I think its alright kinda funky . I've heard that it will run under 6 sec in 0-60 for well under 30,000 . I might start likeing it after seeing it more and more ,also the color that i saw it in wasn't that great the orangy color

I think the new Z is great. The only thing that I don't like about the car are the tail-lights. I think they just look odd on the car.

The New Z will have 280hp and 0-60 time of 5.5 seconds, is what Road & Track said.

OMFG no way are u serious that much power that fast i cant believe it . would u get it ? isnt it only a 2seater

I would definitely get it if i had the $$$
There are other rumors out there that it might even have 300hp. :cool:
2 seater? Yeah! It's a sports car! I wouldnt want it to be 2+2, no point anyway...

I like the new Z a lot. It's awesome. It looks good (IMO) and the performance....*drools*...mmmmmm.

No-one is exactly sure how much horsepower it has, as Nissan hasn't released info about that, except for the fact that the car will have more than 260 horsepower. Also, the 0-60 mph time of 5.5 seconds was just an estimate also. Nissan has promised a 0-60 time of under 6 seconds though. I'd definitely buy it if I had the money.

I think the car will almost certainly have more that 260 HP considering existing 3.5L Nissan engines can already achieve that with the tweak of an electrical bit. I can only imagine what this car will be capable of with a few mods. Nissans as with most Japanese cars gain substantial horsepower with simple modifications. Since the motor is based off the Maximas, If room permits, Stillen will most likely craft a supercharger that puts this car alongside the badest of sports cars out there. UNDER 30,000 I don't think is too bad for a car of this caliber. Just remember the price tags on the last generation of 300Z's. The '96 Twin Turbos are still going for 30,000. It's a little too early to tell, but so far this ones on my buy list for 2002.

I hate everything about it except it's front lights are OK and it's rear lights are AWESOME

That's funny, the only thing I don't like about the car are the rear tail-lights. I can't wait for the new Z to come out.

great sig!

for sure the dealers are going to charge a premium for this car, just as they did for the s2000.. those blood suckers.. the car will probably be around 40k out the door by the time they are done with it..

I don't think Nissan will allow that though... it would destroy their plan if they don't...

I hope they don't allow it. It would severely affect sales if they charged $10,000 over MSRP.

Overall a real nice car.

The rest of the car is round. Why the goofy squared-off air scoop?

Rear lights are totally cool. Interior is awesome.:alien:

yes the lights & interior are the only good things about it

I dislike the interior.

I really like the interior. I think it looks really cool.

looks great when the 2+2 comes out i'll get one. I don't have room for another 2 seatr in my family drive way. My 240z is the only 2 seater allowed. With 260+ hp it should run with my Z28. It's cool they need more cars under 30K 0 that are fast and fun!! rock on Nissan!!

it will prolly have around 300hp, which does fit in what they are saying- 260+ hp :licker:

My way... the yellow did not turn out to well. i need to do that again.. http://poweredbyrice.homestead.com/files/350zxmyway2.JPG

That's some nice photoshop work there.
Try adding a side skirt. i want to see how it will look.

the new Z looks terrible!! I love Z's all the way around, but this new concept style sucks!! it looks too much like a european sports car and as a result loses it's identity. instead of trying to be a porsche or an audi it should stick to the originality that made it famous! thunbs down for the new model.:(

I think it looks a lot like the old 240/260/280 Z's. Not much like the last 300ZX, but still has heritage there.

I like it. I don't have money to buy one, and I probably wouldn't if I did, but I like it.

I LOVE all of it especially the interior and even more the price tag. and not to mention the potential it carries if I do get one I'll be calling JWT everyday till they come out with performance mods for it!!!

Originally posted by driveitloveit
looks great when the 2+2 comes out i'll get one. I don't have room for another 2 seatr in my family drive way. My 240z is the only 2 seater allowed. With 260+ hp it should run with my Z28. It's cool they need more cars under 30K 0 that are fast and fun!! rock on Nissan!!

Don't expect that to happen anytime soon. Nissan deliberately made a strong point that they didn't want the new Z to be a 2+2 or even to look like one. They even made the doors shorter just to be sure that the car won't be mistaken for a 2+2.

a different color looks nice, but for the $ i'd rather have an M3


http://supercarstats.hypermart.net/car/exotic-images/bmw_e46_m3.jpg

I like what i have seen so far. I think the production version will be a bit different. Perhaps a little less angular. The usual subtle changes to appeal to as wide an audience as possibe. But if they retain the basic shape and offer 260 H.P. plus as promised for under 30K and I can get a drop top I'm in.:D

The production version will indeed be a bit different. The front grill that has been criticized so much will be a little smaller with softer corners. The wheel arch bulges will be smaller and less noticable. The 20 inch wheels which sit under the wheel arches will be reduced down to 17 inches, with 18 inch wheels optional. The mirrors on the production probably won't have any lights in them. The reverse lights on the car will be moved up, and the dual exhaust tips will be moved to the edges of the rear of the car, rather than in the middle. Inside the car, most of the brushed aluminum will be gone, and different seats will be used for the production car. There will be other changes, but these are just some of the bigger changes to the car.

Z,
I like everything you suggest with the possible exception of the interior changes. I kinda like the brushed aluinium bits. Mind if I ask the source of this great information.

By the way I have to amit I'm glad to hear that they may tone down the front grill a bit.

I would hate to see the interior change esp the seats. I also like the exhaust in the middle that isn't something you see much of I've only seen the viper with this done. aslo are the lights on the mirriors that alum strip on the front or are they turn signal lights? Yes please tell us where you heard this. Thanks Z!

I agree with you guys on this. I think it'll be a shame that the interior will change, as it looks really nice on the concept Z. I think exhaust on the sides will look better than in the middle, but it of course won't be as original as exhaust in the center of the car. The only production cars with exhaust in the middle that come to mind are the Porsche Boxster and the Viper, like Z250R said. I think that the lights on the concept's mirrors are turn signals, but I'm not sure about that. I heard this info from a person who was at Nissan headquarters during a photoshoot of the new Z. The Z they were taking pictures of was silver, and it's supposed to be pretty much like the production version that we'll get in the summer of 2002. I also saw some info on another site, though I can't recall which site I saw the info at.

Anything that has more horsepower than my current car, is fair game. So yes, I would get it.

It's nice to see that Japan's coming out with more and more sports cars nowadays. I was said when all the Japanese super cars of yesterday got the axe. But now with the recent influx of new cars, things are looking better.

like the S2000:D :D :D gotta love S2K

S2000s are pretty cool, but the Z will be better! :D

oh yeah well you can't beat the Zonda!!!!












for only 320,000 dollars more

S2K will triumph over the Z

Hey Johhny...

Got anything to back up that claim? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by the923
Hey Johhny...

Got anything to back up that claim? :rolleyes:

It'd be hard to prove that one's performance is better than another at this time. We'll have to wait until the new Z comes out to truly see which car is better. I have a feeling that it'll be close, but I think the Z will out-perform the S2000. ;)

I do...

the S2k looks faster







:D

Isn't that what Hondas are all about these days? Looking faster? I see more prediction/comparisons strictly concerning performance on the next Z against Porsche's Boxter than with Honda's S2000, but anyways here is my 2 cents on the latter: The S2000 fares well on paper (240 hp @ 8300rpm), but you dont base auto comparisons on horsepower numbers. How much of that power is usable on an everyday basis? Are you really going to be spinning your flywheel near 9 grand at each stoplight? All aspects of a car need to be well balanced, and the Honda seriously lacks in torque (153 lb/ft @7500) simply due to smaller displacement. Yes, we all know it's "amazing but true" that Honda motors have astonishing HP:liter ratios, but without the torque and broad powerband of a 6-cylinder car, driveability is lost.

Even without confirmed power specifications of the next Z, you can EASILY assume that there will be much more than 153 lb/ft of torque; naturally aspirated 6 cylinders generally have their torque and HP numbers close together. Maybe the S2000 is a wonder on the road course, but I'd much rather have a Z for my daily driver. Whether you want to pass someone on the freeway, jump hard from the starting line, or send the aft outwards in a turn, the Z should be capable of doing all with much more ease than the S2000, that is, IF it is powered by anything similar to the VQ35. While the S2000 rides around town like some sort of elitist, the next Z should hold true to its heritage of being a cost-effective FUN car to drive.

Originally posted by morpheusxiii
Isn't that what Hondas are all about these days? Looking faster? I see more prediction/comparisons strictly concerning performance on the next Z against Porsche's Boxter than with Honda's S2000, but anyways here is my 2 cents on the latter: The S2000 fares well on paper (240 hp @ 8300rpm), but you dont base auto comparisons on horsepower numbers. How much of that power is usable on an everyday basis? Are you really going to be spinning your flywheel near 9 grand at each stoplight? All aspects of a car need to be well balanced, and the Honda seriously lacks in torque (153 lb/ft @7500) simply due to smaller displacement. Yes, we all know it's "amazing but true" that Honda motors have astonishing HP:liter ratios, but without the torque and broad powerband of a 6-cylinder car, driveability is lost.

Even without confirmed power specifications of the next Z, you can EASILY assume that there will be much more than 153 lb/ft of torque; naturally aspirated 6 cylinders generally have their torque and HP numbers close together. Maybe the S2000 is a wonder on the road course, but I'd much rather have a Z for my daily driver. Whether you want to pass someone on the freeway, jump hard from the starting line, or send the aft outwards in a turn, the Z should be capable of doing all with much more ease than the S2000, that is, IF it is powered by anything similar to the VQ35. While the S2000 rides around town like some sort of elitist, the next Z should hold true to its heritage of being a cost-effective FUN car to drive.

Very well said. I agree with morpheusxiii all the way on this one.

uh...


you don't see my point




I don't care which one is faster, I'd rather have the better looking one. I base the cars I like mostly on looks... who'd wanna drive a car they don't like? wouldn't you rather drive a car you like? I don't really like the Z, not too bad, but I like the S2k MUCH better.

i like the new z. especially the color. but i plan to buy a classic datsun z instead. new sports cars just weigh too much compared to classics. they try to put too many options on them instead of concentrating on the important stuff like the experience of driving a real car. who cares if your car has every available option when your blowin the doors off the competition.

I Love the new M3, but cant justify the extra 20K + over the new Z at this time.
The S2K is an awesome looking car, but I need low end TORQUE. The kind a 4-banger can't deliver. I have a GSR and can't stand that there is nothing under 5800 RPM.

I believe if you read below (my signature) it tells the whole story.
Yes the S2000 is a kick ass little car, for the price however I would pick the new Z myself.

My favorite all time car is the Skyline, but the Z is the next best thing and dirt cheap:D

As for the classic 240Z (nice, very nice) compared to the new Z concpet. Well we'll have to wait and see. Nissan say's they're going back to it's roots of an affordable Porsche killer sports car. Once we find out how much power it'll have we can do a weight to power comparison and I'm sure the new Z will come out on top. If you think about it, you can always take out most if not all the "gadgets" to decrease the weight of any car today:alien2:

The only look I want people to have of my car is it's taillights:flipa:

ah! another washin'tonion

Anyone care to state an opinion on the first concept new Z? If my memory is correct I believe it was proposed in 1999, was built on the S14 (240SX) chassis, and looked much more like the original 240Z. I remember the reason Nissan had it redone from scratch was because they didnt want their new cars to look too retro; they needed to show that they were moving forward.

Good idea or bad idea? Heck, it would have been a cool car to drive, but I like the current concept far better. Plus, I think only domestic (U.S.) car companies can pull off "the retro" look, prime examples being the PT Cruiser, and upcoming Thunderbird.

"If I were a rich man..."
...I would get the next Z, and buy that one-off concept from the company too.

Does anyone know if the VQ35DE engine to be used in the 2003 Z will be the same one used in the current Pathfinder? If so, then wonderful: more spare parts, means cheaper repairs.

"Plus, I think only domestic (U.S.) car companies can pull off "the retro" look, prime examples being the PT Cruiser, and upcoming Thunderbird."

Have to disagree with you on that one. I believe VW was the first to bring the retro look back with the beetle. Like it or hate it, it does look like the original and yet new.:bloated:

I think the biggest problem will be whether or not Nissan follows through with the current plans? I posted in another "post" how Nissan came on strong in the early 90's (try looking back at the new cars the introduced that year compared to the competion). Now look at then today?! I just hope they deliver the Z on time and bring in the Skyline.

Washington isn't home, it's just where I park my car:D

in Redmond near that big campus:D

i hated the old concept


especially the front lights


ewwwwwwwwww

I like the '99 Z Concept, but the '01 Concept is much better.

Have to disagree with you on that one. I believe VW was the first to bring the retro look back with the beetle. Like it or hate it, it does look like the original and yet new.

--R35USA

Yeah, I wasnt even thinking about European cars, but youre absolutely right on that part. Any news on the VW New Microbus? I heard that the original concept was scrapped because it was too difficult for VW engineers (what? something Germans CANT do?!) to fit an engine in the front and retain its wonderfully familiar flat face. They should place the motor under the floor like the Merc A-class.

They scrapped it?! No way?! Sorry bit off Skyline topics, but that concpet VW was retro cool:sun: That's too bad.

But like my boss likes to insist "we German's don't build crap", say that with a accent:smoka:

However, all is not lost. Even thought the original idea was dropped (round headlights, flat face--the same "new" styling concept of the Beetle), it was done in favor of this second concept New Microbus. As you can see, the design consists of some retro, but a lot of new flavor; similar to how Nissan redesigned the new Z concept. No flat face, no round lights, almost seems like a redesigned Vanagon (yuck), but it looks interesting enough:

Ok, sorry friends I'll get back on topic.

One question about the new Z: Some sources say that the nice aluminum rear tower brace is going to be removed for production models, while others say that its going to stay. Any news?

Oh good Lord, you changed your name. HAHA x50

Originally posted by morpheusxiii
Ok, sorry friends I'll get back on topic.

One question about the new Z: Some sources say that the nice aluminum rear tower brace is going to be removed for production models, while others say that its going to stay. Any news?

Nissan has announced that the aluminum rear tower brace will stay. I think that this is definitely a good choice on Nissan's part.

Oh gee darn it! NO NO NO:D Only change it if I don't like the new R35 and have to go buy an R34 or something:rolleyes:

Bad Igor, bad.:D

HaHaHa.

Have to admit I had to call the wife and dog over to see it:eek: ROFL

Back to the Z. Ya keeping the the entire back with that sort of stainless steel look would be cool. I do like that look, how it looks like you are looking at an expensive jewel in a glass case. Very nice.

The only thing I'm not to keen on are the rear tail lights and the huge grill. Other than that the new Z is on my list of cars to look for in 2003. :frog:

Thank the car gods for the brace embossed with the Z logo....
....it would have been hell to pay to fabricate a new one...

What about the door handles? Will they stay vertical? Some say that vertical handles may make dangerous contact with pedestrians..... uhh.... ACH-bullshit-CHOOO.

Actually the reasoning doesnt sound too far-fetched but is it true?

Originally posted by morpheusxiii
Thank the car gods for the brace embossed with the Z logo....
....it would have been hell to pay to fabricate a new one...

What about the door handles? Will they stay vertical? Some say that vertical handles may make dangerous contact with pedestrians..... uhh.... ACH-bullshit-CHOOO.

Actually the reasoning doesnt sound too far-fetched but is it true?

The door handles will most likely stay vertical, but the front end of the handles will probably be covered.

Hmm not sure if I'd like that:confused: I know I don't care to much for the look right now. The stainless steel look clashes with the brite Orange paint job, of course I would prefer a more sutle yet aggressive color. Traditional black maybe:)

There are already quite a few cars that have vertical door handles. Off the top of my head I think the Cavalier and Nissan's mini-van has them now.

As long as they make them as less visible as possible, I'd be happy with it.:D

ALL THE Z NEEDS IS A BACK SEAT !!!! MANN ONLY IF IT HAD ONE IT WOULD BE HELLA BETTER. OWEL... i know its not meant for one but i wish it did have one.... KINDA LLOOOKS LIKE A COPY OF A porshe but its all good IT STILL LOOOKS PHAT!.. but still needs back seats no matter how small they are.

ALL THE Z NEEDS IS A BACK SEAT !!!! MANN ONLY IF IT HAD ONE IT WOULD BE HELLA BETTER.

--whutsdadeal

Your answer: Get TWO new Zs :D

2 Z's and make sure they both come with a stick, don't need no stinken automatics in a real sports car. If you really want a back seat go take a look at the new RX8 from Mazda, tre cool.


You know the really tough part about having the long arse log in name is logging in, that's a lot of typing:silly2:

but of course the PRELUDE is the best with the TURBOOOOOO.
mann o mann i love that car. unless theres someother car like the z but no back seat so i dont like.

Huh? What? Where did Prelude come from? Who really thinks that trendy 'me-too sporty coupe' deserves to be on the same page as the Z? Sure its a decent car, but at that price, for only a FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE, powered by a 4-CYLINDER n/a motor, my money goes elsewhere. But hey, thats just me. Oh by the way, theres talk going on about its discontinuation since it impedes Honda/Acura's real cash-cow: the Integra (now RS-X).

Yup yup agree with you there. You can talk about Skylines, Porsche, and other high preformance cars, but a Prelude is not (sory to hurt your feelings) IS NOT in the same caliber as any of those cars I mentioned. The Prelude is a very nice car, thought of getting one waaaaaaay back when I was in high school. At that price tho there's a lot more choices.

Honda like Nissan and Mazda is going through some changes. I like the idea. If all company's came out with cars like the new Z (not necessarily the same looking car mind you), but at least competed for better performing car title in the end we win.

Nissan is off to a good start with the new Z.:D

:cool:

I just thought I'd respond to the obviously uneducated assumption that 4's don't make torque.

I drive a 1993 Nissan 240sx and I love it more every day I drive it. You see, I am aware that the powerplant is slightly underpowered, but I dare you to find a honda, toyota, mazda, etc. that can put down 130 lb/ft of torque at 2000 rpm under 7000 dollars used. Stop looking because you won't find one. My engine produces 155 hp @ 5500 rpm and 160 torque @ 4400 rpm.

So I guess you could say the only good four is a Nissan four.
It's got power you can use.

And yes I realize this might start a flame war ...
But seriously Hondas really do suck (except for the NSX)

:cool:

HEY HEY HEY!!!

We are NOT including just ANY 4-cylinder machines. No need to defend your position on the 240SX--I know from first hand what a free flowing KA24DE can muster. One buddy with an S14 ran, and got a few initial car-lengths on a (what seemed to be) stock E36 M3. 2.4 liters is massive, especially for a 4-cyl. Thats just 200ccs away from the displacement of the Skyline GT-R. And what have we all learned from this? There really is NO replacement for displacement. VTEC (and other variable cam systems), turbines/blowers, nitrous oxide? They provide merely support for a motor. Perhaps they can expose high numbers on paper, but NOTHING feels like a high-displacement powerplant, especially the oversized ones, such as those of the 240SX models.

If you haven't noticed yet, we are just expelling Honda 4 bangers from this thread. They have no place here. They do not provide the entertainment Z cars can conjure. Honda S2000 you say? It's a wonderful car, but ONLY for the purpose for which it was built. It STILL doesn't belong here. Just understand that we are not making "uneducated assumptions".

I imagine it will loook good in darker colors like dk blue, dk green, or black. If they do make the fenders smaller and give it a more agressive front it will be OK. Alothough I was really hoping that Nissan would have made a bold new statement. This car doesnt entise me to run out and buy it just off of looks alone.

As for the horsepower Nissan will make it whatever they want. Dissplacement wont matter because lowerend F-bodys have 3.8 liter V-6's that are detuned to get 200 hp so they dont compete with the higher line. Nissan may be doing the same thing. My guess is you will see the first year model with 260-270 hp and then they will probably release a higher hp model the next year like 280hp or they will release a Turbo model that will get into the 300's in which they will want the NA model to be low enough to entise people to spend the extra money on the higher version.

I cannot concur with this theory of the Z's future. True, automakers tend to differentiate their autos from each other, as well as specific trimlines, in order to maximize sales between products. Nissan most decidedly will not do this to the Z, especially while involved in financial distress at an international scale. What supports this? The life of the latest Turbo-Z.

How many of the '95+ twin-turbo 300ZXs do you see on the road today? Only a handful. How much did they cost in the end? About $45,000. This exclusivity drove the public away from purchase. Will Nissan allow history to repeat itself? Probably not. The only reason why they are allowing the Z to revive is because they NEED an "affordable sports coupe" to fill the niche in the States. To allow the next Z to float up to the unattainable near $50 grand range would be suicide, as well as a break from the Z's whole philosophy. We must not forget that the original Z was an answer to costly sports coupes, and that plan resulted in instant success. It is obvious that Nissan is making an attempt to use this strategy once again, especially with cars like the expensive Boxter selling.

As for the VQ motor being a "detuned" model, the logic is not possible. We already see the VQ35DE pushing 240hp in the newest Pathfinders. The press states that the VQ in the next Z will have a flywheel output of 260hp; a twenty horsepower gain is easily attainable by any automaker, utilizing freer flowing engine characteristics. Just look at the improvement of the Maxima over the recent years--variable flow technology forced the number up with ease. Therefore, the VQ is already at the peak 'production' level, that is, if an increase in power can only be found by working with bolted on paraphenalia. Nissan's ideology is to lead class by POWER.

If there will ever be a turbocharged model, I will accept it into my world without a second thought. The 280Z turbo hit the mark: quick and cost effective. Why shouldn't a "Turbo 350Z" take the same route?

I must agree with the part that the available pictures of the Z are somewhat odd, being copper-like. However, I understand that Nissan would like their display car to travel back through time, when these colors were popular.

Well, it is now the 21st century, and our appeals have changed. I prefer dark blue hues, and I've altered a Z's photo accordingly:

A red/red Z's interior:

the new z is cool looking, but I sure as hell do not wanna see service engine light coming on, instrument panel vibrating, rotten egg smell coming from the exhaust within the first 5,000miles as I've experienced with their other nissan lineup (2001 G20). so for me, no more nissan. :rolleyes: honda, toyota, bmw are my tickets. :finger: :finger: :finger:

I don't like the new Z too much...it just doesn't remind me of the older ones. I might change my mind w/out that orange paint, though.

Oh, yeah, another car with centered exhaust tips is the C5.

oh yah, and another thing....new nissan interior design reminds me of those clunky boom boxes they sell at circuit city and best buy. robotic metallic color. the hell's with dat steering wheel? the hell's with that shifter? I like the old Z. :flipa: :flipa:

I just called my Nissan "store" (they leased me a 2000 Maxima) and gave a salesman a hard time about the Z. He admitted that they plan on having Z's in the showroom on June 2002. Price will remain the same ($30K for the coupe and about $34K for the convertible option), the horsepower promised to be 300. If that's true, I will kiss my 1 month-old Audi TT quattro coupe 225 good-bye along with the Maxima and hit the road with the Z. I just hope they will make it black :smoker2:

BTW where the heck is the audio box? A cd changer perhaps?

i must say the Z looks much much better in navy blue. But lookswise, I'd take an RSX over the Z. The overall shape is the same (and in pictures the RSX doesn't look to great), but in real life the RSX's body just flows and looks fast. Which is what cars ARE about these days. Why not? Of course, it has to be fast too, but not too fast.

i must say the Z looks much much better in navy blue. But lookswise, I'd take an RSX over the Z. The overall shape is the same (and in pictures the RSX doesn't look to great), but in real life the RSX's body just flows and looks fast. Which is what cars ARE about these days. Why not? Of course, it has to be fast too, but not too fast.

PUHLEEEEEEEEEZ! :rolleyes:

The RSX doesn't compare to the 350Z... it's not even in the same class of car!

I pulled up next to a RSX the other day in my '97 Talon and I felt like I was driving a Ferarri. The tall, narrow stance of the RSX doesn't say "fast" :bandit:... it says "Civic-derivative." It says "I'm a soccer mom, but I'm too cool to drive a minivan." :sleep:

Sorry for the :flamer: but I'm really piss'd at Acura for disappointing me with such a boring reply to something so anxiously anticipated.

Besides... 0-60

RSX: high-6s :crying:
350Z: low-5s :ylsuper:

My money's going for an upgrade... and it's name is Z! :biggrin2:

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DH
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
'97 Talon Tsi AWD ... Honda eater! :rocket:

Originally posted by NissanZ@af
I really like the interior. I think it looks really cool.

i agree, the interior makes the car. :D

Originally posted by the923


PUHLEEEEEEEEEZ! :rolleyes:

The RSX doesn't compare to the 350Z... it's not even in the same class of car!

I pulled up next to a RSX the other day in my '97 Talon and I felt like I was driving a Ferarri. The tall, narrow stance of the RSX doesn't say "fast" :bandit:... it says "Civic-derivative." It says "I'm a soccer mom, but I'm too cool to drive a minivan." :sleep:

Sorry for the :flamer: but I'm really piss'd at Acura for disappointing me with such a boring reply to something so anxiously anticipated.

Besides... 0-60

RSX: high-6s :crying:
350Z: low-5s :ylsuper:

My money's going for an upgrade... and it's name is Z! :biggrin2:

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DH
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
'97 Talon Tsi AWD ... Honda eater! :rocket:

Haha, thats some funny stuff... (and good use of smilies)

And to add to that, the new Z is RWD, has a boatload more torque, and seats only 2. Oh and another thing--I'm glad that Nissan choses to keep their Z car under the Nissan name rather than putting it into Infiniti. I still don't get why the RSX is stuck in the Acura division anyway. It doesn't have anything to do with luxury or exclusivity. Damn, the things they do these days to sell more cars...