Who thinks da NSX is 2 expensive for it performance???

290 hp for $80,000 dat just crazy on a V6 too....... Honda can do better.......... U can Buy 2 vets for dat price with 400 Hp..... OR almost 3 S2000 wich only comes with about 40 hp less than da NSX.... and u could another $4,000 dollars to put an supercharger on da S2000 and you'll have more than enough power to take on an NSX..........FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICEHonda should be getting about 350 form dat engine.... THey DOnt NEed a V8 .......... Dat's just a selling scam so people would buy it...........


I think Honda has 2 options:
1. MORE HORSEPOWER....LOTS OF IT....I think Da ACura RL makes more than NSX on wat is basically Da same engine

2. BRing da COst down so it can be competive.......

You are obviously not the NSX's target buyer.

OH Really!!! then who is Some stupid rich guy who has nutting else to spend their money except on a car whose styling copies dat of a ferrari??? or whose performance can be beaten by a supped up integra or TT supra ( wich cost about $35 grand less for EXTREMELY better performance) OR some rich guy who SIMPLY doesnt KNOE any BEtter???

Originally posted by jay@af
You are obviously not the NSX's target buyer.


You never fail to keep me amused.

So you don't like the NSX, big whoop. You don't need to go bitching about it. You obviously don't see anything other then "how fast does it do the 1/4 mile in?" when you look at a car either. People enjoy different cars for different reasons. For example, if I could have a Supra that did a 7 second quarter mile, or a car that was one of 5 made ever, I would go with the one that there were only 5 of made. Even if it can't even go 60 mph. Different people like different things, so give your bitching a rest. No one cares.

Originally posted by WickedMethod
OH Really!!!Yes, really.

this guys a dumbass... does he have any clue how light the nsx is? maybe he doesnt know.

Clearly you didn't do ANY research on an NSX when you made this post. While 80K is a lot of money there is a lot more to a car than horsepower. Plenty of cheaper cars have more horsepower yet in my humble opinion an NSX is still worth every penny. You say an RL has almost the same engine? Not even close. An RL engine isn't even VTEC! You also mention copying Ferrari? The fact of the matter is the Modena 360 is more of a NSX copy than any car is history. They imitated everything about an NSX that makes it so unique. The precision involves in making this original all aluminum beauty is what makes it 80K. I doubt you'll get a better ride anywhere else, even if it's faster on a straightaway.

actually... the rl does have vtec!

Nobody seemed to mention that even though it has 280hp, its still faster than the Ferrari 355 with a claimed horsepower of 380. Not that its even doing the NSX justice by saying that. That car is a piece of engineering art. But i figured it should be said considering the accuser's approach.

Oh and i could be mistaken, but the difference between the RL and the NSX is DOHC. The RL is missing a couple cams...

And one last, minute thing...

There isnt a stock Supra turbo from anytime thats going to beat the NSX even in the quarter mile. It really isnt even close. The NSX will usually win by about 2 or more car lengths. And just ask me to back it up. Ill send videos. One: Skyline GT-R R34 vs SupraTT. Supra is owned. #2 Skyline GT-R R34 vs Honda NSX Type-S Zero. GT-R takes a seat as well. Or maybe a web site, check JB cars. Or you can even check an actual GT-R website. Not to down the GT-R, which is an amazing machine... and im rambling. Ive made my point.:rolleyes:

people don't buy cars just so they can go around hitting 11 sec 1/4's. the reason the nsx is so popular in my opinion is it's exclusivity (if that's even a word :confused: ). Also the nsx could probably outhandle ANY of those cars that you listed. and another thing, aren't used nsx's going for about 30 g's? and the nsx hasn't changed much over 10 years......so in conclusion...............:finger:

sorry. but i think the corvette z06 has better handling so the nsx could outhandle ALMOST any of those cars......

Well, you can argue vette handles better, nsx better... but the nsx has a lower center of gravity and has a wider wheel base and its lighter. Just to throw some facts in there...

Who thinks da NSX is 2 expensive for it performance???

290 hp for $80,000 dat just crazy on a V6 too....... Honda can do better.......... U can Buy 2 vets for dat price with 400 Hp..... OR almost 3 S2000 wich only comes with about 40 hp less than da NSX.... and u could another $4,000 dollars to put an supercharger on da S2000 and you'll have more than enough power to take on an NSX..........FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICEHonda should be getting about 350 form dat engine.... THey DOnt NEed a V8 .......... Dat's just a selling scam so people would buy it...........


I think Honda has 2 options:
1. MORE HORSEPOWER....LOTS OF IT....I think Da ACura RL makes more than NSX on wat is basically Da same engine

2. BRing da COst down so it can be competive.......





80gs is alot but the car can handle looks good as hell and although ive never driven it supposly there isnt much close to it.....280 hp could be higher but you have to figure in the weight of the car...along with torque...suspension and someother factors...Honda reconizes the problem with "low" hp and for the redesign in 2004 it is rumored that they will be pushing well over 300 and possibily 400 or more......the have pledged to stay close to 100 hp per litter proving that engine develpment and moving the industry standards higher are very important to them.....So if they have a 350 Hp NSX that weighs about the same OR LESS and costs the same handles even better then would you think that it was worth buying......The NSX doesnt need all of this stuff cause its target buyers are happythe way it is.....but it is people like you that say that its a horrible value that there changing things for....Honda does after all want to sell alot of cars....more cars equals more profits even though the NSX is just a test bed and they prob will never turn a profit on it...... that brings me to another point.....anyone that owns a Vtec civic integra S2000 of anyother honda for that matter cant say one bad thing about the NSX for the fact that with out it they prob never would have that availible in there car......so this next NSX who knows what it will give the other cars in the lineup if the NSX is pushing 400 hp then that opens up alot of range in the honda line up S2000 (if its still around) will likely get a jump in Hp to around 300 hp....there will deff be Type R civics and RSX along with the possibilty of a Type R Accord........And expect the Type R's to get more power too 250 possibile for the RSX......Honda might not jump all over this current Hp race but there is no way that they can ignore it all together......All you care about is the over all Hp of a car well it looks like your getting wish........just wish that people like you would learn to drive a car like it was meant to be and be able to enjoy every breath taking minute of it and not just complain to your boys that it "only has 280 hp" in my opion i dont think that you could or would ever deserve to own or even drive a NSX......... go by your corvette and when i pass you In my soon to be NSX with my finger out the targa top you will know its me.
ryan

there are some ppl including me that are amazed by the engineering and technology behind the NSX. its exotic to me... btw Horsepower isn't everything

The only thing the NSX doesn't have is Horse Power.

But it makes up for it with the reduced weight and structural rigidity.

Big reason the NSX cost as much as it does is b/c of its body and the motor. I read this somewere on day and had a discussion about it once.

The NSX is a great car, but i will agree that it is overpriced. 3.2l v6 with 290hp rwd with mid engine placement is great and it also has an extremely light body, but 80k or whatever is too much. Honda knows well that they could sell the NSX for much cheaper, but they jack up prices just because they can. I was reading that the NSX has extremely low production numbers, and that is because this car is not worth as much as it costs. I think that the NSX should be sold at a lower price, like $60k-70k, but that is just my opinion.

Well jeelanim, I agree with your prices too. Im thinking $55,000- $65,000

They should also use a better engine, maybe a j35 twin turbo. That would be cool:D

Yep...if it had about 100 More Horses it would be awsome :D

Dat was all I was saying MORE POWER!!! I agree the car is light and has exotic styling, but the car needs more power to go with that ( for dat price)

Yup. I would rather get an r34 skyline gtr improted over buying an nsx any day of the week, but the nsx is a great car

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I think i would rather have a GT-R myself then pay $80,000 for a NSX. Ok way too many flashes. :)

But they don't have GT-Rs on this side of the Americas, do they?

I have never seen one were i live or on this side.

I've heard of people getting them, but I don't know how they do it.:confused:

ive seen a few skyline gtr's in irvine, Ca .. alot of people out there at the college are driving around in them.. they have an american conversion kit i believe, and the kit switches the steering wheel and and stick and clutch pedal and gas pedal and all that shit to the left hand side of the car. Its really a nice car:flash:

I have only seen a few ever. once was in South Carolina in the resturant we were eating at. :) Not sure who drove it though.

But do they import it or what?
I mean, I don't think you can go into a Nissan dealer in the States, or even Canada for that matter; and request a Skyline.

I think that they are imported. Some how you have to connect with the dealership and work out the arrangements. See i have never seen a skyline at all in person. So the people who probably own them live in the southern part of the US. As far as the NSX goes. I have seen new NSX's in a new cars Dealership that just sells only Acura and some other American made applications.

Originally posted by Scott 02
I think that they are imported. Some how you have to connect with the dealership and work out the arrangements. See i have never seen a skyline at all in person. So the people who probably own them live in the southern part of the US. As far as the NSX goes. I have seen new NSX's in a new cars Dealership that just sells only Acura and some other American made applications.

I know for sure Acura has a rebadged Honda NSX; but comes available in Targa as well as coupe.

I think it's another company importing the Skylines though; although, I'd love to go into a Nissan dealership & place an order for a Skyline:D

For 80k I would rather have a used Porsche 911 Twin Turbo that'll smoke pretty much anything. IMHO. That's my ultimate dream car too by the way, so I guess I'm just partial. :D

Originally posted by 01WS6_4_ME
For 80k I would rather have a used Porsche 911 Twin Turbo that'll smoke pretty much anything.:D

I agree. Actually, there are a lot of other cars I would buy for $80k. The NSX is a $50k car, if that. The funny thing is, there is one in my town, and there is NO nice cars in my town. I mean NONE, zip, 0. There is about 2 vipers and 5 Vettes. Anyway, the NSX is red and it is an older one, nicer than the new ones in my oppinion. I was shocked when I saw it, but a couple of my friends know the owner.

Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN
Anyway, the NSX is red and it is an older one, nicer than the new ones in my oppinion.

I think so too...for some reason, the pop-up lights and the front fascia look better on the 1st-gen unmodeled NSX to me.

Hey SuperCarMan,

The beauty of the NSX is its efficiency. Six cylinders no turbo. Of course I havn't driven Porsches too much but my NSX is an amazingly low maintenance easy to drive car.

I think I paid 88k in '98. hmmm

I also like the fact that the NSX is much less common than the Porsche.

Originally posted by Tony_Ensemble
I also like the fact that the NSX is much less common than the Porsche. I'll see that and raise it. Here in So Cal, I must see a dozen Porsches everyday; triple that if I actually go somewhere.

NSXs are much rarer, and are much cooler for it.

Plus you cant tell a 60k Porsche from a 160k Porsche?

Here is my Acura

Originally posted by Tony_Ensemble
Plus you cant tell a 60k Porsche from a 160k Porsche?LOL, yeah, but they all go the same speed as me while we sit in traffic. :o
Originally posted by Tony_Ensemble
Here is my Acura Nice. :sun: Next time I'm in Texas, I'll keep an eye out for it. ;) :p

If you look at his acura... would you see it as a $80,000 car or $45,000. My point is they are way too expensive and if i were going to spend that kind of money it would at least be on a new 500HP Viper :)

Originally posted by Scott 02
My point is they are way too expensive Your point is unsupported other than, "I read this somewere on day and had a discussion about it once."

Market value determines price. If no one wanted to buy an NSX for $88,000, then Honda wouldn't sell any for $88,000. Apparently, they're worth it to someone, just not you. The world has lots of people who are not like you. Surprise!

No the reason these are being sold for so much is because Acura can. And like I have said once. The body of this automobile makes a huge chunk of the price. Thats fact. If you gan back up your statement alot better I might change my mind. I just don't think its worth it, and half of the people who contributed to this thread feel the same way I do. Jay, would you spend $88,000 for that or would you rather spend $75,000 for a Viper? I guess thats a tougher decision than I thought it would be. A friends Dodge Stealth R/T makes 320HP and would probably kill the NSX....maybe not, but he bought his 300+ HP car for $14,000. Im not going to get into the Stealth b/c I would be getting off topic. I need to be convinced that this car is worth $88,000-$100,000. Alright, thats enough for now....

Originally posted by Scott 02
No the reason these are being sold for so much is because Acura can. And like I have said once. The body of this automobile makes a huge chunk of the price. Thats fact.Regardless of materials and labor needed to produce a car, if no one is willing to pay $88,000 for it, then none will be sold for $88,000, and none will be sold at all until the price is lower than $88,000. That's economics.

Yet, Honda is able to sell them for $88,000. (Granted, not very quickly. But they don't make them very quickly, either.) Therefore, the car must be worth $88,000 to someone.

I don't believe anyone spending $88,000 on an NSX doesn't realize that there are other cars available for other prices that offer other levels of performance, style, safety, reliability, etc. In fact, I'm sure most NSX buyers are well aware. And then they buy an NSX anyway, so there must be something there. Whether it's something tangible, or something I could explain, or something one person gets out of the car that another doesn't... There's something that makes people choose the NSX over it's competition.

There's a very important difference between the statements "The NSX is not worth $88,000." and "The NSX is not worth $88,000 to me."

How many people actually have one of these cars. I have only seen one in my life. I guess the price acura/honda has on the car sets it apart from the rest. Maybe its insurance reasons or the one i always here is its looks. I agree this car has great looks.

There's a very important difference between the statements "The NSX is not worth $88,000." and "The NSX is not worth $88,000 to me."

I've understood my own quote from the very beginning.

Originally posted by Scott 02
I've understood my own quote from the very beginning. The point of communication is not to understand yourself, but to be understood by others. ;)

And since you asked, yes I would take an NSX over a Viper. But that's me. :right:

The fact that you see so many Prosches on the road means that there are a lot more people in the world willing to dish out for a Porsche than a NSX. I think my car is number 77 from 1998. I dont remember how any they built but not too many. I'm not into American muscle, or at least was not into it in 97 when I bought the NSX. So my options were more limited: BMW M5, Porsche 911. I'm looking for the uncommon so I was drawn to the NSX. For lots of people who like the NSX they would say its the car that does nothing the best but does absolutely nothing wrong. Usually people want a car with an extreme. Like the fastest or the quickest or the best handling. The NSX is an all around consitent performer. Master of nothing. A funny reason to buy a car. But thats what I like about it. Still, i'm in the minority. But thats also what I like.

It's a beauty that will last forever (I hope).

Originally posted by WickedMethod
Who thinks da NSX is 2 expensive for it performance???

290 hp for $80,000 dat just crazy on a V6 too....... Honda can do better.......... U can Buy 2 vets for dat price with 400 Hp..... OR almost 3 S2000 wich only comes with about 40 hp less than da NSX.... and u could another $4,000 dollars to put an supercharger on da S2000 and you'll have more than enough power to take on an NSX..........FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICEHonda should be getting about 350 form dat engine.... THey DOnt NEed a V8 .......... Dat's just a selling scam so people would buy it...........


I think Honda has 2 options:
1. MORE HORSEPOWER....LOTS OF IT....I think Da ACura RL makes more than NSX on wat is basically Da same engine

2. BRing da COst down so it can be competive.......

dont wanna know what u think of a skyline gtr... haha

Tony man, that was touching, lol jk. But definitely couldnt have been worded better.

Thanks C32! Feel free to use it any time you like. ;)

I saw one last night at Boston Park Plaza. I was like wtf is that doin here in the winter where we just had a snow storm! i saw the owner though and asked him for a spin! It was silver. I took some photos though. I will post them asa i get it developed

well yet another post for my 2 cents..

umm.. well yeah i agree it's got a high price tag.. but then again anything does to a colleg student.. lol
anyway ... even i know people don't buy cars cause they go faster.. if they did then everyone would own a mclauren.. but it ain't like that ..
you buy an nsx to have an nsx.. just like the s2k..
uumm... and to answer your comment way back .. yes there are millions of rich dudes who buy them just for the hell of it..
lol..

The NSX is NOT too expensive. If it was, then the price would have a margin within it on pointless things. With the current price, Honda/Acura do not make a profit, so the price is not expensive (and like I said, the cost is not covered). But if Acura/Honda do not make a profit, then why sell the NSX? Especially when people prefer Porsche and Ferrari.

However, the problem is that there is no bang for your buck. It is this factor, alongside others, that sells so many cars these days.

At the moment, there is a comparison between NSX, 911 and 360 - and guess what car is winning (well last time I checked) - well it is easier to say that NSX is losing. And why? Because of performance. When you pay for the price you are paying, you expect performance, especially when for the same price you can get a quicker, and luxurious - a better stock car, which is ten times better than an NSX. Thats what always bothers people, and nothing can make up for this.

PS I didn't have the time to structure my argument properly :D

I fully agree with the creator of this post, i do believe that the NSX is way over priced or at least has gotten over priced reciently. I have heard people saying that the expensiveness is from it's rarity. I somewhat agree with that. But when you are going to say you are paying for about 70% for rarity and only about 30% for any extravagant performance, i think that is just feeding Acura excuses. And if rarity is that much of an issue on the NSX a car that gets so much hype, this price tag for rarity should only be risen when production of this car has ceased. It is unfair to say we are raising the price of the car since they are rare, EVEN though, we are still producing them. I think alot of the NSX is looks. And of course it could prob beat a supra stock, i would expect a 80thousand dollar car to beat one around 50k. Rarity should not be the main factor in determining price. Performance should be. Everyone has their preferences, as a matter of fact, i love the looks of this car myself. But the truth is, when the s2000 has a better power to rate ratio and only 50 less hp which will soon be only 30 less when the power gets a 260 bump on only a 4 cylinder! People should expect more from this car. Another thing, you know the new Nissan 350z HAS ONLY 3 LESS horsepower STOCK (V6)!!! than the NSX and with a bit better gas mileage. Obviously little heavier but no kidding, it's 52,000 dollars less. This is just my take, i respect anyone who loves and enjoys this car and encourage them to continue doing so. but that is just my take on the NSX and it's value.

As of right now, most invoice prices on NSXs are between 70k and 80k. They depreciate like crazy tho. You can find one with 60k miles on ebay for less than 40k. For that price I would go with the M5 since its incredibly rare.

Originally posted by Fliquer
As of right now, most invoice prices on NSXs are between 70k and 80k. They depreciate like crazy tho. You can find one with 60k miles on ebay for less than 40k. For that price I would go with the M5 since its incredibly rare.

I do agree, i looked on ebay too and found some for suprisingly reasonable prices, it's just finding any with anywere less than 100,000 miles is really difficult

seriously dude.....
NSX is not crap... and what u said is bull-shit about how if u "mod" other cars u can beat a "Stock" NSX.... well that is a crock of shit! if u want to compare two cars... then compare them while they are stock cars... not with "mods"....
Also, look at JGTC for example.... there is the ARTA NSX that is "god"...
how come i dun see any ITR or civic in JGTC??

there is a fuckin reason!!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by endlesskev86
seriously dude.....
NSX is not crap... and what u said is bull-shit about how if u "mod" other cars u can beat a "Stock" NSX.... well that is a crock of shit! if u want to compare two cars... then compare them while they are stock cars... not with "mods"....
Also, look at JGTC for example.... there is the ARTA NSX that is "god"...
how come i dun see any ITR or civic in JGTC??

there is a fuckin reason!!:rolleyes:

... Oh, male PMS. And you obviously don't know what Supras and Skylines or and even 300zx's which are way less are capable of. You could get them to over a 1000hp and watch them tear up any NSX, even though u dont need one to be 1000 hp to do so. (With around 900hp you would be running mid to low 9's without nitro, while the NSX is running 14's) And what is even the point of comparing them stock for stock when the NSX is many thousands more. If you put the amount of money into a supra that would amount to the price tag of an NSX you would def. have a much faster car than any NSX period. First of all, unlike alot of supercars, the NSX doesn't even use all wheel to rear wheel drive transfer for better starts. And who said the NSX was crap? i don't remember saying that. I think it's an awsome looker, but should be expected to perform better with an 88k price tag, 290hp, R U KIDDING ME. The fact that it is a V6 doesn't bother me in the least, but no turbos, superchargers, nothing, just 290 horsepower on a 3.2 liter honda engine for 88k. Oh, yea, and your girlfriends' fine

Even Evos, when spent the amount of cash for the base car and mods, can beat an NSX. Honestly, the NSX is a 14 second car. I've seen Pulsars with mods beat that (at the 40k price for car and mods). That is just ridiculous. Honestly, the NSX needs a replacement - with steel body, more power (main improvements). Why pay so much on a car that doesn't offer as good an experience as other cars? Answer that, and I'd understand why an NSX is worth it. NSXs cant even be modded either - no room for more boost, turbocharging is expensive and no room for cooling (ancillaries, intercooler), and the realistic limit of the car when modified is 500hp while not spending a whole load of cash (lol, spend a lot on the car, and then a lot on mods).

The major limiting factor for the NSX was the gentlemens agreement. Honda wanted a 400hp car, but they could not have that because of that sad law, so Honda resorted to weight saving techniques - aluminium body, etc, to meet the performance levels of the 911 and 360. But that just increased the price with little benefits. Flawful thinking from the Product Design boffs at Honda. This image of the NSX being a rip-off, which it is, is going to stick to Honda/Acura.

If a company is going to make a supercar, or any car for that matter in fact, then they should make it properly and by tackling major compromises such as the 280hp law if it affects businesses, and they should concentrate on what will win the customer, and not on trying to meet performance in unjustified ways that are an obvious risk not worth taking (taking risks is worth it, as long as it is what the customer/market would want).

I can see it possible for Honda to make a new NSX that will be what the customer wants. It is a possible, feasible goal for Honda.

the thing about modding the NSX is this... people who spend that much on the car, are a little wary of changing its internals and this and that. God forbid you would screw something up. So modding isn't as much of an issue with the NSX as the supra because i think they would be more willing to take chances with modding a cheaper supra personally.

Agreed, pontiac.

If an when there is an NSX replacement, I am sure eventually Honda will up the power, with disregard to the stupid (and either way you look at it, it is stupid ) 280hp limit. Honda must realise that to improve a car's acceleration, and only acceleration, weight saving will only go so far. Honda will soon realise that they have stripped out so much of luxuries that they (Honda) will have only two options (any method will only go too far):

1) Up the power, as everything that makes up weight is a requirement, and this has to be done to get sales and be a market competitor (it is unfair for the NSX to be "rubbish" because of useless regulations. Once this is done, some luxuries may become an option to have (to include, as with the extra weight of this and extra power, performance may still be good).

2) Discontinue the NSX. Not much reasoning required for this...

Honda have done everything for improvements, apart from power.

yep, Honda has the technology, just needs more power to make more of an appearance. Plus, for all the weight saving techniques like getting rid of power steering and etc... The car is still only a bit lighter than 3000 pounds. If supra comes back with a v8 or v12 while being something around the price range of the NSX in a few years... which has been speculated, the NSX will be seen as little more than just a beautiful, rare car.

I own one. Yes they're expensive, but you can save money by buying an older one. I own a '91. I love it, but would also love to put a supercharger on it to get it up close to the 400hp mark. I'd put a supercharger on in a heartbeat at the same cost as the Integra ($3000), but comp tech whats three time that for basically the same thing.

Originally posted by puker_33
I own one. Yes they're expensive, but you can save money by buying an older one. I own a '91. I love it, but would also love to put a supercharger on it to get it up close to the 400hp mark. I'd put a supercharger on in a heartbeat at the same cost as the Integra ($3000), but comp tech whats three time that for basically the same thing.

I usually accept people's honesty... but in this case, im gona have to say "sure ya do." Of course i always stand corrected with the proper proof and all, but the fact that this supercar wasn't even mentioned in your profile while the integra was, i have to really wonder about if you are telling the truth.

Originally posted by pontiactrac


I usually accept people's honesty... but in this case, im gona have to say "sure ya do." Of course i always stand corrected with the proper proof and all, but the fact that this supercar wasn't even mentioned in your profile while the integra was, i have to really wonder about if you are telling the truth.




Actually your right i don't own one but that was my dad who got on under my name and started talking...if you would like me to prove it i could post some pics of it as soon as we get it out of storage for the winter untill then i don't care if you believe us or not because we do have one.

I dont know what any of you guys think about the NSX's LOOKS.....Some people prefer looks over performance (dont go saying they're idiots either), and the NSX definitely has $40 worth of looks alone. IMO, it looks better than anything that ever came out of Japan OR Germany.

Ok, I try staying away from arguements like this, but I have to make a few coments. I don't understand the arguement that the NSX is not worth what it cost. It's really all about what a buyer is willing to pay for a product that determines its price right? I think alot of people form opinions about the NSX without having driven one. I have owned 2 M3's, I've driven Vette's, TT Supra's, Turbo Civic's/Integs, etc. But the NSX is in my opinion a funner car to drive. It's fast, handles like it's on rails, gets lots of attention, its well built, and its a HONDA. It's an exotic car that can be driven everyday. Supra's are a dime a dozen as well as Vette's. No flames please, I have lots of respect for these cars. But those cars are just not for me.
I think it's the same with bikes. Why spend $16 grand on a Ducati when you can get a R1 or GXSR1000 for around $10 that would spank it in the zero to 60? I guess you would have to ride one before you can understand. :flash:
Again, these are just my opinions :)
Regards
Z

Originally posted by puker_33





Actually your right i don't own one but that was my dad who got on under my name and started talking...if you would like me to prove it i could post some pics of it as soon as we get it out of storage for the winter untill then i don't care if you believe us or not because we do have one.

Alright, since your dad wrote the post, you can't blame me for calling that a bit missleading then, since he wrote it under your name. I believe you now that it was your dad, no need for the proof.

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
Ok, I try staying away from arguements like this, but I have to make a few coments. I don't understand the arguement that the NSX is not worth what it cost. It's really all about what a buyer is willing to pay for a product that determines its price right? I think alot of people form opinions about the NSX without having driven one. I have owned 2 M3's, I've driven Vette's, TT Supra's, Turbo Civic's/Integs, etc. But the NSX is in my opinion a funner car to drive. It's fast, handles like it's on rails, gets lots of attention, its well built, and its a HONDA. It's an exotic car that can be driven everyday. Supra's are a dime a dozen as well as Vette's. No flames please, I have lots of respect for these cars. But those cars are just not for me.
I think it's the same with bikes. Why spend $16 grand on a Ducati when you can get a R1 or GXSR1000 for around $10 that would spank it in the zero to 60? I guess you would have to ride one before you can understand. :flash:
Again, these are just my opinions :)
Regards
Z

I understand that, and if you want to spend ur money on it, i perfectly respect that. We are just talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much u get out of it. And as far as it being able to be driven everyday, how do you figure that this is more true than other supercars? It gets the mileage about the same as a large V8, and costs around 800 for an oil change, then there are possible part breakage that are expensive as hell to repair, then there is the issue of insurance. I respect if your opinions perfectly, just giving my 02 on the car, i just think the price is a bit steep, im not busting on u or anything, at least you were polite about your opinion. Lots of people would call non NSX fans idiots and crap like that. But hey it's all good.

Originally posted by pontiactrac


Alright, since your dad wrote the post, you can't blame me for calling that a bit missleading then, since he wrote it under your name. I believe you now that it was your dad, no need for the proof.


I'll still post some pics soon just cuz its such a sweet lookin car.

Ok, some of these things that you have mentioned are not true, but commen misconceptions. Owning this car, let me tell you my experiences. You say you are talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much you get out of it right? I honestly believe I get alot out of my car. It's very rare, exotic and well built. I get thumbs up everywhere I go. Chicks ask for rides, school buses with kids hangout the window to look at my car, etc etc etc. My M3 didn't get this much attention. Even when I go out in my friends Porsche, we don't get this much attention.
Ok, now lets talk about driving it everyday. It is not true it gets about the same gas mileage as a large V8. I have owned a Mustang in the past, now that was a gas guzzler and it was always breaking down. I replaced almost everything in that car except for the engine(with was very strong).
$800 for an oil change!! :eek: I have no idea where you got that from. The NSX oil change cost as much as a Civic. You can buy OEM NSX oil filters from www.daliracing.com 10 @ $100, which is $10 bucks each. Add some Mobil1 synthetic oil and your good to go. My first oil change was at Jiffy Lube since I hadn't ordered the NSX oil filters yet. It was about $30 - $35 I believe.
About parts breaking down, it's not true that they are expensive. Some of the parts are about what other Acura Parts cost. But then there are some parts that cost an arm and a leg. But it's a Honda, I've never had a problem with this car, and neither did the previous owner who had kept all the records.
Ok, now insurance. I too thought I was gonna get raped on this, but I'm very happy with the price I got. I'm 22 single male, with one theft and one speeding ticket on my record. I pay $170 a month for full coverage, $500 ded. on both the NSX and my Integra. This is throu Allstate and I thinks its a great rate!! :alien2:
What other car is exotic and rare, that is like the NSX? You can buy a Viper(awesome car, maddddd power), but its a gas guzzler, not comfortable(from what I've heard), and expensive to maintane. Then there's the Vette C5(awesome car, I almost bought one) but those are everywhere. Plus they are not exotic and I hear they have lots of problems(no flames, just what I've heard from friends who have owned C4's/C5's). Then there are Porcshe's. Not exotic, but the TT is a beast. My friend works at a Porsche dealership and says they are crap. He see's them in the shop all the time. I would love to have one thou, but it's out of my range, way out of my range.
Trust me, I have alot of respect for all cars. We are all alike in that we love cars, or our cars right? :flash:
But I thought I would share some of my personal experiences. And from my experiences I've learned that this car is worth every penny. Plus lifes short, fuk it. :devil:
peace
Z


Originally posted by pontiactrac


I understand that, and if you want to spend ur money on it, i perfectly respect that. We are just talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much u get out of it. And as far as it being able to be driven everyday, how do you figure that this is more true than other supercars? It gets the mileage about the same as a large V8, and costs around 800 for an oil change, then there are possible part breakage that are expensive as hell to repair, then there is the issue of insurance. I respect if your opinions perfectly, just giving my 02 on the car, i just think the price is a bit steep, im not busting on u or anything, at least you were polite about your opinion. Lots of people would call non NSX fans idiots and crap like that. But hey it's all good.

Hey, where can I upload my pics to share them? Does Imagestation work to post pics?
Thanks
Z :bandit:

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
Ok, some of these things that you have mentioned are not true, but commen misconceptions. Owning this car, let me tell you my experiences. You say you are talking about it's value in terms of what it costs and how much you get out of it right? I honestly believe I get alot out of my car. It's very rare, exotic and well built. I get thumbs up everywhere I go. Chicks ask for rides, school buses with kids hangout the window to look at my car, etc etc etc. My M3 didn't get this much attention. Even when I go out in my friends Porsche, we don't get this much attention.
Ok, now lets talk about driving it everyday. It is not true it gets about the same gas mileage as a large V8. I have owned a Mustang in the past, now that was a gas guzzler and it was always breaking down. I replaced almost everything in that car except for the engine(with was very strong).
$800 for an oil change!! :eek: I have no idea where you got that from. The NSX oil change cost as much as a Civic. You can buy OEM NSX oil filters from www.daliracing.com 10 @ $100, which is $10 bucks each. Add some Mobil1 synthetic oil and your good to go. My first oil change was at Jiffy Lube since I hadn't ordered the NSX oil filters yet. It was about $30 - $35 I believe.
About parts breaking down, it's not true that they are expensive. Some of the parts are about what other Acura Parts cost. But then there are some parts that cost an arm and a leg. But it's a Honda, I've never had a problem with this car, and neither did the previous owner who had kept all the records.
Ok, now insurance. I too thought I was gonna get raped on this, but I'm very happy with the price I got. I'm 22 single male, with one theft and one speeding ticket on my record. I pay $170 a month for full coverage, $500 ded. on both the NSX and my Integra. This is throu Allstate and I thinks its a great rate!! :alien2:
What other car is exotic and rare, that is like the NSX? You can buy a Viper(awesome car, maddddd power), but its a gas guzzler, not comfortable(from what I've heard), and expensive to maintane. Then there's the Vette C5(awesome car, I almost bought one) but those are everywhere. Plus they are not exotic and I hear they have lots of problems(no flames, just what I've heard from friends who have owned C4's/C5's). Then there are Porcshe's. Not exotic, but the TT is a beast. My friend works at a Porsche dealership and says they are crap. He see's them in the shop all the time. I would love to have one thou, but it's out of my range, way out of my range.
Trust me, I have alot of respect for all cars. We are all alike in that we love cars, or our cars right? :flash:
But I thought I would share some of my personal experiences. And from my experiences I've learned that this car is worth every penny. Plus lifes short, fuk it. :devil:
peace
Z




Ok, let me start out by saying this... The fact that you get lots of looks at your car doesn't suprise me at all, it's 88thousand and it should get me looks. nor does it convince me that a car should be 88grand on it's looks which arn't even that incredible for the price. Im not saying it isn't good looking, it's nice as shit, but that is about it. No kidding you get looks from it, it's exotic, and kids think it's cool cause they never seen it before. Lots of cars that are way cheaper can get you looks anyways. My friend has a $6,000 300zx that get's more looks than a playmate walking down the street naked, especially when the T-tops are down. That doesn't add value, it's all surface to consider looks as the most important thing in value. And as for the gas mileage, a mustang is a horrible example, they always have problems, and get some of the worse fuel economy's in any v8's. For only 290 hp, i would expect somewhat better gas mileage on a V6 honda engine with variable valve timing. The NSX's mileage is nothing to brag about. And as far as the insurance, lets put it this way... you got really lucky. Oil change that i mentioned before, exotic cars usually have veeeery expensive oil changes, like ferrari, and lambos, and many dual turbocharged exotics, so i have be a bit skeptical on how high proformance the engine is then. Parts breaking, if you had never broken one, you cannot really say that they cost as much as any other acura does because i don't know how many dealerships carry NSX parts since they almost never are around to come into the shops. I know the parts are expensive since way cheeper cars like the 3,000GT and even 300zx that i mentioned before are extremely expensive to replace parts on, and they are no where near the level of rarity of the NSX. This conversation has turned into something like the NSX being an exotic and being able to be driven for everyday use. Why is that even an issue. If i had an exotic, i wouldn't even drive it everday to keep mileage down, id want to savor the great feeling of cruising in it that would be taken away from everyday driving to work. And if it wasn't the most confortable ride in the world, would i care...? I'm driving an NSX for crying out loud, who cares about comfort, cause all im thinking about is how good i look in it anyway. Just my pointers that's all.

Well, that's the North American culture; In Germany, they drive the sh!t out of their Carerras; they take them through everything.

Originally posted by NSX
Well, that's the North American culture; In Germany, they drive the sh!t out of their Carerras; they take them through everything.

My point exactly, do they do that on the drive to work, heck no. On a sunday spin maybe

please upload your pics here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/upload

:D and then share! :D

PONTICTRAC, hope you understand, I'm not trying to step on your toes here, just sharing my opinions. :cool: I respect everyones opinion as long as they are respectful of others. If someone feels like the new Dodge Neon RT (? If thats what it is, I forget) Is better then a NSX because it's a better bang for your buck, well, that's a fair opinion. Opinions opinions opinion......everyones got one!! :D

Also, I'll post some pics of my car when I get home using a new topic....
Regards
Z



Ok, so I'm bored here at work, so I'm going to post some interesting stuff that I found while surfing the web. (www.nsxhelp.com)

http://www.nsxhelp.com/Books/blackbook/tidh07.jpe

:) Found this interesting:
What Reliability Surveys Has The NSX Appeared In?
J.D. Power & Associates 5-year Dependability Study (SM) (1996)
[ This article taken from the JD Power web site at www.jdpower.com/jdpower/releases/60319car.html ]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 19, 1996

AGOURA HILLS, CALIFORNIA--The Lexus LS 400 and Acura NSX tie as the most dependable car at five years of ownership according to the 1996 J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study. On the light truck side, the Toyota Pickup and the Dodge Ram 50 also tie for top honors. This dependability was measured from surveys returned by more than 33,000 car and truck owners who rated their 1991 vehicles across 89 problem categories based on their last 12 months of ownership.

The following is a list, in rank order, of the top cars after five years of ownership as reported in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study:

Acura NSX
*Lexus LS 400
*Infiniti Q45
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series
Mercedes-Benz 300SL/500SL
Cadillac Eldorado
Toyota Cressida
Buick Century
Cadillac Brougham
Porsche 911

*Tied for Best Model in Vehicle Dependability

The following light truck models head each of the six segments featured in the study: Truck Segment 1991 Model-Year Vehicle

Compact Pickup Dodge Ram 50 *
Toyota Pickup *
Full-Size Pickup: Chevrolet C/K Pickup
Compact Sport Utility: Nissan Pathfinder
Full-Size Van: Chevrolet Van/Sport Van
Compact Van: Toyota Previa
Full-Size Sport Utility: Toyota Land Cruiser

(* Tied for Best Truck Model in Vehicle Dependability)

With new vehicle prices at a premium and an influx of cars coming off lease, used cars are more attractive than ever. After five years of ownership, 1991 model-year vehicles are prime candidates for this used car market.

One of the main questions that plague a new-car buyer is whether their car will hold up over the long run-which cars will still be in good condition by the time they pay off their loan? "If you're looking at vehicles that are four to five years old, the Vehicle Dependability Study is an excellent gauge to determine which vehicles will have the least problems. This study is particularly valuable because it measures the number of problems experienced by original owners," commented Bill Wallis, Senior Account Executive at J.D. Power and Associates.

Obviously the current manufacturer focus on vehicle options, and ABS in particular, is a worthy pursuit. The Vehicle
Dependability Study reveals that close to 60 percent of consumers with ABS said they want their next vehicle equipped with this system. The implication is that safety continues to be a key consumer issue. Despite concern in the industry that anti-lock brakes have more problems than traditional brakes, car owners of vehicles with ABS are more satisfied with their brakes and report fewer brake problems than those without. (Of the top ten car models, all, with the exception of the Buick Century came equipped with ABS.)

The focus of the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study is the past-year problem experience of owners who bought a new personal-use vehicle during the 1991 model year and have retained it. The study looks at durability of specific items, incidence of warranty work, rating of work performed and the amount spent in the past year on non-routine repairs. In addition, the study addresses a wide variety of manufacturer and dealer issues as well as information of value to manufacturer engineers and product designers.

J.D. Power and Associates is an international market research firm specializing in measuring and analyzing consumer opinion and behavior. The firm conducts syndicated and proprietary studies in the telecommunications, automotive, airline, office products, and financial services industries. Headquartered in Agoura Hills, California, the company also has offices in Torrance, California; Detroit, Michigan; Westport, Connecticut; Toronto, Canada; London, England; and Tokyo, Japan. Additional information about J.D. Power and Associates can be accessed through the World Wide Web at http://www.jdpower.com. Media E-mail contact: john.pepitone@jdpower.com

:) I also think NSX parts are not expensive. I buy all my stuff throu www.asian-auto-parts.com. The guys name is Dave, is gets killer prices on Honda/Acura OEM parts. Just my 2 cents :flash:


Collision Safety
[A/H] The first hard hit NSX that I worked on was hit in the right rear by a Datsun P/U doing about 50 mph. The driver of the NSX was sitting on a city street waiting to get on the freeway onramp. He saw the P/U coming and tried to go to the left around a full size Ford P/U in front of him. The Datsun hit the NSX and pushed it under the Ford. Damage: Right side trunk was gone. Just plastic pieces of phone and CD player. Engine compartment moved about one inch. Engine cover glass: no problem. Right side door: NO PROBLEM, OPEN AND CLOSED PERFECTLY. The front bumper hit the differential of the Ford and bent the leaf spring. The Ford rear bumper hit the "A" pillar on the right side and shattered the front glass. I fixed this car and it is still on the road here at Honda. It is #70. Red Black 5 spd. 65k miles. I also found that if the NSX is put on 4 car stands and if the stands are not exactly the same height and the floor is not very flat then the NSX will rock on 3 stands. This car is very stiff !!


Hope everyone can stomach this:
http://www.nsxhelp.com/faq/ouchies.html


Enjoys....
Z

Originally posted by NSX FoYoAss
PONTICTRAC, hope you understand, I'm not trying to step on your toes here, just sharing my opinions. :cool: I respect everyones opinion as long as they are respectful of others. If someone feels like the new Dodge Neon RT (? If thats what it is, I forget) Is better then a NSX because it's a better bang for your buck, well, that's a fair opinion. Opinions opinions opinion......everyones got one!! :D

Also, I'll post some pics of my car when I get home using a new topic....
Regards
Z



Ok, so I'm bored here at work, so I'm going to post some interesting stuff that I found while surfing the web. (www.nsxhelp.com)

http://www.nsxhelp.com/Books/blackbook/tidh07.jpe

:) Found this interesting:
What Reliability Surveys Has The NSX Appeared In?
J.D. Power & Associates 5-year Dependability Study (SM) (1996)
[ This article taken from the JD Power web site at www.jdpower.com/jdpower/releases/60319car.html ]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 19, 1996

AGOURA HILLS, CALIFORNIA--The Lexus LS 400 and Acura NSX tie as the most dependable car at five years of ownership according to the 1996 J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study. On the light truck side, the Toyota Pickup and the Dodge Ram 50 also tie for top honors. This dependability was measured from surveys returned by more than 33,000 car and truck owners who rated their 1991 vehicles across 89 problem categories based on their last 12 months of ownership.

The following is a list, in rank order, of the top cars after five years of ownership as reported in the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study:

Acura NSX
*Lexus LS 400
*Infiniti Q45
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series
Mercedes-Benz 300SL/500SL
Cadillac Eldorado
Toyota Cressida
Buick Century
Cadillac Brougham
Porsche 911

*Tied for Best Model in Vehicle Dependability

The following light truck models head each of the six segments featured in the study: Truck Segment 1991 Model-Year Vehicle

Compact Pickup Dodge Ram 50 *
Toyota Pickup *
Full-Size Pickup: Chevrolet C/K Pickup
Compact Sport Utility: Nissan Pathfinder
Full-Size Van: Chevrolet Van/Sport Van
Compact Van: Toyota Previa
Full-Size Sport Utility: Toyota Land Cruiser

(* Tied for Best Truck Model in Vehicle Dependability)

With new vehicle prices at a premium and an influx of cars coming off lease, used cars are more attractive than ever. After five years of ownership, 1991 model-year vehicles are prime candidates for this used car market.

One of the main questions that plague a new-car buyer is whether their car will hold up over the long run-which cars will still be in good condition by the time they pay off their loan? "If you're looking at vehicles that are four to five years old, the Vehicle Dependability Study is an excellent gauge to determine which vehicles will have the least problems. This study is particularly valuable because it measures the number of problems experienced by original owners," commented Bill Wallis, Senior Account Executive at J.D. Power and Associates.

Obviously the current manufacturer focus on vehicle options, and ABS in particular, is a worthy pursuit. The Vehicle
Dependability Study reveals that close to 60 percent of consumers with ABS said they want their next vehicle equipped with this system. The implication is that safety continues to be a key consumer issue. Despite concern in the industry that anti-lock brakes have more problems than traditional brakes, car owners of vehicles with ABS are more satisfied with their brakes and report fewer brake problems than those without. (Of the top ten car models, all, with the exception of the Buick Century came equipped with ABS.)

The focus of the J.D. Power and Associates Vehicle Dependability Study is the past-year problem experience of owners who bought a new personal-use vehicle during the 1991 model year and have retained it. The study looks at durability of specific items, incidence of warranty work, rating of work performed and the amount spent in the past year on non-routine repairs. In addition, the study addresses a wide variety of manufacturer and dealer issues as well as information of value to manufacturer engineers and product designers.

J.D. Power and Associates is an international market research firm specializing in measuring and analyzing consumer opinion and behavior. The firm conducts syndicated and proprietary studies in the telecommunications, automotive, airline, office products, and financial services industries. Headquartered in Agoura Hills, California, the company also has offices in Torrance, California; Detroit, Michigan; Westport, Connecticut; Toronto, Canada; London, England; and Tokyo, Japan. Additional information about J.D. Power and Associates can be accessed through the World Wide Web at http://www.jdpower.com. Media E-mail contact: john.pepitone@jdpower.com

:) I also think NSX parts are not expensive. I buy all my stuff throu www.asian-auto-parts.com. The guys name is Dave, is gets killer prices on Honda/Acura OEM parts. Just my 2 cents :flash:


Collision Safety
[A/H] The first hard hit NSX that I worked on was hit in the right rear by a Datsun P/U doing about 50 mph. The driver of the NSX was sitting on a city street waiting to get on the freeway onramp. He saw the P/U coming and tried to go to the left around a full size Ford P/U in front of him. The Datsun hit the NSX and pushed it under the Ford. Damage: Right side trunk was gone. Just plastic pieces of phone and CD player. Engine compartment moved about one inch. Engine cover glass: no problem. Right side door: NO PROBLEM, OPEN AND CLOSED PERFECTLY. The front bumper hit the differential of the Ford and bent the leaf spring. The Ford rear bumper hit the "A" pillar on the right side and shattered the front glass. I fixed this car and it is still on the road here at Honda. It is #70. Red Black 5 spd. 65k miles. I also found that if the NSX is put on 4 car stands and if the stands are not exactly the same height and the floor is not very flat then the NSX will rock on 3 stands. This car is very stiff !!


Hope everyone can stomach this:
http://www.nsxhelp.com/faq/ouchies.html


Enjoys....
Z

Aw man, now you make me feel like an ass, sorry, my reply wasn't against your opinion, it's just some of the stuff i said i strongly believe is true and i respect anyone elses opinions, urs too, i was just saying some things that could make the nsx not an ordinary drivers car really, but im not always right, you own one, you would know more than me, but i am jus basing on what i read/heard/believe.

Who thinks da NSX is 2 expensive for it performance???

290 hp for $80,000 dat just crazy on a V6 too....... Honda can do better.......... U can Buy 2 vets for dat price with 400 Hp..... OR almost 3 S2000 wich only comes with about 40 hp less than da NSX.... and u could another $4,000 dollars to put an supercharger on da S2000 and you'll have more than enough power to take on an NSX..........FOR A FRACTION OF THE PRICEHonda should be getting about 350 form dat engine.... THey DOnt NEed a V8 .......... Dat's just a selling scam so people would buy it...........


I think Honda has 2 options:
1. MORE HORSEPOWER....LOTS OF IT....I think Da ACura RL makes more than NSX on wat is basically Da same engine

2. BRing da COst down so it can be competive.......

Are you on drugs or just plain an idiot?

You are obviously not the NSX's target buyer.

Exactly. :D

OH Really!!! then who is Some stupid rich guy who has nutting else to spend their money except on a car whose styling copies dat of a ferrari??? or whose performance can be beaten by a supped up integra or TT supra ( wich cost about $35 grand less for EXTREMELY better performance) OR some rich guy who SIMPLY doesnt KNOE any BEtter???

$100 says that the NSX target buyer is someone who can spell and use proper grammar. Your post did make me laugh though. :D

I might be a bit older than most of the croud here. I'm 45 and have a NSX. Personally I think that it is just about the right age for the owner of this fine machine. ( OK, Maybe as young as 30 ) The reason that I say that is because At my age, I no longer have to PROVE that I have the fastest car. No, its NOT the fastest, but if you come up against another car without turbo/supercharger you will at least not be embarassed (sp?) by the outcome.....Sure, there are cars that beat the pants off mine, But I look better sitting still than they do. NSXfoyoass (hope I got that right) is right in saying that you could drive the car all the time. It has the reliablity of a Honda. Its greatest faults are clutches ($3500) and tires ($325 each). It EATS tires! The price sticker on the window will tell you that your tires will not last 10,000 miles. This is very true, but nothing but a 911 can corner like it, And its capabilities have even impressed Porsche owners, While driving on the same track. The tires will probably last something more like 6000 miles. If you take care of the fore mentioned and adjust the valves every 25K there is no reason not to get 200K miles out of this car ( Pardon, this is also assuming that you don't push the tach over 8000 RPM's EVER! ) What makes the car worth so much money is that it is hand built, After it is hand built honda takes each one out to a test track built for THIS car and runs the $hit out of it. you will never find an NSX on a showroom floor with less than 40 miles on it. All this said. you still think that you can find a better value? Show me another hand made car built to these specs at a cheaper price.

By the way......I've seen pictures of the skyline, Would anybody be interested in it if it didn't have that monster drivetrain? Outside of that, I don't see the appeal.

^^I agree with you to a point. I tutor a kid named Mickey and his dad drives a 5-Spd 1998 NSX, If I drove that car I wouldnt trying to take it to the track or auto X competitions, I would probably upgrade intake piping with an older C5-R Intake Filter. (You ahve to follow racing to know that the new ones are smaller cause the old piping and filter made too much hp haha) Put a nice wide exaust to the rear and I might race a few ppl on the street. I am 15 eyars old and would take immaculate care of it, I would take it over a built up porsche 944 turbo (951) or a 911.

I agree with you to a point. I tutor a kid named Mickey and his dad drives a 5-Spd 1998 NSX,




Actually if the Car is a '98 it is a 6 speed :o)

...you will never find an NSX on a showroom floor with less than 40 miles on it...

Actually, most NSX's arrive at the dealer with about 12 miles on them. When I was in college I worked for an Acura dealer and the NSX's would arrive with 10-15 miles on them, and never any more than that. Just food for thought. :)

And one last, minute thing...

There isnt a stock Supra turbo from anytime thats going to beat the NSX even in the quarter mile. It really isnt even close. The NSX will usually win by about 2 or more car lengths. And just ask me to back it up. Ill send videos. One: Skyline GT-R R34 vs SupraTT. Supra is owned. #2 Skyline GT-R R34 vs Honda NSX Type-S Zero. GT-R takes a seat as well. Or maybe a web site, check JB cars. Or you can even check an actual GT-R website. Not to down the GT-R, which is an amazing machine... and im rambling. Ive made my point.:rolleyes:


ya back it up haha im not doughting you i just want to see these races!

Actually, most NSX's arrive at the dealer with about 12 miles on them. When I was in college I worked for an Acura dealer and the NSX's would arrive with 10-15 miles on them, and never any more than that. Just food for thought. :)

This is what my dealer told me. My car went into service with 80 miles on it. He told me that was twice the norm, and why that was so.

This thread is close to a year old. I'm going to lock it. (my first one)