaks ..... telescoping so that i could still open the rear hatch.

i found that carrying a 10" alum boat was very difficult however. i suspected that the wind resistence of the open hull / transom was the culprit. i tried covering the hull but it still made an incredible drag, far worse than those blocks of foam and i think the foam was heavier than the boat.

i just picked up a pile of heavy machine stands with the trailer and continue to get impressed looks as i load to the gunnels before the unbelievers.

i often drive in 4th gear with loads and rarely go over 55mph. brakes are the waekest part of the system but have always proved adequate.

GeoRandy
12-12-2007, 06:29 PM
Wow, I'd like to see pics. of the assembly.

redpepe
12-13-2007, 08:53 AM
i've finally gotten a digi camera and will be glad to send some shots asap. been meaning to send some photos of the baja cow incident damage too. the hitch support is behind the bumper and not visible.

not sure how to include photos in these replies / threads???

btw .... very much appreciate your and other's replies to this thoughtful metro gang regarding 'elec conversion' ... specifically the issues of grnhs gasses and fuels and nuc energy and externalities. this is a long overdue conversation for conscientious metro owners. many seem to think that if 'everyone' drives at 50mpg, life can go on sustainably [usually with the caveat that population needs to be reduced .... volunteers? the questions become .... why do populations stabilize and what is your fair share of the total energy available which will allow sustainable heat equilibrium in the biosphere? ]. thinking only in nationalistic 'mpg' terms about a developing 7billion world population is very short sighted.

i recommend george monbiot's writings most highly .... his latest book was 'heat'. heat is the ultimate determinant of limits and consequently of social constructions .... tempered by myths and collective narratives of course.

been meaning to respond in the other thread but ...... time presses on.

redpepe
12-24-2007, 08:36 AM
just posted some photos .....here since i wasn't sure how to do it ....

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=772048

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