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Psman32@af
02-10-2001, 07:09 PM
HA HA I get to do the inagural post.
I love this car. My dad has a 1997 Lincoln Towncar. I'm not sure how to describe the color because it changes from where u are looking. It is a signature series, or the higher of the two trims. It has a 4.6 Liter V-8. The same is found in the Mustang. For as much as I know, all Towncars use Mustang engines. I personally have a 1989 Lincoln Towncar. It has a 5.0 Liter V-8. It has a silver/gray two tone paint with a gray canvas top. It is a cartier series which means it is the highest trim of that year. engine was rebuilt at 165,000 miles and trans was rebuilt around there as well. The car has 199,000 miles on it now. Towncars are quicker and faster than most think. I had mine at 95 mph and still in third gear out of 4. I'm not sure about 0-60 but I have beaten a few people and embarressed a Camero RS+ the other day. Well thats all for me for now.
Chris.

igor@af
02-10-2001, 07:14 PM
oh wow.
I like the new Towncars, they are big :D
and powerful too.

Psman32@af
02-10-2001, 09:06 PM
this is my dad and my own opinion. The last of the true Lincoln looks was in 1989. We both feel that after that they look more like a different divsion. The new ones arent that strong with that whimpy little 4.6 either (own opinion) The new ones also appears smaller then does my model year. Mine has an estimated 250 but I'm not sure because i don't know the compression ratio.

MaxRX7
08-04-2001, 12:14 PM
much pimpper than a Deville:smoker2:

MercCougarXR7
09-09-2001, 08:46 PM
Whats in the Camaro RS? That anemic N/A 3.8L? Well no wonder. But, I know how the panther platform performs with the 5.0. It does SOUND fast, but they are complete of the line. True, they can whip past people pretty quick in a pass, but they are by no means sports cars - even with a rebuilt 5.0L (which is rated at about 170 HP for that year).
And, while the 1991 and newer Towncars use 4.6L's, they didn't receive the mustang heads (where the power is made) until 2001 along with its cousins the Vic and Marquis. I agree that Lincoln threw away some nice lines in 1991 when they changed body styles, but you have to admit the new ones have a beautiful set of lines that are befitting of the name Lincoln. Have you guys seen the spy pics of the 2004 Town car? The thing has a HUGE hood on it, which accomodates the optional V12 :).

Heep
09-09-2001, 08:51 PM
While I was working as a mech. at a Ford dealer, one of the other mechs and I took a customer's 2000 Town Car out on the obligatory road test. Weehoo! We got the tail out on that baby so many times :D:D

enginerd
09-28-2001, 10:56 AM
A friend of mine totally pimped out his 83' Town Car. Supercharged 3.8, 3 piece wheels, shift kit. Some things I don't understand.

Psman32@af
10-24-2001, 10:19 AM
If my car didn't have the problem that all Ford 5.0 V8's did, i would defintally have done more to my car, like a new paint job, a nice dual exhaust, intake and a few other upgrades. Id get that thing up its 330 ft-lb's it has now. Too bad that it has that engine problem and its gonan die soon :(. Oh well my next car is gonna be free so im not complaining. If anyone wants me to elaborate on the engine problem, just ask.

MercCougarXR7
10-26-2001, 09:52 AM
Sure! I'd like to know what kind of problem that 'All' 5.0's have...

I know they get weak when old, but from what I've seen out of the 302 - it takes a beating before it'll blow. My brother was looking for an excuse to put a new 5.0 in his Mustang, and decided to lay a brick on the pedal and wait for it to blow. He did ruin the engine, but it did not blow. That was a funny night :D!

x5lad
01-18-2002, 10:37 AM
THE TOWN CAR IS BEAUTIFUL AND THE COLOUR U R TALKIGN ABOUT IT IS CALELD HARLEQUIN. WHICH APPEARS TO BE DIFFERENT FROM DIFFERENT SIDES (':FLASH:')

Euro19
03-10-2002, 04:16 PM
The current Town Car is nice but Iīve ride in the old one and it feels like a boat, but itīs very quiet. How are sales going for this car? I think ok.

SamDogg
03-21-2002, 05:54 PM
I'd like to know the specific engine problems that the 5.0 engines experienced?? i have a 1990 towncar signature series..i just had a whole new engine and tranny put in it and it runs like brand new..im sure it will go another 170,000 miles..it is gettin pimpped out like no other and i will keep it alive as long as i can..this is the best car they ever produced in my opiinion..the 5.0 was known for head gaskets blowing but the engine will withstand significant abuse before this occurs.............i think that puttin the 4.6 in the lincoln was a good idea because it is a lighter engine and it produces more hp..but there is nothing wrong wit a good 5.0 .....did i mention im 15??

Psman32@af
03-22-2002, 10:49 PM
Sorry i didn't respond sooner, i kinda forgot about this thread. Ok they problem is not with all 5.0's i was just not exactly happy when I heard the problem was very common. Its actually an trans problem with the AOD, the trans the 5.0's came with.

Originally posted by SamDogg
I'd like to know the specific engine problems that the 5.0 engines experienced?? i have a 1990 towncar signature series..i just had a whole new engine and tranny put in it and it runs like brand new..im sure it will go another 170,000 miles..it is gettin pimpped out like no other and i will keep it alive as long as i can..this is the best car they ever produced in my opiinion..the 5.0 was known for head gaskets blowing but the engine will withstand significant abuse before this occurs.............i think that puttin the 4.6 in the lincoln was a good idea because it is a lighter engine and it produces more hp..but there is nothing wrong wit a good 5.0 .....did i mention im 15??

The problem was the trans was putting back pressure on the engine and that destroyed the thrust washer in about 20,000 miles. This cause the whole crank to have abotu an inch of play. Because of the pressure, the crank was always pushed forward causing the counter-weights on the flywheel to hit the block and heat up the bearing. This will cause the bearings to seize and the engine to stop turning, and this would happen while driving, and it would not appear on the temp gauage.

But I disagree about the 4.6. I think that was a big mistake. They may put out more power according to Ford, but the 5.0's were underrated, that is the only way I can explain beating the cars I did. Also, the 4.6 makes nothing for torque compared to the 5.0 At the time the 89 was made, power and torque was measured at the wheels. My linocln was rated at 270 ft-lbs at the wheels. The 4.6 has that much at the crank.

MercCougarXR7
03-23-2002, 08:41 AM
It appears to me, that you have no freaking clue as to what you are talking about.

You may have seen this once as an isolated event, but for all my years of experience with Ford products using the AOD, and my knowledge of HUNDREDS of other owners of the same product, this is the FIRST time I've EVER heard of what you described.

If you say that every 20,000 miles the engines need replacing cause' the AOD tranny screws it up, I guess my 2 cars equiped with AOD's should be on their 6'th engines.

And as for the 'mistake' of the 4.6?

1 - more fuel efficient
2 - less emissions
3 - makes 235hp stock in the current panther platform (CV/GM/TC)
4 - makes over 300 ft. lbs. stock.
5 - has the ability to take SERIOUS modding.

Good Day, eh!

Psman32@af
03-27-2002, 11:54 PM
Actually, I talked to engine and tranny shop's around me and about the time my Lincoln came out, they had many Lincolns in the shops for the same problem that I had. For about half a year to a year, they had no idea why they had the problems they had. Maybe its only common around here or common to a plant that some of the parts came from that were sold here or soemthing like that. i dont know about the current 4.6 thats in the Lincoln, but I know that the 2000 and earlier models were rated at 270 ft-lbs. Also based on expierence my 89 5.0 Lincoln got just as good and most of the time better gas mileage than my dads 97 4.6 Lincoln. Based on what I've seen and from expierence, i'll take the 5.0 over the 4.6. I tend to get a little emotional when posting, I dont think it was a big mistake, but I think it would have been wiser to stay with the 5.0.

Hollywrigh
04-28-2002, 01:08 AM
I am the proud owner of a 1989 5.0 V8 TC. It has a Black Exterior and Royal Blue interior. It's got 190,000+ miles on an original engine and tranny. No I am NOT a little old lady with this car...far from it. I am a mom of 5 children who play soccer, basketball, baseball, and various other sports and so my car is always on the go, go, go...It's beaten various other "sport" cars coming off stoplights, even managed to outrun a 2000 TC..what a wimp. Now my car may be deemed a Gangster car or even the all time favorite "Pimpmobile" but I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. Everything in the instrument panel is completely digital (a pain at times), Leather interior with Pillow cushion seats, Cloth roof, and not one ping or clunk anywhere under the hood.
It gets me 13mpg in the city and about 20 on the eway depending on who is driving (hubby claims he can get 17mpg in the city but I have yet to see it and he's faster than I am on the gas pedal). It has NOT left me stranded on the side of the road unlike my Dodge or Pontiac has, so to me this "little" car of mine is a keeper.
Just my .02 cents worth..
Holly

Psman32@af
05-05-2002, 03:11 PM
Cool, glad to here of another Lincoln Owner on the Board and I'm glad to here that you are having better luck with yours than I am. Also if you ever need a new rim over the next 6 months or so, I have one that is close to new and a new tire on it too that I no longer have any use for.

Hollywrigh
05-05-2002, 10:27 PM
Hey Psman...
Where about Detroit are you located?? I am in the Waterford area..just slightly North of Detroit..
I see your 89 is now resting in Peace?? What gave out? Engine?
As for the tire, don't need one at this moment in time, but i'll keep you in mind if I ever do..lol
What I am in need of is the owners manual and other manuals that came with the vehile...That's the luck with buying second hand I guess..no paperwork..
Thanks for the warm welcome and I hope to discuss more in the future..
Holly

Psman32@af
05-05-2002, 10:48 PM
in a nutshell, the trans is killing the engine again, the engine was rebuilt at 165,000, and id have to replace both so instead because of the miles she is in storage soon the be taken apart and then scarped later this year (:()which i feel is a big mistake as it is lgiht years ahead of the bick contrary to popualr believe in my family. and no problem with the welcome. also i believe i went into more detail earlier in this thread about the problem.
and something i meant to put in my last post, i averaged around 18 mpg when i was hottrodding more often then not, when i was driving like the rest of the people i averafe between 20 and 21 i believe.

Pennzoil GT-R
06-09-2002, 04:46 PM
MercCougarXR7 said the town car made 170 hp from a 5.0 litre V8???
is this right, because if it is Lincoln must truly be embarrassed about it. 170 hp from a 5 litre V8 is PATHETIC. Seeing as you people in here own these things, what is the handling like, cos the general belief in europe is that lincolns, cadillacs etc. just refuse to go round corners at all.

Psman32@af
06-15-2002, 05:37 PM
well i must say that my 89 towncar has much more grip than my 91 buick despite the huge difference in the miles. And yes teh 89 linc is rated at 150 hp. Keep in mind that is rated at the wheels and I can personally gurantee anyone that it is more than that. It is rated that at either 3300 or 3500 rpm, I dont remember which. I feel the car handles better than what most think, I dont think its all that bad, but I also havent driven a whole lot of cars.

MercCougarXR7
07-17-2002, 07:27 PM
For the Big Linc, it ain't the HP that matter's, it's the TORQUE!!!

I thought it was 170, but 150 may be the actual number. But still, that's also in it's stock form, and that 302 can be made to haul some serious Lincoln ass :D! Check out what some people do to their Lincolns and their 302's at http://www.fordvschevy.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26 :).

Holly - very sharp car, I bet it looks better in person! Black Sedan's rule :). BTW - there's a few Town Car owners on www.crownvic.net , and you may be interested in reading the 5.0L Tech forums as well.

As per handling - the Grand Marquis/Crown Vic/Town Car's are ALL built on the SAME frame from 1980-2002. That said, Holly's car would handle JUST like my BMW, I mean Grand Marquis with the same mods (poly control arm bushings, Bilstein shocks, Addco Sway bars, 17x8 wheels (should have bought 18's) and (now removed to find a better height) Eibach springs. VERY tight, and still retains a smoother and more comfortable than my parents's (stock) 1995 Chrysler Concorde :).

Wanna race up the 'twisties' :sun: ?

purelux
10-26-2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Psman32@af
HA HA I get to do the inagural post.
I love this car. My dad has a 1997 Lincoln Towncar. I'm not sure how to describe the color because it changes from where u are looking. It is a signature series, or the higher of the two trims. It has a 4.6 Liter V-8. The same is found in the Mustang. For as much as I know, all Towncars use Mustang engines. I personally have a 1989 Lincoln Towncar. It has a 5.0 Liter V-8. It has a silver/gray two tone paint with a gray canvas top. It is a cartier series which means it is the highest trim of that year. engine was rebuilt at 165,000 miles and trans was rebuilt around there as well. The car has 199,000 miles on it now. Towncars are quicker and faster than most think. I had mine at 95 mph and still in third gear out of 4. I'm not sure about 0-60 but I have beaten a few people and embarressed a Camero RS+ the other day. Well thats all for me for now.
Chris.

It may be the tri caot paint which actually has 3 differnt shades very close shades, but im not sure. The block is the same as a mustang but internally is different depending on year about 40-60 hp approximatly. I have a 1998 towncar executive which i added true duel exhaust and straight through free flow mufflers and a superchip and have seen first hand the speed difference. Yeah it is fun blowing someone out of the water with such a large car. Esically a camaro as most owners all seem to thin they have a formula in their hands.

purelux
10-26-2002, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
MercCougarXR7 said the town car made 170 hp from a 5.0 litre V8???
is this right, because if it is Lincoln must truly be embarrassed about it. 170 hp from a 5 litre V8 is PATHETIC. Seeing as you people in here own these things, what is the handling like, cos the general belief in europe is that lincolns, cadillacs etc. just refuse to go round corners at all.

They don't understand the american ride as their roads are set up for speed in europe and the roads in general are more curved. Here in the states also speed is looked down on as evil where as in europe a car's speed is praised. Lincoln's and cadillac's handle fairly well here in the u.s. where they are designed to be used I have a 98 towncar which rides smoother and quieter but cadillac's handle better overall I would say. Yeah the 5.0 was about 170, the 4.6 now out puts about 210-240 depending on year but torque is what these cars run on. Try runnig 4-6 people in a camaro or mustang and cargo and see how far ya get and how poorly they handle the weight.

Pennzoil GT-R
10-26-2002, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by purelux


They don't understand the american ride as their roads are set up for speed in europe and the roads in general are more curved. Here in the states also speed is looked down on as evil where as in europe a car's speed is praised. Lincoln's and cadillac's handle fairly well here in the u.s. where they are designed to be used I have a 98 towncar which rides smoother and quieter but cadillac's handle better overall I would say. Yeah the 5.0 was about 170, the 4.6 now out puts about 210-240 depending on year but torque is what these cars run on. Try runnig 4-6 people in a camaro or mustang and cargo and see how far ya get and how poorly they handle the weight.

yeh thats true. and also reading my post again i can see it wasnt exactly in the best tone. i had probably just finished an argument explaining why the Z06 is not the best car in the world, and was not in a very favourable mood towards american cars

gemballa
10-26-2002, 05:51 PM
that true!
everybody always compares the z06 with a nw sports car!

Towncar
10-29-2002, 01:31 AM
I'm riding my 96 Cartier with the works included. 100% Immaculate, not a scratch on her, just turned 37,000 miles.
JBL Head unit, 10 disk changer, 6 JBL speakers, + subwoofer, mobile phone (wanted), Quietest ride ever, cream color leather, dark camel tone carpets, very light Navajo / cream color exterior....
did I mention Quiet.....
Handles a bit stiff when I'm alone, but drive by Malibu, toss in 5 or 6 bikini bustin babes, and she rides on a cloud. Did I mention quiet... Unfortunately I gotta work 6 to 7 hrs per day x5, so I dont often get a chance to cloud surf, but man is she quite.
100% LUXURY !!

gemballa
10-30-2002, 03:05 PM
:eek: thats a very nice car!
i think that siometimes american cars interior are better than european!
they have more comfort!

purelux
10-31-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by gemballa
:eek: thats a very nice car!
i think that siometimes american cars interior are better than european!
they have more comfort!

European interiors are designed to be "sportier" even inluxary cars which means nice leather or cloth but usually pretty firm padding in the seats. American cars however seem to feel that they need to do the same so it's getting harder and harder to find comfortable seats even in american luxary such as a cadillac or lincoln cadi's are aimed at a sport/luxary image so they are pretty firm for a luxary car, but lincoln's and some buick's still can have some fairly comfy seats.

purelux
10-31-2002, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by MercCougarXR7
For the Big Linc, it ain't the HP that matter's, it's the TORQUE!!!

I thought it was 170, but 150 may be the actual number. But still, that's also in it's stock form, and that 302 can be made to haul some serious Lincoln ass :D! Check out what some people do to their Lincolns and their 302's at http://www.fordvschevy.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26 :).

Holly - very sharp car, I bet it looks better in person! Black Sedan's rule :). BTW - there's a few Town Car owners on www.crownvic.net , and you may be interested in reading the 5.0L Tech forums as well.

As per handling - the Grand Marquis/Crown Vic/Town Car's are ALL built on the SAME frame from 1980-2002. That said, Holly's car would handle JUST like my BMW, I mean Grand Marquis with the same mods (poly control arm bushings, Bilstein shocks, Addco Sway bars, 17x8 wheels (should have bought 18's) and (now removed to find a better height) Eibach springs. VERY tight, and still retains a smoother and more comfortable than my parents's (stock) 1995 Chrysler Concorde :).

Wanna race up the 'twisties' :sun: ?

the hp will vary by 15-20 depending on whether you have duel exhaust. but the duel comes in a package with a higher axle ratio also so it would improve acceleration pretty well going with it. they move along pretty well for a car there size. i test drove a 91 towncar single exhaust when the 4.6 didn't have much gain over the old 5.0 and it felt as quick as my 91 tbird v8 sport. it had no problem peelin out.

CopperHed210
10-31-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
MercCougarXR7 said the town car made 170 hp from a 5.0 litre V8???
is this right, because if it is Lincoln must truly be embarrassed about it. 170 hp from a 5 litre V8 is PATHETIC. Seeing as you people in here own these things, what is the handling like, cos the general belief in europe is that lincolns, cadillacs etc. just refuse to go round corners at all.


Ok,most luxary cars arent made to whip around turns at 100 mph though they can.They are better than Lambos or any of the sport thing over there at the turning.Where as in a Lambo you have to slow down to 30 mph without missing the turn and flying into the nearest house.In road test Caddys and Lincoln handle turns great at 100 mph.All luxary cars do.They are made to handle well.If they werent then the ride and handleing would be the same as a Vette.And though its only 170 hp its still a huge engine.You Europe people got the general ideal wrong.

Pennzoil GT-R
11-01-2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by CopperHed210
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
MercCougarXR7 said the town car made 170 hp from a 5.0 litre V8???
is this right, because if it is Lincoln must truly be embarrassed about it. 170 hp from a 5 litre V8 is PATHETIC. Seeing as you people in here own these things, what is the handling like, cos the general belief in europe is that lincolns, cadillacs etc. just refuse to go round corners at all.


Ok,most luxary cars arent made to whip around turns at 100 mph though they can.They are better than Lambos or any of the sport thing over there at the turning.Where as in a Lambo you have to slow down to 30 mph without missing the turn and flying into the nearest house.In road test Caddys and Lincoln handle turns great at 100 mph.All luxary cars do.They are made to handle well.If they werent then the ride and handleing would be the same as a Vette.And though its only 170 hp its still a huge engine.You Europe people got the general ideal wrong.

so you are trying to say that a Caddillac and a Lincoln can outhandle a Lamborghini or a Corvette?!?

purelux
11-01-2002, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Hollywrigh
I am the proud owner of a 1989 5.0 V8 TC. It has a Black Exterior and Royal Blue interior. It's got 190,000+ miles on an original engine and tranny. No I am NOT a little old lady with this car...far from it. I am a mom of 5 children who play soccer, basketball, baseball, and various other sports and so my car is always on the go, go, go...It's beaten various other "sport" cars coming off stoplights, even managed to outrun a 2000 TC..what a wimp. Now my car may be deemed a Gangster car or even the all time favorite "Pimpmobile" but I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. Everything in the instrument panel is completely digital (a pain at times), Leather interior with Pillow cushion seats, Cloth roof, and not one ping or clunk anywhere under the hood.
It gets me 13mpg in the city and about 20 on the eway depending on who is driving (hubby claims he can get 17mpg in the city but I have yet to see it and he's faster than I am on the gas pedal). It has NOT left me stranded on the side of the road unlike my Dodge or Pontiac has, so to me this "little" car of mine is a keeper.
Just my .02 cents worth..
Holly

You do have a very nice car and I really like that body style I would like to have one as a second car. However there is no way that it could out run a 2000 tc. The 2000 has more power the transmission is programmed to shift faster it's lighter and more aerdynamic. Either that car wasn't floored or needed some work done on it . I have a 98 towncar so I know what they run like. However I do hope within the next year to save up and get a 89 as I really like the ride and look one like yours would be sweet.

CopperHed210
11-01-2002, 06:29 PM
so you are trying to say that a Caddillac and a Lincoln can outhandle a Lamborghini or a Corvette?!?



Of course they can.By a long shot.

Pennzoil GT-R
11-01-2002, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by CopperHed210




Of course they can.By a long shot.

lol, u know sarcasm is hard to detect in text!! and i DO hope your being sarcastic:rolleyes:

purelux
11-01-2002, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


lol, u know sarcasm is hard to detect in text!! and i DO hope your being sarcastic:rolleyes:

Maybe thay can't out handle the lambro or vette but they certainly ride better. Also I would bet if you gave the average drivers those cars to drive on a road coarse the cadi and the lincoln would be the two not wrecked.

CopperHed210
11-02-2002, 07:54 AM
I agree with purelux.Im not being sarcastic.From my experience driving Caddys and Lincolns,I have avoided many accidents than I wouldn't have with a Lambo.

Senrew
11-02-2002, 10:56 AM
I have a 92 Signature that I just inherited from my mustang/lincoln freak father. It's bone stock but I'm just dying to screw around with it. Down here, there are very few TCs worth their suspension. Mostly just exhaust and rims but no balls. What I'm looking for is information on what the differences are between the 4.6 in this thing and the ones in the mustangs. I already know the heads are crap, and the stock dual exhaust is crap as well.

First thing I'm doing is running bigger headers, flowmasters, and straight through 3" pipes out the back, no emissions down here in Florida so I can thankfully get some power from that. Heh, with that I may actually be able to hear the thing when it's running. (You all know exactly what I mean.)

Factory hp on this thing is supposedly like 240/5 or something like that. I intend to bring it up to about 350 by the end of the year. I can already embarras the low-end imports that surround me (Miami is an import crazy town.)

Any help is greatly appreciated.

purelux
11-02-2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Senrew
I have a 92 Signature that I just inherited from my mustang/lincoln freak father. It's bone stock but I'm just dying to screw around with it. Down here, there are very few TCs worth their suspension. Mostly just exhaust and rims but no balls. What I'm looking for is information on what the differences are between the 4.6 in this thing and the ones in the mustangs. I already know the heads are crap, and the stock dual exhaust is crap as well.

First thing I'm doing is running bigger headers, flowmasters, and straight through 3" pipes out the back, no emissions down here in Florida so I can thankfully get some power from that. Heh, with that I may actually be able to hear the thing when it's running. (You all know exactly what I mean.)

Factory hp on this thing is supposedly like 240/5 or something like that. I intend to bring it up to about 350 by the end of the year. I can already embarras the low-end imports that surround me (Miami is an import crazy town.)

your lookin about 210hp stock actually and you don't want to go larger that the 2.25 inch pipe i believe that is on there. not to say that getting a stainless custom duel isn't less restrictive and agood idea, but going too big removes the low end power if you aren't seriously modding your car. check www.crownvic.net for suggestions on modding as the people on there are very knoledgable on the subject. With 350hp a 2.5 inch pipe should be good. i have a 98 towncar with the 4.6 and duel it only puts out 225 stock. i have gone single to duel exhaust true duel stainless freeflow mufflers, superchip, mobil 1 synthetic oil and diff fluid, amsoil synthetic transmission fluid and mobil 1 synthetic atf for my power steering as atf is called for not power steering fluid your year may be different. and an optima battery. Mustang's also can be 4 valves per cylendar as opposed to 2 on the vic's lincolns, merc's but i think some are 2 depending on what model of the mustnag you are talking. And yeah with what i have you can definatly hear it and it is very fun to toast an import or some kid in a 88 camaro rs. i even have out run monte carlo ss's the rear wheel drives of coarse.


Any help is greatly appreciated.

Pennzoil GT-R
11-02-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by purelux


Maybe thay can't out handle the lambro or vette but they certainly ride better. Also I would bet if you gave the average drivers those cars to drive on a road coarse the cadi and the lincoln would be the two not wrecked.

ooohhhh, i thought he meant that a caddy could go round a corner faster than a lambo.my bad

CopperHed210
11-03-2002, 09:26 AM
A Caddy could.A Lambo going fast around a 90 degree turn would probably wipe out.A caddy wouldnt.

MercCougarXR7
12-13-2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by CopperHed210
A Caddy could.A Lambo going fast around a 90 degree turn would probably wipe out.A caddy wouldnt.

OK - now I KNOW you're on crack.

Different cars serve different purposes. Have to drive many miles on an interstate? Lincoln on Caddy boats are your car. Want to drive around the city, with tight turns? Get the import.

About the 170hp in the OLDER Vics and TownCars - yeah, that's not alot - but I don't think you understand the TORQUE factor. Torque at low rpm's is what gets these old girls moving, NOT high revs that utilize HP.

Stick a 10,000 pound trailer to both a BRAND NEW high horsepower low torque Civic (or whatever you want) to an Late 80's American Made sedan (be it a Vic or Caprice) with less than 200 hp, and guess which one will actually be able to haul it?










No - it isn't gonna be the import :).

purelux
12-13-2002, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by MercCougarXR7


OK - now I KNOW you're on crack.

Different cars serve different purposes. Have to drive many miles on an interstate? Lincoln on Caddy boats are your car. Want to drive around the city, with tight turns? Get the import.

About the 170hp in the OLDER Vics and TownCars - yeah, that's not alot - but I don't think you understand the TORQUE factor. Torque at low rpm's is what gets these old girls moving, NOT high revs that utilize HP.

Stick a 10,000 pound trailer to both a BRAND NEW high horsepower low torque Civic (or whatever you want) to an Late 80's American Made sedan (be it a Vic or Caprice) with less than 200 hp, and guess which one will actually be able to haul it?

No - it isn't gonna be the import :).

1998 crown vic single exhaust
Horsepower: 200 hp
Max Horsepower: 4250 rpm
Torque: 265 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3000 rpm
Maximum Towing Capacity: 2000 lbs

1990 crown victoria
Horsepower: 150 hp
Max Horsepower: 3200 rpm
Torque: 270 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 2000 rpm
Drive Type: RWD

Also by the way the limit was 5,000 pounds and only that with the tow package on the vic's with the 5.0 duel exhaust and a higher axle ratio.

here's a 1990 caprice 5.7
Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 5 liters
Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 170 hp
Max Horsepower: 4400 rpm
Torque: 225 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 2400 rpm
Drive Type: RWD

Also as for tight turns how does that require a import assuming that even all imports have a tight turning ratio. Are you such a bad driver that you can't negotiate corners in a car larger than compact or mid-size? Also A 98 accord has a 36.1' turning ratio and my 98 towncar has a 42.2. Wow thats massive considering how may u-turns are required as I drive around
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pete estr
12-08-2004, 10:07 AM
I have a 1990 Lincoln towncar that I purchased new for my wife back then, It has 210,000 miles on it now. I had it repainted from the bare metal up last year . and the leather seats replace where needed, new head liner, Car looks great, never have had any major repairs ,except routine maintance, once mufflers, and door window motors, dealer charged me a few hundred to replace each window motor lasted 4 months, got old ones replaced for 40.00 ea, two years ago still work great, Only current problem
we had was it would loose power uphill, and had no power to take off, yesterday I had it checked out to see if the motor or transmission needed overhaul. mechanic reset the timing by loosing up the nut and rotating the ingition timing.then test drove it , it took three times of reseting the timing until he got it right, drives like a new car now,with plenty of power, charge Zero, ,he had just overhauled my transmission on my 1997 Ranger, charge 809.00 as he saved some parts off my old one. Need his address in SA texas Email me , peteestr@aol.com. I have a feeling the timing was taken off on purpose during prior tune up. Why!!!

dragon_fire_2003
12-06-2005, 07:25 AM
HA HA I get to do the inagural post.
I love this car. My dad has a 1997 Lincoln Towncar. I'm not sure how to describe the color because it changes from where u are looking. It is a signature series, or the higher of the two trims. It has a 4.6 Liter V-8. The same is found in the Mustang. For as much as I know, all Towncars use Mustang engines. I personally have a 1989 Lincoln Towncar. It has a 5.0 Liter V-8. It has a silver/gray two tone paint with a gray canvas top. It is a cartier series which means it is the highest trim of that year. engine was rebuilt at 165,000 miles and trans was rebuilt around there as well. The car has 199,000 miles on it now. Towncars are quicker and faster than most think. I had mine at 95 mph and still in third gear out of 4. I'm not sure about 0-60 but I have beaten a few people and embarressed a Camero RS+ the other day. Well thats all for me for now.
Chris.


hey im a proud owner of a 1990 lincoln town car it has a ford 5.0L under the hood it has heat problems i need to change the heater core it has dual Exhaust Pipes and it got in a crash but im restoreing it the hoods twisted a lil and the driver side head lights messed up but nothing you cant fix i drive it right now i wanna buyt a biger motor in it that will but more hp out it will roast its tires right not but anywayz im out peace
dragon

sreilly77
12-07-2005, 05:36 PM
this is my dad and my own opinion. The last of the true Lincoln looks was in 1989. We both feel that after that they look more like a different divsion. The new ones arent that strong with that whimpy little 4.6 either (own opinion) The new ones also appears smaller then does my model year. Mine has an estimated 250 but I'm not sure because i don't know the compression ratio.


you know your right. even my father agrees the last true lincoln look was 1989. i own a 1995 and its a great car, but the style of the 80s lincoln town car was just unbelieveable. they were definitly a car that was used to ride in style. better than those big bulky cadillacs.

however, even though the 4.6L SOHC V8 is much more efficient and more powerful than the 5.0L, lincolns are not meant to be for racing. they are land yahts. they are meant to cruise and show off, not to race. they are meant to keep super clean and super nice looking and super comfortable. However, I have taken the advantage of dropping a 4.6L DOHC Cobra V8 in my Town Car, just in case someone thinks they can outrun my land yaht/muscle car. :evillol:

but remember, yea they are fast cars, but believe me, they last a lot longer if you take care of them. if you want to race cars, then you should have bought a mustang and not a town car.

sreilly77
12-07-2005, 05:40 PM
you know your right. even my father agrees the last true lincoln look was 1989. i own a 1995 and its a great car, but the style of the 80s lincoln town car was just unbelieveable. they were definitly a car that was used to ride in style. better than those big bulky cadillacs.

however, even though the 4.6L SOHC V8 is much more efficient and more powerful than the 5.0L, lincolns are not meant to be for racing. they are land yahts. they are meant to cruise and show off, not to race. they are meant to keep super clean and super nice looking and super comfortable. However, I have taken the advantage of dropping a 4.6L DOHC Cobra V8 in my Town Car, just in case someone thinks they can outrun my land yaht/muscle car. :evillol:

but remember, yea they are fast cars, but believe me, they last a lot longer if you take care of them. if you want to race cars, then you should have bought a mustang and not a town car.

oh i forgot to mention, i did have transmission work done so the engine can handle an automatic transmission. but like i said, i dont race my town car and i never will. i just added that extra power just in case some1 thinks that ford is Found On Road Dead or Fixed Or Repaired Daily. Because I tell you right now, they are not. Luxury and Power all in one car. And if I recall, Ford has been using the same 4.6L engines in their vics, marquis, town cars, etc for how many years now? if i recall, gm and other motor companies (except honda off the top of my head) have changed their engines and used different ones many times. If i recall, the 4.6L arrived in early 91 and is still the same engine used today, just tweaked. so it just goes to show u that ford is all that it should be - reliable. you take care of the car, it will take care of you

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