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eclipsed at 3am
10-17-2006, 11:49 PM
I was just wondering what type of times a stock newer ss (346) would run in a 1/4 mile and an 1/8 mile? I was talking to a guy in a parking lot tonight and he said his ss (stock) ran a 8.6 in the 1/8 and "high 10's in the 1/4".

I looked under his hood, and he has a K&N filter, and thats it. I only know that because i saw the K&N sticker. he had absolutely nothing else. I know bench racing is stupid and everyone hates it, I'm just wondering what kind of numbers this camaro is putting down.

FormulaLT1
10-18-2006, 01:17 AM
Let just say he is not living in reality if thats all he has done. At very best under excellent conditions it has been proven that LS1 F-bodys can make it into the high 12's in the 1/4 in stock form but he is not running 10's (basically requires another 225 - 300 RWHP) unless he has some type of major work done.

ikeyballz
10-18-2006, 02:32 AM
he speaks not for the rest of us F-body owners..

haha, he prolly means high 10s.. as in he smoked some weed at 10.. :B

jk ;x

even if he had new tb and a cam..(which i guess you cant tell from the outside) theres no way hes gonna be running even 11s..
btw, how fast does that eclipse run? 16psi? crazy.

2.2 Straight six
10-18-2006, 04:59 AM
16psi? crazy.

16psi aint crazy!

my mate's truck, which is running a stroked 5.9 boosts all the way to a max of 54psi.

stieh2000
10-18-2006, 11:14 AM
16psi aint crazy!

my mate's truck, which is running a stroked 5.9 boosts all the way to a max of 54psi.

:eek2:


But in awnser to your question, a bone stock SS will run low 13s.

eclipsed at 3am
10-18-2006, 11:22 AM
alright....yeah 13's sounds more like it. This guy was also telling me how he whomps on hondas and mitsubishis all day long, and even a couple older vettes. I was just like "ok..whatever"

as for my car, im running 16 for daily driving. With the 550 injectors i can positivly and safely run about 21psi. much more than that, and i dont trust my head gasket or piston rings. I've only been to the track once and it was an 1/8 mile, and i ran a 9.3 at 85 mph at 16 psi, which is ok i guess..

this guy wants to meet up at the same track and run it a week from today. i think ill go for it.

stone_mound_camaro
10-18-2006, 11:44 AM
16psi aint crazy!

my mate's truck, which is running a stroked 5.9 boosts all the way to a max of 54psi.

diesel truck right?


alright....yeah 13's sounds more like it. This guy was also telling me how he whomps on hondas and mitsubishis all day long, and even a couple older vettes. I was just like "ok..whatever"

as for my car, im running 16 for daily driving. With the 550 injectors i can positivly and safely run about 21psi. much more than that, and i dont trust my head gasket or piston rings. I've only been to the track once and it was an 1/8 mile, and i ran a 9.3 at 85 mph at 16 psi, which is ok i guess..

this guy wants to meet up at the same track and run it a week from today. i think ill go for it.
and o yes...LS1 ss WILL "whomp" on hondas mitsubishis all day... it basically is a 2000 corvette motor

eclipsed at 3am
10-18-2006, 04:27 PM
yeah i would hope a camaro would beat a honda... i guess i cant really explain it online, its just the way he was saying it in a poser sort of way, like its really something to be proud of that he beat some hondas. And I dont mean to diss him or any camaros, but its like Shaq bragging to everyone that he beat an old lady in basketball.

but then again if he beat some vettes then thats a different story. I dont think im pushing much more than 300hp at 20psi, plus im fwd. I think the only advantage i have is a lighter body lol. A stock ss is about 320 or so right? I think it'll be an interesting run.

FormulaLT1
10-18-2006, 04:29 PM
yeah i would hope a camaro would beat a honda... i guess i cant really explain it online, its just the way he was saying it in a poser sort of way, like its really something to be proud of that he beat some hondas. And I dont mean to diss him or any camaros, but its like Shaq bragging to everyone that he beat an old lady in basketball.

but then again if he beat some vettes then thats a different story. I dont think im pushing much more than 300hp at 20psi, plus im fwd. I think the only advantage i have is a lighter body lol. A stock ss is about 320 or so right? I think it'll be an interesting run.
All depends on what model Honda we are talking here. I once got beat in my Formula by a Supercharged S2000. I was standard cubes with some gears, a stall and a catback so I wasn't bone stock either. Also depends on if you consider a NSX a honda or not.

eclipsed at 3am
10-18-2006, 04:32 PM
Also depends on if you consider a NSX a honda or not.

sure why not. i figured he was probably talking about civics and integras. if i find out he raced and smoked an nsx, im getting back in the car and going back where i came from.

FormulaLT1
10-18-2006, 04:39 PM
but then again if he beat some vettes then thats a different story. I dont think im pushing much more than 300hp at 20psi, plus im fwd. I think the only advantage i have is a lighter body lol. A stock ss is about 320 or so right? I think it'll be an interesting run.
He has right around 300 at the wheels, so he is making roughly 330 - 340 at the crank. Assuming this is a 2000 - 2002 model. A earlier LS1 may be making 10 or so horse less.

cougar4life
10-18-2006, 07:35 PM
8.6 in the 1/8 is right for a stock ls1 fbody. He must have ran it at an 1/8 mile track and messed up when trying to convert his 1/8th time into a 1/4 time. 8.6 in the 1/8th = ~13.4 in the 1/4.

Mr. Luos
10-18-2006, 07:45 PM
8.6 in the 1/8 is right for a stock ls1 fbody. He must have ran it at an 1/8 mile track and messed up when trying to convert his 1/8th time into a 1/4 time. 8.6 in the 1/8th = ~13.4 in the 1/4.
That is what I was thinking.
Gonna say...no way the car covered the last half in roughly 2 seconds.

SL3000gt
10-18-2006, 07:47 PM
All depends on what model Honda we are talking here. I once got beat in my Formula by a Supercharged S2000. I was standard cubes with some gears, a stall and a catback so I wasn't bone stock either. Also depends on if you consider a NSX a honda or not.


I agree, seems like a very general statement. Same with Mitsu or most any other brand of car. Matt (-TheStig-) I think ran a 13.3 on a low pressure clutch for the 1/4 ET. Not sure what the 1/8 was though.

97cavalier
10-18-2006, 10:17 PM
i know a kid who has a 01 or 02 SS and all he has done is a catback and it is a A4 and he runs 13.3's.

97cavalier
10-18-2006, 10:18 PM
i know a kid who has a 01 or 02 SS and all he has done is a catback and it is a A4 and he runs 13.3's.

2.2 Straight six
10-18-2006, 11:05 PM
i know a kid who has a 01 or 02 SS and all he has done is a catback and it is a A4 and he runs 13.3's.

is that definately all he has done?

could he have done other mods he hasn't told you about?

cougar4life
10-18-2006, 11:37 PM
i know a kid who has a 01 or 02 SS and all he has done is a catback and it is a A4 and he runs 13.3's.

Definitly possible.

92zcamaroperson
10-19-2006, 01:53 AM
hmmm....10 seconds....stock motor.......got it.....th400 w/ a trans brake, 4" titanium composite driveshaft, ford 9" built rear end, and some 335 straight slicks. Launch at around 4000-5000 rpm and hold on :) motor is still stock

might need to take a hammer to the fender wells though haha

97cavalier
10-19-2006, 09:52 AM
no he said he is bone stock, he might have a k&n filter but thats all.

eclipsed at 3am
10-19-2006, 04:24 PM
no he said he is bone stock, he might have a k&n filter but thats all.

maybe hes just saying that.

when the guy was asking me about my car i told him that just about everything was stock, and it was only pushing MAYBE 200hp. he was like "damn man thats pretty good".

Mr. Luos
10-19-2006, 05:45 PM
no he said he is bone stock, he might have a k&n filter but thats all.
Unless conditions are 100% perfect, I can't see it without a stall.
But to some that leaves the motor stock.

ZL1power69
10-19-2006, 07:03 PM
could very well be possible. ive seen a non ws6 ta with A4 run low-mid 13's with only free mods.

ikeyballz
10-20-2006, 03:43 PM
holy @#$. imagine running 16psi in the LS1 @_@. thats like 600+ hp if you set it up right.. what do you need in our engines for that kind of boost?

(cuz 13 lbs is almost twice the power, right?)

Mr. Luos
10-20-2006, 08:21 PM
Forged bottom end and lower compression.

Or of course...
You could go stroker with higher compression.
I have hung with a 375 LSx with a front mount turbo at 9 PSI. From the start I pulled him hard, once he got into boost he was slowly pulling on me.

In other words...I think I could pull a stock cubed LS1 with 10-11 PSI from a turbo.

jveik
10-25-2006, 08:53 AM
i know a dude that stroked his LT1 to a 383 and runs nitro though it for high 10's or low 11's in the quarter. he trashed the motor when it was stock with nitro runnin through it by spinning a rod bearing or something

Mr. Luos
10-25-2006, 09:41 AM
I can go low 11's full weight with just my motor.
Maybe REALLY high 10's.
Full weight street car.

FormulaLT1
10-25-2006, 09:51 AM
Never was a fan of the juice but alot the force induction guys use it for cooling effect and spool time. I always thought of it like a guy on steriod's. Totally artificial but then again I guess the same thing might be said about blowers and turbos, so to each there own.

Nate355RS
10-25-2006, 02:39 PM
as for my car, im running 16 for daily driving. With the 550 injectors i can positivly and safely run about 21psi. much more than that, and i dont trust my head gasket or piston rings. I've only been to the track once and it was an 1/8 mile, and i ran a 9.3 at 85 mph at 16 psi, which is ok i guess..

this guy wants to meet up at the same track and run it a week from today. i think ill go for it.

That's a good trap for the 8th. Your 60' must have been pretty rough, cause you have the power for 8s easy. Everyone I see that traps in the mid 80s has ETs in the mid to low 8s

eclipsed at 3am
10-25-2006, 04:36 PM
That's a good trap for the 8th. Your 60' must have been pretty rough, cause you have the power for 8s easy. Everyone I see that traps in the mid 80s has ETs in the mid to low 8s

it was my first time at the track, so i was a little unsure of how this was gonna work out. also, normally my launch is horrible, on the street. so i tried to take off really smooth, still burned for about 15 feet or so. my r/t was like .8

Mr. Luos
10-25-2006, 05:02 PM
7.711 at 91
5800 feet up.

Nate355RS
10-25-2006, 05:18 PM
One of my friends with a 65 mustang ran about 8.1-8.2 at about 86-87 mph and he dynoed at 368 whp with around 8 pounds of boost. But he bumped his AFR from 13:1 to 12:1 and took out a half a degree of retard and is now running 7.7 at 95 mph, still running 8 pounds of boost, and that's launching at 3200 rpm. It's not at 7.7 sec at 5800 feet but it's still respectible.

Mr. Luos
10-25-2006, 06:47 PM
Makes it about a low 12/upper 11 second car. Scoots.

I am still learning the launch. Outta the hole at 4000 and it would still bog a little. Wasn't quite in the powerband.
Track is closed until April now though.

Nate355RS
10-25-2006, 07:53 PM
That sucks, we only have a few weeks left in the season here. I really want to get my car out there before they close the tracks.

eclipsed at 3am, I think if you get the launch down you'll have a good chance of beating him, you've got the power to weight advantage. Let us know how it goes if you race him.

jveik
11-06-2006, 08:41 AM
haha while im restoring my beloved c-10 pickup, im stuck driving an 88 honda accord. i was playing gran turismo 4 the other day and found my little honda in the game and i ran it in their little quarter mile test track deal and it ran a little less than 20 seconds in the quarter!!! that game is pretty accurate to real life too, and i bet thats about how slow my little 75 horsepower rice eater really is in real life

Nate355RS
11-06-2006, 09:48 AM
I got the Iroc in the 10s with nitrous.

Mr. Luos
11-06-2006, 05:58 PM
that game is pretty accurate to real life too
Is that a joke?

Nate355RS
11-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Their stock quarter mile times are pretty much right on. The iroc was in the low 14s and the LS1 was in the deep 13s, and all the other cars were pretty much where you would expect them to be.

viperh
11-06-2006, 09:46 PM
Sup dude I didn't read the whole thread but high 12's low 13's unless he sucks at driving.. How's the 16G treating you? I had a 90 GSX with a Big 16G and stomped lots of stock SS's and ws-6's at 23psi on pump gas now if I switched to race gas I could run it up to 28 psi gotta love the ARP head studs. Yeah if your talking on racing him you got him in the bag if you can drive. He has taller gears so keep that in mind if you run him. Make sure he doesn't have a hidden bottle of Nitrous somewhere that a heartbreaker when you think they are bone stock then they come on out with a 75 shot.
Nate

eclipsed at 3am
11-06-2006, 09:50 PM
Sup dude I didn't read the whole thread but high 12's low 13's unless he sucks at driving.. How's the 16G treating you? I had a 90 GSX with a Big 16G and stomped lots of stock SS's and ws-6's at 23psi on pump gas now if I switched to race gas I could run it up to 28 psi gotta love the ARP head studs. Yeah if your talking on racing him you got him in the bag if you can drive. He has taller gears so keep that in mind if you run him. Make sure he doesn't have a hidden bottle of Nitrous somewhere that a heartbreaker when you think they are bone stock then they come on out with a 75 shot.
Nate

what kind of supporting mods did you have?

evilways
11-12-2006, 06:22 PM
I have A 99 Formula that is really fast and I run against SS's at the track and smoke them and I only run an 8.61 is my best time yet!

stone_mound_camaro
11-12-2006, 08:00 PM
I have A 99 Formula that is really fast and I run against SS's at the track and smoke them and I only run an 8.61 is my best time yet!
joking...? if not, go home

Mr. Luos
11-12-2006, 10:48 PM
I have A 99 Formula that is really fast and I run against SS's at the track and smoke them and I only run an 8.61 is my best time yet!
:lol:

Really fast? That is subjective.

Too bad my 1999 is really slow. Otherwise we could e-race. :icon16:

Blackcrow64
11-12-2006, 11:14 PM
:lol:

This thread is getting really funny.

ikeyballz
11-13-2006, 03:05 AM
ill take your geo! :B

Savage Messiah
11-13-2006, 08:46 AM
you realize Curtis that with you at 5800 ft and me at sea level, i trap 1 mph higher in the 1/4 than you do in the 1/8th??

Mr. Luos
11-13-2006, 07:51 PM
My best 1/8th trap to date is a 91.7.
Just spinning.

Sometimes I honestly don't realize how slow my car is. You get used to the power.

eclipsed at 3am
11-13-2006, 08:00 PM
My best 1/8th trap to date is a 91.7.
Just spinning.

Sometimes I honestly don't realize how slow my car is. You get used to the power.

what do those numbers in your sig mean

Mr. Luos
11-13-2006, 08:17 PM
Nothing.
They are a joke. :lol:

eclipsed at 3am
11-13-2006, 09:44 PM
alright hahah...i thought so but i wasnt sure. dude those times are HOT

viperh
11-14-2006, 05:29 PM
What kind of supporting mods did you have?
Well this isn't an eclipse forum but I had
FMIC
Boost controller
S-afc 2
Turbo Timer
3" exhaust through a highflo cat dumped under the passenger seat (RRE exhaust)
RRE Lightened flywheel
ACT 2600
Polly urethane (Every mount possible)
Equal Length Exhaust Manifold
Whalbro 255lph fuel pump
720cc Fuel Injectors (Denso If i remember correctly)
MSD Ignition wire and NGK plugs
Balance Shaft Eliminators
Wiseco Pistons
3 angle valve jobs on the head
HKS 272 /264 cams
2g MAF
KYB AGX shocks
TRE Tranny
4 bolt rear.
All I remember off the top of my head its been a couple of years since I had it.

Mr. Luos
11-14-2006, 06:35 PM
alright hahah...i thought so but i wasnt sure. dude those times are HOT
Best ET in the 1/8....7.711.
And that is 5800 feet above sea level.


Thanks!!

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