I was thining of things i might do to my hypothetical LS! camaro. Should I throw a turbo on there after im all done with heavily modifying the engine.I wanna know what you guys think....so....answer the poll! and of course add your comments.

There is no question in a poll... Non that I can see. I think a supercharger would be cool, I have seen some maros with theml. I think the kind of charger was a vortec supercharger.

i hope this aint your daily driver, but turboed ls1 would be great

wow.. u guys answered to quick. i was still creating it

i hope this aint your daily driver, but turboed ls1 would be great
thats also something ive been pondering...why does your MPG go down on a heavily modded engine? i mean if you do things like exhaust, intake FI, but dont mess with the gas affecting parts..camshaft i guess,fuel injectors why does it even affect gas effieciency?

My set-up would cost to much to go turbo right now.

But I would supercharge the hell outta my car if I could afford to.
Maybe some day.
For me...I would get new heads (bigger chambers for lower compression--shoot for 9:1), a D1 ATI ProCharger, and a more boost oriented camshaft.

15 PSI on a 402ci. :icon16:

turbo is great, but to really boost a car a good amount you need to drop the compression really low and at really low compression the car isn't as fun to drive.....and at cost, i'd go with NA but thats just me

a big camshaft is what is going to take your mileage down. But even with large cams ls1's are known to still get great highway mileage. If you go N/A your going to have a big cam and depending on your tune you gas mileage wont be the best. If you go turbo your going to need more fuel to match the increased amount of air which will take your gas mileage out. But with the ls1 you should still get fair gas mileage if you keep your foot out. Only with a good tune though. The ls1's efficiency and computer are responsible for being able to make a lot of power and yet still be good for daily driving. I should be a spokesman for GM or something....

oh....and I would go n/a now and then leave room(forged motor) for a turbo or supercharger later.

I'd go with turbo, but it also costs alot of money to do it.. so im still leaning towards N/A.. unless its the only way to get power out of the engine (Like my 3.1 v6)

is there enough room under the hood or would i have to go STS?

there is room. you may have to move some things but there is room. You would have to fab your own headers unless you can find a kit that has the turbo under the hood.

oh....and I would go n/a now and then leave room(forged motor) for a turbo or supercharger later.

Agreed.

how about forged internals and nos, it is cheeper. I think i am going to do NOS on my 350 after i get it all built.

My only problem with nitrous is that it can mess up your engine.. ive seen some really good engines go boom because they decided nitrous was the next step.. of course it can be used safely when its done right, but there's always that chance..

Not like a turbo couldnt mess up your engine too, but thats different. :icon16:

ya when i run nos i plan to have forged internals and plently of fuel upgrades.

I've seen a pretty badass turbocharged LT1 on streetfire. I think turbos are great on V8, the sound, and the sheer boost!!

I've seen a pretty badass turbocharged LT1 on streetfire. I think turbos are great on V8, the sound, and the sheer boost!!

I know what you mean, the main reason why i'd ever want a turbo v8..

i saw an awsome 00 t/a in person with the STS rear mount system runin 7psi. that thing was bad ass, but it was kinda wierd to hear the roar of a V8 followed by a blow-off valve.

i saw an awsome 00 t/a in person with the STS rear mount system runin 7psi. that thing was bad ass, but it was kinda wierd to hear the roar of a V8 followed by a blow-off valve.

inner conflict :evillol:

I don't see what's so great about sts systems though, the turbo should be under the hood

There is no question in a poll... Non that I can see. I think a supercharger would be cool, I have seen some maros with theml. I think the kind of charger was a vortec supercharger.
I like the way you think :icon16: . On that Note guess what my new best friend in the whole world Link sold me? (I would like to also give a special thanks to 92Z for making it possible :wink: )

That was a decent turbo clip, I think this is one of my favorites though http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-Camaro-Burnouts (lol, mostly cause of the song though)

That was a decent turbo clip, I think this is one of my favorites though http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-Camaro-Burnouts (lol, mostly cause of the song though)

that burnout is insane, torque and boost just lights the tires easily

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/LT1/0/02B12D63-5C00-4E4D-B3E9-CC72E5159C02.htm
http://forums.aspeedracing.com/images/smilies/eek.gifThat was insane! Ive never seen any lt1 or street looking car go that fast! I could watch that all day.

That was a decent turbo clip, I think this is one of my favorites though http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-Camaro-Burnouts (lol, mostly cause of the song though)
damn that was awsome :evillol: .

super charger man come on, no turbo, ITS A RICER THING

super charger man come on, no turbo, ITS A RICER THING

The Germans have turbos, the Italians have turbos, WHY CAN'T WE??

Heres my philosephy. If it makes your car go significantly faster...its all good. See a v8 already has a lot of power...your just adding to it with a turbo charger. A rice car usually doesnt have any power until the turbo is added. Then and only then is it fast.

super charger man come on, no turbo, ITS A RICER THING
You can actually make more power with a turbo than a supercharger but it involves more work. I love superchargers and the basic ease of them but if I wanted the most power possible, I would go turbo all he way. Just look at Andys GN, It was making insane power like 1000 horsepower area. Thats crazy, how many of the 3.8 supercharger boys you see making that kind of power?.

zero.

super charger man come on, no turbo, ITS A RICER THING

What's rice about it, it's alot better and more efficient than a supercharger. I would choose a turbo over a supercharger anyday of the week.

Why not take both? the Koenig Testarossa had a supercharger and twin turbos making godly power, overkill? why not

there wouldnt be a point unless you had a motor that could take 80 psi of boost.

there wouldnt be a point unless you had a motor that could take 80 psi of boost.
turbo diesel LS1 anyone?

...how the crap would you do that? lol

Diesels dont even run 80 psi do they?

super charger man come on, no turbo, ITS A RICER THING

So em, a Grand National is a ricer? I'm confused.

Deisel is high compression all on it's own, that's it's concept.

...how the crap would you do that? lol

Diesels dont even run 80 psi do they?
not 80 psi but can happily take numbers >25 psi

So em, a Grand National is a ricer? I'm confused.
haha exactly. and ever see that awsome twin turbo small block crate engine banks sells, 1100hp. only 30 grand :lol:

Lets not forget Callaway or Lingenfelter Turbo Vettes either. Sledgehammer anyone?

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/lftturbo05_04.jpg

:eek:

guarranteed to get 20+ mpg...

that new lingenfelter vette has like 750hp but i didn't know it was turbocharged. i still think the 80's callaway twin turbo vettes are awsome. they used turbos on alot of things but when they made the callaway camaro they just used an N/A 383.

My N/A motor should make a little power.

Even more with boost though.

there wouldnt be a point unless you had a motor that could take 80 psi of boost.


That is, unless you properly configure/set up/tune a twincharged setup... blower for the low end, switch to the turbo on the top end.

I like the way you think :icon16: . On that Note guess what my new best friend in the whole world Link sold me? (I would like to also give a special thanks to 92Z for making it possible :wink: )
So inlighten me, what did you get???

...supercharger, c'mon Jeremy. :slap:

I got my very own Paxton SN-93. The best part. Its getting here today.

wow ...that would be incredible to see a motor run with that much boost. with 80 psi you would have to have an extremly strong block, and internals, and your compression would need to be like 6 to 1 or lower just to keep the motor from blowing up.


Have fun with the blower formula

Have fun with the blower formula
Rally's coming over today? :icon16:

Haha!!

ooooo buuurrrnn...http://forums.aspeedracing.com/images/smilies/emot-flame.gif

Guess what just showed up. I am going to be sporting wood all fucking day.

hey... uhh i jus saw a vid of a turbo v6 3rd gen firebird beat a 95 lt1 formula. Those 3rd gen v6s are only like 3.1 liters, right? so im thinkin if i strap one on my 3.4 i'd have similar results? someone back me up here....

Yes, the 3.4 will easily take a T-25 and make around 260 horse and the fact is the 3.1 motor is basically the same exact motor you got only destroked very slightly. Some people use larger turbo's for larger gains and with supporting mods you will see even more gains but the LT1 is only at the starting line in mods, while when you go threw the trouble of installing turbo's. Which reguires special headers/manifold and a shit load of fab work. You basically got it as good as it gets.

just curious, if he turbocharges or does any type of forced induction would it require a different torque converter or can the stock one handle the increase in power?

oh and formulalt1, I havn't seen you on the firebird forum in a while where have you been?

Super busy, I have been in the middle of putting putting on a new hood that I had to have prepped. I am also prepping the front bumper for a repaint. Rebuilding the tranny, installing a larger rear. Helping raise a litter of puppys and super busy with both my jobs. Basically no friggin time.

hey... uhh i jus saw a vid of a turbo v6 3rd gen firebird beat a 95 lt1 formula. Those 3rd gen v6s are only like 3.1 liters, right? so im thinkin if i strap one on my 3.4 i'd have similar results? someone back me up here....


what color was it, it mighta been my friend dave

92z I wasnt talkign so much about the 80 PSI but about the combination of different FI methods

I want a supercharger. :crying:

what color was it, it mighta been my friend dave

92z I wasnt talkign so much about the 80 PSI but about the combination of different FI methods

white turbo firebird

I wonder....

My 402ci with low compression and 15-16 PSI from a supercharger..... :evillol: :evillol:

I wonder....

My 402ci with low compression and 15-16 PSI from a supercharger..... :evillol: :evillol:
how low of a compression would you need to get to run that?

Its all good Mr.Luos. You can supercharge, then I will twin turbo and then you can twin turbo and then I will twin turbo and run nos and then you can add nos and then I will twin turbo and run nos and put the supercharger back on top of that and will be so fast that I can break the barrier of time itself , so I will go back in time and purchase your car before you bought it. So ha!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Seems to be how it goes John.



I think I could safely run 15-16 PSI if my compression was 8.75:1. Maybe even at 9:1.

white turbo firebird

nope not my friend but I'm trying to think if this guy Tiago had a third gen...