Wellll I haven't been around here much at all since I've turned the boost up, installed d2 coilovers and put in the new ACT clutch but its a boring night and why not share.


There is a road around town I LOVE going through. It has a series of hard twists and turns until it puts you at a light to a main road. I usually enter the first turn at around 50 in 4th and finish the last turn at 80-90 before taking the turn on the main road to head home.

Tonight I had the pleasure of being about a quarter mile behind a Mustang GT before entering the series of turns. I had no idea what it was up there before I went through my usual routine and at the time it didn't interest me as going through the turns were like my practice runs. I proceeded to flip through my corners and wound up catching up to the GT at the final turn where I slowed down a bit so I wouldn't be riding his ass (I HATE WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT TO ME).

I think he figured he was taking those turns pretty quick on his own (only so much one of those can do before succumbing to massive body roll) but when I came close to him after having been basically nowhere in sight it must have awoken the competitor inside of him.

When he made the right turn onto the main road he went WOT as if to shake me off. I pulled up to the light quickly after he rocketed out, looked left to make sure no cars were coming and then started slamming through the first few gears to catch up. Within seconds, or the middle of third I was right next to him. His exhaust was still pounding out the same as it had been when he had left me at the light, but it felt like I was toying with him at those higher speeds. I found myself wondering if he was really racing but when I checked the speedometer it was obvious... I passed him around 70-75 in a 50 but I hesitated when I pulled even just to make sure he was really on it... He was.
I brought it up to 110+ before shutting down and turning off to my place.

Seems like those GT v8's get pretty good low end speeds but hit a wall anywhere past 60. I relucantly persued him not expecting to catch up so fast but this was by far the worst competitor I've ever had, ever.


Cliff notes - pretty much beat up on a newer (not most recent) mustang GT in the twisties and in a race where he had quite a headstart.

P.S. - 11+ psi is the shit compared to stock boost.

actually the 4.6 has a pretty good top end, but thats also where your car does better isnt it. being a v8 though the 4.6 also does have a decent lowend.

how much power are you making?

he seemed to hit a brick wall cuz you hit boost!! boost lag owns turbo cars, n/a cars have that lag FOREVER BWAHAHAHAHA

I imagine of their claimed 260hp only 230 makes it to the wheel if not a little less on a 3300lb car. With 300lb torque it's easy to see why its such a lower end car. Nice kill, dude.

These mustangs make it up to 130 with no problem. Ive raced them time in and time out, maybe there was a bad driver or your car is that much faster. If you can take on c5 corvettes with no problems, dont bother with the mustangs unless modded. Oh yea and make sure your tires are really good going through those turns at those speeds. We dont need anymore dead people. Nice job though.

Oh yea and make sure your tires are really good going through those turns at those speeds. We dont need anymore dead people. Nice job though.


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Could you of said it any worse than that?! :banghead:

he seemed to hit a brick wall cuz you hit boost!! boost lag owns turbo cars, n/a cars have that lag FOREVER BWAHAHAHAHA

What lag? If its a t25 the only problem he would have would be holding boost till redline. My stocker is a t25 and lag doesn't exist, boost as soon as you touch the pedal. I havent driven an sr or anything else with a regular t28 but I'd imagie the spool times would have minimal difference, the s15 t28 is bb.

Good kill. I haven't had any problems with 99+ Mustang GT's yet. The Mach 1's and the 03 Cobras are a different story though.

What lag? If its a t25 the only problem he would have would be holding boost till redline. My stocker is a t25 and lag doesn't exist, boost as soon as you touch the pedal. I havent driven an sr or anything else with a regular t28 but I'd imagie the spool times would have minimal difference, the s15 t28 is bb.
huh, well i've been able to get off the line faster than most turbo cars i've raced...then they come back and smoke me, might have something to do w/ that, and at least 1 car i did like that had a t25, eclipse GS-T i had him til 3rd gear, his boost seemed useless fighting traction through first gear

right... v8 stangs have torque... that's what it is:icon16:

how does a mach 1 compare to an ls1 from a roll?

how does a mach 1 compare to an ls1 from a roll?

neck and neck for the most part. LS1 has the slight power adv. while the Mach 1 has slightly better gearing. But, The LS1 will prolly win the majority of the time.

Good kill. I haven't had any problems with 99+ Mustang GT's yet. The Mach 1's and the 03 Cobras are a different story though.

Get some tires, knock that 60' down and you've got a good race assuming the cobra is close to stock.

huh, well i've been able to get off the line faster than most turbo cars i've raced...then they come back and smoke me, might have something to do w/ that, and at least 1 car i did like that had a t25, eclipse GS-T i had him til 3rd gear, his boost seemed useless fighting traction through first gear

right... v8 stangs have torque... that's what it is:icon16:

That really is all up to the driver and their tire / drivetrain / suspension setup(also the characteristics of their motor, some turboed cars are geared towards the low end with smaller a.r's for more responsive setups but usually less peak power as a sacrifice on smaller motors). There are turbo 240's that cut 1.5's on slicks (obviously at a track). Being fwd and turbo would make quite a bit of difference due to weight transfer and track / street conditions. :wink:

Correct, I made the turn onto the main road at around second at about 3000 (rough estimates) and held full throttle until I caught him so I was spooling nicely out of the turn. I have absolutely NOTHING against domestics but it feels great to put a hurting on em when I can. There is just something about the attitude most seem to have when facing an import.

My car is a lot lighter and I'm guessing that I'm putting down a bit more whp as well, probably not by much though. Last close race I had was against a g35 from a roll at 11psi and I had gained a solid car and a half until I hit the 115mph limiter :(.

115mph....... ouch thats a low blow

good kill

something about killing mustangs is fun...seen too many asshole drivers

do love 'em though

and yah, the T25 spools at like...5rpm hahahah...mass lack of lag

Get some tires, knock that 60' down and you've got a good race assuming the cobra is close to stock.

The track I run at is usually around 2200+ DA (1300 ft. elevation). My car runs faster then a stock 03 Cobra there. They usually run a 13.3-13.5 sec. 1/4 mile with a good driver. Modded one's are dangerous.

Stock Mach 1's run about a 13.8-14 flat 1/4 mile there.

I want to race a mach 1........lot of gts but no mach.....what is the difference between the two...

I want to race a mach 1........lot of gts but no mach.....what is the difference between the two...

gt 4.6= sohc 16 valve, 260hp

mach1 4.6= dohc 32 valve 310hp

i dont know the torque numbers right off the top of my head.

edit- well i looked on msn autos and it said 302tq for the gt and 320tq for the mach1

Those mach 1's don't slouch but I'd take an ls1 or cobra over a mach anyday.
I'm interested in seeing how the new GT's run and if I stand half a chance pitted up against one.

I would have had a roll run with one just this last weekend if I wasn't just turning in to work at 7:59 to clock in at 8.

Every time I've seen an 05 GT run at the track they pulled high 13s, and one guy pulled like a 14.4 once. They're supposed to be similiar to the LS1's with a little less high end. I suppose the different gearing is to blame, something about a lack of magical number 6.