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scottk706
12-28-2005, 05:00 PM
hey, i jsut rebuilt my whole engine, and had my head milled and got a new gasket and bolts. but after spending many hours on it i go to start it up and its still leaking oil from the spot. The back drivers side corner. i put my bolts at 50ft lbs and everything was VERY clean. What could be causing this? someone told me yesterday to redo my head agian and spray 3 coats of this copper gasket spray on it. would this fix my problem. does anyone have any ideas?

01EB5.0
12-28-2005, 05:12 PM
Well, sounds like something is not straight. Could the head or block be warped slightly? Even just a little bit could make a difference. it's hard to tell without putting a percision straightedge to it, which will be tough now that it's assembled, but thats my only thought

RahX
12-28-2005, 06:56 PM
are you sure you torqued it down right? those MLS gaskets require the proper sequence to get them to seal. also SOME copper sealer spray on there is a good idea but not too much. two thin coats is all you need. anyway here is the sequence to use with NEW head bolts.
First All to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.)
Second All to 68 Nm (50 ft. lbs.)
Third All to 68 Nm (50 ft. lbs.)
Fourth Turn an additional 1/4 Turn, Do not use a torque wrench for this step.
For the rest of installation, reverse removal procedure.

cylinder head bolts are sequenced as follows:
10 6 2 3 7
9 5 1 4 8

so you start with one, go to two then three etc. first step would be 25ftlbs in sequence then go back and do step two so forth and so on. on the last step, the 1/4 turn its a good idea to use a grease pencil and mark the tops of the bolts with a mark so you know where you started and go from 12o'clock to 12:15.

neon_rt
12-28-2005, 07:14 PM
Make sure you use new head bolts.
The head bolts are "stretch" bolts and only can be used once. If you use them again after they have been stretched already, you will have problems with the head sealing. Because they won't stretch a second time, the torque after the 1/4 turn will be too high and can crack the block. Also, after a short time the gasket will start leaking b/c it will settle some and the bolts won't suck the head down the way it should.

scottk706
12-28-2005, 07:30 PM
my head was milled and i used new bolts. i tighten them in the right order. and i went 25-50 and then a 1/4 turn. and if my blocked it worped. it being a little 4 banger idk if it gets that hot to do that.

RahX
12-29-2005, 02:08 AM
its possible the block is warped. the only thing you can do is take the head back off and look in that area to see what went wrong. it could be abit of dirt or something keeping the gasket from sealing but thats the same area that the oil leaks from when the factory gasket goes so ..

scottk706
12-30-2005, 12:28 PM
i went to mopar yesterday and got a $14 can of gasket spray. the guy told me this would stop any leaks. think it will work?

RahX
12-30-2005, 02:26 PM
it could, dont get crazy with it though :)

99 Neon R/T
01-01-2006, 01:24 AM
It isnt impossible to get a faulty gasket.I'm sure it has happened to more than one of us,or maybe I am just an unlucky sob.

scottk706
01-03-2006, 02:14 PM
FUCK the neon im done!!!! i finished it put 100 miles on it. STILL leaked oil and it jsut died!! im done, i will NEVER buy a dodge agian!

das2123
01-03-2006, 03:55 PM
FUCK the neon im done!!!! i finished it put 100 miles on it. STILL leaked oil and it jsut died!! im done, i will NEVER buy a dodge agian!Sorry to see you go :crying:

scottk706
01-04-2006, 07:07 PM
i still love my neon. i got it restarted. i was just upset

scottk706
01-05-2006, 12:17 AM
im gonig to be buying a impreza soon, so im gonig to tar down the neon agian and get my block milled and redo some stuff. but. but i still love my little neon

das2123
01-05-2006, 09:01 AM
im gonig to be buying a impreza soon, so im gonig to tar down the neon agian and get my block milled and redo some stuff. but. but i still love my little neonOnce you own one, you do grow an attachment to it.

scottk706
01-05-2006, 07:27 PM
i dont know why but yes they do.

das2123
01-05-2006, 08:34 PM
i dont know why but yes they do.This is a long post, but it is so true...
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=433628&highlight=tao

micker
01-08-2006, 08:04 AM
Hi Scott, I was thinking of doing my wifes car also. It just went 101,000 and read the timing belt should be changed. We also got that oil leak on head last year. I've changed some parts but not a expert. Can a average guy do it with an hour a day and the book? Any thing I need to watch out for.

THANKS

das2123
01-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Hi Scott, I was thinking of doing my wifes car also. It just went 101,000 and read the timing belt should be changed. We also got that oil leak on head last year. I've changed some parts but not a expert. Can a average guy do it with an hour a day and the book? Any thing I need to watch out for. If you are referring to the timing belt, then yes the average guy can do it with a manual. You will need to change the tensioner pulley and the water pump at the same time. All for preventative maintenance. The hardest/toughest part is getting the harmonic balancer pulley off, but it will come off with the correct puller.

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