I’m on the main road at 1:00 in the afternoon last Saturday and I’ve got my sounds blasting to Ridin (Feat Krazie Bone) and then I see a RZ supra pull up next to my car. we are travelling the legal speed limit at about 60mph

I get a good look at this beast man it looks phat, He has dark black tinted windows he winds down the window and yells something out I couldn’t hear what he said but he’s looking at mine like he’s thinking the same thing, his car was Low, very low and had 2” deep dish mags sitting on very low profile tires to the front and 3” to the black, it had some type of body kit that wasn’t over done and the car was all in black (favourite colour for these cars)

I turn down the music and wind down my mirror when he floors it sounding off his BOV I can even hear his turbo’s spoil hard the thing spins like crazy at 60mph for a sec and then it just takes off up the road dodging through traffic like crazy.

I’m pretty good when it comes to dodging traffic so I follow him and catch up he’s only about 6 car lengths away I dodge through a gap between two family sedans and then left past a Van etc I had my sights set on the supra who is about 3 car lengths in front on the same lane he dodges a very narrow gap to the right lane and I try the same thing not to be stopped buy some stock standard STI who speed up and then slowed back down to the legal speed limit WTF and wouldn’t let me past,

I was stuck in traffic travelling 60mph and the supra was out of site. 5min latter once the traffic freed up The STI try’s to race me, But I shift down to third and leave him in my dust hoping to find the supra, I’m caning it going an average speed of 100mph – 120mph in a 40-60mph zone.

Its 5 min latter and I see him, I come to a slow Once I hit the small town in Bell block I finally catch up to him when he turn’s off into the country side hell yea this is my time now supra man lol I turn off and follow him

I turned the sounds back up and boost past him, yea I did a ricer flyby for the first time, hell I was nervous as hell and I knew this guy was boosting some serious power I boost it redline in first double clutch RPM’s drop to 5500RPM double clutch redline then to 3rd down to 5000rpm look down and shit 120mph granny shift to 4th and my RPM’s drop down to 4000rpm the RPM slowly climes up to 6000rpm I’m nervous as hell mainly cause I don’t know the road (only been down it twice) and it has unpredictable sharp turns and most of it has B road type corners.

I look in my reverse mirror and all I see if a Fucking big front mount with wheels He’s inching closer eye’s back on the road shit a sharp S type corner down to 3rd and power brake RPMs jump to red line I loos a bit of traction on the first corner but I was able to execllerate out ot the second OK holy shit felt like a second to take both corners.

rpms are at about 6000rpm in 3rd red line and then down to 4th coming through a short strait I look back and he’s lost a car length on me hit 6000rpm and then brake too early he jumps feet away from my bumper I shift down to 3rd and try to regain the gap going around two bends he’s still there we must have come out of those bends going 100mph fark down to 4th and he slowly inches closer to my bumper, we are on a strait and he attempts to pass me I shift to 5th 5000rpm 140mph, 6th 160mph 180mph and he inches up to the side of my car slowly passing and then he brakes

I could barely see the end of the road up ahead I look into my reverse mirror and I see him Come to a stop and turns into a property (Probably where he lives) I brake hard (FYI these are with Brembo F40’s) while also power braking through all gears fark I’m still going 80mph and the end of the road is well Clare by this point, I’m redlining in first when shortly after I come to a complete stop just feet away from the stop line, this is no BS my hart was pumping and I was sweating like hell, I go home through town the orange fuel light is on I pull into a petrol station to refill my car with 95oct which was half full by the beginning of the race. I call it a day, that was enough racing for a weekend……….

Good kill. You sure you hit 180mph. If so, you are in face nuts.

Poopras are killer roll beasts. Racing one from a roll is practically asking for a loss.

Yep I've done 180mph 290kph a few times (3 times in two years) in my car, quite scary really........ but it wakes me up though........

Deammmn! Good loss. :icon16: Like 2000LS1 said Supra from a roll is no easy race.

Damn, nice race and write-up. I need to get some bigger turbos.

i dont think i can read, i thought he lost at the end?

^ I think so too...thats why i said good race, not good kill.

I boost it redline in first double clutch RPM’s drop to 5500RPM double clutch redline then to 3rd down to 5000rpm look down and shit 120mph granny shift to 4th and my RPM’s drop down to 4000rpm the RPM slowly climes up to 6000rpm



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Vin Diesel, you only double clutch when you are downshifting. So I have no idea how you managed double clutching after redlining first. Did F&F just make it's debut in NZ?

^^^ I was confused by that also...but on a side note, I love racing people froma roll :)

Did F&F just make it's debut in NZ?

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K so wait...you ricer flew by the Supra, and just drove real fast throught the twisties? That what I'm reading.

OOk, I see it now. Good death, but I'm with Igovert...how do you double clutch up?

I love racing people from a roll :)

every car to its own! :D for my car, tis better suited to race from t3h dig!

ralliart 3kgt, nice racering mingg....i wondered what would've happened if you guys went from the stop lights. Good kill(i think) and your stories are more like novels =P keep em' coming! (i think) =p

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Vin Diesel, you only double clutch when you are downshifting. So I have no idea how you managed double clutching after redlining first. Did F&F just make it's debut in NZ?

lol no I ment from second to 3rd, Tokyo Drift was out ages ago here, I havn't seen it yet......

lol no I ment from second to 3rd


Same problem. You double clutch when DOWNSHIFTING. 2nd->3rd is shifting UP.

i dont think he knows what double clutching is

i think he's more like pushing in on the clutch and keeping the rpms up by revving and changing gears

Ummm you can double clutch both when down shifting and shifting up......... has no one heard of this???? I double clutch more when shifting up in fact.....

Look I found this.......

http://www.answers.com/topic/double-clutch

reading that makes it seem like you take awhile to shift between gears then?

The whole maneuver can, with practice, take no more than a fraction of a second, and the result is a very smooth gear change.

Man I'm sorry but please just stop. I don't know what you are doing, but if you are double clutching while upshifting during a race...you are doing something wrong, because it's counterproductive.

If you are rev matching to upshift, that means that you are letting your rpms fall (say you are racing and you are redlining 2nd at 7,000rpms) to match the speeds of the shafts, you are sitting there letting the rpms drop with no engine load. This means that between every shift you are actually pausing and letting the rpms drop (out of optimal range) so that you can have a smooth shift. To get them to match, you'd have to let the rpms fall a few thousand rpms, and as soon as you did shift to a higher gear the rpms would drop again (obviously), so that now you would be starting out in the higher gear at like 2500rpms (out of boost) rather than at like 4k (in boost). That is absolutely ridiculous in a race...you might as well just tap the brakes in between shifts while you're at it. Do you see where I'm going with this?

If I'm driving a car with no synchros, I would double clutch going up in gears. If I still have synchros I wont. Now in our cars the synchros are notoriously weak and do take abuse and grind so doubleclutching while downshifting in normal driving is a good habit to get into (I do it all hte time)...and it can become a necessary one if they do start to grind really badly. However, I don't know a single person that double clutches while upshifting. And I don't know of a single person (short of the guy who wrote the script for F&F1) that would argue it's a good idea in a race.

totally agree although Reading it again I shift gears differently, I usually press the clutch in switch it to neutral let the foot off the clutch pedal then throttle then depress the clutch again and shift into gear..... done very quickly you can maintain high rpm's

I guess you would call it a form of power shifting without riding the clutch so badly.......

I also do it from a stand still, I did this launch at 14.5psi yesterday although it was only to test the camera, which I now know has no sound :(........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpD44XcxtwI

totally agree although Reading it again I shift gears differently, I usually press the clutch in switch it to neutral let the foot off the clutch pedal then throttle then depress the clutch again and shift into gear..... done very quickly you can maintain high rpm's



That is the proper technique for double clutching while downshifting. If you are doing that while up shifting, the reving isn't matching your rpms at all, because they need to drop if you are trying to synch them with a higher gear. So do that when downshifting...good, doing that while upshifting...makes zero sense whether racing or not.

So I would only need to double clutch when comming to a slow down??? or shifting down for more power yep I get it now Thanks.


All though I still think that this unorthodox technique makes for easy shifting; I’m not a mechanic so I don’t know why but it takes away the knotty feel. I was shown this by my dad in our old GTO who has done a little racing in his time........

For every day driving go ahead and D-clutch but when you race just shift and go.

Have you been doing this for all your races? If so, god damn your car is fast! Because you are slowing it down big time. You probably would have beat that supra if you just shifted.

Yep and in case you missed it, I also did it for this launch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpD44XcxtwI

I read this quote on here ages ago and I find it fitting "double clutching on an upshift to save ur syncros is like pissing to put out a forest fire"

lol

and i'm sorry, lol, but what was the point of that video? There is no sound and it's pitch black so it shows lights going off into the distance. you might as well have stood realy far away and zoomed out with the camera.

Back on topic, those RZ supras are so nice.

and hitting 180....tsk tsk tsk damn.

yo ralliart 3000gt.. i dont know if u still read this thread but if u do can u tell me what kind of setup u have and were did u purchase it at. I just bought my 3000gt and am trying to fix it up. any feed back would be appreciated.

i believe he bought it like that....he has the magazine article in his car domain about it.

oh i c. thanks for info

i dont know why i didnt ask earlier but do u guys know a good place to buy performance parts for 3000gt's. I've looked everywhere i could find. I"m currenctly tryin to look for a intake manifold for a non vr4, but no luck.

Hey bro, Yea I bought this car already moded by Ralliart........... There are several places you could go to buy performance parts:
http://www.dynamicracing.com/customer/home.php
http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_index.asp

You should come over to the 3000gt section and get acqainted with fellow enthusiasts........ Oh and welcome to the forums bro.......:)

nice....keeping up with a super dupera on a roll is a task not all cars can do...and damn I dont think I could get the shifting with my right hand down.....