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Da hell, Ford?carrrnuttt 05-13-2006, 05:19 AM http://www.recordnet.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060510/MONEY/605100302/1003 WAY to cut off your lifeline, considering that most Mustang enthusiasts are in it to mod the car. Igovert500 05-13-2006, 12:14 PM Sad that they have to go after a little company for such trite BS. CivRacer95 05-13-2006, 12:14 PM Ah, let em shoot themselves in the foot... Mr. Luos 05-13-2006, 12:26 PM The way of the world these days.... TheStang00 05-13-2006, 01:04 PM thats a shame... someone at ford needs to wise-up Musashi3000GT 05-13-2006, 03:00 PM That shows you how bad the situation at Ford must be that they are digging behind the cushions looking for spare change. :shakehead VR43000GT 05-13-2006, 03:33 PM Wow, I can't put the stupidity that they have into words. Polygon 05-13-2006, 07:51 PM That shows you how bad the situation at Ford must be that they are digging behind the cushions looking for spare change. :shakehead All the spare change they get from this won't save their ass. I think this is going to hurt a lot more than it will help. TheStang00 05-13-2006, 09:16 PM All the spare change they get from this won't save their ass. I think this is going to hurt a lot more than it will help. actually they have started doing better, they broke even last quarter. gm though is still doin really bad. sidewinderl 05-14-2006, 12:26 AM It's how US trademark laws work. You defend your trademark or you risk losing it. Ford is doing the right thing. If you're going to make a business off of somebody else's IP (intellectual property), then give them their due credit. Otherwise you are stealing. 12GONE 05-14-2006, 10:32 AM It's how US trademark laws work. You defend your trademark or you risk losing it. Ford is doing the right thing. If you're going to make a business off of somebody else's IP (intellectual property), then give them their due credit. Otherwise you are stealing. what is he stealing? ... its a word for a "car" what they do is for "cars" if it would of been ford that would of been different but for a type of car thats dumb. Polygon 05-14-2006, 02:23 PM actually they have started doing better, they broke even last quarter. gm though is still doin really bad. Well, that's good to hear. They were always doing better than GM though. Do you know if their stocks are still at junk bond status? It's how US trademark laws work. You defend your trademark or you risk losing it. Ford is doing the right thing. If you're going to make a business off of somebody else's IP (intellectual property), then give them their due credit. Otherwise you are stealing. You can take IP and shove it up your butt. That is something that people take too far like political correctness and this is a good example of it. I run a computer company called Synapse Computers. So if I see someone else use that anywhere on their product I should sue them? I don't own the word Synapse, hell they are the pathways in your brain. Guess I'll have to sue everyone for having them because it violates a trademark. Ford has no grounds here. Mustang is a wild horse, not a word that they own. I guess they better sue the military contractor that made the P1 Mustang airplanes in the WWII days maybe there is some money there? :rolleyes: The Feb. 16 letter from Howard, Phillips and Andersen, a Utah law firm representing Ford on intellectual property enforcement matters, asked Mustangs Plus to: » Transfer to the automaker the registration for mustangsplus.com. » Submit to government offices all forms necessary to discontinue registration of the Mustangs Plus name. » Cancel Internet and telephone directory listings and advertising under the Mustangs Plus name. » Turn over for destruction all signs, banners, business cards and collateral materials. » Issue a check to Ford for $10,000 in damages. You can't tell me those demands aren't silly over the name of a BREED OF HORSE!!!! Honestly I would fight it. sidewinderl 05-14-2006, 02:33 PM what is he stealing? ... its a word for a "car" what they do is for "cars" if it would of been ford that would of been different but for a type of car thats dumb. A trademark is a trademark whether it is Ford or Mustang. They are obligated to defend it if they wish to retain it. Mustang is a brand name, and if you are profiting off of that brand name (say you start a business called "Mustangs R Us"), you must have legal consent from Ford. If you do not, you are stealing. If it isn't such a big deal as you imply, why put 'mustang' in a business name anyway? Because of the recognition that the brand name brings. Sorry, but it is a very big deal. sidewinderl 05-14-2006, 03:05 PM You can take IP and shove it up your butt. That is something that people take too far like political correctness and this is a good example of it. I run a computer company called Synapse Computers. So if I see someone else use that anywhere on their product I should sue them? I don't own the word Synapse, hell they are the pathways in your brain. Guess I'll have to sue everyone for having them because it violates a trademark. Are you 12 or something? It's trademark law. Try reading up on it and getting an informed opinion. Mustang is a brandname. If you use that brandname for your own profit without legal consent from Ford, you are stealing. This has nothing to do with horses or WWII fighter planes. If you want to market an original product of your own and you want to call it the Mustang, then knock yourself out. Ford has no grounds here. Mustang is a wild horse, not a word that they own. I guess they better sue the military contractor that made the P1 Mustang airplanes in the WWII days maybe there is some money there? :rolleyes: You can't tell me those demands aren't silly over the name of a BREED OF HORSE!!!! Honestly I would fight it. No you wouldn't. You'd run your company into the ground. Mr Wiggl3s 05-14-2006, 07:05 PM Im sure most of us just lost all respect for ford. The man makes a honest living for 20 years for a car he thought was great. Then the makers of that car say "You can still do that, but just dont say the name of the car in your company at all" ""Give us everything that has the word "Mustang" on it so it can be destroyed" And finnaly lets not froget the $10,000 check to ford for "Damages" Retards. Underground_Killah 05-14-2006, 07:59 PM man... that makes me want to walk away from the mustang i was hoping of getting and running quicker to chevy for a maro or mino. It's pathetic that a company has to bully other companies that actually HELP them. You buy your mustang from the dealer because you see that once you own one, this company can help you modify it the way the ford dealership won't bother doing. it's like going to a "computer store" and having IBM go "we made a computer, stop it or we'll sue" even then they would have a stronger case than FORD in this matter. Like polygon said (i think) Mustang is a name of a wild horse. now, if they put "Ford Mustang ECT" it would be different, or hell even "FORD Inc." or something. this is just ford digging a grave that is already getting deeper. Makes me want to go out to my dad's f150 and pour a 40oz on it. TheStang00 05-14-2006, 08:22 PM i have an idea, how about instead of overreacting and sitting here bitching about ford you guys write em a letter or something. cause this is pointless, why not give some constructive criticism. everyone here is definatly overreacting. you shouldnt lose respect for a company for something like this. 2000LS1Z28 05-14-2006, 09:02 PM I doubt Ford cares right now, it'll be later on in time that it comes back to haunt them money wise. Can't say that much though, cause obviously GM has dropped the ball far worse. TheStang00 05-14-2006, 10:24 PM well i have actually read the entire "way forward" plan. from that long ass read, i believe that in the near future ford is actually going to start improving. Underground_Killah 05-14-2006, 10:37 PM get me an address, and i'll sign my letter TheStang00 05-15-2006, 12:56 AM get me an address, and i'll sign my letter Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O.Box 6248 Dearborn, Michigan 48126 1-800-392-3673(FORD) TDD for the hearing impaired:1-800-232-5952 Monday - Friday 8:00 AM – 5:00 PM local time http://www.fordvehicles.com/help/contact/ address for writers from canada and elsewhere is in the link ^ Polygon 05-15-2006, 11:39 AM Are you 12 or something? It's trademark law. Try reading up on it and getting an informed opinion. Mustang is a brandname. If you use that brandname for your own profit without legal consent from Ford, you are stealing. This has nothing to do with horses or WWII fighter planes. If you want to market an original product of your own and you want to call it the Mustang, then knock yourself out. No, I'm not twelve. The fact of the matter is that you can't sue someone for using the name Mustang in their business. They don't own the word. Now if someone were to use the Mustang logo that would be a different story. You can't trademark the word Mustang. You can trademark the term Ford Mustang or Mustang Mach 1, but not Mustang alone. It comes down to the fact that what Ford is trying to do is unethical. keymaster4225 05-15-2006, 12:55 PM That's why it's been upheld in a court of law... Polygon 05-15-2006, 01:05 PM That's why it's been upheld in a court of law... No it hasn't, it hasn't gone to court yet. Chances are that guy is going to settle out of court. Too bad. . . keymaster4225 05-15-2006, 01:11 PM Yeah, but they've sued many other companies, and those HAVE been upheld in court. Read earlier in the thread. sidewinderl 05-15-2006, 04:58 PM No, I'm not twelve. The fact of the matter is that you can't sue someone for using the name Mustang in their business. They don't own the word. Now if someone were to use the Mustang logo that would be a different story. You can't trademark the word Mustang. You can trademark the term Ford Mustang or Mustang Mach 1, but not Mustang alone. It comes down to the fact that what Ford is trying to do is unethical. The business in question is an automotive business specializing in the Ford Mustang, with Mustang in the business name, and with a Ford Mustang as part of their "logo". Anyway, the real irony of the situation is what was stated at the end of that article: But they have decided to rename the business using the word "restomod," a term referring to car restoration and modification that Mustangs Plus copyrighted. The wording of the final name has yet to be ironed out, though: That decision must wait for another business to relinquish its hold on the "restomod" moniker. :rofl: Polygon 05-15-2006, 05:12 PM The business in question is an automotive business specializing in the Ford Mustang, with Mustang in the business name, and with a Ford Mustang as part of their "logo". Anyway, the real irony of the situation is what was stated at the end of that article: :rofl: Oh, so they are using the logo? In that case I agree with Ford. The Mustang logo is a trademark. He should have known better. Mr Wiggl3s 05-15-2006, 08:42 PM Fact is what the Mustang company is against the law. What ford is doing is unethical though youngvr4 05-16-2006, 07:19 PM No, I'm not twelve. The fact of the matter is that you can't sue someone for using the name Mustang in their business. They don't own the word. it happens all the time...3000gt vr4 instead of gto, because gto was already taken the new ford gt instead of being called the ford gt40...the list goes on with things like this its business!! even in the music industry, you use someone's course in your song, they can sue you without there permission TheStang00 05-16-2006, 07:33 PM kinda like how apple is sueing apple. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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