okokok... NON-MARO Question

I (my wife) has a 04 Kia Sedona minivan with the 3.4 liter (I think... it's a piece of crap) engine.

It just turned 30,000, and the service guys keep calling and asking if we want the "super-duper up your pooper" 30,000 miles service for $400. Includes flushing all fluids, brakes, etc.

I just had new brakes and aftermarket rotors put on it because the morons couldn't figure out that the stock rotors warp (they all do, poor design).:disappoin

Question is this... Do I REALLY need to have the fluids flushed and replaced? IE: brake fluid, coolant, etc? Seems like bullshit to me.

Ohh, I don't know about all that, but at 30k miles, you really need them to check the muffler bearings and blinker fluid :thumbsup:

They're trying to play you like a fiddle Jim, it's just a sales gimmick.

Oh and of course in the process of this "much needed preventive maintnance" you know the lil twerp will be calling, "um sir, we kind of found something that needs attention" :bs:

Now, here's the kick in balls,manufacturers have always printed this kind of shit up in the service manuals, but some of them now are starting to void warrenties if it's not followed, needed or not.

This is why I buy beaters with heaters and drive 'em til they die.

Ohh, I don't know about all that, but at 30k miles, you really need them to check the muffler bearings and blinker fluid :thumbsup:

They're trying to play you like a fiddle Jim, it's just a sales gimmick.

Oh and of course in the process of this "much needed preventive maintnance" you know the lil twerp will be calling, "um sir, we kind of found something that needs attention" :bs:

Now, here's the kick in balls,manufacturers have always printed this kind of shit up in the service manuals, but some of them now are starting to void warrenties if it's not followed, needed or not.

This is why I buy beaters with heaters and drive 'em til they die.

Yeah... I wanted to go down there and kick all their asses when they called and said the brakes are "squeaky". (Thankfully my wife said... "They weren't when I dropped it off".) I just paid $400 to have their warped rotors and crappy metallic pads replaced, and they want to put another set back on! RETARDS.

I'll have to dig out the warranty and check it out. BUT considering the manual recommends oil changes every 7,000 miles... I'm thinking the only thing that will be require is routine maintenance. Hopefullly it'll say that brakes fluid and coolant flushes are NOT routine maintenance.

They all say 5-7K "normall driving conditions", but "heavy to severe use" requires every 3k. I stick with the old fashoned 3, but if the oil still looks clean I'll push a little past, but never over 4,500.

it should break down what service is "recommended' at what mileage/time. What I would do in the near future tho is get a hydrometer ($2) and check the protection level of the coolant.

I brought my maro in thursday, and they're still 'checking' the teperature problem today. The problem with this is I KNOW it's gonna cost some money but If they don't call me in time they cna't do the work and I lose ANOTHER day...why my car, why?

*adds one more day and they've had the damn car for a week.

okokok... Dylan THANKS - I'll do that, didn't think about it, good advice.

QUICK?!? What the hell is with the random hi-jacking of everyones' threads to post unrelated updates on your maro? :disappoin :screwy: Put it in one of the 30 threads you already have going.:nono:

okokok... Dylan THANKS - I'll do that, didn't think about it, good advice.

QUICK?!? What the hell is with the random hi-jacking of everyones' threads to post unrelated updates on your maro? :disappoin :screwy: Put it in one of the 30 threads you already have going.:nono:

No problemo, and a-fucking-men, Quick go back to left field bud.

That does seem funny, they say new cars can go 100k w/ no tune up. Or radiator flushes. So I would say they are trying to screw you over...

I don't care how many miles the claim, reality is a cumbstion engine needs maintnance and clean parts.

I especially love it now as people are hitting that 100k mark and going for service and most place won't touch em because nobody ever atleast took the plugs out and put new anti-sieze on em, leaving them practically welded in the head.

Wait, what's that, off in the distance? Is it a bird,? Is it a plane? NO, it's Quicksilver_28 with another random fucking post!!! :spit:

Wait, what's that, off in the distance? Is it a bird,? Is it a plane? NO, it's Quicksilver_28 with another random fucking post!!! :spit:
That is hilarious

edit- I do agree with the not having it looked at. It should be gone through at least or looked at. But like I said before, God I love being a turtle...lol

Ugh.. that reminds me I gotta change the damn spark plugs on the Monte soon.. :disappoin

Ugh.. that reminds me I gotta change the damn spark plugs on the Monte soon.. :disappoin
I tell you what, I just had a tune up on the Z. No way could I get the the back spark plugs. Its just to tight.

And that $400 bucks flush it all crap is well a bunch of crap.. I havent done that to my Camaro.. although I should soon..

HEY JIM, WHATS THE NAME OF THIS PLACE?! :lol:

KIA :dunno:

Not sure about kia's warranty, but hyundai if you don't do their required 60k service (for $800), they void the warranty. The bulk of the work they do with this is check the timing chain. Not replace it, but just check it. Read the fine print, they may have snuck something like that in there, then think about how much the vehicle is worth at that point, is it worth it for the warranty? Didn't think so with the hyunday, why pay $800 to check the damn chain when for another $150 it can be replaced? Just my :2cents: on the issue.

With you guys on this one... and Bryan it IS the Kia Dealer. Total douchebags. I gotta pull the wartranty and read the fine print, but I ain't paying them $400 for that shit. If need be I'm sure I can find an "honest" mechanic willing to (edit) write up a $400 repair invoice for the requested services if I slip him $20.

I don't care how many miles the claim, reality is a cumbstion engine needs maintnance and clean parts.

I especially love it now as people are hitting that 100k mark and going for service and most place won't touch em because nobody ever atleast took the plugs out and put new anti-sieze on em, leaving them practically welded in the head.

Wait, what's that, off in the distance? Is it a bird,? Is it a plane? NO, it's Quicksilver_28 with another random fucking post!!! :spit:
cumbustion?

yeah yeah yeah..........

There's goes your reference from me pal.

Yeah an INTERNAL CUMBUSTION engine... hah! I'd say you're really getting screwed if you have one of those! I guess that's like you're screwing yourself?!?

Whata you talk'n about Willis?

who the hell knows... i started thinking about licking birdshit off plastic and skeeved myself out!

who the hell knows... i started thinking about licking birdshit off plastic and skeeved myself out!

And you guys say I'M RANDOM

Dude, Quick, you already fucked up my thread so why can't I have a little fun too?

a LITTLE? you took out every thread I had on the first page AND in performance. I didn't really hijack your threadto begin with. I thought we were discussing garage work and how we hate the suckers. I thought you had it all under control so I contributed that I didn't. XD

Ok, Quick you have a PM buddy. We (Jim not involved) were jsut messing with the fact of this and yes it went a tad bit over.

HELL, I don't normally get involved in these types of antics, sorry, it was intended as humourus way to get the point across of the random threading.

Hate mail..

:lol: Although it was pretty funny.. its even more amazing that John/another mod didnt notice it and still hasnt.

Also an internal combustion engine? Jim I sure do hope you have one of those.. or you got something special over there..

:lol: Although it was pretty funny.. its even more amazing that John/another mod didnt notice it and still hasnt.

Also an internal combustion engine? Jim I sure do hope you have one of those.. or you got something special over there..

The block is from outer space and the intake manifold is from china :grinyes:

even Formula joined in, so it wasn't like it was malicious. I'm just going to settle it in jim's thread so he gets mad at you now.

There it's settled, knock it off

You need to remember, Jim is the AF member who has a dog subjected to more EPA air testing than any car in any state including Cali :lol2:

I dunno if I'd wanna upset his brusslesprouts.

:lol: Although it was pretty funny.. its even more amazing that John/another mod didnt notice it and still hasnt.

Also an internal combustion engine? Jim I sure do hope you have one of those.. or you got something special over there..


Ahem... internal CUMbustion engine... not COMbustion engine. :shakehead If you need me to explain it....:cwm27:

No.. I got that U part and I thought it was a typo on your part.. but I just got it..

You need to remember, Jim is the AF member who has a dog subjected to more EPA air testing than any car in any state including Cali :lol2:

I dunno if I'd wanna upset his brusslesprouts.

And who actually (NOT MAKING THIS UP) ate an entire loaf, a whole loaf, of italian bread in about 3 bites. That fat bastard.

I quoted Wright in the quote thread in COT. :)

Also im not a big fan of those types of movies.. (what happens during the 'money shot') and did you know that there's 9 of em?

Also im not a big fan of those types of movies.. (what happens during the 'money shot') and did you know that there's 9 of em?

WTF are you talking about, you been hanging out with Quick a little too much lately Rally. :nono:

WTF are you talking about, you been hanging out with Quick a little too much lately Rally. :nono:

ROFL

First off I dont want to hang out with Quick.. he never has a running car.. also I just sent ya a PM.

WTF are you talking about, you been hanging out with Quick a little too much lately Rally. :nono:

Eh em, it's Nacho Libre now :nono:

Fine quote me, I have to edit my posts like 8 times after they are originally submitted.

It's nothing personal, I quoted myself too....

Got ya now Bryan, and yeah, that's pretty nasty.

Hey Dylan... looks like you've got some editing to do on that last post. lol.

And Quick is now Nacho Libre???:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What the hell does that mean anyway? Cheese Book?:cwm27:

Told you Jim..

They are calling me Nacho Libre because of the new movie with Jack Black

Nacho Libre translates to "Free Nacho" It's spanish..

The movie looks dumb but i'll probably see it anyway.

It's nothing personal, I quoted myself too....

Meh, I checked it out, it's cool.

They are calling me Nacho Libre because of the new movie with Jack Black - Nacho Libre translates to "Free Nacho" It's spanish..


1. I know it's spanish you dork. I thought "Libre" was "Book"... digging deep here, high school spanish class was quite a while back. Most of the Hispanic people I deal with now speak english well enough that we can muddle through a meeting with a few good laughs. I can usually figure out what they're talking about... if they don't talk too damned fast.

2. What the hell did you do to get the nickname of Nacho Libre?? Run around in some tights and a cape???

(AND I like "Cheese Book" better... I think that's what I'm gonna call Quick from here on out.)

Haha, cheese book.

I didnt do anything to 'deserve' a name like that.. just John being stupid as always..

Yeah same stuff happens to me all the time.. its just that you oversleep and thats it.. usually 6 hours will be great time for me to get up or 4 and i'll be energized and ready to eat... nachos it seems.

An excerpt from the banter thread, Nacho, thy foot be shot :loser:

1. I know it's spanish you dork. I thought "Libre" was "Book"... digging deep here, high school spanish class was quite a while back. Most of the Hispanic people I deal with now speak english well enough that we can muddle through a meeting with a few good laughs. I can usually figure out what they're talking about... if they don't talk too damned fast.

2. What the hell did you do to get the nickname of Nacho Libre?? Run around in some tights and a cape???

(AND I like "Cheese Book" better... I think that's what I'm gonna call Quick from here on out.)

WTF I don't even like cheese, mozzarella, nacho cheese, but that's it. It's a long story I'm not going into...

Libre = french, different pronounciation. I remember hearing someone else say they thought it meant 'nacho book' too, on the local radio I think.

WTF I don't even like cheese, mozzarella, nacho cheese, but that's it. It's a long story I'm not going into...
.

Whew, I thougth you were gonna say you needed fromunda cheese there for a second. :eek:

So Jim, you've got the Kia problem under control?

Whew, I thougth you were gonna say you needed fromunda cheese there for a second. :eek:

now you're sounding like my dad....lol seriously

Libre = french, different pronounciation.

Well the way its being pronounced in the commercials, its spanish.. also look how the movie is about Jack Black in Mexico and having to be in the Lucha Libre to get money for the orphanage..

now you're sounding like my dad....lol seriously

I have to check the moon phase, must be a new one.

Well the way its being pronounced in the commercials, its spanish.. also look how the movie is about Jack Black in Mexico and having to be in the Lucha Libre to get money for the orphanage..

No i mean, in french it's book, but in spanish, which i don't know, it's 'free'?

No i mean, in french it's book, but in spanish, which i don't know, it's 'free'?

Yup.. Lucha libre roughly translates to Free fighting or free-style fighting.

Rally, I LOVE the avatar! That's Awesome.

So.. now you're saying it means... a free-fighting cheese book? (This has GOT to be one funny-assed movie.)



(Oh, and... YES, KIA under control).