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Advice (Wait for NISMO parts or get an ezhaust and intake now)


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zane11
06-21-2002, 03:23 PM
I don't no what to do. I don't wanna waste money on a cat black exhaust and an AEM CAI intake if NISMO is gonna have much better stuff.

My I have your advice

pinyoot4you
06-21-2002, 04:18 PM
from the research i have been doin..... i THINK that nismo will have the same gains, the only difference is that it won't void the warranty, and they slap that nice name NISMO.....besides, it's not the original nismo anyways becuz the real nismo is in Japan and they don't have sentra se-r's over there....this is from i think, i'm just giving u my perspective...don't take my word for it..just hear wut other people say also

GB Phoenix77
06-21-2002, 07:41 PM
None of this is backed up by fact, but here is my opinion and guesses, and advice....

I am waiting for one of two things to happen before I put performance upgrades on my car.
1.) Nismo brings out parts (Warrantied or garaunteed to not void waranty on engine)
2.) My factory warranty expires.

I am not wealthy enough to risk anything right now. If something goes wrong during my warranty period, I need the warranty to pay for it. Especially with a brand new product like the QR25 engine in my Spec V.

Here's the thing about the "NISMO" parts. I don't think they are going to be actual original NISMO parts. Nismo isn't in North America. They don't make Sentra in Japan. What they will do is market parts under the NISMO name here in the US and Canada. They will probably go to AEM or Injen and buy their CAI's and slap a new paint job and the NISMO logo on it. They will go to Hotshot and buy their header and paint a powder coat on it and a NISMO logo. Then they will add 30% to the price and sell it through the Nissan Catalog and dealerships.

The thing is, I will actually bend over for this deal, because Nissan dealerships will have to back the product. The value of their warranty is high for me.

So here's my take on NISMO parts. If you value your warranty, or the brand name NISMO, wait until NISMO comes out. If you just want the performance, and are willing to risk issues, or trying to trick the dealership if you do have a problem, then go for the current stuff. Also, if you budget is limited, or you are impatient, buy the current stuff.

The decision is yours.

zane11
06-21-2002, 11:29 PM
Yeh I am very impatient, but Nismo going through nissan and not causing problems with the warrenty sounds great.

Does anyone know exactly how soon Nismo is coming ???

pinyoot4you
06-22-2002, 04:16 AM
there's a ghetto way of doing this, lol, if something goes wrong with ur car, just replace all the aftermarket parts to the OEM parts urself....and they say they're commin out fall of this year...but u kno how some companies lag

zane11
06-22-2002, 10:08 AM
Yeh you cant trust those companies, that would be great if Nismo came out earlier than expected.

But I still don't no what to do. The performance won't change from the after market parts now compared to Nismo will they?

GB Phoenix77
06-22-2002, 10:21 AM
I don't think the performance will be very different between the current brand of perf. upgrades, and the NISMO stuff that comes out.

Like I said, I think they will basically be the same part, only a different paint and logo. They may tweek a little bit, just so people don't find out that NISMO CAI's are the same product as AEM CAI's. They might opt for a slight improvement, just to back their brand name, but I don't think the improvement would justify the price. Example... if the CAI from AEM gives an 8hp improvement, the NISMO would probably use a slightly bigger piping to give 9 hp. But, it stilll wouldn't be an original NISMO design.

As far as release date.... My guess is this: I bet they time it with a reason. I think they will wait until about 2 months after the '03 SE-R's hit the lots. Give a new set of buyers a chance to love their cars and then get them hooked. Let's say the '03's hit the lots in early Sept. I would say you would get NISMO parts near the end of Oct. That's just my guess.

zane11
06-22-2002, 10:39 AM
See after hearing all this it makes me just wanna go get the after market products right now, but Nismo doesn't affect the warrenty at all does it ?

babyskyline
06-22-2002, 12:55 PM
You guys, I totally agree with NISMO but have you guys even thought about the other companies, like HKS, GREEDY, TANABE, ETC.... I don't know if you guys know this but BLITZ AND JUN are planning on making parts for our cars as well. I personally emailed GREEDY and they told that they are gonna make cat-backs for the new ALTIMA and the NEW SENTRA'S. So you guys keep your options open. I mean I can't promise you how soon but it will happen. Trust me when I tell you this guys, this car is gonna blow up, by this time next year you watch how stuff is made for the SpecV's. I am not one who is patient either but I am only putting the best in my car.:alien:

zane11
06-22-2002, 12:59 PM
Yeh i no that all these other companies are making parts for our cars just wish i wasnt so impatient. i want performance as soon as possible haha.

muphasta
06-24-2002, 10:22 AM
You guys already have performance!!! We have one of the hottest under 20k cars out there!!!

Imagine if you were a Si owner! Then you'd have to put aftermarket stuff on, just to get to our base line!!!

I too am waiting for Nismo. Then I will decide if I really want to do the performance upgrades.

All this talk of 8-10 hp per mod, what does that actually equate to in 1/4 mile time? 0-60 time? Is it really worth the couple of grand for the mods (and installation) for .20 of a second?

If it is more than that, I think I will eventually mod my car. But I am an old man, who needs to buy a house, and start having kids. . .

sorry, I went off on a tangent!

Bring on the Nismo parts!!!!

SilverSpec-V
06-24-2002, 12:48 PM
installing the CAI won't cause much damage to our cars, right? I am replacing my intake and plann to wait for nismo for the rest of the mods.

pinyoot4you
06-24-2002, 03:17 PM
see muphasta, there's a difference between u and me....i'm only 21 and i got more than enough money to deal with.... so what should i do with the money? buy car parts, hehe busides it different car parts adds up on the hp....and if ur waiting for nismo it'll cost 20-30% more than other name brands....i dunno y people is excited about nismo when they just use the same parts and slap the nismo logo on it.. sure it won't void the warrenty, but wut if ur car is running perfect after the warrenty is over? then it's just a waste of money, IMO.....



Adding a CAI to ur car won't cause no dammage at all, except when u gotta make a bigger hole for the piping, just be sure to clean ur filter every other month... it sucks up a lot of dirt since it's down there

GB Phoenix77
06-25-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by SilverSpec-V
installing the CAI won't cause much damage to our cars, right? I am replacing my intake and plann to wait for nismo for the rest of the mods.


The only danger that I am aware of from CAI's is the chance that you might draw water into the engine. That would cause some pretty major problems. The advice is... don't drive through really deep puddles. Obviously you wouldn't do that anyway, so no biggie. I also think I would remove the CAI during the winter months... not sure what snow would do?

muphasta
06-25-2002, 05:07 PM
Piny,
Oh to be young and care free!!! I would love to be able to blow all my money on anything and everything!

At least with you spending money on a car, you'll have something to show for it. I drank $20k worth of beer in 2 years when I was in Germany. I could have paid cash for a specV, and had lots left for mods! Oh well!

zane11
06-26-2002, 05:13 PM
20k is alot of beer


And i made up my mind (i think). I'm going to get a exhaust system and the cai before Nismo. But with those cai do you also need to by somthing to keep the water away from them ?

muphasta
06-26-2002, 05:18 PM
From what I have read, the filter is out of harms way unless it is in the most extreme of conditions.

Like driving through flood waters.

zane11
06-26-2002, 05:20 PM
Oh I see. What about winter, I think I'd get one to play it safe.

pinyoot4you
06-28-2002, 01:59 AM
yea, just be careful with really deep puddles, AEM has a bypass valve that u can get so u won't get water in the throttle body, but u won't have optimum performance with the CAI, i don't kno about winter/snow conditions, we don't get snow at all here at SoCal, except on the mountains

zane11
06-28-2002, 09:47 AM
By optimum performance , is that a noticable defference.
If anyone else no's about the winter conditions it would be nice to know.
And how much is that bypass.

pinyoot4you
06-28-2002, 02:58 PM
it won't be obvious at all, just lose like 1 hp and a couple of torque, no biggie, and the bypass valve ranges from 30-50 bucks, i think optauto.com (http://www.optauto.com) is the cheapest, i think it's $30.... don't go to the AEM website, they are selling it for $50,

zane11
06-28-2002, 06:26 PM
Aight appreciate the advice and information.

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