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Schludwiller
08-23-2001, 02:03 PM
Hey maybe we should have a bearing repacking clinic at GoX2. :D I just called the local Nissan dealer and they want $200 in labor. (I'll end up doing it myself, but was curious how much they charged).

Sgt_Lobo
08-23-2001, 02:44 PM
Good idea! And being the nice guy I am, I will offer my X for the lessons.... :D

Schludwiller
08-23-2001, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Sgt_Lobo
Good idea! And being the nice guy I am, I will offer my X for the lessons.... :D

Get in line buddy. :D

Synchro
08-23-2001, 06:48 PM
i am doing mine with a couple of other MAXC guys this saturday. i would be happy to help with the clinic. i even have a bearing repacker. i have most of the tools too and myself or someone else can get the 4 i don't have that we will need. so no worries there.

and whomever's truck is the project vehicle will be the one who is doing the task on their truck. the instructors will be standing over you shoulders. no free lunches folks. make sure you bring the bearing seals with you to GOX2.

ScottG
08-23-2001, 09:20 PM
I finally got around to doing mine last weekend. Warmonger's tutorial came in handy. It's not to difficult, just follow the instructions. Be sure not to tighten the bearings to much. I almost made the mistake of tightening the nut to much.

Schludwiller
08-23-2001, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Synchro
i am doing mine with a couple of other MAXC guys this saturday. i would be happy to help with the clinic. i even have a bearing repacker. i have most of the tools too and myself or someone else can get the 4 i don't have that we will need. so no worries there.

and whomever's truck is the project vehicle will be the one who is doing the task on their truck. the instructors will be standing over you shoulders. no free lunches folks. make sure you bring the bearing seals with you to GOX2.

I don't have Warmongers tutorial. Could you please give me a complete listing of what we need (tools, parts, etc). I could bring that stuff to GoX.

Chris_McCracken
08-23-2001, 09:49 PM
I need to do mine. I have the seals just sitting on the workbench collecting dust. Is someone bringing a packing tool? I can't find one at any local shops, and am too lazy to order one from napa.com. What kind of grease to get?

xoc
08-23-2001, 10:19 PM
I'll be too busy wheeling and drinking... Have fun :finger:

Make sure to bring a torque wrench...

ScottG
08-23-2001, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Schludwiller


I don't have Warmongers tutorial. Could you please give me a complete listing of what we need (tools, parts, etc). I could bring that stuff to GoX.



I just printed out the instructions he has listed in the link posted in the "how to" section of this board. He has a list of the tools needed. The entire job is done with ordinary hand tools (metric wrenches and screw drivers). I didn't even use a bearing packing tool. It gets a bit messy, but you can squeeze the grease into the bearings by hand. The only tool I bought for the job was a set of snap ring pliers. But, I'm sure you could get the snap ring off with a screw driver if you had to. Use a high temp grease.

Schludwiller
08-23-2001, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by xoc
I'll be too busy wheeling and drinking... Have fun :finger:

Make sure to bring a torque wrench...

Yeah, but I learned that at 8,000 feet you can't drink beer constantly (even though I tried). Those driveway tuneups at the condo are always interesting.

Synchro
08-24-2001, 12:38 AM
as i posted, I have all but a few tools and i will get the rest of them before this weekend, even the bearing repacker for the second time. and i am happy to help and bring all this stuff to GOX with me.

I am helping with 4 trucks this saturday. if i cannot learn it by that point something is wrong. we will not need warmonger instructions per se at GOX, even though i will bring the CD of them anyhow. all you need to do is go buy yourself a set of seals. the seals in question are "2 rotor seals, Nissan part number 40232-8B500" and should cost about $24 for the set.

as for getting everyone's bearings done, no offense, but do we really want to take as much time as it could to do everyone's? a workshop is one thing, which i am cool with. maybe 2 trucks, Schlud's, since he brought it up and one other person. I would prefer to do this one evening, but i am of course not the ultimate say and am flexible. maybe at the picnic or something, while everyone else is out playing volleyball? maybe Sunday night? there is the potential to suck up a lot of time if there are a ton of trucks to do. But if everyone sees the process in action, they wcould be able to go home and repeat it afterwards, which is the point of a workshop.

this could be a whole other addition to GOX next year, seminars and workshops. i could lead a few like adjusting torsion bars and stuff like this. heck i'll do that one this year too if enough people are interested in learning it.

but again with any of these items, whomevers truck it is does the work!! :)

Synchro
08-24-2001, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Chris_McCracken
I need to do mine. I have the seals just sitting on the workbench collecting dust. Is someone bringing a packing tool? I can't find one at any local shops, and am too lazy to order one from napa.com. What kind of grease to get?

look up in your phone book for a snap-on dealer. should cost you about $15 -$30. i got mine from snapon.com


If one person could be in charge of getting wheel bearing grease and bring enough for a few people that would be cool. keep it consistens and not gunk up the repacking tool.

xoc
08-24-2001, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by Schludwiller


Yeah, but I learned that at 8,000 feet you can't drink beer constantly (even though I tried).

Lightweight...
You just need more practice :D

warmonger
08-24-2001, 04:06 AM
Too bad I won't be at GOX. I've had more practice than anyone thanks to the fact that I can't keep my@#$ out of the Florida mud! :) Not to mention the sinkholes and mosquito lagoons.

OffroadX
08-24-2001, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Synchro
look up in your phone book for a snap-on dealer. should cost you about $15 -$30. i got mine from snapon.com

I caught a Snap-On truck at a garage the other day and inquired about the little bearing packer, and he was asking $30-40 for it, I forget exactly, but it was too rich for my blood at the time. Part # YA470A. He did mention I could likely find it @ Napa, as it is not a Snap-On-exclusive item, and probably for less.

Brent

Synchro
08-24-2001, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by OffroadX


I caught a Snap-On truck at a garage the other day and inquired about the little bearing packer, and he was asking $30-40 for it, I forget exactly, but it was too rich for my blood at the time. Part # YA470A. He did mention I could likely find it @ Napa, as it is not a Snap-On-exclusive item, and probably for less.

Brent

and matt peckham waved down a snap-on truck where he lives and got it for $15. i payed $34 for mine on snap-on.com. so i guess it varies. <shrug>

wqbang
08-24-2001, 09:42 AM
If you plan on packing your wheelbearings alot, a tool would probably be a good investment. Packing by hand is really freakin' messy but not difficult at all.

Which reminds me, I need to pack the wheel bearings in my camper before the big trip. Woohoo! 17 More days!

Chris_McCracken
08-24-2001, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by wqbang
Which reminds me, I need to pack the wheel bearings in my camper before the big trip. Woohoo! 17 More days!

Camper?! You're one of them "fancy lads" aren't ya?

wqbang
08-24-2001, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Chris_McCracken


Camper?! You're one of them "fancy lads" aren't ya?

Ummm... OK. And? What if I am a fancy lad? I like imported and microbrewed beer? Does that make me a fancy lad? Hell, I am young, urban, and professional. I guess I am a yuppie too...

We still tent camp and starting to backpack, and will be horse trailriding/camping in WA. However, we bought it specifically because it will be our home for about 4 weeks on our trek this summer to the PNW.

Regardless of how fancy he might be, go ahead call MT/Philosopher a fancy lad. :) He has one too.

I most certainly hope that me having a camper doesn't undermine my "Manly" credability.

Chris_McCracken
08-24-2001, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by wqbang


Ummm... OK. And? What if I am a fancy lad? I like imported and microbrewed beer? Does that make me a fancy lad? Hell, I am young, urban, and professional. I guess I am a yuppie too...


Perhaps you missed the humor there... If I had a camper for long, base-camp trips, I'd use it anyday. ...and as for your choice in beer... can you really call big-name domestic's "beer"?

Philosopher
08-24-2001, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by wqbang


Regardless of how fancy he might be, go ahead call MT/Philosopher a fancy lad. :) He has one too.


Yeah but mine is from 1970 and is painted brown, white and tan. No one who looks at it would dare call me a Fancy Lad. :D

KillerX
08-24-2001, 01:07 PM
No, just a poor (or cheap - I'll let you pick) fancy lad. :flipa:

wqbang
08-24-2001, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Chris_McCracken
Perhaps you missed the humor there...

I did. But we digress.... Back on topic folks. Nothin' to see here!

Chris_McCracken
08-24-2001, 06:01 PM
I managed to locate a bearing packer locally (Napa, $15, cheap, plastic, but it'll work). What kind of grease do I need? Just generic wheel bearing grease?

Synchro
08-24-2001, 07:32 PM
which bearing packer did you get? is it the one that needs the grease gun or is it the cylindrical style? the latter is easier from what i understand and less of a mess, or so i have been told and is why i got that style.

as for grease, i would think your ideas are correct, but warmonger would be the one to ask. for tomorrow's repacking Dean is picking it up, so i have no idea, sorry.

Chris_McCracken
08-24-2001, 08:21 PM
Its looks like a syringe. I'm a little worried it won't do the job, as it only works on bearings up to 2" (How big are they on the X?). I guess just let me know what grease you use, and then I'll be a copycat. I suppose its probably a good idea to get this done BEFORE a 1600 mile trip to Ouray...

Synchro
08-25-2001, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Chris_McCracken
Its looks like a syringe. I'm a little worried it won't do the job, as it only works on bearings up to 2" (How big are they on the X?). I guess just let me know what grease you use, and then I'll be a copycat. I suppose its probably a good idea to get this done BEFORE a 1600 mile trip to Ouray...

yes, that is the other style. it should work though, just not as easy that's all. i will report back to you about what grease we use tomorrow.

yes it would be best to do it before if they really need it. cause once they are damaged, you have to replace the bearings, nothing can fix them from what i understand.

warmonger
08-25-2001, 07:45 AM
Just generic wheel bearing grease is fine. That's what I use for mine. As for bearing repacker, the one Synchro got is by far the best one. It packs quickly and semi-cleanly. Don't be shy with the grease and don't forget to put grease in the rotor and on the spindle shaft. You'll be surprised how much water makes it in that rotor from water crossings.

Chris_McCracken
08-30-2001, 01:23 AM
OK, that wasn't so bad at all. Excellent directions on the FLXX site, Warmonger! One thing that should be included as needed consumables is a roll of paper towels. I went through a ton of them just keeping enough grease off my hands to hold on to stuff. The packer I have sucks ass. I will be finding a Snap-On truck or website before the next time I do it for the good packer. I went up to Auto Zone for the grease. They had about 10 different kinds. I settled on the premium "Valvoline Synthetic". I figure synthetic is better for engines, so its probably better for wheel bearings, too. Went with the Valvoline, as there was no Mobil1 grease. It said it was for "All Imports" & "disc brake wheel bearings". Sounds good so far. Well, the only drawback is that its black in color, so I will not easily be able to tell if its fouled. Chances are that if I'm dissassembling my wheel bearing to check if its fouled, then it probably is (I probably drove through something I shouldn't have). Clear or white grease might be a better choice. Just my 2c worth.., hope it helps someone.

Synchro
08-30-2001, 07:38 AM
yes paper towels are a must. the shop towel version of those is even better!! they come in a blue roll and aren't as absobent as normal paper towles, but are much better at taking grease off items.

wqbang
08-30-2001, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Chris_McCracken
Clear or white grease might be a better choice.

Some brands are red. It makes it very easy to tell new from old.

Kerensky97
08-31-2001, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by wqbang
Some brands are red. It makes it very easy to tell new from old.

Mobil 1 is red/pink, I like that more than the regular cream/white color.

And again, thanks to FLXX and Warmonger for the how to.

XMan9
11-30-2001, 01:13 AM
i can tell you guys aren't mechanics. you don't need a bearing packer to pack bearings. you get a handful of grease in your left hand and scoop the edge of the bearing into the stuff, slowly rotating it until it is full inside the needle bearings. but first, make sure you wipe off and inspect the bearing for chips, fatigue spalling or brinnelling. sheesh already...:bloated:

Kerensky97
11-30-2001, 02:38 AM
Some of us like to save time.

Philosopher
11-30-2001, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by XMan9
i can tell you guys aren't mechanics. you don't need a bearing packer to pack bearings.


Nope, you don't NEED one but goddamn it makes the job much faster and easier. not to mention is does a much better job of getting the old grease out.

warmonger
11-30-2001, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by XMan9
i can tell you guys aren't mechanics. you don't need a bearing packer to pack bearings. you get a handful of grease in your left hand and scoop the edge of the bearing into the stuff, slowly rotating it until it is full inside the needle bearings. but first, make sure you wipe off and inspect the bearing for chips, fatigue spalling or brinnelling. sheesh already...:bloated:

Uh, Xman,

Every tech in my shop here has one and uses it. When you're paid on commission, time saved is money earned. That's how I found out about it. One of our line techs let me borrow his. One week later I shelled out the $30 and bought one.

Schludwiller
11-30-2001, 06:18 PM
That's ok. He siphons his fuel at the gas station too. :bloated:

XMan9
12-03-2001, 10:40 AM
hehe...:D

XMan9
12-03-2001, 11:02 AM
i too was a tech working for commission. sometimes it would suck, sometimes there was gravy. i worked saturdays for over 10 years. thats where the money was. brake and frt end/alignment was my bread and butter, but i did it all. didn't mean to rip, just show another way. now i work at a golf course cuz i don't like dealing with the public anymore. that was one of the toughest things about automotive. now i am in a relatively low stress area of mechanical repair and kind of my own boss. the pay is not too bad and i get to tinker with a wide range of stuff. been there done that... FORE!

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