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Carols Dodge
04-02-2006, 09:44 PM
Have a 2000 Dodge Caravan. A little history first, this was a buy back vehicle from Chrysler who purchased it back from first owners due to transmission problems(I am the second owner). They replaced the transmission and no sooner then did my warranty end that I was told at the oil change place I had a leak in the trans pan. Had trans pan, filter, and seal replaced, they screwed it up, had it replaced again by another mechanic(less learned don't have a oil change place do transmission pan changes). Leak stopped for about a week and started again and this is when I learned about the "famous" solenoid pak that I am sure that everyone knows what I am referring to. I learned that this particular part is very famous for being replaced on the Caravan's......and let me tell you that there is no shortage of this particular part. So part got replaced. Then about two weeks later noticed another leak. At this point I am ready to pull out my hair :banghead: . Took it back to the mechanic and this is where I need help for peace of mind as I am not ms. moneybags.:2cents:

I am now being informed that there is a "front differential cover?????" that this is leaking. Can someone go more into details about what this is exactly, what the purpose is of it, what happens if I don't replace it but keep eye on the fluid which it is not leaking that much. About the size of a quarter a day sometimes a 50 cent piece.

So besides this front differential cover, there is also something called a transmission cooler hoses? That one of the hoses has a crack and that is where it is leaking from. So where is this particular hose at and what purpose does it have to the differential cover?

This mechanic wants $600.00 parts and labor to fix these two things in Warren, Michigan.

Other than the leak, the van drives great, no complaints and transmission shifting has not changed in any of this. I also but have not done it this year since the transmission leak, use this van to pull a 12 foot pop-up trailer.

Thanks

Carols Dodge

HeadlessHorseman
04-03-2006, 07:33 AM
First of all Carol, you are absolutely right to be concerned about *any* leak from a "delicate" Chrysler transmission pan. Taking your vehicle to a dealer is no guarantee that the job will get done correctly... my transmission blew and was replaced without a transmission pan gasket installed by a dealer... yes it started to leak. These gaskets are expensive (about $40) so obviously my dealer thought they could get away with a squirt of RTV silicone around the pan before bolting it back on.. Wrong...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/HeadlessHorsemn/LeakingPan.jpg

My '96 GC LE has a 4-spd auto and 3.8L V-6. The OEM gasket is made of metal and has a tiny bead of silicone around the inside edge of the gasket:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/HeadlessHorsemn/NewTransFilterandGasketOEM.jpg

More...

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=540452

And yes, there are two lines connected to the transmission - to and from the transmission cooler in the front of your van. Mine were both leaking a little so I tightened up the connectors... done deal. If your hoses are split, you will probably need to replace them. I plan on replacing mine before the start of the summer season because I now have 228,000 miles on my '96 GC LE and should probably replace them "just in case" they decide to blow due to old age.

You didn't mention what engine size and transmission you have, but you be aware that you probably should not be towing anyting with your Caravan that weighs more than 1000lbs if you don't at least have a 3.3L or better yet a 3.8L 6-banger. Trust me on this one, mini van trannies are not the best choices for dragging campers (we have a Coleman Utah) and are currently on our third (and last) transmission for this '96.

Good luck.

Carols Dodge
04-03-2006, 08:19 AM
The leak was from the transmission pan but that is good now. It is this differential cover that now has this leak, along with the two hoses that goes to the transmission cooler.

Do you have a picture or does anyone have a picture of these two area's? What is the purpose of a differential cover?
What happens if I don't replace it right away as it is only leaking a day about a quarter size (I check levels daily).
Are these two items something a mechanic must do or something that is basically simple and I am being taken for my money?

The van has 98,000 (however the transmission was replaced by Chrysler per a vehicle buy back at 23,000 miles). It is a V-6 3.0 engine.

Thank you so much for your input on this.

Carols Dodge

vipergg
04-03-2006, 05:29 PM
It sounds like the mechanic is trying to fleece you the front diff cover is just another cover on the side of the tranny held on by about 9 bolts , at most he would have to remove it and reseal it , not sure if there is separate gasket or if they just use RTV , think it is rtv . I wouldn't think it should take more than 30-45 minutes with airtools . The hoses are also another fairly simple job should take more than 30 minutes though I don't profess to know what they get for a flat rate for these 2 procedures. If you choose not to get these fixed then you must keep a very close eye on your transmission fluid levels ,you don't want to be paying for a new tranny. To me it sounds high what the guy wants ... Is this a dodge dealer ????

Carols Dodge
04-03-2006, 07:17 PM
Thank you for your reply, I really do appreciate all of the assistance that I am getting on this issue. :grinyes:

No! This is not a Dodge or Chrysler dealership, however the person is a certified mechanic that does work at a shop that used to work for a Chrysler dealership. It's not his shop, but he works for a man who I know really charges high in prices on work. For example some things that he suggested that I get fixed, well I was able to take it to Belle Tire and get it half the price.

When it comes to Transmissions I asked a few people that I know that had some transmission work done and all I hear is horror stories. This mechanic I have known for several years, but I also know that he gets paid by the job (he won't do it on the side) and has to honor the prices given by his boss.

What bothers me the most is that first the transmission pan was supposely leaking per the oil change place (as admitted before...lesson learned). :banghead: Maybe it never needed to be placed, I do know for a fact the solenoid pack had to be replaced as four different people that looked at it without me telling them the problem all came back and said it was this. So when the solenoid pack was replace I would have thought that the van should have been checked for transmission fluid leaks.

I don't have the money to have the differential cover fixed as the solenoid pack with labor was over $300.00 (the part was over $200.00) and that left me flat broke.

If the hoses and differential cover is easy to do then it might be something that my next door neighbor could possibly do for me as he is a mechanic and actually owes the same dodge just different year and color. I didn't know if this was something that MUST be done at a transmission shop or something that was not as involved. It sounds like the hoses to the cooler and the differential cover would be easy to do.

Would you have a "How To Do" for these two things?
Are the parts easy to obtain say from local auto place like Auto Zone, NAP, or Murray's?
Does anyone have a picture of this particular two areas?

Or can anyone recommend a place in Allen Park or surrounding area near Allen Park, MI 48101 where I could take it to that would not rip me off?

Thanks

Carols Dodge

Stevo2
04-03-2006, 07:36 PM
I'll look around for some more info but here's a little bit. I would call NAPA to see if they have the hose or hoses. Could be your clamps are not tight? There is a revised clamp also and here is the Service Bulletin. Also one dealer online that offers good prices on parts is www.makeitmopar.com

A/T Oil Cooler Line Hose Clamp - Revised

NUMBER: 07-006-01

GROUP: Cooling

DATE: Nov. 11, 2001

SUBJECT:
Transmission Oil Cooler Line Hose Clamp Service

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin provides revised transmission oil cooler hose clamp information.

MODELS:

1996 - 2000 (NS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager

1996 - 2000 (GS) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets)

DISCUSSION:

A revised transmission oil cooler hose clamp is now available and should be used any time it is necessary to separate oil cooler hose connections. Tighten the clamp(s) to 3.2 Nm (28 in. lbs.). Transmission oil cooler hoses should be replaced only it they are damaged.

NOTE :WEATHERED SURFACE APPEARANCE ON TRANSMISSION OIL COOLER HOSES IS A NORMAL CONDITION AND WILL NOT IMPAIR THEIR ABILITY TO SEAL.

Qty 4 of Part No. 04596424AA

Stevo

Stevo2
04-03-2006, 07:44 PM
This diagram says that #2 is the diff cover...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-12/537508/2000CaravanDifferentialCover.jpg

troy1
04-03-2006, 10:16 PM
Has your tranny everbeen overhauled that you know of? You dont see much of leaking pans/sidecovers from the factory they use a good sealant. It is possible the diff is out which is very common on front wheel drive chryslers.

RIP
04-03-2006, 11:56 PM
HeadlessHorseman - Just want to let you know, a bead of RTV on the trans pan really does work if done correctly. Several years ago I had fluid collecting on top of the trans then running down the side creating a puddle. I couldn't see much under there so I figured fluid was coming out a phantom top side breather port caused by a clogged filter. So I changed the filter and used the supplied gasket. It leaked like a siv. I hauled out my Haynes manual and to my great suprise it didn't mention a pan gasket at all. Just a bead of RTV. I called the dealer to verify and was told normally they use a gasket but you can use RTV alone. I applied the RTV, installed the pan, and let it harden overnight. Next day I filled it with fluid and it hasn't leaked to this day. >>> Thanks again for all the great info you've passed on to us. I've avoided many headaches thanks to you.

If you're wondering, the fluid collecting on top was caused by a leaking forward pump o ring packing. Fluid would leak past the o ring, get flung up to and through the crankshaft position sensor by the torque converter, and puddle on top of the case. If interested here's the original thread:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=201436

Carols Dodge - The above original leak went on for about 4 years. I would just top it off. The top off got to be a quart a week so I finally peeled my wallet open and got it fixed for $700 at a local shop. Topping off can work if you have the patients to religously check the fluid level. The leaking hoses however, are an issue you should fix pronto. Cheers!

Stevo2
04-04-2006, 02:24 AM
A few more tidbits...

A/T Pan Gasket - Reusable Design/Installation
NUMBER: 21-05-99 Rev. A
GROUP: Transmission
DATE: Sep. 03, 1999
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 21-05-99 DATED MARCH 5, 1999 WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARTS AND MODEL COVERAGE.
SUBJECT:
Reusable Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin announces availability and installation of a reusable automatic transmission oil pan gasket.
MODELS:
1989 - 1995 (AA) Spirit/Acclaim/LeBaron Sedan
1989 - 1993 (AC) Dynasty/New Yorker/New Yorker Salon
**1989** - 1993 (AG) Daytona
**1989** - 1995 (AJ) LeBaron Coupe/LeBaron Convertible
**1989** - 1994 (AP) Shadow/Shadow Convertible/Sundance
1990 - 1991 (AQ) Chrysler Maserati TC
1989 - 1995 (AS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
1990 - 1993 (AY) Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue
1993 - 1995 (ES) Chrysler Voyager (European Market)
1995 - **2000** (FJ) Sebring/Avenger/Talon
1996 - **2000** (GS) Chrysler Voyager (European Market)
1995 - **2000** (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze
1996 - **2000** (JX) Sebring Convertible
**1993 - 2000 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/New Yorker/LHS/Vision/300M**
1996 - **2000** (NS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
**1995 - 2000 (PL) Neon**
**1997 - 2000 (PR) Prowler**
DISCUSSION:
A reusable silicone gasket has been developed to replace the RTV method of sealing the automatic transmission oil pan. Due to more frequent Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) change intervals and the possibility of the fluid foaming if it comes in contact with uncured RTV it is recommended that this gasket be used in all applications.
NOTE: THIS GASKET CAN BE REUSED UP TO THREE (3) TIMES.
PARTS REQUIRED:
**1 05011113AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 31TH**
**1 05011114AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 42LE**
1 05011115AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 41TE/AE
POLICY: INFORMATION ONLY
POLICY: Information Only


Installation Procedure
1. With oil pan removed from transmission case for routine service or transmission repair proceed to step # 2.
2. Clean any residue from oil pan and magnet.
3. Replace O-ring and filter on bottom of valve body.
4. Using a plastic or wooden scraper, remove old RTV from transmission case rails.
CAUTION: ALUMINUM COMPONENTS ARE VERY SUSCEPTABLE TO METAL TRANSFER WHEN OLD GASKET MATERIAL IS REMOVED FROM THEM. USE EXTREME CARE WHEN CLEANING THESE COMPONENTS.
5. Apply thin coat of transmission fluid to oil pan and transmission case pan rails.
6. Orient reusable gasket properly with bolt holes and assemble oil pan and gasket to transmission case. Tighten oil pan bolts to 19 Nm (165 in lbs.).
7. Refill transmission to the proper level with MOPAR ATF + 3 Type 7176, p/n 05010124AA, or MOPAR ATF +4 Type 9602, p/n 05013457AA, for 1999 JA/LH/PR vehicles.
CAUTION: DO NOT OVERFILL TRANSAXLE. DO NOT ADD OIL IF LEVEL IS BETWEEN: LOWER HOLES FOR WARM OIL (100F). UPPER HOLES FOR HOT OIL (180F.).

Carols Dodge
04-04-2006, 06:57 PM
Troy 1 wrote: Has your tranny everbeen overhauled that you know of? You dont see much of leaking pans/sidecovers from the factory they use a good sealant. It is possible the diff is out which is very common on front wheel drive chryslers."

Hi Troy! Thanks for your reply, it is appreciated. See this is where I made my mistake, and I have learned my lesson. When I took it in to the oil change place, they told me that it was leaking transmission fluid from the pan so I had them do that work.....as I stated....lesson learned, I thought I was doing the right thing..shame on me for that one. Well after the pan was R/R this is when the Computer solenoid that controls the shifting of the transmission started to leak. My thinking is that when this solenoid leak, it dripped just right and it slide down its merry way to make it appear as if the transpan gasket needed to be replaced. Now I can say that when the transpan gasket was replaced that there was no metal in the pan (I was told if there was metal in there it was bad).

You mention overhaul. The only times this transmission has been touched.

2002 when Chrysler took out the old transmission and put in a new transmission put the buy back agreement. (so when I got the vehicle...I am the second owner I had a warranty on the trans).

Trans pan gasket replaced at Pennzoil oil change place.

Trans pan gasket replaced a week later because Pennzoil used in correct gasket.

Transmission computer solenoid replaced. (this is the part that goes out on the dodge caravans that I mentioned earlier).

Van back into the shop because it is leaking transmission fluid about quarter size. Was told it was one of the screws for the transmission computer solenoid.

Van back into the shop, supposely leak has been traced to teh differential front cover, and one of the two(??) transmission cooler hoses that there is a slight crack in one of them.

I have been keeping a eye on the transmission fluid on a daily basis because of the distance that is driven for work. Since this has all been going on about two months now, I have only had to put 1/4 of a bottle in the transmission. Van is driven 4 out of 7 days.

Carols Dodge

Carols Dodge
04-04-2006, 07:16 PM
SteveO, Thanks for your reply, again it is really appreciated, especially the picture of the differential cover. Pictures are good, makes sense on what I am looking at and all that stuff. Would you have any pics of the trans cooler hoses?

You gave me directions for R/R transpan, again very much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong please, but the directions for the transpan is for where the fluid is collected at the bottom of the van which is the photo that any post reply sent right?

Or was the directions for the R/R of the differential cover? I see that there are many screws, is there a certain order they should be removed and then put back in? If directions were not for differential cover would you have directions for that and the transcooler hoses?

If I can get details step by step directions on these two issues then I would be off to excellent start, go get the parts and then get this worked on. My daddy was right he should of made me take auto mechanic class, but I refused, now I am learning the hard way...lol. Whatever help you can provide, directions, pics, step by step instructions of how to address these two it would be great.

I do have another question though. Anyone know about this computer soleniod for the transmission and have it replaced? I am wondering if all of this headahce, is still the screw for the solenoid pak and if maybe there was a hole size difference between original verison and the replacement that was put on.

RIP, thanks for your input on this issue as well. I am going to continue to watch this thing and baby it until I get the parts in. Then I am going to march myself to my next door neighbor and see if he can do it for me since he works on cars.....but getting with his schedule is hard with his work and full time job and see if he can show me how to do this so I can do it myself without having someone else do it for me.

Carols Dodge

Stevo2
04-05-2006, 01:43 AM
SteveO, Thanks for your reply, again it is really appreciated, especially the picture of the differential cover. Pictures are good, makes sense on what I am looking at and all that stuff. Would you have any pics of the trans cooler hoses?
I'll see what I can find.

You gave me directions for R/R transpan, again very much appreciated. Correct me if I am wrong please, but the directions for the transpan is for where the fluid is collected at the bottom of the van which is the photo that any post reply sent right?
You are correct.

Or was the directions for the R/R of the differential cover? I see that there are many screws, is there a certain order they should be removed and then put back in? If directions were not for differential cover would you have directions for that and the transcooler hoses?
I don't have any specific directions for the diff cover R&R as that must be in the big Factory Service Manual or it's just part of the diff rebuild procedure. I'll look some more.

HeadlessHorseman
04-23-2006, 07:40 AM
HeadlessHorseman - Just want to let you know, a bead of RTV on the trans pan really does work if done correctly. Several years ago I had fluid collecting on top of the trans then running down the side creating a puddle. I couldn't see much under there so I figured fluid was coming out a phantom top side breather port caused by a clogged filter. So I changed the filter and used the supplied gasket. It leaked like a siv. I hauled out my Haynes manual and to my great suprise it didn't mention a pan gasket at all. Just a bead of RTV. I called the dealer to verify and was told normally they use a gasket but you can use RTV alone. I applied the RTV, installed the pan, and let it harden overnight. Next day I filled it with fluid and it hasn't leaked to this day. >>> Thanks again for all the great info you've passed on to us. I've avoided many headaches thanks to you.

If you're wondering, the fluid collecting on top was caused by a leaking forward pump o ring packing. Fluid would leak past the o ring, get flung up to and through the crankshaft position sensor by the torque converter, and puddle on top of the case. If interested here's the original thread:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=201436

Carols Dodge - The above original leak went on for about 4 years. I would just top it off. The top off got to be a quart a week so I finally peeled my wallet open and got it fixed for $700 at a local shop. Topping off can work if you have the patients to religously check the fluid level. The leaking hoses however, are an issue you should fix pronto. Cheers!I learn several new things every day. Thanks RIP for sharing your experiences. I've heard from many others that RTV is a perfectly acceptable method for sealing tranny pans, but here's the thing... my leak was definitely caused by fluid getting by the RTV (and maybe bolts not torqued to spec when the dealer replaced my tranny last time?). I have to wonder that if RTV was OK, why would Chrysler make a $40 gasket (reuseable three times)? I installed Chrysler's gasket after I dropped the pan and, at least so far, not had any leakage at all.

Having torn down and rebuilt a dozen or so cars over the past 30+ years, I have learned many workarounds. But having paid for two new trannies over the past 229,000 miles in my GC LE, for me, I am a little afraid to stray far from "standard procedures," especially when it concerns what I perceive to be less-than-perfectly designed Chrysler mini-van trannies.

HeadlessHorseman
04-23-2006, 07:54 AM
A few more tidbits...

A/T Pan Gasket - Reusable Design/Installation
NUMBER: 21-05-99 Rev. A
GROUP: Transmission
DATE: Sep. 03, 1999
THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 21-05-99 DATED MARCH 5, 1999 WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARTS AND MODEL COVERAGE.
SUBJECT:
Reusable Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin announces availability and installation of a reusable automatic transmission oil pan gasket.
MODELS:
1989 - 1995 (AA) Spirit/Acclaim/LeBaron Sedan
1989 - 1993 (AC) Dynasty/New Yorker/New Yorker Salon
**1989** - 1993 (AG) Daytona
**1989** - 1995 (AJ) LeBaron Coupe/LeBaron Convertible
**1989** - 1994 (AP) Shadow/Shadow Convertible/Sundance
1990 - 1991 (AQ) Chrysler Maserati TC
1989 - 1995 (AS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
1990 - 1993 (AY) Imperial/New Yorker Fifth Avenue
1993 - 1995 (ES) Chrysler Voyager (European Market)
1995 - **2000** (FJ) Sebring/Avenger/Talon
1996 - **2000** (GS) Chrysler Voyager (European Market)
1995 - **2000** (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze
1996 - **2000** (JX) Sebring Convertible
**1993 - 2000 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/New Yorker/LHS/Vision/300M**
1996 - **2000** (NS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager
**1995 - 2000 (PL) Neon**
**1997 - 2000 (PR) Prowler**
DISCUSSION:
A reusable silicone gasket has been developed to replace the RTV method of sealing the automatic transmission oil pan. Due to more frequent Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) change intervals and the possibility of the fluid foaming if it comes in contact with uncured RTV it is recommended that this gasket be used in all applications.
NOTE: THIS GASKET CAN BE REUSED UP TO THREE (3) TIMES.
PARTS REQUIRED:
**1 05011113AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 31TH**
**1 05011114AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 42LE**
1 05011115AA Gasket, Transmission Oil Pan, 41TE/AE
POLICY: INFORMATION ONLY
POLICY: Information Only


Installation Procedure
1. With oil pan removed from transmission case for routine service or transmission repair proceed to step # 2.
2. Clean any residue from oil pan and magnet.
3. Replace O-ring and filter on bottom of valve body.
4. Using a plastic or wooden scraper, remove old RTV from transmission case rails.
CAUTION: ALUMINUM COMPONENTS ARE VERY SUSCEPTABLE TO METAL TRANSFER WHEN OLD GASKET MATERIAL IS REMOVED FROM THEM. USE EXTREME CARE WHEN CLEANING THESE COMPONENTS.
5. Apply thin coat of transmission fluid to oil pan and transmission case pan rails.
6. Orient reusable gasket properly with bolt holes and assemble oil pan and gasket to transmission case. Tighten oil pan bolts to 19 Nm (165 in lbs.).
7. Refill transmission to the proper level with MOPAR ATF + 3 Type 7176, p/n 05010124AA, or MOPAR ATF +4 Type 9602, p/n 05013457AA, for 1999 JA/LH/PR vehicles.
CAUTION: DO NOT OVERFILL TRANSAXLE. DO NOT ADD OIL IF LEVEL IS BETWEEN: LOWER HOLES FOR WARM OIL (100°F). UPPER HOLES FOR HOT OIL (180°F.).Thanks Stevo2 for the info. Now I know why the gasket is recommended (instead of RTV). I also noticed that your document states that bolts should be torqued to 165in.lbs. My Haynes manusl says 150in.lbs. Where did you get your data? I like your source better than mine. Thanks, in advance.

wafrederick
04-23-2006, 01:20 PM
The soleniod pack is known for leaking.Most transmission part places such as D&E,etc sell the soleniod pack for less.

RIP
04-23-2006, 01:41 PM
I learn several new things every day. Thanks RIP for sharing your experiences. I've heard from many others that RTV is a perfectly acceptable method for sealing tranny pans, but here's the thing... my leak was definitely caused by fluid getting by the RTV (and maybe bolts not torqued to spec when the dealer replaced my tranny last time?). I have to wonder that if RTV was OK, why would Chrysler make a $40 gasket (reuseable three times)? I installed Chrysler's gasket after I dropped the pan and, at least so far, not had any leakage at all.

Having torn down and rebuilt a dozen or so cars over the past 30+ years, I have learned many workarounds. But having paid for two new trannies over the past 229,000 miles in my GC LE, for me, I am a little afraid to stray far from "standard procedures," especially when it concerns what I perceive to be less-than-perfectly designed Chrysler mini-van trannies.

HH - Very good points. With that much tranny trouble I'd go with a gasket too. My comfort zone would be a little stressed without it. Plus there's no scraping off old RTV. I especially like your point about Chrysler making the gasket in the first place. Pretty obvious many were experiencing leaks with RTV or old style gaskets so they made a beafed up gasket. I wish they'd be that responsive to BCM and other issues.

What I'm wondering is what the "standard procedure" really is? I've only got a Haynes manual and it says nothing about using a gasket. It just says to apply a 1/8 inch bead of RTV. A dealership told me I can use either. And now I see Ion's pictures of the rebuild of a 604 TE tranny (22 Apr this forum) by experienced techs at a tranny shop (appears so anyway). I don't see a pan gasket, just RTV. Do the factory manuals specify using a gasket?

In the future, if I was planning on keeping a car, I'd spend the extra bucks and use a reusable gasket just for the fact alone you don't have to scrape old RTV off. It's a big PITA!! By the way, I do my annual fluid change by sucking 3 quarts out the fill tube with a pump to avoid dropping the pan. About every 4-5 years I do the whole shabang. :cheers:

Carols Dodge - I appologize for hijacking your thread. Hope things are looking up

Jack Atherton
03-25-2010, 04:53 PM
The reusable gasket mentioned earlier in this thread fits the A604-41te transmission in a 2002 Dodge stratus.

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