I used to love sliding around everywhere with my first gen 91 Talon. It was only a non-turbo but was so predictable and easy to keep under control in the snow. Now I have a 2G turbo AWD that takes corners even better. I'll always manipulate the throttle to negotiate a corner, but I really would love to use the e-brake. Does it cause damage to the drive train? Thanks.

Uh, I wouldn't do it. I'm sure it doesn't fit into the "taking care of your car," portion.

:iagree: Just don't do it.

do it as often as possible, i heard if you don't do that in the winter that your e-brake lines freeze and catch on fire if you dont...

on a serious note, that is bad for not only your brakes but your tires as well... and why the hell would you sure your e-brake for taking a corner? its not like you are taking a 90 degree turn going 65 mph..... but if it is non turbo do it all you want

Yeah, I wouldnt imagine it would be real great on the drive train. I'd get a beater to drift if I were you, your car is far to sexy to fuck up ;).

I was actually told that we could do that with our AWDs... I can't remember what it was, but something about the drivetrain being able to slip the differential I think... Don't quote me on that though, I could have very well been told wrong. (and I haven't tried it either. lol)

Well I have a cavalier, and I constantly pull the e-brake, only when it is wet though...I wont pull it going like 60 mph, only like 15-20 mph...

I usually do it with my friends in the car...The funnest part is when it is just drizzling with rain, and I yank up the handbrake and go drifting into my driveway...

Hey, Thor, you and I should love our cavaliers (I have a 2002 4dr black)..OMG they can take SO but SO much shit... I beat the hell out of that cavalier and it is my daily driver, GOD BLESS that car.

Anyways, I wouldnt be pulling the e-brake in an AWD, especially if the car (ex: eclipse) has just one single (center) differential. Unless what blackcrow says is true!

MY PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT :iceslolan

***Make sure you know what you are doing when you attempt to drift or whatever, I have practiced many a time, and know my cavalier very well, so I feel confident as to what I am doing, plus I have ABS...furthermore, never do it around people***

What a boring bunch of pansies.

Your car has a centre diff, use the damn Hand brake and enjoy driving while your still young and stupid enough to.

Unless what blackcrow says is true!

Like I said, don't quote me on that. lol :p

All I know is my one friend told me we could do that in the snow and it wouldn't hurt anything. I'm pretty sure our rear differentials allow slipping of the rear end. Like, each wheel can move at its own speed. I honestly don't know if thats right or not, but it seems like it would be true. I saw my friend do it several times in his and it works fine still... I'm too scared to try it though.

Good lord you guys need to learn some very basic technical knowledge.
I thought these were performance cars, an American basterdisation of the FTO platform, EVO/GSR Lancer drive train and some American styling?



You have a differential on each set of drive wheels that allows the wheel on each side of the car to turn at differnt speeds, and you have another one between each axle, which allows the front and rear wheels to turn at differnt speeds.

You can quite safely and easily lock one set of drive wheels, or just one drive wheel for a short period of time and one or more of the differentials will transfer power to the unlocked wheels.
(note, doing this for a sustrained period of time will destroy one or more of the differentials by over heating it).

Pulling the handbrake as you enter a corner will not cause your car to implode or self destruct, it will simple stop the back wheels from turning and alter balance of grip accross the chassis, hopefully causeing the back to slide out.
You can then let off the handbrake and start to acclerate resulting in a rapid change of direction.
Hopefully its in the direction you wanted to go, and not into a tree, but thats half the fun.

Ahhh so I was on the right path then?

lol, i really dont think ive ever made a u-turn or pulled into a drive way without pulling the old e-brake, ive got this one friend that lives on a curve and ive got it work out perfectly to where i come in around 20-25 rip on that bitch and slide sideways around the turn perfectly up into his driveway... stupid story short ive been pulling the e-brake on my car for over a year and only prob i have is worn out back tires...im also not AWD so i dont even know if this thread really applies to me...just my thoughts

Good lord you guys need to learn some very basic technical knowledge.
I thought these were performance cars, an American basterdisation of the FTO platform, EVO/GSR Lancer drive train and some American styling?



You have a differential on each set of drive wheels that allows the wheel on each side of the car to turn at differnt speeds, and you have another one between each axle, which allows the front and rear wheels to turn at differnt speeds.

You can quite safely and easily lock one set of drive wheels, or just one drive wheel for a short period of time and one or more of the differentials will transfer power to the unlocked wheels.
(note, doing this for a sustrained period of time will destroy one or more of the differentials by over heating it).

Pulling the handbrake as you enter a corner will not cause your car to implode or self destruct, it will simple stop the back wheels from turning and alter balance of grip accross the chassis, hopefully causeing the back to slide out.
You can then let off the handbrake and start to acclerate resulting in a rapid change of direction.
Hopefully its in the direction you wanted to go, and not into a tree, but thats half the fun.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, the most important part is to not hit the tree, j/k, lol. But, I think we (should have) all knew that already! :icon16:

Shit, I e-brake the Cavy, only in the snow though, not wanting to break something overshadows the thrill I get from drifting (Cavaliers arent exactly "performance" cars and I dont think a lot of the parts were made well enough to take a bunch of shit). I was out screwing around after some snow got good and packed down one day. I hit this corner at like 25 and slid it good, so I turned around and was goign to hit it again. I went in a little faster, around 35, and I accidentally held the e-brake on too long and did a 180 around the corner and slid into a snow bank. My friend Anthony had to get out a push. Its a good thing I wasnt going any faster, I was about a foot from a tree. If I had a DSM, I doubt I would e-brake it unless it was a beat up 1g.

I think you'll be fine with an AWD as long as the transmission isn't engaged. lol i had an 89 accod that i fucked with in the winter it was so fun (remember the black beauty aaron?)

yah i lost my virginity to that slut

yah i lost my virginity to that slut
Oh yeah that was one crazy night...

Ya'll boyz be on some serious-ass crack! lol

Transmition not engaged? I need to be accellerating or I'm not going to be in control around the corner.

Tanks for the feedback, I really wasn't sure how much abuse the diffs could take. So temporary e-brake engagement won't cause ANY damage?

Little short story....Last year early winter just when it started getting really slick out, I was cruising into town and came to an intersection with a two lane hyway. It had a speed corner for anyone turning right. Just then I saw a guy I race with once in a while in his Integra w/lots of mods. He was well ahead of the pack and flying down the two laner. I thought, I'll come out of nowhere and blow right by him. As I entered the apex of the corner, I suddenly realized just how icy the corner really was as I started to drift to the outer side. With no choices left, I turned in hard and gave her full boost! I ended up exiting the corner, missing the curb by mere feet, and proceeded in crossing both lanes of the hyway putting on quite the show for the vehicles back a ways. I could still feel the enertia pulling me towards the outside and had to keep her right sideways as I flew by the Integra on the left side. I was literally pointing right at him. Oh, what a rush! He had a view of my passenger side for a good few seconds before I could straiten out. Right after I started to get the shakes and my legs hurt like hell. Now every time I see him he'll say how it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. Not that I would ever want to try that again! If my car didn't have AWD it would be sitting at the wreckers right now.

Damn, that must have been quite a show...lol...bet you almost pissed in your pants!

Yeah, you'll definetly be fine pulling the ebrake in the snow for a little bit... Just don't abuse the privilage. lol :p

I'm usually in control 99% of the time. I've learned to try and keep it as safe as possible. I took my friend Chris out for a joy run to a local empty parking lot. The only one in town that has no speed bumps anywhere. From the moment we entered, we were sideways the whole time. There's three light poles in a line that are spaced pretty far apart. They make a perfect obsticle course. By the time 15 minutes had gone by we had to stop, I ate through 1/2 a tank of gas and the side windows couldn't be seen out of! It seriously felt like a video game. I can't wait to stud my tires and take her out on the lake once the ice gets thick enough.

Ha before I got my dsm about a year ago, my first car was a 1987 cavalier. Needless to say I learnt and perfected ebraking and drifting in the snow in the beater cavi. Haha lots of fun and I didn't really care if I messed it up. Anyway the first time it snowed here I took the dsm out(the video is in the video forum). While I was out I decided to pull the ebrake but my ebrake cable isn't very tight what so ever so it did pretty much nothing. Theres my pointless story.

On the lake!? You are fucking nuts!! Gotta hand it to ya though....

Damn, that must have been quite a show...lol...bet you almost pissed in your pants!

Man its almost scary how much your 2nd gen looks like mine. The first time I saw your sig I was like wtf! Then I calmed down, lol.

the only time id pull the handbrake in my awd, would be in the snow, but it wouldnt be necessary because all I gotta do is add some gas and im sideways like teh king!

Man its almost scary how much your 2nd gen looks like mine. The first time I saw your sig I was like wtf! Then I calmed down, lol.


Ohh yeah...lol...do you have a turbo spoiler as well? Black cars rule! I know our projectors are exactly the same!

*cough* my cars better *cough* lol

my first car was a 1987 cavalier

LONG LIVE THE CAVALIER!!!

What do yall think about my sig pictures?? They were taken from a camera phone (Motorola RAZR) not bad, eh? when you maximize them, they are clear as shit...IMPRESSIVE PHONE!

Hell yeah man, I just went drifting in the Cavy. Good times. Finally getting better at the 35+ mph drifts around longer corners.

You guys must of forgotten that Rally drivers constantly lock up the rear tires using the e-brake on dirt/snow/tarmac constaly to get around hairpin turns.

It won't kill you, only thing I can think of is to just push the clutch in for the few seconds you've got the e-brake pulled.

Sheesh guys, live a little. :p

Sheesh guys, live a little. :p

My wallet can't afford to live a little. Gotta play it safe. :iceslolan

What do yall think about my sig pictures?? They were taken from a camera phone (Motorola RAZR) not bad, eh? when you maximize them, they are clear as shit...IMPRESSIVE PHONE!


chyeah not bad, I can still tell the pics were from a camera though. Here's what my poopy RS looks like. And yes, your projectors are better cuz your halos probally still work.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9982/po0cp.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2006/myexhaust9ae.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6230/highbeams1au.jpg


Except for the obvious things like my stock wheels, truck height, exhaust and wing, they're brother cars!

:smokin:

Well, i still have my left Halo! Thats true about brother cars...I love you bro, lol

Suck it up guys, I'm starting to cry. You know what would get alot of attetion? Get as many near identical black Eclipses together and race through some city. People wouldn't know what to think, and if a cop pulled you over, say "Honest, I wasn't speeding, you must have clocked one of the other fifty identical cars."