well, as of the monday of this week, i have offically started my whole bodybuilding transformation. i want to be able to compete in 07 about september. i want more motivation. just proving everyone wrong is a lot of motivation for me, but i need all of it i can get. i currently take in about 180g of protein a day. give me motivation...NOW!

you know what, buid youself to a nice atheltic frame with ~10% or so body fat and stay there.

Competition bodybuilding that seems to interest you takes far too much time and dedication and its pushed to such an extereme that you end up making a healthy lifting activity into a unheatly one.


Plus i don't even think you realise how hard it is to reach the 3% or so bodyfat required for serious competition. You'll starve youself worse that those super skinny models. Oh and lets not forget that you'll have to display youself in fron of a crowd wearing only speedos :uhoh:

Oh and lets not forget that you'll have to display youself in fron of a crowd wearing only speedos :naughty: :boink:

Fixed...:grinyes:

i dont know if u need to take protein, you can get plenty strong without it. ive never really taken anything myself. i knew a guy though that took something called glutamin, it makes your muscles recover faster. that might be helpful to you. as far as motivation goes... idk what to tell ya, ive always enjoyed working out so i didnt need motivation.

yea, protein and glutamine-L. i personally take protein since my family likes to eat greasy foods and such. most of the foods i even refuse to eat. they wonder why my brother isnt overweight since his matabalism is faster than erones elses, and i have normal matabolism. so thats y i take in protein, because the lack of foods for it in low calorie form. im not aiming for that low of BF, but like 10-9% would be great. i am a mesomorph apparently, and puttin on muscle isnt hard for me. i enjoy working out yes, but now all of my workouts are intense, since doing them not intenstly as i am now has gotten me a little strength, but not much. competing all natural amatur, is about 7% BF i believe.

wait, is this for football or just fun? so you want to compete in body building? or compete as in football? you're still planning to play football right? well, if you're still in football, my advice is to just follow what your coaches had set up for you, the lifts you guys do will be more towards althetic performance and will help a lot in football. And if after your senior year you wanna go into body building competition, then you can start 'lifting for looks'

180g's is not enough ... im only 17 and when I used to train I took in 400g's of protein 500g's of carbs and 150g's of fat ... you need high intakes for your muscles and when you cut well decide how you wanna do it. Also make sure you get 1.5 to 2 gallons of water a day. for a good quick growth take Creatine its gonna put water in your muscles and as you train your muscles will grow and then the water will remove and you wont lose size.

Since you wanna compete to get a good placing you will need to bring down your bodyfat around 2-3%

^creatin, the substance that killed that one baseball dude, and that one football dude, and that one other guy........and the other guy.........i believe creatin is illegal now or on the way to be

IMO, chiquea, its not worth it mang, body building to compete? if you just want a nice body, just watch what you eat and train hard, train SMART too

Yeah, creatine is some nasty stuff. You shouldn't use that.

The most important thing in bodybuilding is your diet(besides your workout), weightlifting has been like my life for the past 4 years, its a love hate relationship now. but in order to get big you must eat ALOT you should eat like 200g's of protein a day in sessions of 30-40g at a time because your body can only absorb that much in one sitting, and get plenty of carbs and a good amount of fat this will all help alot to increase muscle, besides that have a good workout routine and change your routines up every 8 weeks because your body gets used to it fast and will not grow so you always have to change it up.

^creatin, the substance that killed that one baseball dude, and that one football dude, and that one other guy........and the other guy.........i believe creatin is illegal now or on the way to be

umm... no

that stuff that killed those guys was called Ephedra. it is contained in stacker pills for one. idk if its in creatine or not though.

besides, creatine is for pussies IMO. i kinda hinted at it before, but im a believer in being all natural. i didnt take shit and whats funny is i was one of the 5 strongest people in highschool when over half the football team was on protein and that shit. but, i have no problem with going home and eating red meat all the time, thats what i eat almost every day anyway, regardless of whether im working out or not.

I don't know if the video in this link is motivational or anti-motivational but here's what you'll be competing against. NSFW (porno ads and such...)

http://www.abum.com/show/13665/extreme_bodybuilding.html

i hate juiceheads, i can understand if your a professional bodybuilder and you have to take em because every1 else is, but people to do it for a quick fix and cheat piss me off.

Creatine is definitely not illegal, they sell it at walmart, walgreens etc. Ephedra is different than creatine. I believe ephedra does more for cutting out body fat whereas creatine is for adding water to muscle tissue to make it swell. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

Everybody is motivated in different ways, so what works for one guy may not work for the next. You kinda gotta find your own motivation imo. As for me, I get my best workouts when I have my music with a certain playlist.

One question though that no one has asked... Why is this in the Non-Spec Racing forum :confused:

Creatine is definitely not illegal, they sell it at walmart, walgreens etc. Ephedra is different than creatine. I believe ephedra does more for cutting out body fat whereas creatine is for adding water to muscle tissue to make it swell. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

Everybody is motivated in different ways, so what works for one guy may not work for the next. You kinda gotta find your own motivation imo. As for me, I get my best workouts when I have my music with a certain playlist.

One question though that no one has asked... Why is this in the Non-Spec Racing forum :confused:

im pretty sure your right on your assesment of teh drugs. ephedra is for weight loss, it speeds up your heart rate and is extremely dangerous. creatine is for bulking. creatine can be dangerous to though if you dont drink plenty of water.

for me when i worked out the best workouts were when i was listening to metallica and i was with some other strong guys who would get pumped up as hell. passing by those people who are screaming in the weight room look like idiots, but that really does motivate. at least it did for me.

about the thing about the non specific racing forum... we who post here regularly post pretty much anything in here...

to the one who said being all natural and the other guys were on protein. I point at you and say idiot! The fact that you eat protein everyday and your body needs it so you can live is basicly all natural. Creatine is found in many foods also and that also makes it all natural so have creatine, protein, whey is all natural.

For the best information go to www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com)
Also take a minute and check out the forum, if you have questions ask them, many can answer.

to the one who said being all natural and the other guys were on protein. I point at you and say idiot! The fact that you eat protein everyday and your body needs it so you can live is basicly all natural. Creatine is found in many foods also and that also makes it all natural so have creatine, protein, whey is all natural.

For the best information go to www.bodybuilding.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com)
Also take a minute and check out the forum, if you have questions ask them, many can answer.

your a tool. you dont think i knew that? its still artificial nutrition though. tell me, do you normally intake that level of protein or whey? didnt think so. besides im not necessarily saying doing that stuff is wrong anyway, i just dont like doing it, thats just me.

well, to answer rice(er)s questino first: i was brought up in a pretty quiet community with no one my age. i sat at home and owned at mario 1,2 and 3 for nes. i ended up gaining weight around 3rd grade i believe. i was 200 right after school let out in 8th grade. i basically biked for 14 miles a day, going to cuz house and other people's houses. i ended up at 168 i believe with a 6-pack in a month. since hgh school, i gain weigh from the dman school food. now im like 14% BF at 200. so, basically, im trying to get back to 10% BF, since erone in my school is conceded, and that it'll help with football/track as well.

i will say this once, i will not take creatine. i dont do such a high amount of cardio as creatine requires, so i would get buff, but also get puffy in the stomach. i am also in the whole part of 'cutting', so creatine wouldnt do me any good for what i want anyway, how i want it.

o and yes rice(er), i am serious. i would love to be the most ripped one outta the group of people i hang with. cant stand it when we go to the mall and we grab a group of fine girls, only to get 'stuck' with the really ugly one that is one of their 'friends', yet i was the one who in the first place went over there to make conversation till my buds come over as well. the whole eating right thing and regualarly exercising isnt the problem for me, its the school foods make me gain thing for me basically. i do this every year, but imma do what i can to keep it going throughout the school year.

whey protein is the way to go for me actually. im about a week away from becoming 'skinny' again to where i dont have my love handles no more. i actually take in about 40g in a sitting, 5 meals a day sometimes 6. i am looking to bulk up a little, but i am as i am told a really nice build that i dont need to bulk up much more than i am already. i dont want to become a walking square if you know what i mean.

ive gone to bb.com, but only for workouts for certain muscle groups and how to do my splits. the whole show thing is to be able to outshow most people how much ive changed and how dedicated i really am to something, as i have problems with being commited to anything.

^^ tell you what, i dont know where to find it on their website but i used to be on the program from west coast bar bell and i really liked it.

i would love to be the most ripped one outta the group of people i hang with. cant stand it when we go to the mall and we grab a group of fine girls, only to get 'stuck' with the really ugly one that is one of their 'friends', yet i was the one who in the first place went over there to make conversation till my buds come over as well.

man, are you kidding me chiquea? i thought you were better than that man, girls, pffftt.....forget girls, they can come later, the girls will chase ya when you got the $$, not you chasing them. I tell ya, if a girl really likes you, they go for your personality, right now you're just messing around, right? if you wanna do that, wait till you got the $$ and trust me girls will fly to you. When you're ready to settle down and get married, you want a girl who's gonna like you for your personality, for who you are, not your $$ or your muscles. Honestly, i've seen ugly guys with pretty girls, cuz you know why? the guy aint cocky that he has big guns or whatever, and shows the girl respect, and when you talk to girls, thats what they'll tell you, a cocky guy is a big turn off. You know what i'm trying to say here? i mean having a nice body helps too, but you dont need to over-do it man.

you looking to bulk get a nice 40,40,20 ratio which is 40% protein, 40% carbs, 20% fat. Eat about every 2 hours. Your 200lbs so you should eat around 4000 calories a day. Eat 400g's of protein a day, 400g's opf carbs a day and 89g's of fat a day.

rice(er), i know what ur going for. the whole personallity thing is great and all, but ive been running on that for about 4 years. i just want it to be more of a 'bonus' as you might say. and i personally dont like it when people talk to you since u got bank. thats y i go shopping bummy, but not too bummy, and see who helps me. if their an ass, they dont get my commission. im not the cocky sob that erone in the school hates as they say. idk, if u hanged with me for like a day or so, u'd see what i mean. im not the most 'popular' person in school since i dont drink/smoke at parties and things.

just disregard everything ricer just posted, seriously, it was never even there

ricer, you dont need money to get hot girls.

I heard you do when it comes to the hot azn girls, maybe thats where hes coming from.

Dood if u want it bad enough, and with 180g of protien a day and every day lifting you will get there. It just takes time. You will see awsome results after the first month then it starts to get a lil slower. Just make sure u isolate the muscle groups and u will be swull in no time. Lifting weights is addicting, on top of that the ladies are allways a big fan of the swullness.

Make sure u do your cardio though. Hit the bike or the treadmill for 15 mins at a fast pace at the end of your work out.

BTW your the one who decides which girl u get to talk to. All u need is confidence and to be yourself. Lifting helped me with that x100.

Also ricer... just cause u don't have cash doesn't mean u don't get girls. not every girl out there is in it for the money. Highscool is a lil tricky but once u hit college its a whole different world. The super hot ass girls normally wont touch u unless your 7 feet taller then them while u stand on your wallet. But everything else doesn't give a damn how fat your wallet is. All the muscles is doing for him is giving him that much needed confidence. Without it your just another guy with confidence issues that they don't want to deal with.

P.S.

Best thing in the world is when u trick them into asking u to take your shirt off cause they want to see the mucles. cause then u have to go ahead to get them to take thiers off

you will never reach full potential with what you eat. it does take time and dedication but it also takes nutrition and with 180g's your lacking that.

I got 400lb deadlifts under my belt, I used to train with the biggest mofo in the gym, he ran at like 260lbs and could outlift him on the back movements. I know what it takes to make it, take a minute and take my advice or go read it up.

Heres a few vids of the Pro's from my personal collection I like to watch to get me motivated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77GgeYt-jg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqtE4GfFbAw&search=ruhl
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F8YxVUjonWM&search=ruhl (http://youtube.com/watch?v=F8YxVUjonWM&search=ruhl)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KEgLGIExP5M&search=ruhl (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KEgLGIExP5M&search=ruhl)

All this fitness talk is making me want to drive across the street to the gym and get a membership to get my fat ass in shape.

I could walk or jog there of course, but that would be too much work. :lol:

you will never reach full potential with what you eat. it does take time and dedication but it also takes nutrition and with 180g's your lacking that.

I got 400lb deadlifts under my belt, I used to train with the biggest mofo in the gym, he ran at like 260lbs and could outlift him on the back movements. I know what it takes to make it, take a minute and take my advice or go read it up.

Heres a few vids of the Pro's from my personal collection I like to watch to get me motivated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t77GgeYt-jg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqtE4GfFbAw&search=ruhl
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F8YxVUjonWM&search=ruhl (http://youtube.com/watch?v=F8YxVUjonWM&search=ruhl)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KEgLGIExP5M&search=ruhl (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KEgLGIExP5M&search=ruhl)

i was 190lbs, deadlifting 415. i could clean more than anyone in the entire school, even the fat guys. and i used nothing. your wrong. all you need to do is work hard when your in there. and by hard i mean when your done you have trouble starting your car because your arms are so tired.

now again, dont get me wrong, im not trying to say he shouldnt do that. just pointing out that he doesnt NEED to.

yea he does, sorry to argue but you can work for f*&$% ass off but if your not eating right nothing is gonna happen, maybe at first you will grow without eating right but after lifting for a long time its damn near impossible to get any bigger without a proper diet.

yea he does, sorry to argue but you can work for f*&$% ass off but if your not eating right nothing is gonna happen, maybe at first you will grow without eating right but after lifting for a long time its damn near impossible to get any bigger without a proper diet.

well i eat a lot of meat anyway... and i did it. so if its near impossible, then im the reason the near is there.

food is fuel for a person
gas is fuel for a car

to lift 400lbs you need fuel
to go 400km/h you need fuel

Fivepoint knows what I mean. All you got was good genetics and a real slow metabolism. How about you fly down here and show me a 415lb deadlift with a immense clean and which ever one you do but for that you will stay here 2 weeks and eat little food. if you can do it I will pay all expenses that it cost you and you can say you are right. If not go home and say I was right.

food is fuel for a person
gas is fuel for a car

to lift 400lbs you need fuel
to go 400km/h you need fuel

Fivepoint knows what I mean. All you got was good genetics and a real slow metabolism. How about you fly down here and show me a 415lb deadlift with a immense clean and which ever one you do but for that you will stay here 2 weeks and eat little food. if you can do it I will pay all expenses that it cost you and you can say you are right. If not go home and say I was right.

i never said it little food, i eat lots of food. dont try to read into things. doubt me if you want, it makes no difference to me. im just making a point that what you guys are saying isnt necessarily needed no matter what. when you are on a good program and train hard 4 days a week, it makes a big difference. besides that, i havent lifted weights in over a year, ive gotten somewhat smaller, that was all in highschool.

i never said it little food, i eat lots of food. dont try to read into things. doubt me if you want, it makes no difference to me. im just making a point that what you guys are saying isnt necessarily needed no matter what. when you are on a good program and train hard 4 days a week, it makes a big difference. besides that, i havent lifted weights in over a year, ive gotten somewhat smaller, that was all in highschool.

nevermind im giving up. your just one of those I trained in highschool I know it all guys and you cant prove me wrong

nevermind im giving up. your just one of those I trained in highschool I know it all guys and you cant prove me wrong

actually i already did. besides its completely impractical to fly somewhere you jackass. you know that. your probably just mad because your not a good enough athlete to lift anything without cheating. really when you look at it in perspective, on a lift like deadlift, 400 lbs isnt that much. it really isnt. you need to wise up. besides, you were taking what i said and twisting it anyway, i never said without eating which you were harping on. i have been repetedly saying i ate, and still eat, a lot. also last fall i dabbled in some weight lifting when i was at OU, and guess what, i was stronger than before anyway. atleast on bench.

wheres cassiesman when you need him, hes a big guy and was pretty strong. he can confirm, 400lbs really isnt that much when you look at what a lot of guys are doing who are taking a lot of supplaments. also, im definatly not the one acting like a know it all, mr 400lbs is incredible. man i know freshman in highschool that lift that, and im not making that up.

like i said, doubt me if you want, it really makes no difference. i did what you said isnt possible, and whitnessed a freshman do it, one that weighs 145lbs no less. thats all that matters to me.

eh...i could deadlift like 350 freshman year. havent really tried it since then. maybe i should add it to my routine tomorro and see. back, shoulders, and traps are tomorro. or not.

10 10 8 6 forward shrugs
10 10 8 6 backward shrugs
10 10 8 6 military press
10 10 8 6 shoulder press
10 10 8 6 inclined dumbell butterflies
3 sets of back machine till failure

eh...i could deadlift like 350 freshman year. havent really tried it since then.

my point exactly

10 10 8 6 forward shrugs
10 10 8 6 backward shrugs
10 10 8 6 military press
10 10 8 6 shoulder press
10 10 8 6 inclined dumbell butterflies
3 sets of back machine till failure

how many days a week do you plan on lifting? i assume 3....

well your definatly getting the shoulders and pec minors.

honestly i dont know how much it matters, but the programs ive been on always had you do one core lift, then the ones like you are doing. of course the butterflies and military press will work the same muscles as say... incline bench, which can be considered core i guess. i suggest one thing, do you have access to a roman chair? i love those for abs.

first thing first, seriously guys, if you want the ladies, just show you got the $$$, and they will follow, maybe not the super nice girl next door, maybe not a girl you wanna marry and spend your whole life with, but the ones who party, etc, you know what i mean, its common sense, ya? but maybe im confused with what chiquea said, maybe he's looking for a nice girl and have kids, be a family, etc......in that case, you probably dont want to marry a girl because she's addicted to your $$$.

second, deadlift is nothing, are we on the same page here? deadlift how many times? if one time max, then 400 lbs deadlift is like candy, I do a full 90 degree squat 400 lbs my junior year in HS. The bigger guys were doing 500+ lbs on the deadlift machine, some were doing that in reps! Now if we're talking about cleans....then 400 lbs powercleans is a bit hard.

third, chiquea, if you're lifting to GET BIG, thats the wrong way, at least for me, i wouldn't be doing any 10 10 at all, the most i'd probably do if i want to get big is 8, the rest are 6s' and 4s'. Now, if you want to lose weight and/or maintain weight, then doing reps of 10s would be considerable.

second, deadlift is nothing, are we on the same page here? deadlift how many times? if one time max, then 400 lbs deadlift is like candy, I do a full 90 degree squat 400 lbs my junior year in HS. The bigger guys were doing 500+ lbs on the deadlift machine, some were doing that in reps! Now if we're talking about cleans....then 400 lbs powercleans is a bit hard.

third, chiquea, if you're lifting to GET BIG, thats the wrong way, at least for me, i wouldn't be doing any 10 10 at all, the most i'd probably do if i want to get big is 8, the rest are 6s' and 4s'. Now, if you want to lose weight and/or maintain weight, then doing reps of 10s would be considerable.

rice(er) proves my point also with teh 400 lb thing, thankyou rice(er).

i agree with the second paragraph quited here too. but i think you just trying to get in shape anyway right, not big.

this is actually turning to be an interesting thread. yes stang, the reason i chose 10 10 8 6 is for losing weight. i am about 13% BF i believe, and am cutting. taking in more protein, making sure im doing at least 30 min of a sport or lifting a day is great for me. the whole i bring a muscle milk with me when ever i go out with others insead of crap food is helping as well. i am pretty big as it is. ill take a pic with this nice abercrombie shirt i picked up which i thought was cool and my 1st A&F shirt ever. im basically lifting to lose the weight, get more defined, and help for sports as well. i am also lifting 3 days a week. 2 days on of really intense lifting, 1 day rest, then 1 more day, then 3 days off. the days off im ususally doing cardio and working on core. not actual ab exercises, but like running, playing more basketball and such.

stang, roman chair, no. but modifiers are really good for me and leg raises are also good. maybe i should get a thing that tells me my BF. ill like the pic in my new smallest shirt ever, which is a little more motivation to make sure i can stay fitted in it. if love handles start to show in it, i kno i need to start cutting again.

sounds to me like you have a pretty good plan going. i think itll work well.

dang, i've always thought you were african american :p and you dont look 17 (or was it 18?) :lol: not that its a bad thing or anything :p

dont use that muscle milk garbage it has so much fat in it, the best protein out there is isopure zero carb, it has tons of protein and no fat at all or carbs in it.

I watched the dvd of jay cutler and he talked about a sponsor that make protein ... they blend all three proteins in one which is super nice. Look for the three blends of protein or drink milk before bed.

I have a similiar workout plan to what you are doing and it seems to work.

Sunday/Weds is chest and triceps
Monday/Thurs is back and biceps
Tues/Fri is legs and shoulders

We do sets of 10, 8, 6 with increasing weight each time. In about a year I went from 5'6" 135 lbs to about 150 lbs, and my bench has gone up about 40 lbs. Not a huge gain, wish I could get bigger but I seem to have hit a plateau.

wish I could get bigger but I seem to have hit a plateau.

you can get bigger but things tend to slow down once you get in good shape with it. what you need to do is switch the reps up from week to week so that you shock your muscles some. what the program i used to be on did was something like 3x5, 5x5, 5.4.3.2.1., 10.8.6. but yeah, you do slow down in improvement after a while but you will still grow some. it also helps if you switch your auxilery lifts up some.

i was 190lbs, deadlifting 415. i could clean more than anyone in the entire school, even the fat guys. and i used nothing. your wrong. all you need to do is work hard when your in there. and by hard i mean when your done you have trouble starting your car because your arms are so tired.

now again, dont get me wrong, im not trying to say he shouldnt do that. just pointing out that he doesnt NEED to.
Creatine is for pussies that cant do shit on their own. I was the second strongest guy on my team when I played football, and all I took was a single protien shake after practice just to keep my energy levels up (I'm insomniatic, so any given day I'm only running on about 4-5 hours of sleep, if I'm lucky).

In highschool, I wieghed 250 pounds. I was deadlifting into the 700s, squating six something, my bench was in the mid to high three hundred, and my clean was a high 400.

Then I went to college, and got lazy. All the musscle went away, and turned into fat. Worst mistake ever. Now my max bench is probably a high 200 if I'm lucky, I can barely squat four hundred even, but I know my dead lift is still good. Hell, yesterday after work when I went to work out (I need, not want, but need, to get my ass back in shape), I did a warm up set of leg presses...15 reps at 390 pounds. Then I did two more sets of 10 at 400. However, I'm more concerned on loosing weight. Every day I can, I run three to four miles at a sustained, pretty quick pace. Most of my lifting now is just tune up lifting, not really musscle building.

But I've noticed a general lack of motivational posting, just information. So I'll go ahead and try to motivate you now

*clears throat*

You are a worthless pathetic piece of fuck! You have no tallent, no skill, no drive, and are worthless as a person! You will NOT be able to compete, you will NOT build any strength, you are just going to fail horribly, wasting all your time, and making yourself look like a complete idiot! You have no fucking clue what you are doing, and you never will! People fucking hate you, and think you are pathetic and fucking stupid, and are just gonna laugh at you when you fail, and you WILL FAIL! Fuck you, fuck the hole you came out of, and fuck the hole that that hole came out of! I hope you fucking die.

Now.

Proove me wrong.

sorry cassiesman, be being yelled at doesnt give me motivation, just proving everyone wrong that i can get to 10% BF will do really good for me. mind you when i take muscle milk, its b4 my workout, its better than eating fast food actually. id say, the pac should start to show in december if even b4. good ol football starts soon. O and rice(er), i am actually african american. im so mixed you cant believe it. but the one thing im not, is hispanic.

take the muscle milk right after your workout, thats when your body needs it the most, what lifting does is rip the muscles, and when they heal they should heal stronger, but protein is what helps them to heal stronger so right after a workout is when you need protein the most.

motivation... u want motivation, ok....

First lets start with the fact that if your over weight you have a greater chance of geting diabetes... do you want to go blind...do ya..i didnt think so.
You will have bad problems with your back and joints the older you get.

Over weight people have a higher chance of heart attacks, strokes and dieing alone in a one bedroom apartment; siting in a chair with a wife beater on and chetos crumbs all over you.
Bottles of alcohol everwhere; because you have never had a girlfriend, so you became an alcoholic...have liver probelms. Also you took up smoking because you didnt care....you have lung probelms.
Then you die alone and unhappy all because your fat.

Now that last one might not happen but it could. But getting in shape isnt easy it will take dedication, hardwork and almost no eating.

It will take more then 30min a day to get in shape atleast 2. i weighed almost
275 pounds; i have since lost 65+ pounds of fat and put on alot of muscle. It took almost 2 years to do....im 17 btw. so ya i was fat as hell.

I ate like two to three times a day for a year but i rode bmx/bicycle for at least 2 hours a day. I finished school and begain riding my bike like 4 hours a day like 3-6 times a week.
That lasted about 6 months; i also begain going to the ymca more often like 30min x 3 times a week. The last 3 months i have been going to the ymca at least 4 hours a day like 3-5 times a week. eating once a day when going to Y 2x on days off.

On the days i go to the ymca i wake up, drink a protein shake and go to the Y. I know people say do biceps one day triceps one day and then chest one day. Then do cardio on the days off. But...

I tried that and i see more results doing triceps, biceps, forarm, and sholders
then doing cardio atleast 30min a day. I also do abs and legs everyday 30mins +.

Then the next day i do chest, shoulders, forearms, back. Also cardio 30mins abs and legs 30 min each.

then rest for a day and start over the next day.I rest 30-45 seconds between sets. Each set i do 8 reps.

Most of the body builder and fitness buffs didnt start out beign fat. So they all dont know whats best for over weight people. They say go out and run... bull Its hard for fat people to run or jog. i know i tried. Running like 500 feet and having to stop isnt going to help you lose weight.

Walking/runing is good. But lifting weight is better imo. Because you burn calories, build muscle, that burn more calories while you are resting. Each pound a muscle you gain burns 50 calories an hour more ..i read that on a bodybuilding site.

You need to eat like 1-2 times a day max, for losing weight. Lots of protein,carbs...ya i said it carbs..it is easier to burn then fat.
The meat you eat should be lean; no fat. lots a vegies, rice
You should check a bodybuilding site on what to eat.

IM geting tired.. i was at the y all day so ill end this.

I didnt write this to brag about how i lost weight and am strong. i wrote this to tell you how much work it takes. it will also take some time. But since i lost weight people are sooo much nicer to me. and by people i mean girls.
Guys give me way more respect and people wave to me now..

Cliff notes:
who is cliff and what were is notes about?

motivation... u want motivation, ok....

Over weight people have a higher chance of heart attacks, strokes and dieing alone in a one bedroom apartment; siting in a chair with a wife beater on and chetos crumbs all over you.
Bottles of alcohol everwhere; because you have never had a girlfriend, so you became an alcoholic...have liver probelms. Also you took up smoking because you didnt care....you have lung probelms.
Then you die alone and unhappy all because your fat.


Stop talking about me *runs off crying*

muscle milk right after my workout, i'll personally just stick to my whey protein 'shanke' thing since whey is taken in quickly, and not time realeased. i actually eat like 5 meals a day, but they arent really meals. 2 'real' meals, the rest snaks

yeup thatd work better

gotta revive this thread, since it is my own lol.

basically im back into the same place i was before, except with a lot more muscle, and less fat %. but, im in the same place, i need more modivation.

i just graduated from high school officially of 6 hours ago. anyone got any good ideas for really good cardio? im thinking of starting up with biking and such. i am taking in soo little compared to when i was in school, its a joke, and not be hungry.

and ive cut down on the whole protein thing, as its only made me bigger lol. its hard enough to find clothes since of my huge shoulders. protein maybe 1once a week tops.

goal till june 20th : lose 10 lbs.

anyone else think otherwise?

gotta revive this thread, since it is my own lol.

basically im back into the same place i was before, except with a lot more muscle, and less fat %. but, im in the same place, i need more modivation.

i just graduated from high school officially of 6 hours ago. anyone got any good ideas for really good cardio? im thinking of starting up with biking and such. i am taking in soo little compared to when i was in school, its a joke, and not be hungry.

and ive cut down on the whole protein thing, as its only made me bigger lol. its hard enough to find clothes since of my huge shoulders. protein maybe 1once a week tops.

goal till june 20th : lose 10 lbs.

anyone else think otherwise?

You know what wouldn't be a bad idea? Getting into training with MMA (mix martial arts) fighters. I've seen and trained a bit myself and some of those guys put themselves through the most rigorous training I have ever seen. Those guys are cutting weight and keeping fit all year long. I've never seen people cut weight until I saw it from them myself. And after one day, you will notice a difference.

A cousin of mine is into it deeply. Learned a few tricks while training in Tito Ortiz's camp down in Syracuse. A lot has to deal with heat and sweating it out. Trips to the sauna, wearing two jumps suits at a time and things like that during your cario work out. Hell, in just a short visit there, he saw one guy shed 5 lbs in about 2 hours. And he said it wasn't even like he tried to. That and I'm sure you're very aware of your diet and amount of food intake you need to keep the weight down.

I second the MMA training. Not only does it kick your ass but its loads of fun I think. As far as biking I find it a little boring but you might want to try some mountain biking and jumps and what not to make it interesting. The only down side is bikers tend to sustain a lot of injuries.