You know what to do.....(F-Birds included)

i've got a 98 v6....blah

looks like 3ed gen is kicking ass!!!!

i didn't see third gen lt1 on there!? i want my own category damnit!! lol jp

Future cars allowed? I know if I do get my F-bod, it'll be an LT1 93-97.

only third gen v6 in town?

(I also got a 93 Z28)

Only current cars... otherwise the 93-98 v8 sections would be loaded :icon16:

i didn't see third gen lt1 on there!? i want my own category damnit!! lol jp
*clears throat* um... would that not still be a 3rd Gen with a V8?! :slap: lol

*clears throat* um... would that not still be a 3rd Gen with a V8?! :slap: lol
:werd: .....i just like saying that to add to my post count....but not in this time....im surprised that there are more 3rd gen v8's than other cars combined so far.......

Im not.. people know what generation is better.

Im not.. people know what generation is better.

i know! so why aren't they voting for 4th gen v6's?

you're just mad your generation lost

you're just mad your generation lost

no i'm not..........prove it!.........im gonna go create like 12 accounts and vote for my generation

you're just mad your generation lost
technicaly your 3rd-4th gen so...

haha....he's a mutt

i am a mutt, that's why i wanted my one category... bastards

Still not getting one

you all are teh ghey

93-97 v6 ftw


And the turdgen madness is because all the sensible peopel said hey this car is crap, so sold it off for 100-500 bucks to a buncha rednecks, and cheap bastards


:D

you're just mad your generation lost

exactly. :sunglasse

and rednecks are cool....

and what happened to korndog? he has a 1st gen doesnt he?

And the turdgen madness is because all the sensible peopel said hey this car is crap, so sold it off for 100-500 bucks to a buncha rednecks, and cheap bastards


:D
thats a good point...i sold my '87 iroc for $200

did it run? was it all rusted up?

it ran....it was a 305 tpi and the guy who owned it before me caught it on fire and replaced it w/ a carbed 305....had t tops, power everything, 350 turbo tranny

definetly couldve sold it for more than 200 dollars.....a butt load more....

definetly couldve sold it for more than 200 dollars.....a butt load more....
He sold it for what it was worth :lol2:

Let's not gang up on the 3rd gens here. We all know IROC stands for
I
Rule
Other
Cars
So therefore, the 3rd gen V8's are where it's at. Especially 87 IROC's.
HAHAHAHA!!!!

Says the man with the non-running one.

im a cheap bastard.. but i have a 4th gen v6.. go figure...

Hey... it runs... just not at the moment.

definetly couldve sold it for more than 200 dollars.....a butt load more....

i know....but my cousin wanted it and i was fed up with it so i sold it....

I know how that feels. I'm tryin to get rid of my berlinetta. It's just taking up space and since i'm about to leave for school, i could use the money for it. The longer i leave it there, the chances of pops and grandmoms junking it at the yard are high. I'm not gonna get any money that route.

whats up with your car again link?

92z, to be honest, there is nothing wrong with the car. I just said it was out of comish because i took it off the road, because of insurance. She runs great man. I really need to change my sig... i'll have some picture soon enough.

93-97 v6 ftw


And the turdgen madness is because all the sensible peopel said hey this car is crap, so sold it off for 100-500 bucks to a buncha rednecks, and cheap bastards


:D

I hope your little 3.8 is up to the task of outrunning a bunch of angry 'turdgen' v8 own'n rednecks.

Hell, you seem to be out numba'd boy for talk'n such junk.

Maude, where' my spit can we goins on a road trip.

:rofl: :evillol:

92z, to be honest, there is nothing wrong with the car. I just said it was out of comish because i took it off the road, because of insurance. She runs great man. I really need to change my sig... i'll have some picture soon enough.



He drives it around his back yard every day! And sometimes when he's feeling like going somewhere, he drives on sidewalks.

HAHAHAHA!!! That was good, and some what true. I let it run for a couple 3 days out of the week. And sometimes when i go through withdrawl, i'll driver and reverse in a straight line. I'm depressed. I miss my car badly. There's so much rice in the area, it unbelievable. Hey wrightz28, i'll be the 1st black redneck chasing down kasey in dis hur turgen! Get ur dun!!!

GIT R DONE! Thas right. I wish there was more of ANYTHING in this area. Hell, I'd even take more rice. Worst thing we have here are civics and Cavs with fart cans.


Which, I might add, is why I shall rule them all in my mighty Cast Iron King!

Tell me about it. When i was driving the ROC, i couldn't get ANYTHING to race me. I know it ain't the fastest thing around, but damn, these people just wouldn't bitye at all. When i put it back on the road in March, i guess i'm gonna have to be an asshole for once. I think it'll grab some some attention.

1992 rs 305 tbi
1967 SS396 (my brothers, not tech mine but its in the same garage)

Nice!!! Have you driven it? I know that shit is fast.

Why does a angry mob looking to kick Kasey's ass not surprise me :dunno:

HAHAHAHA!! Someone get out the camera. Definitely a kodak moment.

Why does a angry mob looking to kick Kasey's ass not surprise me :dunno:

Meh, I think he's just jealus cuz he can't see over the taller dash of a thrid gen? :lol:

well since we all know that kasey's car couldn't get away from us... his best bet would be to stand next to a concrete mailbox... we prolly wouldn't see him... :icon16:

so why does this keep popping up as a new post or is there something wrong with my computer

someone voted

ooooo....ok that makes perfect sense...and it looks like the 3rd gen numbers went up somemore

BTW, just for anyone keeping track. Third gens are only winning by 4 votes.

wether you win by an inch or by a mile...lol

Oh god, we got a fast and furious fan in the house. Quick, beat his ass :banghead:

Damn Tcfco, you beat me to it.

3rd gens are winning by six votes where did you get 4?

oh god im out numberd!!!

3rd gens are winning by six votes where did you get 4?
Have you been smoking crack Rally? :grinyes:

Add V6 to V8 third gen. Then add all the fourth gen numbers together and right now , you guys are actually only winning by three.

im not a fast and furious fan...but i just had to say that little part...lol
and ya rally must be smokin something cause my math and my calculator say were up by 3

Well we are up by 4 now...everyone knows third gens are better...
With my V6, I may get passed by honds and toyotas on the road, but I know that if I ever wanted to drop a 350 in my F-body, I would be able to, but for them, a 6 is as big as it gets :nutkick:

So....3rd gens may be winning this poll...

John...maybe we should start up a poll on who is fastest? :D

hey hey now....

who does have the fastest car on the camaro forum and what gen is it?

Right now i'd say John, but Curtis would have it when it's running right, but im still not sure, we'd have to have a contest of drag runs.

Also the car would be a 4th gen Firebird. If either John or Curtis is.. it wouldnt change. :lol:

So....3rd gens may be winning this poll...

John...maybe we should start up a poll on who is fastest? :D
I couldn't agree more :grinyes:.

Also on that note I am unsure who is aware and who is unaware but I am in the processing of adding a little boost to my ride via a 6 PSI powerdyne. That should put me in the 700 horse neighborhood not sure exactly how much your making Mr.Luos but I am sure to give you a run.

Should whoop my ass. :lol:

There arent nearly enough 2nd gens on this forum...I should have my uncle Jeff sign up. He has been prepping his special edition 1974 Z28 for a couple months now...shure is taken his sweet time get'n er ready for a new paint job :evillol:
It was one of his two "Highschool Hotrods" :smokin: He did all the mods to it while in high school(graduated in '79) and was able to squeeze 550 HP out of it :bananadie...which I think is very impressive for that time.

550 is impressive for anytime.

I do agree, but nowadays there are cars with 600...700...1000...and higher HP...but for the most part, they usually require the assistance of computers and not to mention all the advances in engineering... All I am saying is that these days, much more is possible...but ofcourse you know that...approaching 700HP!!!
So of course it impressive, but at the time he did all the mods, I really dont think it would have been possible to get much more out of an engine then MABE 580

Thats actually not the case. They were possibly of creating tons more power back then its just now adays with the added control of computer aided stuff like injector pulsing and MAF/density sensors. You can make that power much more efficeintly. While the L88 or ZL1's may have made some serious power in the 500+ area stock back in the 60's. a newer V8 like a LS6 would be able to make that type of gross power while being like 300 - 400% more fuel efficient.

Not to mention drive quality.

so................which generation killed the camaro????:grinno:

The economy sucking killed the Camaro. You want something to blame. Blame terrorism.

blame canada

eh?

Thats actually not the case. They were possibly of creating tons more power back then its just now adays with the added control of computer aided stuff like injector pulsing and MAF/density sensors. You can make that power much more efficeintly. While the L88 or ZL1's may have made some serious power in the 500+ area stock back in the 60's. a newer V8 like a LS6 would be able to make that type of gross power while being like 300 - 400% more fuel efficient.

I find it very hard to believe that a stock engine put out 500+ back in the 60's...what car was it in? What size was it? The L88 was the corvette engine right? I didnt even think that made it past the 400s
I know emissions systems greatly chocked the gas guz. muscle cars of the 70s (71 Buick Riv. with a 455 had 330HP stock whereas the 72 had like 20HP less just because of changes in the emissions systems) but I dont see how a stock engine could have put out 500+ HP in that era...even in the 60's (before the emissions systems) with the restrictions of leaded gasoline(such as brass valve components) and cast iron. Did they even have 4-barrel carbs back then? (I'l have to look into that)
I can tell you know your stuff, but I would have to disagree with you without doing more research on this subject:sorry:

GM purposely under rated certain engines and yes its crank/flywheel horsepower. No horsepower rating done by manufactor is done at the rear wheels. So you can't even use that figure for new cars cause they measure horsepower at the flywheel not rear wheels.

Also to help you in your research here's this article from corvette fever. http://corvettefever.com/techarticles/corp_0509_bigblock/index1.html

John how do you figure that the Fbody died because of terrorism? I thought it died because of the import scene that began hitting back then.. with the start of F&F and everything.

The Camaro died because lack of sales. Can't buy a new car if you have no income and 9/11 happen in 2001 and then GM decided after the sales of the 2002 Camaro they would be discontinuing it. See a coincidence there cause I do. All automakers had declined sales in 2002 and 2003 not just GM. So you can't blame the fast and furious even though that movie definitely gave some of the import guys mighty mouse balls.

Also to help you in your research here's this article from corvette fever. http://corvettefever.com/techarticles/corp_0509_bigblock/index1.html
Thanks for the link...A real eye opener.
I had almost forgotten why my uncle dropped a vette engine in his '74 Z28. Im so used to seeing our Corvette parked that sometimes I forget why we call it "the rocket" :evillol:

If I remember correctly, GM experience a decline in Camaro sales prior to 9/11.
I dont remember where I read it, but I distinctly remember reading somewhere that the Camaro had earned the reputation of worst car in _________(America, the US, or the world, cant remember) sometime during the reign of the fourth gen.
Does anyone else remember that?

I wasnt blaming it purely on the movie, it was part of it, if you ask alot of import dudes they'll surely say F&F got em into cars/imports and thats when the import scene started to get big was back in 01..

If I remember correctly, GM experience a decline in Camaro sales prior to 9/11.
I dont remember where I read it, but I distinctly remember reading somewhere that the Camaro had earned the reputation of worst car in _________(America, the US, or the world, cant remember) sometime during the reign of the fourth gen.
Does anyone else remember that?
:wtf: The fourth Gen Camaro has a rep of being the worst car in the world?. Have you been smoking some of Rally's stash. The camaro is considered to be even among the import guys a quick car for the most part. If any of the gens take the most stuff for being junk its the third gens (I completely disagree with it) but most of time you see the other makes/models putting down third gens not 4th gen.

Not cool, John. I dont share my stash. :lol2: Anyway, I dont hate 4th gens.. they are the quickest but I just dont really like the styling except that of a firebird.

If I remember correctly, GM experience a decline in Camaro sales prior to 9/11.
I dont remember where I read it, but I distinctly remember reading somewhere that the Camaro had earned the reputation of worst car in _________(America, the US, or the world, cant remember) sometime during the reign of the fourth gen.
Does anyone else remember that?
The 4th gen LT1 camaro only had 2 main problems.... 1 opti and 2 waterpump.... both usually lasting 100k nevertheless.... other than that they were and are powerhouses of the day... for how much power they create compared to mustang etc they still have less problems than your daily driver... I think you need to start reading creditable sources and not mustang bumperstickers...

:lol: Yeah Camaros sure were powerful when they came out with the LT1.. finally the Mustang can say that its as fast(er) than your Lt1 v8.. only took them forever.

:lol: Yeah Camaros sure were powerful when they came out with the LT1.. finally the Mustang can say that its as fast(er) than your Lt1 v8.. only took them forever.
well... not "MINE" but yeah they finally got a hair over the stock LT1 lol

First of all, I have my own stash...lol
Secondly, I wasnt saying I hate 4th gens...Im not stupid, I know how powerful and fast they are! And I dont recall saying that the rep was solely the result of the 4th gens... BTW I see the bumpers of Mustangs as a target to aim for....lol :chair: :lol2:

I wasnt referring to a specific LT1.. especially not Johns.. or anyone elses because that'd be stupid. Im just saying 'your' as in your basic run of the mill un modded one..

ive got 1.5 V8 third gens, so does that mean i have a V12 third gen?

ive got 1.5 V8 third gens, so does that mean i have a V12 third gen?
nope, just means you need one car for parts to keep the other one driving....

You shouldnt want a V12 anyway...nothing but trouble...

Dont know why you'd want a v12 in a Camaro except wow factor.

:iagree:

It brings up the Turbon8tor.. im sure everyone's seen it a mid 50s-60s Chevy that had 8 turbos in it? Only made 500ish HP, lol.

hey hey now....

who does have the fastest car on the camaro forum and what gen is it?

Did everybody forget there are a couple of big block 1st and early 2nd gens lurking around here?

any 572?...:drool:

Not many 1st gen guys around here eh?

Only two member come to mind that have them and one of them hasn't posted in a long long time.

LS1 representing

Wow this is a close one. Down to two votes.

so................which generation killed the camaro????:grinno:

i heard on muscle car garage that the low sales of the 98-02 killed the camaro

i want a V12

it is actuly a good thing that they stoped makin it in a way, be for you beat the shit out of me let me explain, then stop makin it lets every one know how bad they were and how much they miss them, and every one talking about the new camaro will remind every one about the camaro again, so there sales for the new camaro for the first few years will be bad ass!!

GM management lost track of the joy of building fast cars flat out. They ditched the inhouse performance aspect and comissioned SLP and just focused on how much to charge for it, which was just too damn much.

Now that GM realized they were monkey fucking themselves while Ford and Chrysler were getting all the lost souls without a product, they switched all the mgmt. around and look at what is happening.

And even now, Ford apparently didn't learn from GM's mistakes since they shut down the SVT program and let companies like Roush do it for them. :screwy:

very true and now chryslers srt-8 cars are selling like crazy...and those things are mad quick too for stock...the 300c srt-8 runs a 13.2 completely stock...

No kidding, my little cousin's SRT Neon is ridiculously fast.

Who the hell voted in this? some mod needs to lock it.

I blame rally... ban him

I concur but for how long?

what's wrong with voting in here?

I dont think anyone voted seeing as how the poll is closed.

I closed the poll cause someone voted in it. There is nothing wrong with voting but just like bringing back a old thread with a post. Its annoying if you have nothing on that specific subject to update about.