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Installing Drfit Rear Bumper?EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 08:06 PM Ok I just got a drift rear bumper for my 2002 Cavalier LS and the company i bought it from said if would fit a 95-02.. when comparing it to my old stock bumper it seems alot bigger but this might be because its alot stiffer then my stock one is and hasn't really been formed yet. I was wondering if anyone else has installed a drift rear bumper on ther cavalier??.. also do i need to modify the stock rear bumper support or the ruber support guard or do I need to remove the rubber guard off the metal rear support? Or do i need to buy a custume bumper support to replace the stock one?? I've cut the crap out of the back end to try and get this thing to fit properly over my rear bumper support with the rubber still intact. I have one to replace it with if I have to go back stock but I dont see this thing fitting on the back of the car with out modifing the stock stuff. when i got the drift bumper it had a notch in it almost like if it was for the tail pipe but later i realised that it was a diagram to cut the bottum of the bumper a bit or at least that what i've seen on other cars with the same drift kit. Anyways if anyone could give me some info or point me in the right direction maybe with some installation guids?? I work for a body shop and i've never seen anything like im almost to the point of replacing it with a diffrent bumper.. so far i have a blitz front bumper and drift side skirts not sure what else would look goood in the back. my99cavy 10-04-2006, 08:54 PM Derk the one guy on here just bought a drift kit and is in the middle of installing it on his cavy. so wait until he posts on here with his advice. You should of just went with the Drift kit all the way around instead of using the Blitz from bumper. jerseycavyz24 10-04-2006, 09:08 PM Yes ur gonna have to remove the back bumper support otherwise it isnt going to fit. Lances133 10-04-2006, 09:09 PM ....hope you guys don't get tanked from behind. EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 09:16 PM ....hope you guys don't get tanked from behind. :eek: um shiz... cuz i've had some really bad luck with getting hit lately i've been hit 3 times twice in the back and once in the front.. are u sure thers not suposed to be any support in the back?? becaue your right if i get tanked in the back that the end of my car theyd go straight thro the trunk lol... can u verifie this?? I might just wont to get a diffrent bumper. ANy sugesstions? on a bumper that would go with a blitz front and drfit side skirts?? the reason i went with blitz front and drift back and sides is because i've seen it done before and it looks very nice not may peopel do this but damn if im going to take both the rubber and the metal support out lol.. but this would explain why you can see it hanging out at the bottum huh?? my99cavy 10-04-2006, 09:22 PM check here for rear bumpers, im not sure what would look good with a blitz from bumper..http://gravanatuning.com/applications/2002_Chevrolet_Cavalier_Coupe_2.2.aspx?cat=5 Lances133 10-04-2006, 09:49 PM Maybe if you went with an 03+ Cavalier Ls sport bumper EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 09:52 PM Maybe if you went with an 03+ Cavalier Ls sport bumper :banghead: na thats what i got bro.. my car 2002-2003 model Cavalier LS sport edition with the total package ground kit and all Im looking for custom build ya know?? my99cavy 10-04-2006, 09:54 PM What about this one I think it would go good with the drift skirts http://gravanatuning.com/prod_images/large/VRS-35009.jpghttp://gravanatuning.com/prod_images/large/VIS-95CHCAV2DBZ-004STR.jpg EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 10:03 PM Yea I've seen that one.. and i like its looks still looking tho. who'd you say was puting a drift kit on his car?? can i get some contact info for him forum name e-mail if hes provided one somthing?? my99cavy 10-04-2006, 10:05 PM Yea I've seen that one.. and i like its looks still looking tho. who'd you say was puting a drift kit on his car?? can i get some contact info for him forum name e-mail if hes provided one somthing??Yeah his username is Derk_eliso and if you go back a page find his name and click on it then you can send him a PM. But I can almost gaurntee that once he gets on he will post in this thread because it has to do with the drift kit. EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 10:11 PM ok thanks for the info man ill keep this post hot and keep and eye out for him. my99cavy 10-04-2006, 10:12 PM ok thanks for the info man ill keep this post hot and keep and eye out for him.No problem bro, do you have any pics of the car even though it isnt finished? jerseycavyz24 10-04-2006, 10:15 PM yea but u gotta remember any bodykit ur puttin on ur gonna have to take the rear foam support out reguardless Lances133 10-04-2006, 10:16 PM :banghead: na thats what i got bro.. my car 2002-2003 model Cavalier LS sport edition with the total package ground kit and all Im looking for custom build ya know?? 02 and 03 ls sport bumpers look totally different from each other, and if you're worried about the support in the bumper, maybe you wouldnt have to remove it with an 03+ bumper, and they almost look like body kits as well. You could spend the money on another aftermarket bumper and be stuck with the same problem. yea but u gotta remember any bodykit ur puttin on ur gonna have to take the rear foam support out reguardless lol exactly, he must've posted this while i was typing all that. Here's an 03 ls sport bumper... http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/PropsRI/002351-E.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/PropsRI/002683-E.jpg EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 10:21 PM yea but u gotta remember any bodykit ur puttin on ur gonna have to take the rear foam support out reguardless Well mine was rubber.. but either way its not the foam/rubber im woried about its removing the metal support bar in the back.. with out either one of them.. somone hits me in the back -=The End=- that a drift rear bumper in that picture of yours insn't it? That picture of the 03 LS is almost the same as mine expect a little diffrence in the very back of the bumper. and the skirt is alot lower on mine and cut diffrent for my crome tail pipe Derk_eliso 10-04-2006, 10:26 PM I guess that makes me the go to guy then eh? Well I havn't attempted putting my DRIFT rear on yet. I was just looking at the steps it would take. Is yours wider then your stock bumper too? Mine is about 3 inches wider, so Needless to say it's going to have to bend. I had to remove the bumper guard or whatever you called it, in the front, if not it would have stuck out about 3 inches farther than it should and the spots where you're suppose to pre-drill wouldn't line up...Plus there's no room for my intercooler, lol so we had to chuck that... I wasn't sure if there was one in the back or not, I figured that much. and As far as I knew, you had to remove them to install aftermarket kits anyway... Did you do your side-skirts yourself, or did you have a pro do it? Cuz that's what I'm pondering on right now. my99cavy 10-04-2006, 10:26 PM Also it doesnt really matter how much foam you have in there to begin with, if someone hits your hard enough the foam really isnt going to help lol jerseycavyz24 10-04-2006, 10:26 PM yup. yea u dont have to remove the medal support just the foam or in ur case rubber. my99cavy 10-04-2006, 10:28 PM I was just looking at the steps it would take. Is yours wider then your stock bumper too? Mine is about 3 inches wider, so Needless to say it's going to have to bend. The things you discover if you read...:thumbsup: when comparing it to my old stock bumper it seems alot bigger but this might be because its alot stiffer then my stock one is and hasn't really been formed yet. jerseycavyz24 10-04-2006, 10:31 PM yea the install is gonna suck cause theres only like 2 after market bodykit rear bumpers that actually fit the cavalier and the drift kit isnt one of them :shakehead Derk_eliso 10-04-2006, 10:35 PM The things you discover if you read...:thumbsup: yeah I saw Bigger..i wasn't sure if Bigger constituted Larger in size vertically or horizontally... thanks Cheech:flipa: :bananadie EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 10:39 PM I guess that makes me the go to guy then eh? Well I havn't attempted putting my DRIFT rear on yet. I was just looking at the steps it would take. Is yours wider then your stock bumper too? Mine is about 3 inches wider, so Needless to say it's going to have to bend. I had to remove the bumper guard or whatever you called it, in the front, if not it would have stuck out about 3 inches farther than it should and the spots where you're suppose to pre-drill wouldn't line up...Plus there's no room for my intercooler, lol so we had to chuck that... I wasn't sure if there was one in the back or not, I figured that much. and As far as I knew, you had to remove them to install aftermarket kits anyway... Did you do your side-skirts yourself, or did you have a pro do it? Cuz that's what I'm pondering on right now. First off no i haven't done the side skirts but ther kinda the least of my problem lol Because at least from what i've seen those aren't 3 inches bigger then the stock. My dad and I work for a body shop.. and we do most the work out of my dads garage.. so far the things I have tryed in the back.. One I cut the Rubber/foam on the bottum to try and get it to fit. ten i cut the medal support bar on the bottom.. then finally riped the shiz off outa fustration... and now it atleast fits to the back of the car.. something i've noticed tho the medal support bar in the back is still visible underneath and looks terible all though mine could be hanging an inch or 2 lower then its suposed to because i got hit in the back and the back was pushed in a good bit and I had to pull it out. But anyways yeah it hang out about an inch underneath and looks really bad.. and then trying to get it pushed in on both side to drill it to the back its about 2-3 inches bigger it seems like... than the stock one almost as if it was made for a wider body style?? I looked up on alot of website and beleave it or not I found one website that said the drift kit they where selling was for an older modle wide body cavalier. but i refuse to listen to one source of information. Did your drift kit come already cut out on the bottom of does yours have a cut out on the back left side.. that looks like where u would put the tail pipe?? because if seen one other person wioth a drift kit and they cut the bottom side to side useing that pre-cut as a diagram? my99cavy 10-04-2006, 10:39 PM ^No problem derk just giving ya a hard time. Derk_eliso 10-04-2006, 10:47 PM Just playing back Zach, lol. and yes It's pre-cut for the muffler. Actually great spot, fits perfect, lol. I havn't tried to fit it on there, with the old bumper off yet. So I'm not sure on the placement, and the hanging..but which support bar are we talking about? You mean the one that the actual bumper is bolted into? b/c if so then it must be seriously bent dude, lol. EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 11:00 PM Just playing back Zach, lol. and yes It's pre-cut for the muffler. Actually great spot, fits perfect, lol. I havn't tried to fit it on there, with the old bumper off yet. So I'm not sure on the placement, and the hanging..but which support bar are we talking about? You mean the one that the actual bumper is bolted into? b/c if so then it must be seriously bent dude, lol. Im talkin about the medal support bar that is bolted onto the back of the car. Mine then had a rubber guard over it that lined up pretty good underneath the trunk lid. my bumper it self was mainly attached the side under the trunk and on the side behind the wheels. Dont recall it actually being bolted ont the medal support in the back or the rubber either. the rubber was tacked on with ribits. Could u post a picture of your drift bumper i swear i had to cut mine because the medal support bar was in the way even with the rubber guard off.. and like I said before yea mine hang out and that with an inch cut off. This is after i cut it straight across from the pre-cut they already but in it... the reson i cut it is because the square they cut in the bottom looked crazy for the tail pipe and I was planing on making my duel piped in the back and every car i've seen duel piped the drift kit was cut out across the bottom to open it up.. even with out the cut... the pre-cut the factory or who ever cut on the left side.. the medal support bar was still visible. The car would defently have to be lowerd a good bit. not to mention when u push it in on both side it bubles the middle of the bumber under the trunk so that would have to be filled in. EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 11:07 PM also along with the trunk bubling in the middle i notice the place on mine for the LIC TAG isn't big enoufe my Lic Tag wont fit in it. my dads like ther is no way this thing is made for this car but atleast i see im not the only one that has a bumber about 3 inches bigger then its supposed to be. Derk_eliso 10-04-2006, 11:10 PM I don't have it installed yet. and I read through that twice and still didn't get it...but it's okay, lol. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Derk_eliso/DSC00597.jpg EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 11:18 PM I don't have it installed yet. and I read through that twice and still didn't get it...but it's okay, lol. Damn WTF mine is like BLack and I dont think my Lic. Plate Tag place is as big as yours.. I swear im thinking more and more that this is not the right bumper for my car but I see your does hand out a little on the sides. is it a little flexable?? or completly stiff and have to use some man power to get the sides to move in a little bit?? sorry my typing sucks if I was talking to you on the phone you'd understand me im jsut fustrated.. im riding around charlottle North Carolina with no bumper on my car.. have u tryed to fit your tag on if or held it up to it im just curious.. do you think its going to fit fine?? EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 11:22 PM whered u get your bumper?? and have you ever taken your stock bumper off? because the pices under the tail lights are attached to the stock bumper so u have to get replacements... I supposed of cut them off and completly viberglass them to the car and smoth it out?? I duno haven't gotten that far yet any ideas? jerseycavyz24 10-04-2006, 11:28 PM the bumper should def fit with the metal brace attatched. i kno with my car i had to cut that bottom piece out cause my muffler was to big and kept rubbing against the one side. EbenLudwig 10-04-2006, 11:30 PM the bumper should def fit with the metal brace attatched. i kno with my car i had to cut that bottom piece out cause my muffler was to big and kept rubbing against the one side. what about the tag could u post a picture of the back of your car?? Lances133 10-05-2006, 02:09 AM You can buy those squarish panels above the bumper at www.aplusperformance.com jerseycavyz24 10-05-2006, 07:25 AM Derk_eliso 10-05-2006, 09:33 AM http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a37/mxb987/DSC04454-1.jpg have I mentioned lately that I love you? lol. I can't get those brackets to fit on my trunk..they're too big to go down in the holes, how'd you get yours in there?? my99cavy 10-05-2006, 11:04 AM jerseycavyz24 10-05-2006, 12:45 PM Yea so them brackets....u get them off of ebay? If so....yea throw them out or use them for a door or something lol. Certain cars cant use brackets (cavaliers,sunfires, grand am, pretty much anything american) What your gonna have to do is cut part of the metal off the trunk where the existing bolts are and make new ones that come in from the side. EbenLudwig 10-05-2006, 04:23 PM Yea so them brackets....u get them off of ebay? If so....yea throw them out or use them for a door or something lol. Certain cars cant use brackets (cavaliers,sunfires, grand am, pretty much anything american) What your gonna have to do is cut part of the metal off the trunk where the existing bolts are and make new ones that come in from the side. what brackets are u guys talking baout.. I must be really lost... i dont even know how to mount this thing .. how do you get it to stay up in the middle under the trunk, and wher'd you guys get your drift bumpers because im still thinking mine isn't the right one or a really crapy maker because like i said before the tag doesn't even fit. Classicrocjunkie 10-05-2006, 04:55 PM Rear bumpers on these cars are a pain in the ass... before... http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4629/dscf0615ax7.jpg Then using my noodle... http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8650/dscf0715bo6.jpg I used L-brackets and put them behind the bolts that hold the filler plates in place. EbenLudwig 10-05-2006, 05:40 PM well i measured the bumper and its like 2-2 1/2 inches shorter than the stock one and the place for the tag is like 5-51/2 inches and a normal tag is like over 6 inches so its like an inch-inch 1/2 to small to even place the tag in it. I just really wont to know where u guys got your drift bumper because im going to try returning this one and going with a diffrent company. my99cavy 10-05-2006, 05:59 PM Derk got his kit from ebay so..... Not too sure where the other guys got theres from, me on the other hand found it in a dumpster behind me work :). Derk_eliso 10-05-2006, 07:51 PM ..Where are you from dude? Perhaps you got a europeon or Vuaxhall Cavalier one? What you guys think? Do you have a picture of it? my99cavy 10-05-2006, 08:11 PM ..Where are you from dude? Perhaps you got a europeon or Vuaxhall Cavalier one? What you guys think?Well hes from North Carolina, again the things you learn from reading(like his profile :thumbsup:) I really dont think he got a Vauxhall cavalier bumper lol EbenLudwig 10-05-2006, 09:20 PM ..Where are you from dude? Perhaps you got a europeon or Vuaxhall Cavalier one? What you guys think? Do you have a picture of it? Actually I would have to agree... the drift kit or drfit bumper has been made for more cars than just the cavalier.... I got the kit from kidimports.com. My kit was completly white just like the picture shown on page 2 of the post, exepct for the drift bumper (it was black). Now kid imports had to get this order from a ware house.. the ware house calls me and tells me the one they have in stock is cracked, and they try to sell me of trade me a diffrent bumper I tell them no I like the drift rear bumper thats why I purchased it. He said ok sir but we will have to get one shiped into us and it could take 2-3 weeks for them to ship it to us. So I said ok thats fine im not in a hurry. Now like I said the front bumper and side skirts are white but this thing comes black, I only check it for crack and damage. I see none so I say okay this si cool, and sighned off on it. So now that I'm trying to install the bumper I notice that it look nothing like the picture on page 2 of this post or any of the picture, it is alot wider, and alot shorter It is 10inches compared to my stock 12 and a 1/2 inches... and I also notice that the place for the tag is much smaller and it dosen't fit. So it may be a foreign bumper?? Any one else agree??? my99cavy 10-05-2006, 09:25 PM Well there was your first mistake, ordering a kit out of the country :shakehead: then yes I find it highly likely that it could be a foreign bumper is the place for the plate long and pretty skinny?.....pics? EbenLudwig 10-05-2006, 09:27 PM Ok i still want other peoples opinions but I think i have comfirmed that this is a european calavier bumper not only is that moddle wider but its much lower to the ground witch explain it being shorter then the others i've seen.. also european tags are much smaller witch explain why my tag doesn't fit in the place for the Lic Plate. So... :uhoh: uh! EbenLudwig 10-05-2006, 09:31 PM Well there was your first mistake, ordering a kit out of the country :shakehead: then yes I find it highly likely that it could be a foreign bumper is the place for the plate long and pretty skinny?.....pics? Yes long and skinny like a euro tag... I can't take a pic because the car is in my garage and the bumper is in my dads garage lol. ill get u guys pics later. Um the rest of the kit from what I can see looks fine.. Kid Imports is in the US and so is the ware house, but the ware house and kid imports dont work for each other so the ware house ship kid imports the wrong one.. and more then likely it was ship out of country. Derk_eliso 10-06-2006, 11:32 PM TAKE PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...sorry, that would help me see it better, lol. and when I said European I was implying "foreign license" lol my99cavy 10-07-2006, 03:03 PM ^Please post some pics :) there you go me to say please so now you have to take some pics. Derk_eliso 10-08-2006, 08:00 PM I'll tell you my hopeful success story, we'll put it on Wednesday. EbenLudwig 10-09-2006, 06:59 PM Please do and if u can post pics.. i would really love to get a pic of the bumper at eye level not a downward looking shoot. Thanks for all of the info everyone.. im just waiting on info from kid-imports... hes suposed to be getting ahold of the manufacturer, then getting back to me. Hopefully will beable to send this COD then get a new one this time a US version lol. Derk_eliso 10-09-2006, 07:42 PM About the Vauxhall, I looked them up today. I was amazed. They have a turbo 2.5 V6 version, producing near 200 horses stock. Also checked out car domain, I was searching for the body kit (like the rear bumper) but they all had the license plate on the trunk lid, not the bumper...so it wasn't from a european (Vauxhall) Cavalier, probably just a generic Drift kit EbenLudwig 10-09-2006, 10:43 PM About the Vauxhall, I looked them up today. I was amazed. They have a turbo 2.5 V6 version, producing near 200 horses stock. Also checked out car domain, I was searching for the body kit (like the rear bumper) but they all had the license plate on the trunk lid, not the bumper...so it wasn't from a european (Vauxhall) Cavalier, probably just a generic Drift kit Well either way it was a pice of shiz.. was to small, and tag dosen't fit.. I just want it replaced. :banghead: EbenLudwig 10-09-2006, 11:44 PM Hey anyone know somone that makes this spoiler?? Venom Custom Fiberglass Spoiler http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/413000-413999/413925_89_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/413000-413999/413925_90_full.jpg Derk_eliso 10-09-2006, 11:46 PM I don't like it...leave a message on that guys Car Domain site and ask him. EbenLudwig 10-09-2006, 11:54 PM I don't like it...leave a message on that guys Car Domain site and ask him. Yea.. im still looking. What spoilers look good on the cavy?? I think I want to stay clear of putting a wing on it I haven't seen any wings that look good. Thats the first spoiler that i've seen that looks half way decent and not to over bulky. I want one that comes off the trunk a little, the stock one I have looks good and its dif from most cavys around my area, but washing the damn thing is a pain in the arse water gets up under it and leaks through out the day so I want one thats raised a little. Derk_eliso 10-10-2006, 12:05 AM I'm not sure if I can do it. But I would love to have one of the stock wings off of a 3000 GT P.I.M.P! http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/mitsubishi/1998/98_mitsubishi_3000gt_vr4_2.jpg http://www.kitdown.com/%5Cimages%5CMitsubishi%5CGTW%5CMIGTW0001%5CMIGTW00 01.jpg EbenLudwig 10-10-2006, 12:25 AM Don't they have somthing really close to that only smaller?? I've seen one floating around here somwhere.. if I find it ill post it. Unless u already know where to look. Lances133 10-10-2006, 02:02 AM I like that Venom one alot, i've never seen it before tho. I personally want to throw a Celica TRD wing or an Evo8+ wing on mine. You could always try a Cobalt SS wing. my99cavy 10-10-2006, 11:10 AM I like that Venom one alot, i've never seen it before tho. I personally want to throw a Celica TRD wing or an Evo8+ wing on mine. You could always try a Cobalt SS wing.:iagree: I think that Venom spoiler doesnt look too bad, alos I like the Celica TRD or EVO wings alot, also think they would look pretty sweet on a cavy. Maybe something for Lance to photoshop hmmmmmmmm..... Then again I think the stock z24 spoiler looks really good too. Lances133 10-10-2006, 11:47 AM I'll photoshop em today, I don't have much else to do. I'm thinking about putting an 00-02 spoiler with the third brake light in it on my car, to go with the 03 tails, so i'd have all 3 styles on my rear end.....:eek7:...:disappoin...a 98 rear with an 00 spoiler, and 03 taillights Derk_eliso 10-12-2006, 04:56 PM well... Let's see them! Derk_eliso 10-12-2006, 04:58 PM back to the original thread... Bumper. yeah my "friend" had to study for a mid-term. So he's coming over Friday, and we'll have all day to do it Friday. So Wednesday night, instead of doing the bumper, I managed to achieve this by myself. http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2362000-2362999/2362121_95_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2362000-2362999/2362121_96_full.jpg Lances133 10-12-2006, 06:05 PM well... Let's see them! Well, I did 2 quick ones not too great but it gives you the idea... http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/PropsRI/427046_72_full.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/PropsRI/Rear.jpg jerseycavyz24 10-12-2006, 11:33 PM Both Look very good my99cavy 10-13-2006, 10:38 AM Derk - Looks really great man!! You need to shave the molding now and paint it :) Lance - Both those looks pretty sweet, that spoiler may be something to consider later on for me. Derk_eliso 10-13-2006, 03:15 PM Thanks and boys! The Bumper Goes on...TONIGHT! Lances133 10-13-2006, 05:10 PM In the words of DMX..."TALK IS CHEAP MOTHA F*CKA!!!!* (uzi machine gun goes off) Derk_eliso 10-13-2006, 07:00 PM yeah talk is cheap and my back bumper is a bitch! well, my crack doubled in size, and it buckled in the middle like Cody's did. and my drill died....so we'll see where we get tonight, I might finish tonight, lol. my99cavy 10-14-2006, 03:28 PM ^Damn that sucks about the bumper :lol: The waves in the bumper are an easy fit, but the crack may be a bitch. Derk_eliso 10-14-2006, 06:04 PM Friday the 13th...that's why! My friend also totalled his Camaro... He got it Friday....he wrecked it 7 days later...(yesterday) I blame that one friday the 13th too. oh I said my drill died, I didn't mean like the battery died. I mean like the whole thing doens't work. Either I have bad batteries or I have a bad charger, regardless....I still need a drill to finish..I'm 8 holes/8 screws and some fiberglass resin away from being done...no scratch that. I need to cut out the hole for my exhuast, and cut a hole for my license plate light, and then drill holes for the screws for that... yeah, it will be fun as soon as I find a drill!!!!!!!! Lances133 10-14-2006, 06:12 PM I'm in a bind myself, I dunno if I should buy this kid's carbon fiber TRD kit or go for the sunfire front end swap with the street fire front and cf hood with eyelids Derk_eliso 10-14-2006, 09:33 PM sunfire swap,....sexxxy Lances133 10-14-2006, 09:39 PM Made a new thread for it, check it out EbenLudwig 10-15-2006, 11:56 AM Well thouse pics look really nice guys... and Derk im glad you've made some progress. I had to take pictures of my bumper and send then into kidimports so he can fight my case and get me a new bumper so im still driven around with my pos car with no bumper. :banghead: Derk_eliso 10-15-2006, 12:21 PM still waiting on somebody I know that has a drill. I might break down and use my uncles...but if I ask to use it, he'll ask me what i need it for, then I'll have to try to explain to him what a body kit is, and it's purpose, and why I need it, and blah blah blah. Then he'll tell me about his 20 p.o.s. cars he's had and how "cool" they were and blah blah. you're not getting it...this guy would talk the ears off a corpse! *sigh* well I don't wanna drive around without a bumper... my99cavy 10-16-2006, 10:39 AM Made a new thread for it, check it outTRD kit all the way. Derk_eliso 10-17-2006, 12:59 AM okay heres the dealio...did it look like your license plate would go in..if you pushed on it a little bit...like if you slid the bottom in first...then slide the top in and forced it in..like maybe it was 2 or 3 centimeters too short??cuz I had to force my license plate in there...and bent it a bit..... i'll post my videos tomorrow i'm freaking tired. g'night. EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 04:17 PM okay heres the dealio...did it look like your license plate would go in..if you pushed on it a little bit...like if you slid the bottom in first...then slide the top in and forced it in..like maybe it was 2 or 3 centimeters too short??cuz I had to force my license plate in there...and bent it a bit..... i'll post my videos tomorrow i'm freaking tired. g'night. na thers no way man, not on this one it was a good inch if not more to small i would have had to cut it to even begin to start forcing it in. and fropm the picture you posted i can tell by just looking at it its bigger then mine. Also both my front bumper and side skirts were from vfiber but this one came in just plastic.. and like i stated they were diffrent colors the rear bumper was black everyhting else was white. The metal bumper support hang out from the bottum of it, and lets see it was fiber glass and the front and side skrits were not. my99cavy 10-17-2006, 05:37 PM ^so are you ever going to take pictures of this bumper Ludwig?? EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 09:57 PM http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper1.jpg?bfEzYNFBp_p6M6A3 http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper2.jpg?bfEzYNFBOcTRJKDl http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper3.jpg?bfEzYNFBAmamRAGo http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper4.jpg?bfEzYNFBdNQNxTAB my99cavy 10-17-2006, 10:30 PM http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper1.jpg?bfEzYNFBp_p6M6A3 http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper2.jpg?bfEzYNFBOcTRJKDl http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper3.jpg?bfEzYNFBAmamRAGo http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4096e397_8012/bc/My+Documents/bumper4.jpg?bfEzYNFBdNQNxTABhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/YogsVR4/3239badlink.gif EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 10:38 PM they not show? my99cavy 10-17-2006, 10:40 PM they not show?You would be correct. EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 10:45 PM http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7035/bumper1lq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/v_images.php) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7894/bumper2ao5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/v_images.php) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4274/bumper3zf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/v_images.php) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7272/bumper4ty5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/v_images.php) how about now? my99cavy 10-17-2006, 10:47 PM Yeah they worked that time......hmmm looks a little long. EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 11:01 PM Yeah they worked that time......hmmm looks a little long. Shorter too. Doesn't go to the ground as much as Derk's does. Also explains why theres no way forceing the tag in would ever work.. the tag would deff. have to be cut, and well you can't do that. The freaking dealer wants me to take a full shoot of the bumper left to right up against the car.. I guess he dosen't beleave thouse pictures up there^^ oh and his arse said if the bumper is hitting the exhaust then to cut it a little.. I jsut laughed im like dude im not that freaking stupid that the least of my worries... I told him it had nothing to do with the exhaust the damn thing just isn't right.. the guy sold me a off brand part and im really pissed about it... if he would have jsut sent the damn vfiber bumper like the rest of the parts it would have been fine. my99cavy 10-17-2006, 11:04 PM I hope that idiot plans on refunding or sending you the correct bumper. EbenLudwig 10-17-2006, 11:11 PM I hope that idiot plans on refunding or sending you the correct bumper. Uh me too man.. im deffintly going to fight this... i think its BS that i have to keep sending pictures the guy just can't admit they screwd up. I mean damn should have not the color triggered somthing?? Thats the biggest reason I think this whole thing is BS I mean first off the whole kit was suposed to be VFiber and 2 of the parts were and the bumper.. well I have no freaking clue what brand the bumper is.. im sick of fighting these people, its going on a month and I've been riding around with no bumper. Like I said I will fight this even if I have to take drastict measures. Derk_eliso 10-18-2006, 12:04 AM honestly..I think if you cut a line so that your muffler would fit..you could slide it back, and bolt it to your metal bumper...perhaps you have a 95-99? I had to push on mine, for mine to go flush, and they were still weird...i ended up cracking the bottom lip :( but it's okay. but mine is still WAVEY!!!! i'll think of something... EbenLudwig 10-18-2006, 12:13 AM honestly..I think if you cut a line so that your muffler would fit..you could slide it back, and bolt it to your metal bumper...perhaps you have a 95-99? I had to push on mine, for mine to go flush, and they were still weird...i ended up cracking the bottom lip :( but it's okay. but mine is still WAVEY!!!! i'll think of something... The muffler isn't even close enough... to hit or to be effecting it, its alot further back then it looks in the pictures... its shorter then your bumper man the metal bumper support is what messing it up it doesn't fit up against the car. The metal support bar should not be that visible when looking at the car from behind it should fit inside the bumper. Mine does not. My car is a 02 and yeah it could be a diffrent bumper like a 99 or whatever. Alls I know is that I didn't get what I payed for.. I payed for a full VFiber drift kit and I got a POS excuss for a bumper.. just because they wanted to cut corners and ship me the BS. It also leaves a huge gap between the trunk and the bumper where it has to sit because it wont go up any further. Im not even going to try and fully mount the POS due to the whole under car being visible including the freaking metal support bar. Derk_eliso 10-18-2006, 12:26 AM good choice, send it back get what you need :) Lances133 10-18-2006, 02:22 AM Why can't you put the stock bumper back on? EbenLudwig 10-18-2006, 06:30 AM Why can't you put the stock bumper back on? Because the rear bumper... the one from the pics was hit pretty good and its crack on both sides where it contects to the car behind the wheels. It hangs down alot, and is warped. So it had to come off either way, the right side is so bad that it woud take for ever to even try to fix it.. due to where the crack is located. Lances133 10-18-2006, 01:31 PM oh alright, that explains it EbenLudwig 10-18-2006, 06:35 PM Here you go guys got you some more eye candy lol j/k..... http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9502/b1pq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9200/b2ev3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7479/b3ti6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4733/b4ka6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/853/b5yw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6473/b6qp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2093/b7ag7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=) Classicrocjunkie 10-18-2006, 07:23 PM Urethane bumpers man... a little extra money, fitment is top notch. Lances133 10-18-2006, 08:11 PM How did you fix the waves you had in the rear again Cody? I can't remember. Derk_eliso 10-20-2006, 11:42 AM that's exactly how my license fit....still american, just wrong bumper... Derk_eliso 10-24-2006, 11:26 PM Derk_eliso 10-24-2006, 11:45 PM Lances133 10-25-2006, 02:37 AM Well done, now paint it lol Derk_eliso 10-25-2006, 10:48 AM christmas money!...actually I'm going to sell my old bumpers and buy F1 fenders!...THEN paint everything...:) Lances133 10-25-2006, 01:18 PM I commend you on going with F1 rather then Z3, which everybody and their brother gets. BabyCavyZ 10-25-2006, 05:51 PM yea me too i had mentioned them in another post and was wondering if any1 had them or had seen them, but hopefully i get to see it on urs first. the kit looks really nice. Now i got a question. Since i have dual exhaust if i buy a kit that has dual openings will it fit my duals? or should i buy a normal back and cut another hole? Derk_eliso 10-25-2006, 08:10 PM i dunno, if not you always cut it out. BabyCavyZ 10-25-2006, 11:06 PM alrite, http://grounddynamics.com/merchant/mainpage.htm , that is the rear bumper i was looking at and i was curious if that would def fit or not. but i mean if not i would probably get a single and juss cut the other out. Derk_eliso 10-26-2006, 02:48 AM just brings up the main page, what's the name of it? BabyCavyZ 10-26-2006, 01:42 PM xtreme gt rear bumper... for the 99 Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 07:19 PM I dunno, I guess it all depends on where they were hung at. Like mine was too far to the right...so I really don't know.. Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 07:20 PM look at this. I was searching drift kits for cavalier on the internet and I found this a little reassuring. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Derk_eliso/1317747_2_full.jpg that kind of looks like my car, minus the whole tri-color deal...anyway, he turned that into... http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Derk_eliso/1317747_5_full.jpg which just gives me wood, lol. Makes me want to run and get it painted right now, lol. Lances133 10-27-2006, 07:38 PM That's one of my favorite kits but for some reason that car is not impressing me. Maybe it's the black, or because the dummy left the door strikes on. Or maybe because I'm a firm believer in getting rims before a bodykit and paint. :dunno: Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 08:21 PM hmm, picky? lol. nah I agree with ya, but I was focusing on the kit itself, lol. Lances133 10-27-2006, 08:30 PM I am very picky when it comes to cars, I'll point out anything I can find. Yours is gonna look tits on your car with your rims and head/taillight combo. You should wrap the lower middle of your bumper in a layer or 2 of Cf vinyl or just black. Omg and if you got a Cf hood, your car would be fuckin SHWEEET. Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 08:37 PM yeah I'd love a vis evo http://images.andale.com/f2/121/127/10579138/1094997442239_Cavalier_95_02_evo_HOOD.jpg or vis invader CF hood. http://images.andale.com/f2/121/127/10579138/1087549251228_Cavalier_95_02_VS_HOOD.jpg JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 08:40 PM Ya im the same way i think u should allways buy rims before a body kit even if that black cav had Z24 rims instead of them shitty humcap ones it would look sweet Lances133 10-27-2006, 08:41 PM I like those too, you should check out the Cf turbo sport hood dude, i love it. But if you wanna wrap the middle of your bumper in Cf vinyl, the site in my sig has pretty realistic cf vinyl. It's not just black and grey squares, it's shiny and actually looks woven like real Cf. JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 08:47 PM lance r u still going thru with the sunfire conversion and any 1 know what spoiler this is http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_38_full.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_24_full.jpg Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 08:48 PM and any 1 know what spoiler this is http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_38_full.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_24_full.jpg the freaking bat wing ick:nono: Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 08:50 PM where can I find a pic of that hood?? Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 08:51 PM JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 08:52 PM im not sure what that hood is i was just looking at cav's on cardomain n thought the wing looked kinda sweet isn't that a SS hood? JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 08:58 PM U mean this hood right http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2386000-2386999/2386762_1_full.jpg Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 09:00 PM yeah but I think it looks dumb comming up that high.... I would want something a little less "hey..you wanna race?" lol. Lances133 10-27-2006, 09:01 PM [LEFT]lance r u still going thru with the sunfire conversion and any 1 know what spoiler this is Yeah I want to, and that wing is friggin AWESOME, i think it's think one...http://www.extremedimensions.com/6072.html Yes, Derk, that's the turbo sport hood, I LOVE IT JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 09:01 PM Ya i know what ya mean i like the look the the stock hood the best Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 09:05 PM I wouldn't mind one that came up and then back down, or in...I dunno, I guess I'm just picky, lol JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 09:08 PM hahaha ya u could allways custome make 1 last year in my auto body class me and a friend made a scoop like that but it dose come back down at the back looks really nice on his probe Ya i thought that spolier looked sweet too its on my wish list of body mods allot with a Blitz front body kit not to sure about the back or the side skirts tho Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 09:21 PM jay you need a smoke kit for your bumper and tail lights...that would be sweet :) JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 09:29 PM ya i was thinking about doing some stuff like that in the summer and fixing the scratchs on the front bumper from the previous owner and fender and rust Derk_eliso 10-27-2006, 09:31 PM and paint your drums and calipers RED! lol JaysZ24 10-27-2006, 09:32 PM I allready did that but i guess after the winter they wont look as good so it would be a good idea to do that again notaricajustfasta 10-28-2006, 01:23 AM lance r u still going thru with the sunfire conversion and any 1 know what spoiler this is http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_38_full.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/289000-289999/289362_24_full.jpg I found it I found it!!! Its this wing... http://grounddynamics.com/merchant/mainpage.htm Do I win a prize? Lances133 10-28-2006, 04:21 PM Yeah I want to, and that wing is friggin AWESOME, i think it's think one...http://www.extremedimensions.com/6072.html Yes, Derk, that's the turbo sport hood, I LOVE IT Nope, because I didn't and I already found it before lol Derk_eliso 10-29-2006, 11:04 AM lol glory hog! Lances133 10-29-2006, 01:19 PM If you're referring to me, you're damn right! :lol: EbenLudwig 10-30-2006, 06:30 PM So Derk how’s that bumper coming?? I Still have had no luck getting mine replaced so now I’m looking for different company to get a replacement... anyone have any suggestions?? What Brand is your Derk??? Derk_eliso 10-30-2006, 06:35 PM ...ebay, lol. I have no clue dude. Did you watch my installation video? look at my new thread I just made, it has pics of it... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=638408 EbenLudwig 10-30-2006, 06:47 PM ...ebay, lol. I have no clue dude. Did you watch my installation video? look at my new thread I just made, it has pics of it... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=638408 Very Nice!! .... hmm whats the link to that Vid?? Derk_eliso 10-30-2006, 06:52 PM EbenLudwig 10-30-2006, 07:15 PM Thanks man, That looks awsome congratz... I meant to ask you did you have to remove the metal rear suport bar to get the bumper on, and what did you use to mount the bumper up near the trunk? Derk_eliso 10-30-2006, 07:28 PM no I didn't remove the metal bumper... and I used the metal bar you were talking about, lol. EbenLudwig 11-01-2006, 06:08 PM Ok!! Quiz of the day if u had to pick one of these bumpers to go with a blitz front and drift side skirts which would you pick i need lots of response guys thanks!! https://www.kidimports.com/products.asp?pid=20782 (https://www.kidimports.com/products.asp?pid=20782) https://www.kidimports.com/products.asp?pid=20791 (https://www.kidimports.com/products.asp?pid=20791) Lances133 11-01-2006, 06:13 PM Buddy Club2, hands down. EbenLudwig 11-01-2006, 06:19 PM Buddy Club2, hands down. thanks man im leaning towards that as well you think it will look fine with the drift side skirts tho ?? the skirts shoot out in the back and they of course match fine with the drift rear bumper but i've been having problems with this company being able to get me a replacement.. they told me they would send one of the two pumpers i listed absoulutly free of charge to replace my drift bumper that dosen't fit... any one else have feed back?? Lances133 11-01-2006, 06:52 PM I definitely think the BC2 rear would fit better then the Xplosion. Derk_eliso 11-01-2006, 10:14 PM I'm leaning towards neither...the second one (xplosion) has two hole, for dualies...and if you only had one it would look stupid.... so you'd have to through another 500-1G into your exhuast to have dualies....so fu*k that...and the first one has the exhaust on the wrong side.... Unless they're stupid and the pic was just reversed...which I think it may have been...wait lemme look at it agian.. no actually it looks right.. EbenLudwig 11-02-2006, 04:44 PM I'm leaning towards neither...the second one (xplosion) has two hole, for dualies...and if you only had one it would look stupid.... so you'd have to through another 500-1G into your exhuast to have dualies....so fu*k that...and the first one has the exhaust on the wrong side.... Unless they're stupid and the pic was just reversed...which I think it may have been...wait lemme look at it agian.. no actually it looks right.. I still think the bumper has left side exhaust... I think the picture is flipped I dont know any cavys with right side exhaust but even if the whole was on the right side I could easyly fix that... but I do think the picture is flipped because I looked the BC2 bumper up on other websites and everyone of thouse shows it on the left side so anyways, if the BC2 had the exhaust on the left would u go with it?? vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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