MAN!! from wut be hearing and readin, Can stock Sentra SER Spec-v's really burn Acura RSX type-s and more cars... i get it if they have like cold air intakes and more but, STOCKED Spec-v's killing RSX's, 240's, and more, can this be true?!!?

I'm sure with a few mods they could take those cars (SCC said Spec Vs can get double digit gains out of some basic mods)...

Spec Vs and RSXs (base model) have about the same advertised hp (I think) With a good driver in the Spec V it could probably take em...

*shrugs*

-Grendel

i've heard that specs can beat rsx-s, but i've never done it b4....i raced against one but he supposedly had NOS, so he cheated, he smoked my ass

well, i can tell you from experience that a stock spec v can beat a type s rsx. i did it. and he was modded. i'm sure he had intake cuz i heard it. and i am bone stock. and i beat him by a car length. so it is possible. think about it dude......a type s has 200 horse and only 142 torque. we have 175 horse and 180 torque. and the rsx is a heavier car. they only have us by 25 horse while we have them by 40 torque. and thats what makes the difference. they might hop us off the line, but once we reach 2nd and 3rd gear....there's no competition. we start pullin away. :D :D i love it.....a 4 door family car woopin on a sports car....its so fun.

Yeh check out the Kill List thread. You'll see the people who have beaten them. I had it be quit a bit i thought that it would be closer guess not.
Our cars are suprising.

i thought we would take off from the line since we got the torque and more low end power than the rsx-s?

Let me just throooooooooooow my 2cents in this one as well. I too can tell you from experience. I ran one about two weeks ago and I beat by at least a car. He had me alittle bit off the line but once that second gear was hit I just started to pull on him so bad and so on and so on. Think about it.
SpecV 180hp... 180lbs torque
RSX TypeS 200hp.....142lbs torque
That's practically even...in my opinion the specVs should win that one like I did or it should real close.
But the answer to your question is yes, A stock SpecV can beat a stock RSX TypeS or at least hang right there with one.:alien:

Yeh, i already beat 2 of them. Not that impressive for 200 horse. Both times i had them the hole race but it was definitly the most fun race i had im sure of that cause there suppose to be faster.

And i hear somthin about a rsx type-r with 220 horses anyone hear bout that ?

the only encounter with an rsx-s is when i lost and i was suprised as hell :eek: anyway, i knew he cheated cuz he was squeezin cuz i was pulling the whole way and then he suddenly passes me up like nothing, bastard!! :flipa: :flipa:

Good job guys. What were your times?

Regards,
Spotovi

I don't have times when i do it on a street

This information is very good to know since i was lookin at both the spec-v and an rsx type s, i was leaning toward the type s when i stumbled across these forums and wanted to see wat real owners thought.
Also the spec-v is probably beating the rsx because the rsx has less hp then advertised.
Check out magnaflow.com, and look and cat-back ystems for the type s and it will how it actual hp.
thanx for all the info guys

well, i haven't looked at the site, but its probably giving wheel horsepower. which is always about 25-30 horse less than the hp at the crank. for instance the spec v is rated at 175 horse, but when dynoed with an injen cai, it had 149 horse. while before the intake it had 142, which is about 30 horse less than the advertised 175. so whenever you hear the horsepower advertised from a dealer its always power to the crank not the wheels. just thought i'd throw in my .02

Yeah, those v-specs are baaad!! Every time I let off the gas pedal one catches up to me in my GLI!!!
:finger:

What ever u say dude, but i haven't raceed ur car yet or heard much about it , but I wouldn't brag...201Hp isn't that much for a V6 and I bet u paid a crap load more for it.....so what ever....U done f*ked UP.......Come on wit IT.........:flipa:

Originally posted by TeamJxticSpecV
What ever u say dude, but i haven't raceed ur car yet or heard much about it , but I wouldn't brag...201Hp isn't that much for a V6 and I bet u paid a crap load more for it.....so what ever....U done f*ked UP.......Come on wit IT.........:flipa:

Ahh, the torque is what lets a Jetta GLI run away from a V-spec Sentra, at any starting speed! Yes, it is alot more $$$, but you get what you pay for (econo-box or German autobaun breeding). Fair warning, steer clear if you see a Jettas with the twin chrome pipes under the rear bumper, they will embarass you!!

Yeah, lets talk about that "German autobaun breeding". How old is your car? Had any electrical problems yet? Just wait, you will. VW is NOTORIOUS for having window and sunroof problems. Won't be long until you are standing in line with about 4 or 5 other guys on a monday morning waiting for the dealer to open so you can have your window regulator replaced.

How about interior trim? Looks real sharp. Feels rich too. And it should for the cost. But wait until the rattles start. You will definately get one in that big flat dash of yours.

You must be pretty thick if you think you really have us outpowered THAT much. There is a little thing know as power to weight. Your car is a whale man. What's your curb weight? You even know without looking in the manual?

I don't know. Don't you other V owners think maybe this guy is a little sore? Maybe he is pissed that a 17K car spanked his precious "German autobaun bred" 26K car.

Quit hating man. Makes you look really sore about being beat!

I'm not normally one for trash talking, but....

So you dished out $23,500+ for the German red-headed step-child. Sorry but VW doesn't hold a candle to BMW or Mercedes, so to claim German Autobahn engineering...etc... is a load of crap.

Don't start talking about Torque. Your big fancy V6 puts down 195 foot pounds to move a 3200 lb car. Our little 4 cyl puts down 180 to move a 2800 lb car. Which is better?

So let's talk about the almighty dollar. So we both start out with $23,500. I paid $16,700 for my Spec V. For less than $18,000 total, I can put in a CAI, Headers, and Exhaust. Then we'll see who's faster. But wait... stay tuned... For another $3950, I can put in a complete turbo system to get me to 275 whp. Then, I destroy you. Not only do I make you look foolish, but I have $1500 left over to loan you when your VW breaks down.

So, who's got the better car now? And don't tell me that money doesn't matter... cause if it didn't I would kick your arse with my Skyline GT-R.

Any more trash to talk?

LOL :hehehe:
well done GB Phoenix 77..

any more people would care to comment on Murco's criticism
:dogpile:

supposededly that ur Camaro can beat a GT-R....I don't know about that. I think that u is just a big azz Loserz....U think u are so koo cuz u got an import......but ur not.......and by the way not to hate on honda but a spec V can take like every honda except maybe a prelude or a RSX - type S.....So enough hat'n and just go back to ur VW forum and continue to be a Loserz.

GB Phonex 77,

What do u know about a turbo for 4K that will get 275 whp!!!

Laterz
John.............Come on WIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TeamJxticSpecV:
There is a guy down in New Orleans who owns a company called Forced Induction Racing. He is the pioneer in Turbo Systems for the Sentra... and Spec V especially. He's got SR20 kits available now, and QR25 kits available in a month or so. He will have QG18 kits available down the road.
There are two kits for the Spec. Scroll down to the bottom of this link to see the parts included, and the HP expected, and the price.

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=32998

The SE-R Spec-V is the little brother of the Skyline.
No car should smack the Skyline around. Skyline is the KING of the road. Come on, all-wheel-drive on the Skyline and it is not an off-road car. Dude, it's an 80's car , I love the 80's.:sun:

Thanks for the info. I've been hearing about this travis guy for a while now wounder how good his design is, hope that someone doesn't blow an engine or something. Any way I read in some mag. that the QR25 can only take about 250 whp before the cams break. Wounder if any thing like cam, pistons, and rods, ect are gonna be available. Just something to look in to, cuz next year I was looking to get some kind of forced induction turbo or supercharger. But thanks again for the info..

John...

Wassuppppp
I saw the link for those turbo kits. Man..... that's some serious azz power especially considering all the torque that our cars come with. I'm not gonna lie bro's, I had a turbo chaged Jetta GT and it didn't work right at all. I know it had to be installed wrong, etc... etc... But you guys have no idea how much of a nightmare that car was to me. All the time I had to come up with money just to keep the damn running. I'm not messin with turbo until like my warranty is up or if someone can really convince me that it will be alright, because I'm scared that it will happen again. Luckly one of my boys who buys cars all the time and then just sells them later bought my Jetta. If he had never bought Jetta, that's what I would be driving right now. :( But I got the SpecV and I have never been more happier. All right enough with all the sad ishhh. My point is Guys, if you decided to go TURBO or SUPERCHARGER, just be really careful and make sure that it's installed correctly so that you won't have to go through what I did for about an entire year. Peace:alien:

Any way I read in some mag. that the QR25 can only take about 250 whp before the cams break.

The CAMS break??!?? I heard we have weak valve springs, but I never thought the cams would just break...:uhoh:

Originally posted by LiquidSilverSpecV
I don't know. Don't you other V owners think maybe this guy is a little sore? Maybe he is pissed that a 17K car spanked his precious "German autobaun bred" 26K car.

Quit hating man. Makes you look really sore about being beat!
ANYONE on this board within 300 miles of Tampa Bay Florida care to "beat" me?? Anytime, anywhere, any spec-V, anyone. Put-up or shut-up....
You must be pretty thick if you think you really have us outpowered THAT much. There is a little thing know as power to weight. Your car is a whale man. What's your curb weight? You even know without looking in the manual?
Oh yes, you rice drivers are ever so knowledgable about cars. How many times have I had some ricer at my parts counter, driving an econobox with a huge, noisy tailpipe on it, who had no clue about how to fix the most minor problem on the car.
My car weighs about 3,000 pounds and develops over 180 lb of torque between 2K and 6K RPM, not in just a short, peaky power-band. The power is ALWAYS there in any gear at any speed.
BTW - My car cost me 22K out the door, has no sunroof, leather, or extra gizmos for extra weight. And if the window regulators fail, not only are they warrantied by VW for 4yrs/50K miles, but I can fix them myself if nessessary! Have you priced a pick-up coil for your car?? Get rid of it by warranties end, cause that regularly-failing-part costs over $300 and is back-ordered 4 months!

Murco, this sort of challenge would be much more appropriate in the Street Racing (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=550) forum.

Originally posted by jay@af
Murco, this sort of challenge would be much more appropriate in the Street Racing (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=550) forum.
Nope, dragstrip only....I want timeslips!!

That's somewhat contrary to your "anytime, anywhere" remark, but i'll simply refer you to the Drag Racing (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/f650/) forum. :rolleyes:

:eek: before i bought the spec-v, the only other car i have had was a mustang gt. dont get me wrong, but i absolutly loved that car. it smoked most of the imports around. i decided i wanted to try something different. so i went searching for something import wise. i searched 5-6 different dealerships untill i ended up at nissan. i told the salesmen i want something quick, reliable, and manual. he then mentioned a sentra. iv never haerd of the spev-v, so the first thing i thought was, a sentra, i dont want a sentra. he showed it to me, i was like no, looks more like a family car to me. after he told me that it would keep up wit the mustang, i just had to try it out. i liked the inside. nice-n-sporty. it was an 02' and the previous owner had put a performance muffler on it. and removed theemblems from the grill, from the minute i pulled it off of the lot, i couldent believe how quick it was. the 6 speed shifter just locked into place, the clutch was light, tight suspention made it hug the cuves smoothly. this car was a +. the minute we got back to the lot i asked for the papers and the trade in for my mustang. i heard yall talking about price range around $16-$17000, i guess i got ripped off, i paid $20000, never made a better choice though. im still gettin used to the front wheel drive though, when accelerating i tend to be all over the road. and the gear ratio is way different, still skippen gears. this is my 3rd day with it. still dont know much about the engine yet. what would be the best thing to add first, to help out the horsepower, i was thinkin intake, still not sure. but, if anyone has any info about the spev-v , id appriciate it, thanx

An intake is generally the first mod people do. There are a lot of mods you can do to the spec. Hopefully the first owner treated her nicely on the breakin, but just to be safe make sure you watch the oil levels. As far as mods go, intake, header, exhaust, pulley, there are a lot of suspension parts out there. http://www.b15sentra.net/partsmall.php that is a nice site with just about everything out there for your car.

what ive heard is that the first driver didnt run it to hard, but then one of my friends said the he has raced it before. so im really not to sure. but it runs nice and everything, but when i drive im always hard on the gas, and whenever i shut the car off, the engine makes this loud ticking noise like iv been runnin it for hours, im not sure if thats normal but my mustang never made that kind of noise

"I'm your huckleberry"

i sent him n e-mail and no response i live in Boca thats less than 300 miles from Tampa

the race is for 500 dollars
a basestripped turbo 4 weigh in at 3050 your vr6 is heavier about 3100 stripped.. so much for superior german Autobahn crap..the Sentra in Qestion Mine is sweet.. will make your Jetta look like the grocery getter it is.. i also for fun checked R&T times .. man they are within .20 seconds of each other Now considering that a 4 is harder to ring out a good time than a 6 i'd say stock thats a drivers race
and poor Murco ya see that 6 speed the Sentra has . smooth slick keepthe spec v right in the peak power band.. since its a race and not a punch it in 4th at 40 and see what happens.. i'd sa you bit off much more than you can chew.. hell my Lt4 converted Buck roadmaster turns low to mid 13's that would put you about 1.5 seconds easily behing it and it weighs 4400lbs..

So just e mail me bigmouth.. and i'll take your money.. or if you feel you need to bring another car down.. i have one car for every one of yours.

did you know your car slaloms at 61 mph and g's a.79.. not even close to a Spec v and braking is a joke.. so which s the real car huh.. cat got your tongue.. YOUR Challange has been called.. I'm avalable al the time so no excuses.. you drive if you by a stroke of God win i'll pay for gas wear and tear along with the 5 large

Good luck your gonna need it
hell i'll tell you what i'll race with my nephew in the car.. hows that..and disconnct a cylinder...j/k

you've been called out Johnny

Originally posted by SER Speedalot
well, i can tell you from experience that a stock spec v can beat a type s rsx. i did it. and he was modded. i'm sure he had intake cuz i heard it. and i am bone stock. and i beat him by a car length. so it is possible. think about it dude......a type s has 200 horse and only 142 torque. we have 175 horse and 180 torque. and the rsx is a heavier car. they only have us by 25 horse while we have them by 40 torque. and thats what makes the difference. they might hop us off the line, but once we reach 2nd and 3rd gear....there's no competition. we start pullin away. :D :D i love it.....a 4 door family car woopin on a sports car....its so fun. I think a sentra se-r is not a 4 door family car. A close friend has a SE-R and its pretty compact for a 4 door. I have a 4 door family car lol. With a spec v vs. the type s it all comes down to the driver. U gotta remember that honda and acura engines are very difficult to drive since they have high horsepower and little torque. They have to shift at very high rpms to have very good times. Nissan engines have alot of torque all through the power bands meaning we dont have to shift as high as acuras and toyotas. Another friend of mine has the new 03 matrix xrs same engine as a celica gts and he only managed a 17.4 .....

All i'll say is this.. my Nephewbought a Blue Spec v and although only 17 i di help hip.. we put in a short ram intake, $50
a highflow cat ( free cat) install was $30 and a Univeral Thermal Exhaust ( JC whitneys $49 plus another $20 to install.. this all seems minor ..right? wrong that engine is a big 4 and needs to breathe which is apparent since now he is beating everything in his class RSX-S Is300 5speed Golf 1.8T yes BEATING, Civic Si's i have set him up with a race against a stock Srt4 and expect him to at very least hang with a 2.4 (big) turbo

the damn thing just needed to a few hundred cfmin and out more than stock and it woke up

I think you guys nee to wake up.. the car tested extremely well in many mags for a reason.. its an overall performer..and contrary to what has been said untill you sit in one and drive it the interior exterio stereo everything is well above par for its 16,500 list price.. i chaLLnge anyone to find a better car overall for that price brand new.. and just what 50 dolars in mild mods and it not only performs better in straightline has that growl of a predatory car.. it is.. you'll see try one that been tweeked and you'll fully understand.. take it on in a windng race and you really be shocked

Originally posted by Spyk

I think you guys nee to wake up.. the car tested extremely well in many mags for a reason.. its an overall performer..and contrary to what has been said untill you sit in one and drive it the interior exterio stereo everything is well above par for its 16,500 list price.. i chaLLnge anyone to find a better car overall for that price brand new.. and just what 50 dolars in mild mods and it not only performs better in straightline has that growl of a predatory car.. it is.. you'll see try one that been tweeked and you'll fully understand.. take it on in a windng race and you really be shocked

one word, srt-4 (it is a little more than the spec, but for that price difference you get so much more)

You think your nephew will hang with an srt with those mods!?!? Think again. With those he should run maybe a 14.8 at the very very best. Srt's are running high 13's stock. Your nephew will he his ass handed to him, unless the Dodge driver doesn't know the first thing about driving a manual. Just to let you know, the srt-4's are dynoing around 235hp to the wheels, vs the spec-v's 145....they are the best bang for the buck right now. When the spec first came out it was, but now it has to step down to #2.

I agree.. The srt-4 will be the best bang for the buck as far as HP/$$ goes. Stock for Stock.. no way a Spec V can keep up with a srt-4.

But on the other hand.. it's still a neon... :rolleyes:

all that I have to say is I love my sentra. Granted it's the shitty ass 1.6L 94 with min. mods. But I have smoked so many cars with it. Including a brand new rally sport Lancer and every DX and EX civic. Nissan make's some of the best engine's and most reliable cars around. Their V6 engines were rated some of the best V6 engines ever made...(Car and Driver) Plus they are pretty much dirt cheap considering what you get out of them. I have 135k miles and my car has never given me a problem. But big plans are in store for my baby. Half way there, saving up for an SR20DET I'll fuckin rip every V8 around a new asshole.....haha One more year of college and I will have my dream car....a skyline, or a silvia. Just depends on how much cash I have. But to all you fellow Nissan owners keep it real. NISMO for life.

That's right dawgs, torque is one bad ass aminal if you can get alot of it at the wheel.

However, if you are talking about who would get off the line quicker between the RSX-S and the Spec-V, more torque will always get you off the line faster from a dead stop. if it doesn't then there is probably an issue with driver method.

My last half dozen races were freeway roll-on power from 55 mph. Even then the guy with the high torque numbers will always burn ya given that we are talkin nearly equal driving skills.

Thats the joke about cars with the step type cams. In order to have any power, you got to thrash the motor to redline in every gear where as strong low-end torque gives you ass-kicken power all over the rev band.

Ahh..what do I know. It's just an obsession.

Peace :sly:

THEDAVIDMAN (AKA-fretburn)

Actually.. in most cases.. a Spec V will NOT beat a Type-S. The QR25DE in the Spec V is very inconsistent though. It has a problem with the knock sensor being too sensative.. which retards the timing up to 8 degrees! This can realy put a damper on it's power output. The problem lies in that the sensor picks up regular engine noises (valvetrain noise, vibration.. etc), as knock.. and retards the timing dramatically. So, unless you relocate the sensor off of the block, and reground it with a wire.. you will have a very inconsistent car. With that said.. I've seen stock Spec V's run anywhere from 15.00-15.80. I know that a Type-S can run 14.80's with a good driver. But, I've also seen them run from that to about 15.50's.. It's realy a driver's race if the cars are running up to par. I've got a Spec V that NO stock RSX will touch.. ;)
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