I was hanging out with some friends at one of our meeting spots where we race. I had raced a Corolla XRS and put buslengths on it.. the only other car out there that could possibly beat me was an 03 Mustang GT auto... so we lined them up. I got a great launch and had maybe a fender on him. Shifted to 2nd and pulled a little.. shifted to 3rd and kept pulling.. to 4th and pulled more.. shut down at around 100mph with me 1 1/2 to 2 cars ahead.

Oh yeah.. my tune sucks. I really need to get on the dyno. I should be running high 13's.. but i'm stuck at mid 14's with my street tune :(

sux your not entirely tuned yet...get that taken care of!!

and good kill, w/ a new tune you should be smokin' those v8 stangs (stock) all day long!!!

i wish i could do taht...:-/

"street tune." :rofl: you make it sound like you have some turbo or supercharged racecar. i don't mean to burst your bubble..but there isn't much "tuning" needed when you just have exhaust mods. :shrug: Are you getting one'a them handheld tuners or something? I don't see that dropping 6+ tenths and adding 5+ mph..

"street tune." :rofl: you make it sound like you have some turbo or supercharged racecar. i don't mean to burst your bubble..but there isn't much "tuning" needed when you just have exhaust mods. :shrug: Are you getting one'a them handheld tuners or something? I don't see that dropping 6+ tenths and adding 5+ mph..

Sorry to burst your bubble.. if you would have read my modifications you would see that I have an Apex'i Power FC. It's a standalone engine management system. And yes, people with the same mods as me are running 13.5+ in the 1/4 trapping 100-103.

good kill. you got one quick ass celica. there isn't a single N/A celica in my area that runs quicker than high 14s.

good kill. you got one quick ass celica. there isn't a single N/A celica in my area that runs quicker than high 14s.

you must live in the same area I do cause 15s is what I see all day....
what are the specs on the stock gt-s anyways......

Vip shifts past the redline, apparently it makes power to like 8k or so.

Sorry to burst your bubble.. if you would have read my modifications you would see that I have an Apex'i Power FC. It's a standalone engine management system. And yes, people with the same mods as me are running 13.5+ in the 1/4 trapping 100-103.

:yawn:

I'll believe it when I see it. Back it up with some proof and I'll definitely eat my words. :thumbsup:

DRIVETRAIN
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GT 1.8-liter double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve 4-cylinder with Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
Bore x stroke: 79.0 mm x 91.5 mm
Compression ratio: 10.0:1
Induction system: Multi-point EFI
Ignition system: Electronic, with Toyota Direct Ignition system (TDI)
Horsepower: 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm
Torque: 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm
Transmission: 5-speed manual - standard
4-speed electronically controlled transmission (ECT) - available

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GT-S 1.8-liter double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve 4-cylinder with Variable Valve Timing and Lift with intelligence (VVTL-i)
Bore x stroke: 82.0 mm x 85.0 mm
Compression ratio: 11.5:1
Induction system: Multi-point EFI
Ignition system: Electronic, with Toyota Direct Ignition system (TDI)
Horsepower: 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm
Torque: 130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual - standard
4-speed Sportshift electronically controlled transmission (ECT) - available

did you run on slicks to hit those times.....

Hmm....I know they can be quick but i dunno...The new GT has 300 HP, with the Auto trans it should still be at least about a 14 second car, hell my 85 GT is about 14.2 now with minor mods and a 5 spd, it only weighs about 3200, weight might be a factor here? Anwyays good job, love the Transformers styling on those Celicas

Sorry to burst your bubble.. if you would have read my modifications you would see that I have an Apex'i Power FC. It's a standalone engine management system. And yes, people with the same mods as me are running 13.5+ in the 1/4 trapping 100-103.
Links to that?

good kill either way.

Hmm....I know they can be quick but i dunno...The new GT has 300 HP, with the Auto trans it should still be at least about a 14 second car, hell my 85 GT is about 14.2 now with minor mods and a 5 spd, it only weighs about 3200, weight might be a factor here? Anwyays good job, love the Transformers styling on those Celicas

03 Mustang GT auto

as in

http://www.stangbangers.com/2003_MustangGT_ForSale.jpg

As in mid 14s on a good day downhill with a tail wind. Not an '05 GT or your modded 85.

Next Please.

180hp/130tq
intake = 5hp/5tq (if that)
exhaust =10hp/10tq (if that) headers back
sfc = 15hp/15tq (tuned)
210hp/160tq

thats rsx-s territory and cobalt ss can you beat those cars....

but it does only weigh 2500 so maybe......

But remember guys... It's got Vtec with... Intelligence!!!

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i believe vip09, and good riddance to fwdturbo,<< lame

i've seeen things i consider more amazing than that, you all have to remember, the GT-S celica is better than the typeR, it may not have as much power to start w/ but the head outflows the typeR's head and w/ mods like that, he had better be in the 13's w/ some magic!!

Good kill on the stang. I read one magazine publication post a 15 sec. 1/4 mile for a convertible automatic mustang gt.

I don't believe that your car can run 13's though. Ain't no way your gonna shave off that much time with those minimal mods. I remain a skeptic until you prove me wrong. Going from high 14's to 13's is a HUGE step.

I would have to agree....

yah vip is honest... i've been in his car...as much as it pains me he is capable of beating a 03 gt... :(

good kill man

Let me start by clearing something up. For those of you that don't know, the 7th gen celica gt-s is a very tricky car to get good times on. Myself and 3 other people are the only people to actually get 14.7 stock and have slips to prove. One of us (00silvergts6pd on newcelica.org) has been able to get high 13's. Another member at newcelica.org (superman1240) is running mid 13's. DanGTS at newcelica.org is running high 13's as well.

The pic of 00silvergts6spd's 13.7 slip is not available anymore.. i think he lost his host.. but here's a link to the newcelica.org 1/4 mile database entry. I'll send him a PM and see if he can email be the slip and video. His mods at the time were: AEM Intake, Apex'i Power FC, unbolted exhaust, bfg drag radials, stripped interior.
http://www.newcelica.org/other/tracktimes/view.php?id=265

Here is a tach video from 00silvergts6spd (Mike Walker). http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/celishiftingvid.wmv


Here is a pic of superman1240's 13.5 slip. He has done some major weight reduction in comparison to others. The other people in the 13's have only removed interior seats and panels while superman1240 has gone to the extremes. He has a custom CAI, Trial Header (makes no power), unbolted exhaust, fidanza flywheel, drag radials.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6209/slip9dy.jpg


Here is a pic of DanGTS's times. He is the only person to get into the 13's that I know of without the Apex'i Power FC. His mods are: AEM Intake, unbolted exhaust, drag radials, stripped interior.
http://www.newcelica.org/other/tracktimes/view.php?id=110

http://www.newcelica.org/other/tracktimes/view.php?id=108 (http://www.newcelica.org/other/tracktimes/view.php?id=108)



thats rsx-s territory and cobalt ss can you beat those cars....

Everyone in the rsx/celica community knows that the type-s and gt-s are an even match.. this is common knowledge. Go to clubrsx.com sometime. It's a drivers race. The I/E/Hondata Type-s's are running similar times as I posted above for the gt-s's.

Yes, the gt-s puts out less power than them.. but it's much lighter. 00silvergts6spd dynoed 174whp when he ran his 13.7's.


If you guys would look at my times.. notice I dropped 2 tenths from my best stock time, but my trap speeds are nearly the same or less. Believe me when I say my tune is really really bad. And YES, it makes that big of a difference. It doesn't take as much power as you'd think to get a sub 2500lb car into the 13's.

I think a lot of you are underestimating the power of a good ECU tune on a modern car.

For example, you bolt a TBE on a WRX and the stock ECU will relearn to get it BACK to almost stock power which results in about 10whp gain. Whereas if you get a good tune you can get as much as 40-50whp (with a slight adjustment of the boost of course to cope with the free-er flow (I'm talking 0.5PSI)).

It's much like how your body rejects donor organs unless u got powerful drugs. An ECU tune is like some powerful drugs!! :-D

some powerful steroid drugs...

Even though I've never seen his slips, I feel I have to believe Vip09

He used to contribute to the discussions in the RSX forum with the couple of guys that are there, and we had a few good discussions back when I had my Type S and bragged an how I stomp Celica's...we had a few pretty long Celica GT-S Vs RSX Type S threads in the RSX forums...

I guess thats pretty shitty evidence to go by...but I never showed you guys a pic of my RSX till the day before I brought it back to the dealership and you guys trusted me...I guess im extending some trust to him

Even though I've never seen his slips, I feel I have to believe Vip09

Since you haven't seen any of my slips.. here are a few lol.

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip1.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip2.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip3.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip4.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip04.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip05.jpg

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/slip06.jpg

Oh, and a pic of my car at the strip to prove I was car 74.

http://members.aol.com/vipmetal09/montgomery01.jpg

Good work on the proof!

I was shocked by the times but you backed them good stuff

well after thinking it over I have seen hatches that weigh 2200 with b18c1 swaps running those times...they make less hp but the weight makes up..I think for every 100lbs its like one tenth of a second......you must have a factory freak..... but yeah it is kinda hard to believe cause over hear were I live they run 15s to high 14s all day.....I dont know..

Most celica owners can't drive their cars very well... I've had lots and lots of practice. The other people who i posted times for also go to the track on a regular basis. I have a huge stack of time slips.. probably over 100 runs.

I think a lot of you are underestimating the power of a good ECU tune on a modern car.

For example, you bolt a TBE on a WRX and the stock ECU will relearn to get it BACK to almost stock power which results in about 10whp gain. Whereas if you get a good tune you can get as much as 40-50whp (with a slight adjustment of the boost of course to cope with the free-er flow (I'm talking 0.5PSI)).

It's much like how your body rejects donor organs unless u got powerful drugs. An ECU tune is like some powerful drugs!! :-D

OK, we need to compare apples to apples here. You're comparing a car with forced induction to a car that is naturally aspirated. That's a huge difference. Most NA cars don't gain that much power from a piggyback/chip. Vip's probably seeing 10, at the most fwhp. You'll see alot more in a WRX, cause you can dial up the boost with a piggyback/chip.

Vip, you left out the fact that those cars have, what i'm guessing, are gutted interiors. I'm talking about the mods that you state. I mean I could gut my WS6 and run 11's, but it wouldn't have the same mods as it does now, cause weight reduction is a mod. Of course a Celica can run a 13 sec. pass if it sheds 400 lbs. of weight, that's common sense. I think everyone here just has trouble believing that with your minimal mods you'd run 13's with a full interior.

OK, we need to compare apples to apples here. You're comparing a car with forced induction to a car that is naturally aspirated. That's a huge difference. Most NA cars don't gain that much power from a piggyback/chip. Vip's probably seeing 10, at the most fwhp. You'll see alot more in a WRX, cause you can dial up the boost with a piggyback/chip.

Vip, you left out the fact that those cars have, what i'm guessing, are gutted interiors. I'm talking about the mods that you state. I mean I could gut my WS6 and run 11's, but it wouldn't have the same mods as it does now, cause weight reduction is a mod. Of course a Celica can run a 13 sec. pass if it sheds 400 lbs. of weight, that's common sense. I think everyone here just has trouble believing that with your minimal mods you'd run 13's with a full interior.

I never said I'd do that with full interior. My 14.5 was with stripped interior.. I lost about 100lbs. My stock times were with full interior.

i don't see 400lbs of interior in his car personally, and he even stated he used weight reduction....

just accept the fact he's got a quick na celica and move on... sheesh

Vip shifts past the redline, apparently it makes power to like 8k or so.

I shift at 8,600rpms actually.. heh

I have a huge stack of time slips.. probably over 100 runs.

ol mah gwash (says it like jessica simpson) dang mang.....over 100 runs and plus you shift past redline, dang you never blew your motor before?? my friend with the same car as yours blew his motor twice racing on the highway, you've never had problems with yours?

OK, we need to compare apples to apples here. You're comparing a car with forced induction to a car that is naturally aspirated. That's a huge difference. Most NA cars don't gain that much power from a piggyback/chip. Vip's probably seeing 10, at the most fwhp. You'll see alot more in a WRX, cause you can dial up the boost with a piggyback/chip.


I specifically said boost was only upped by 0.5PSI. I know it's not a fair comparison but I was just making the point that modern ECUs are designed to reject modifications for safety and emissions reasons. They relearn themselves to cope with mods and with a bit of tuning you can get way more power gains out of simple bolt ons.

I'm not saying the celica loves ECU tuning as much as the WRX but take it into account.

ol mah gwash (says it like jessica simpson) dang mang.....over 100 runs and plus you shift past redline, dang you never blew your motor before?? my friend with the same car as yours blew his motor twice racing on the highway, you've never had problems with yours?

Your friend miss-shifted. Very common in the GT-S. Tell him to be more careful. I did it once. Valve float doesn't start until 9,200rpms on the 2zz-ge. I can rev to 8600 with my apexi power fc.

Hmm....I know they can be quick but i dunno...The new GT has 300 HP, with the Auto trans it should still be at least about a 14 second car, hell my 85 GT is about 14.2 now with minor mods and a 5 spd, it only weighs about 3200, weight might be a factor here? Anwyays good job, love the Transformers styling on those Celicas

I think the 03 Gt stangs only had 260 hp. The 05 gt's have 300 and an extra valve if im not mistaken which gives the a 0-60 time of 5.0 seconds. The 03 Gt's 0-60 was like 6.1 I believe.

yeah I just didn't see that 03, thought to fast, lol, but nonethe less they arent slugs yah know?

shit i wouldnt doubt u beat that stang id rather have that celica over any mustang..well almost any mustang cept 60s shelbys lol

Sounds like ODOGG has been dusted by mustangs too many times. His views might change once he stops driving his moms car.

Sounds like ODOGG has been dusted by mustangs too many times. His views might change once he stops driving his moms car.

no kidding

this is really quite annoying, now hes posting in old threads to smear mustangs...


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