1994 tracker hit and miss startups
rkukndinger
12-10-2005, 11:58 AM
My '94' tracker starts when it feels like starting... started about a couple of weeks ago... husband put it in the garage and tapped on plate under the gas tank.. tracker started... when he shut it off, and left it sit for 10 minutes and then tried again.. wouldn't start... any suggestions?
viperh
12-11-2005, 10:09 AM
My '94' tracker starts when it feels like starting... started about a couple of weeks ago... husband put it in the garage and tapped on plate under the gas tank.. tracker started... when he shut it off, and left it sit for 10 minutes and then tried again.. wouldn't start... any suggestions?
It turns over and does not start? If it turns over and does not start I would go in this order.
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
It turns over and does not start? If it turns over and does not start I would go in this order.
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
rkukndinger
12-11-2005, 02:00 PM
It turns over and does not start? If it turns over and does not start I would go in this order.
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
New spark plugs were put in a couple of days ago.. we bought a fuel filter and putting it on today.. I will let you know if anything happens.... You are right, it turns over but no fire... I smell gas when it gets flooded, so I know the pump is working... Like I said... it starts when it feels like starting... sounds like it is only running on 3 valves instead of four when started... until it warms up.. then runs on all 4.... why would this happen?
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
New spark plugs were put in a couple of days ago.. we bought a fuel filter and putting it on today.. I will let you know if anything happens.... You are right, it turns over but no fire... I smell gas when it gets flooded, so I know the pump is working... Like I said... it starts when it feels like starting... sounds like it is only running on 3 valves instead of four when started... until it warms up.. then runs on all 4.... why would this happen?
rkukndinger
12-11-2005, 04:30 PM
It turns over and does not start? If it turns over and does not start I would go in this order.
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
Okay.. Fuel Filter has been changed.. new plugs put in... The tracker started right up.. but ran rough... Like its not hitting on all cylinders.. brought it back to the garage... turned it off... and then the tracker wouldn't start again.. just turns over... Husband hears 3 clicks when turning the key to on... 1st one under the dash.. 2nd one by the firewall by the engine.. and the 3rd click under the dash again... I guess its the ECM Module sending signals to the switches.. Could it be relay switches going bad.. or the ECM getting weak... At this point any advise would really help.,... I love this tracker... and I really can't afford a new vehicle.. but I don't want to pour more money into this truck then its really worth..... Help !!!!!
1. Replace the fuel filter.
2. Check for spark. Remove the spark plugs from the block and hold them againg the exhaust manifold while someone cranks it over. If that's good skip to four. If one of them doesn't spark. Replace the sparkplugs (if you have a carquest get NGK sparkplugs they are the cheapest and the best to get. If there is no car quest just remember the cheaper the spark plug the better.) Repeat the spark plug test. If they work skip to four. If not go to three.
3. Replace the spark plug wires.
4. Take the air filter out and spray carb cleaner into the intake while someone cranks it over if it tries to start you need either a new fuel injector or a new PCM.
Keep me updated on what happens.
Okay.. Fuel Filter has been changed.. new plugs put in... The tracker started right up.. but ran rough... Like its not hitting on all cylinders.. brought it back to the garage... turned it off... and then the tracker wouldn't start again.. just turns over... Husband hears 3 clicks when turning the key to on... 1st one under the dash.. 2nd one by the firewall by the engine.. and the 3rd click under the dash again... I guess its the ECM Module sending signals to the switches.. Could it be relay switches going bad.. or the ECM getting weak... At this point any advise would really help.,... I love this tracker... and I really can't afford a new vehicle.. but I don't want to pour more money into this truck then its really worth..... Help !!!!!
viperh
12-11-2005, 04:30 PM
Sounds like ECM.. Look at "1991 Geo Tracker" there is a guy there that will rebuild your ECM..
rkukndinger
12-12-2005, 11:13 PM
Sounds like ECM.. Look at "1991 Geo Tracker" there is a guy there that will rebuild your ECM..
Issue has been solved... My husband, first took out the fuel pump... checked that to be sure that the pump wasn't bad... pump was good... took a voltage tester to make sure there was voltage to the pump...wire was not testing out... followed the wires from the fuel pump.. and found 2 wires were corroded off the ground... repaired the wires... hasn't skipped a beat since.. tracker runs better then it did... with no missing involved at all... runs very smooth.. and starts everytime... Thank you so much for all your imput... and I will keep everything you said in mind.. and will still check the ING fuse and make sure that is alright as well..
Issue has been solved... My husband, first took out the fuel pump... checked that to be sure that the pump wasn't bad... pump was good... took a voltage tester to make sure there was voltage to the pump...wire was not testing out... followed the wires from the fuel pump.. and found 2 wires were corroded off the ground... repaired the wires... hasn't skipped a beat since.. tracker runs better then it did... with no missing involved at all... runs very smooth.. and starts everytime... Thank you so much for all your imput... and I will keep everything you said in mind.. and will still check the ING fuse and make sure that is alright as well..
gumby_ct
12-22-2005, 12:38 AM
I don't own a Tracker yet but I am looking at a 95 LSi the owner says won't start. I am wondering if it has this same problem but have no idea where to find the fuel pump or wires. Can anyone get me pointed in the right direction? Please.
Thanks,
Gumby_CT
Thanks,
Gumby_CT
HAWG
12-22-2005, 06:10 AM
the fuel pump is located in the fuel tank. The tank needs to be removed to gain access to it.
gumby_ct
12-22-2005, 08:17 AM
the fuel pump is located in the fuel tank. The tank needs to be removed to gain access to it.
and that explains why I couldn't locate it. How bout the wires- any idea the easiest place to access them?
Thanks
and that explains why I couldn't locate it. How bout the wires- any idea the easiest place to access them?
Thanks
HAWG
12-22-2005, 08:34 AM
not sure you can access them without the same procedure of removing or dropping the tank.
dgee
12-23-2005, 10:31 AM
drop the tank is the easiest way to get to the wires i had similar problem on my 95 tracker but instead my problem was the plate the fuel pump went to the wire on top of the plate were corroded under the cover for the wire ground wire that is.
dgee
12-23-2005, 10:33 AM
gumby ct check the ignition fuse make sure it is not blown. one other thing have some one turn on the ignition and you stand by the gas filler with the gas cap off and listen to hear if the fuel pump is working will only turn on for three seconds.. that usually the clicking under the dashboard that you hear is the fuel pump relay turning off after 3 seconds.
gumby_ct
12-23-2005, 10:53 AM
dgee- listening for the fuel pump and checking the IGN fuse that IS useful info...I forgot about both of those.Thanks
The plate you are referring to - is it accessible w/o dropping the tank?
The plate you are referring to - is it accessible w/o dropping the tank?
dgee
12-24-2005, 12:09 AM
no it is right on top off the tank in the middle where the wires go and the little hose come out but i would try listening for the fuel pump first.
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